Karen Read Trial Day 23 Summary

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[@jjgirl3715]

This is so scary. Imagine being accused of this and being unable to afford such amazing lawyers!

[@goosejail]

Or have an entire FBI investigation to provide evidence you otherwise could never have gotten!

[@phoebehill953]

I’ve had to deal with several legal issues during my life, and have found the amount I pay an attorney does not always correspond with the competency of legal representation I receive.

[@briiimayne]

Exactly. It happens more often than people think. I’m from Memphis. My dad worked in the jail system. Half the people in there are in there because a public defender coerced them into a plea deal and told them they have no chance. Statistically all of them can’t be guilty, a lot of them just don’t know the legal system.

[@stevenprice6957]

Imagine getting away with murder. That’s possible for Read.

[@albatros386]

@@stevenprice6957where is the proof she killed him? Just the taillight pieces alone won’t explain it, there already has been discrepancy and doubt in testimony about it and that it was not damaged as badly as the prosecution tries to portray. And her supposed “admission” is just nonsense, and had discrepancies as well between Kerry and Jen testimonies. On the other hand there is a stellar evidence the investigation was biased from the get go. How is she going to be convicted I cannot imagine.

[@Kokomo365]

Massachusetts minimum wage $15/hr. Juror payment $50/day = $6.25/hr. Civic duty shouldn't be a punishment.

[@lollylolly8186]

Proctor $148,000 /yr

[@Rayna-gn3ni]

I'm curious to know what this trial is costing g the taxpayers there. Guarantee it's over 100k. Karens lawyers will cost her almost seven figures and worth every penny. Although, I firmly believe justice shouldn't be paid for. Yet, here we are.

[@TrinityHarrison]

​@@Rayna-gn3niI'm sure she'll recover that and more in the civil suit.

[@Rayna-gn3ni]

@@TrinityHarrison Also, it cost quite a bit of money to file a civil suit like that. Another 150k.

[@bucketree]

I think giving a stipend on top of the minimum for cost of living should be applied in a means justified if you are the only earner in a family then you should be able to get a tax discount at least

[@wilson2455]

16 hours after the incident he's texting his HS buddies, " KR is guilty, It's signed, sealed & delivered guys.. ". This cop is a real piece of work !

[@someguywithcancer1595]

I heard a report that when Proctor was on re-direct and said “the investigation was done with integrity” that some jurors started laughing.

[@thecanrights9184]

As a juror I am hearing a lot about bad policing and nothing about how the victim was killed by Ms. Read.

[@PsychNurseExplains]

Blame it on AJ

[@PsychNurseExplains]

Lies lies lies b lies

[@indigoweather]

us MA residents are PISSED!! if it is happening to such a high profile case what will happen when one of us regular citizens are in the wrong place at the wrong time?????

[@ApoIIo95]

You should be angry. Your state's law enforcement are very corrupt.

[@DorothyKeoseian]

💯

[@janaeaglio868]

This is an unbelievable case of abuse. McCabe’s, Albert’s & Proctor should be prosecuted after this acquittal. They should have to pay back the money to the taxpayers for this circus. O’Keffe family to have the truth! 😡

[@Rayna-gn3ni]

I am so curious how much the CW has spent on this trial, expert witnesses, all while getting paid their salary. I need receipts!

[@SueLW65]

They should also pay for KR’s legal fees.

[@thecanrights9184]

Sadly, his family may still blame her, even if she is acquitted. It’s a tragedy that the investigation was so badly handled. The seems to be some real problems with the police in those departments IMO. Corruption, unprofessional conduct and alcoholism to name 3.

[@LB13394]

For someone who also has stomach issues, I never can only have one bathroom to share with others. My own room always. Feel so bad her problems had to be shared with America due to Proctor and his bias investigation.

[@Type1MomRN]

It’s crazy how they are trying to charge KR for DUI but ALL of these officers have been driving after drinking!🙄

[@purpledragon3545]

Driving their cruisers, of all things.

[@TheSuzberry]

IMO driving after drinking is always a poor choice. Driving while drunk should put you in the lockup for a while. But maybe losing your service weapon should get you booted from the force and locked up.

