Karen Read Trial Recaps

Karen Read Trial Recaps - Day 24

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4 ай бұрын

So today was a lot of experts. Let's break that down and make it a little more interesting.

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@yvonnesoethof3109 4 ай бұрын

When a mommy piece of plastic and a daddy piece of plastic love eachother very very very much they get a baby piece of plastic. WUHAHAHAHA Good one Ian. LOL

@seangettler1917 4 ай бұрын

One thing I have learned in this trial is that no one can spend more time more throughly proving things that aren't in controversy than Lally can. I now 100% believe that John and Karen went to the bar and then to 34 Fairview and it was snowing. So glad we FINALLY cleared that up

@DyslecticAttack 4 ай бұрын

To be entirely fair, it's worth proving this one in my opinion. Because ever since Jen and Kerrie testified, there was a possibility that Jen could be the sole source of Karen going to Fairview, and I don't trust Jen. I had no other theory, but there was an inkling of dispute there. So now the prosecution at least has something more than just Jen's words and disputed shards of taillight that Karen went to fairview.

@melissahanawalt6383 4 ай бұрын

Lol! It was snowing!! Oh wow?

@sonastysorude 4 ай бұрын

The mitochondrial DNA from the hair is also consistent with John's niece and nephew. John and his sister have the same mDNA from their mother. John's sister passed that mDNA to both of her children, who now live with John. So, it doesn't tell us much at all.

@Shangori 4 ай бұрын

Either way it doesn't say much. They were in a relationship. Chances are his dna was on the car to begin with. If that hair could withstand 60 miles of blizzard, who says it wasn't there before he allegedly was hit as well?

@catherinebeacham1117 4 ай бұрын

@@Shangori It does say something because you need a root end to test for DNA and that requires plucking!

@brendaleelydon-carpenter1554 4 ай бұрын

@@catherinebeacham1117 You don't need the root to test for mitochondrial DNA (the kind passed down the maternal line).

@richardstuplich8278 4 ай бұрын

What we learn is if someone involved is a police office, retired officer or family of an officer - investigators will assume they are innocent and beyond investigation.

@MathewMilutin 4 ай бұрын

The sad reality is that American LE have allowed themselves to become just a - gang - like any other. I am so, so tired of cops saying " no one hates a bad cop more than a good cop" without demonstrating what these same supposed "good cops" are doing to back their statements up...funny that part of the conversation never happens...

@KathleenTackett-r8w 4 ай бұрын

I can’t wait to hear from the jurors when this case is over. I hope some of them will speak out then.

@leng7811 4 ай бұрын

I really wonder if any of them are thinking "Can we go home now? I think we know what we need to." Because, unless the defendant is a warewolf with a magical car, there's nothing prosecution can say to convince me beyond a reasonable doubt. And defense hasn't even started their case yet!

@Chelle_Lynn319 4 ай бұрын

@@leng7811 I completely agree with you on that one.

@DyslecticAttack 4 ай бұрын

@@leng7811 honestly, even if the prosecution proves that the defendant was a werewolf with a magically jumping car, I'd still need at least 1 expert on the stands on the moon at the time, and maybe another on werewolf psychology to get there. And even then I don't know if I have proof of the "intent" that's needed for one of the counts.

@horrormoviereactions 4 ай бұрын

@@DyslecticAttack They could have 4k video of KR turning into a werewolf and mauling John O'Keefe and I wouldn't vote guilty. There's literally no evidence that would make me vote KR guilty, because the prosecution has poisoned every bit of evidence that's on the record. I'm almost doubting that it really was snowing that night, since Lally said it. Lally is a shameless liar, incompetent and lacking human decency. If I were a juror on any case that he's involved in, I would immediately confess my bias- that there's no way at all that I would ever vote in support of his case.

@bonesonstones1 4 ай бұрын

Would you if you were a juror? I would probably feel quite unsafe, emotions have been running high about this trial on both sides. I surely wouldn't want the MA state police against me 🙈

@valkyrie_arts 3 ай бұрын

Jackson: "You're educated, correct?" Tully: "Allegedly." The level of deadpan from him saying that and Jackson's chuckle has me DYING 🤣

@ippy_fluffy 4 ай бұрын

Runkle it might be a boring day, but dont underestimate how much we love Runkle snark! Replay crew checking in! -x-

@Artemis2317 4 ай бұрын

It’s so boring I can’t even fall asleep to it. Ian is the saving Grace.

@forcryinoutloud 4 ай бұрын

The brain worm image is hilarious 😆 all you need is a little speech/thought bubble from the worm saying "I can't recall" or some iteration. 😂

@persowe 4 ай бұрын

"My memory is exhausted" (:

@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783 4 ай бұрын

What if any...

@sunnyadams5842 4 ай бұрын

@@persoweThat has to be among my top 3 from this trial !!

@kaiserrumms 4 ай бұрын

"Absolutely not!!!11"

@Sharon_L_W 4 ай бұрын

I thought her name was Test Chart. Had to google to check lol. My dad had a mate named Daly Mail. Irish bloke. No way that wasn't intentional on his parents part.

@Sharon_L_W 4 ай бұрын

47:39 I feel the same way... when someone starts talking about the thing they love, and their entire face and mannerisms light up and sparkle with joy, and that you're genuinely keen to hear ALLLL about it on top (and the more detail, the better). Good feels. I wonder if it's some sort of ADHD thing where our brains are feeding off the dopamine vibes rushing through that other person. Vicariously acquiring dopamine. Mmmmm

@mrsharpie7899 4 ай бұрын

I think that might just be a human thing. To my understanding, whether a person is ND or NT, people usually tend to enjoy seeing other people happy

@snegglepuss6669 4 ай бұрын

On corruption of eye witnesses, a recurring bit in Dirty Harry films was him chasing a guy, losing him, then asking a rando if they'd seen [wrong description] run past. They would then say no, but [right description] did. The fact that they pushed back made them more reliable, at least that was the thinking

@LabradorsofNorway 4 ай бұрын

Timestamps coming up as I watch 😉 and IMO: todays experts probably good for prosecution, but there's also me wincing at how they highlight how bad continuity is at Canton PD 00:00:00 Intro 00:