[@mariaskinnider115]

At least 2 of these people have been involved in DUI Chris Albert killed a person and got off ( with representation from the Judges brother). Also the chief downed a man who lost his leg while he was under the influence. This is clearly a common occurrence for the cops and their families to drink and drive because they’re all thick as thieves and never charge their own.

[@phoebehill953]

I knew someone who quit being a police officer after he was stopped while driving heavily intoxicated, and his fellow officer sent him on his way. Police need better rehab programs, like doctors, nurses and pilots have.

[@JenRob1109]

That’s east coast police culture for you, rules for you not for me

[@justsomeone5658]

23 days into the states case and I have more doubts then anything else. this feels more like a defense case in chief

[@ElizabethButler.39]

Which is so wrong!!! I can’t believe this is how an officer who passed away was investigated. Imagine how they treat everyday people.

[@TheSuzberry]

The goal was to protect the local cops and their families. The victim was a cop outside that circle.

[@zgSH4DOW]

Said =/= Treated If callous talk offends you, you don't belong in rescue/medicine/military, anything that involves service

[@ElizabethButler.39]

Callous talk doesn’t offend me but, you should as an investigator be able to be unbiased. Which would mean check all avenues.

[@jjgirl3715]

@@zgSH4DOW treated = searching through your cell phone for nudes, deciding the case is closed after 16 hours. Deleting evidence to make the suspect appear guilty etc etc. Perhaps you think rescue/medical etc degrade their patients and not follow basic protocols of behavior. Do you think they talk about the victims identity to their friends on chats ? This is FAR more than dark humour.

[@JohnR-it1dj]

No idea how Proctor said the investigation was done with the "utmost integrity"...with a straight face .

[@thekidfromcanada]

This is HIS best, okay? He's trying really hard. 😂

[@JohnR-it1dj]

@@thekidfromcanada Yeah.....that's the ticket!🤣

[@Squeaky_Bean]

@@thekidfromcanada 😂😂 Bless his heart!

[@geri_with_a_g]

​@@thekidfromcanada .... and pathological liars believe their own narrative, so he can't be blamed 😂 poor sausage

[@cavo19]

Proctor kept mentioning the shoe as part of the “overwhelming evidence” against Karen. How does a shoe prove that someone was hit by a car?? I have so many questions, but he repeatedly mentioned the shoe and it annoyed me every time!

[@sarcasticcatlady2036]

Exactly! And how does someone get hit by a vehicle with enough force to knock off a shoe but not have any bruising on their torso? My brain can’t comprehend this.

[@lins_z2]

Maybe he was aiming for a “if the shoe fits you must acquit” situation, but instead, “if the shoe fits you must find guilty” or something, because it just makes no sense.

[@malloryharding882]

Plus the shoe was found on top of the snow and hours after John was found. That sounds like it was left inside and tossed outside well after.

[@TheSuzberry]

If the victim had been hit by a car there should be a forensic recreation of the incident to show what happened.

[@jennifersandahl4603]

He was retroactively justifying his vitriol toward her. Saying it was “overwhelming evidence” makes it ok in his mind to pursue her so heatedly and makes him look like a hero. It’s a classic defensive, self-centered, coward reaction. All of these things, I found Proctor to show about himself.

[@madiantin]

All this is really shocking to me. Did these officers really think they would get away with it? Why are they not being charged with DUI? They admitted to it in text messages. Why are they not being charged with perjury? This poor woman, having her life utterly ripped apart. I hope she sues the whole lot of them.

[@maureencioppa5712]

These officers thought they would get away with it because this isn’t their first time. They likely got away with it over and over and over again and the only reason they aren’t getting away with it this time is because Karen Read is the first one to be able to hire powerful defense attorneys

[@TaliaSC]

EDB, I think your title has a typo… you said ‘day 23’ but it’s actually year 139 of trial.

[@CoffeeLoverRx]

Agreed😂😂😂

[@ErinH-430]

We now know why the ME hasn’t been called - cause of death isn’t homicide.

[@Looshfarmer]

The ME he called a “whack job”? for not following, where they tried to lead her to conclude? I agree it’s inconsistent with the conclusion they had from the start.

[@kitkatt85510]

It's gonna be so interesting to hear from the ME now, AFTER Michael Proctor took the stand and called her a whack job. She's gonna get wind of that and be angry (I would) she'll probably make a good defense witness now. "Yeah the cops tried to pressure me to change my ruling" "I thought his injuries were consistent with a fight but they told me before my ruling that he was in a car accident and that influenced my description of injuries" etc etc I can't wait!!

[@MLA56]

OH, It's a homicide. He died due to the actions of another. That's the definition of homicide. Question is, from what injuries? How was he struck? At what angle? And on and on... things that flat-out don't fit with Proctor's BS story.

[@Cindeelouhoo]

@@MLA56then on cross, “could these injuries have been from a fight?” Yes!” This is where reasonable doubt is planted at every turn in the messy trial because there is no evidence she hit him! I mean, as a juror if witnesses only report a cracked tail light, where did these huge pieces come from?

[@jessmarie8040]

@@Cindeelouhooexactly. Hell, half the stuff they claim they have could be other possibilities too

[@CorgiDaddy2]

I was so disgusted.

[@queenb1957]

Yanetti said he was at the school to meet Lucky, the plow driver to drive the route he took on the 29th. They did that, came back and got his car. Never to see proctors wife/subpoena or anything. It was Lucky’ suggestion to meet there. ( per interview w/ yanetti on sidewalk after trial)

[@jjgirl3715]

And no one EVER approached him and asked him to leave. Proctor can't seem to stop the lies!

[@geri_with_a_g]

​@jjgirl3715 I agree, he seems to be a pathological liar IMO and I've met a few.

[@valentinat3250]

It’s just a train wreck. I can’t believe the case had gotten this far.

[@akaclownkiller]

Has anything been said as to why the people in the house he was dropped off at did when they realized that he never made it in the house, why didn't any one of them go a look outside? Wasn't there now a party happening at the time?

[@lollylolly8186]

Apparently according to Jackson was Lucky ( Brian) the snowplough driver asked Yanetti to meet him at the school. Yanetti didn’t know who worked at the school, no one came and talked to him and he never asked if Courtney Proctor worked there. So Proctor lied or his sister lied to him. That’s why it was stricken.

[@elizabethchetwood1916]

Proctor was AGAIN trying to impugn the Defense. Didn’t work. By that time, the jury isn’t believing a thing he says!

[@ninaanetteassarsson4328]

Yanetti told the press that outside the court . Procter is just a big SH !

[@thecanrights9184]

Oh, so they told the driver to tell Yanetti to meet there so they could set him up. That’s why Proctor just had to get that out.

[@mariaskinnider115]

Maybe it proves how frightened the Proctors and McAlberts really are. Their corrupt world is starting to crumble and they’re terrified. Hopefully 🙏

[@KaileyB616]

@@thecanrights9184 honestly, I can't help but wonder if the plow driver did that intentionally to set them up

[@wizard4121]

I really appreciate these summaries as I can’t watch your coverage of the trial during the day

[@Looshfarmer]

A police investigation is meant to gather evidence, not overshadow the whole process.

[@Amarianee]

I just love that Proctor and co. want to keep referencing, "the statements made to the medical team," The uh....the statements that the medical team said they never heard??

[@cspechtify]

You’re so eloquent and break things down in a way that’s easy to understand, thank you!

[@pamelae909]

I really hope defense puts together a timeline of what Proctor said in the texts vs what physical evidence was recovered because he’s made his determination already.

[@laurasalmon706]

I would love to see this because in parts of his testimony I was shouting but you didn't have that yet, like the shoe from Fairview wasn't that found after the first 24 hours. This case is just giving confusion and disappointment at this point.

[@pamelae909]

@@laurasalmon706Yes! They were going back and collecting things days and weeks later yet on the 29th it already seems to be a forgone conclusion in his texts.

[@thekidfromcanada]

This is what i would like to call the Proctor gamble: decide who's guilty and race to find "evidence" of such.

[@happychaps507]

…I am just biding my time till the more cerebral portion of the trial begins… the ME, accident reconstruction/logistics of the probabilities of vehicle impact vs physical altercation regarding his wounds, and all the tech presentations

[@lollylolly8186]

I think the CW is trying to make sure we are mentally exhausted so we can’t figure out what the experts say. 🤷‍♀️

[@Looshfarmer]

@@lollylolly8186thats exactly what it seems like. I’m a trained hyno-I also trained in conversational Hypno-and that seems like a deliberate technique to wear down the critical part of your mind; so the defences are down on what info they’re giving. There’s something we also call Leading questions too, where if you sorta prove 3 or 4 facts true in someone’s mind, they’re more open to accepting subsequent suggestions. Building trust I guess, so you let other later things slide from analysis.

[@happychaps507]

@@lollylolly8186 …You’re right… I AM exhausted. These people are their own “Tight circle” and they certainly go to all extremes to protect their cult members… errrrrr I mean “tight circle” members.

[@geri_with_a_g]

Chaff and re-direct To fuddle your mind 😵‍💫🫨🤯

[@JB-hp4dx]

This case brings doubt about police integrity. The Massachusetts state and local police in collusion against a defendant is almost unbelievable until you clearly witness it in this court. 😳

[@Chaundradickinson]

GM Law nerd crew - I was watching and got the notification from the app. LOVE IT! Take care of yourselves - long days

[@CoffeeLoverRx]

Same! Downloaded the app this week and so happy I did. Very convenient!

[@TheSuzberry]

Inconsistent dates/times/places gives birth to reasonable doubt.

[@lisabeloved]

Listening to Proctor's cross, I almost entirely forgot that he's a witness for the prosecution against Karen and not a prosecution witness against the Canton Coruption Squad 😅

[@skoda18]

Edb, you forgot to mention it is day 565 of trial lol

[@gldominick8854]

Million

[@geri_with_a_g]

I swear I was only 30 when this trial started. I'm 54 now

[@MLA56]

Well friends, here before we begin Day 24, it appears that the Prosecution has thus far made a very compelling case for the Defense...

[@amymacRN]

I was on replay crew last night after a long day of work and kindergarten softball games. My favorite part was when your son came in. Because I wasn’t looking and could only hear. So my brain went to: someone in the gallery is speaking up. What is happening! It was a needed laugh

[@mousehouse99]

Having chronic, acute gastrointestinal issues for 4 yrs., I understand completely the need for isolation and privacy. Poor lady. I at least had the option to retire and live my miserable life away from everyone.

[@CoffeeLoverRx]

I feel overwhelmed with information, yet none of it leads to a conviction beyond a reasonable doubt. If MSP and Canton police are this sloppy with a case involving a fellow officer, I can’t imagine how they conduct themselves in cases involving anyone else.

[@dparnass]

This case has gone in directions, and I would not have predicted.

[@DR-jv3hk]

Thanks Emily for the quick bits! ❤

[@Type1MomRN]

This trial is exhausting 😮 I would be pissed if I was on this jury bc of the time that has been WASTED😠

[@amandahuffstetler9695]

Thankful for quick bit summaries. I just can’t with this trial anymore.

[@gloriahufnagel5556]

The fact Proctor didn’t realize or care that these texts would be released is ASTOUNDING.. never mind he shouldn’t even have sent them! .. he should be fired or demoted, in the minimum

[@nedludd3641]

This should be a national disgrace. It seems there is a culture where a lead investigator in a murder trial can message friends, relatives, colleagues with intimate details of a live investigation in the most offensive terms imaginable - and no one pulls him up about it. Police cruisers are used for (official or unofficial?) trips to solve unsolved cases resulting in one officer getting so inebriated he's lost his badge & gun. From the testimony, there seems to be a fair amount of drinking and driving, yet the only person brought to book is the non-cop outsider. Appalling. Scotland Yard & West Midlands Police in the UK has faced similar issues in the past resulting in entire branches being re-assigned to other duties. People get cozy and then the Devil makes work for idle hands

[@goosejail]

Proctor had already decided Karen did it. He just went from "hit in the face with a glass" to "hit with her SUV" a few hours later because John was missing a shoe. So crazy that 2 not-medical-professionals can determine cause of death, with zero doubt, just by looking at someone in the hospital.

[@karinaz8756]

Three FBI experts can’t re-create the car accident and explain all of John’s injuries.

[@angelsoldier4444]

Thank you so much for covering this case, Emily. I absolutely adore you. I am a resident of Massachusetts, and let me tell you- I have questions, and feel “Trooper” Proctor f’d many people. I will never look at a Mass State Trooper the same way.

[@Presumedhostile]

Thank god for the app!! I don't wanna hear anything unless its science not fuckery!

[@sophiabartlett646]

When I saw Proctor drive her automobile off. He corrupted any evidence. I haven't ever see an impounded vehicle driven off. Most call someone who comes and picks it up without cranking it much less driving it to the Sallyport. Wth?🤷‍♀️

[@sues6573]

I’m so behind on trial and these quick bits are so helpful. Thank you!!!

[@solovjud]

Thank you for doing the summary - can’t do all day!(or night, in my case!)

[@giniferdeming]

My internet connection was trash yesterday--I was angry, I couldnt listen to the whole thing.

[@Bostongirlsleuth]

I just don’t get why we have not heard from the experts first. What could be the reason to put all these other people before the experts?

[@ElizabethButler.39]

Because the ME didn’t go with the cops narrative

[@goosejail]

The only thing I can think of that makes any sense is that Lally thinks that is their best evidence so he's saving it for last so it's strongest in the jurors minds.

[@chronicallyme2657]

Thank you so much for your awesome summaries!

[@litrealred6840]

Hi! Been watching on and off ! Luv these quick bits! Thanks!

[@bethbounds2873]

Allen Jackson FOR PRESIDENT‼️

[@Oldbutnotout]

🤔 this case is just 🤯 scary. Note to new trial attorneys- If your case is on Day 23 and the world has no idea 🤷‍♀️ how you even came to arrest the defendant on the evidence presented so far - than your case is 🚽! Get it together!

[@melissaa2369]

I know way too much about everyone in this little friend group. You know what I dont know, tho? How KR is even on trial for this!

[@jlkitz1775]

Jackson DID NOT COME TO PLAY 👏🏾 with Trooper Proctor! Oof, he was hitting those consonants HARD LOL 😆 🤯

[@GothBoyUK]

I can barely remember anything of note from yesterday, outside of the text messages (which we knew from Monday).

[@Villianesscupcake-2002]

Thanks for the coverage i can't with this trial i appreciate the breakdowns ❤

[@stephaniemowrey5257]

Thanks for the update Emily 💜

[@jenw7344]

This is absolutely insane

[@LibraInSeattle]

He really said Ring wouldn't have a way for LE to determine if a video was deleted? That seems odd to me. Hmmm. I hope we may hear more about that.

[@JustMe-sj2oe]

Respectively, I believe that Jackson said what needed to be said at the end of his cross examination - as I am a survivor of DM. But yes, I do respect the Judge's response to Jackson's comment.

[@debbieblair3329]

Thanks Emily!

[@claudiapatterson6764]

Did you say “the shit is out of the horse” 😂😂😂

[@janeevans1859]

Love the summary

[@claudiamontano519]

AMEN !! We are moving onward !!!!!

[@pillettadoinswartsh4974]

Up until yesterday, I've been saying hung jury. Now, I'm positive she'll be acquitted. When the prosecution is spending 95% of its time fighting its own fires over corrupt investigators and perjuring witnesses, and waits until week 8 to call it's lead investigator, and hasn't called the M.E., it's over. And in a year or two, Karen will be a $$$millionaire$$$ as well.

[@jessmarie8040]

Regardless if one thinks she’s guilty or not, there just isn’t enough evidence to suggest a guilty verdict.

[@vampgaia]

How does Proctor still have a job?!?! How did he get promoted up the ladder?!?

[@VLovesDMB]

Excellent coverage- thank you EDB, while we live here!

[@misslove432]

The Defence has lured the prosecution into the defence. The prosecution spends majority of their time defending the defence narrative rather than present their case.

[@LibraInSeattle]

I agree.

[@phoebehill953]

What I’m trying to process is: does Proctor kiss his darling sister with that mouth?

[@oldmanfunky4909]

Lally has been saying "What if any" so much now EDB is doing it too! lol

[@amym9979]

Good morning Emily & law nerds

[@maikolosav]

So did we find out how trooper Proctor had access to that video the day before? Or they didn't go back to that line of questions?

[@chronicallyme2657]

I really wonder what the judge is thinking…what is running through her mind with each additional nefarious fact exposed

[@lisa-i7q5t]

I have so many questions.

[@robbyrobby]

Question ❓ Can A Judge Fine An Attorney As Part Of Contempt❓

[@hollystiener16]

Yes

[@debbieblair3329]

What a day it was in court yesterday

[@mariaskinnider115]

I thought Proctor wrote the txts about Yannetti long before he took the stand. ??

[@elainejohnson6955]

It is very easy for a shoe to pop off. A while ago, one of my shoes popped off when I slipped and fell because the wood floor had just been cleaned and was slippery.

[@firstlight7419]

Where is all the ring camera footage from all the neighbors? They could verify the time line on the cars arriving, leaving, even turning on to the street, plow rounds, etc?!

[@barbaral743]

One neighbor is also a cop. His ring "wasn't working" that day.

[@DoraMendoza-q4n]

Crooked investigators cobering up for those in that home

[@Carol-nz1ld]

My mind is at the stage of "where am I? Who am I?" with this trial. I'm tired 😫

[@susangodejohn315]

Proctor said shoe off proved to him it was a hit by car… wouldn’t Brian Albert also know this and could possibly stage the scene? Just a thought.

[@valearl4693]

EB astonishes me. How she keeps all the lawyer gobbledygook straight. It's like a superpower. ❤

[@gldominick8854]

Smh. I have more doubts every time the CW presents anything.

[@ardysfleetwood6639]

Good morning, Emily D. Baker

[@djahant]

My question is, why was he murdered? I think Karen is not guilty. So who? Why all the cover up? This is so bizarre to me.

[@christinex2950]

I can’t wait for the movies to come out. 😂

[@geri_with_a_g]

I just wanted to say that if Karen Read is found guilty after this whole debacle, I'm going to cry my eyes out from the sheer injustice and unfairness of it all.

[@amystachurski6477]

I just keep thinking how many cases these law enforcement peeps have fucked up!?! ....I love you Emily D Baker❤

[@Squeaky_Bean]

Regarding Yanetti calling out Proctor for being unprofessional all I can say is, "If the shoe fits, Trooper." Also, I cackled heartily when Proctor spoke of the "Overwhelming" evidence that he had against KR. What a clown show. Imo.

[@applecoreeater]

I really want to know why the prosecution even decided to bring this case

[@emgmin]

This was the most exhausting day

[@Candy-O1776]

Whack job was the ME.

[@ElizabethButler.39]

That’s how I took it because she wouldn’t say he was “hit by a car”

[@SueLW65]

It sounds like he has no respect for intelligent, successful women…or maybe just women, in general.

[@jackeeB]

Proctor gives me less than smart. But, I don't know if it's purposeful to escape accountability or if he's really this dense🤔

[@goosejail]

Must be a cop thing in that area. I recall Brian Albert playing dumb a whole lot, too.

[@plscarney1646]

Qqq. Will the incorrect warrant dates/time affect the trial

[@dsn385]

The entire trial is one big mess. Proctor is a total disgrace.

[@KaileyB616]

according to Yanetti, he needed to meet with the plow driver to talk about his testimony, and the PLOW DRIVER suggested meeting at that particular school parking lot. That's all that happened. Literally nothing. but then Troopah Proctah wants to get up on the stand and claim that Yanetti intentionally showed up somewhere to intimidate somebody, yada yada yada, more of the same bullshit they've been saying. It just shows how gross and dishonest they are.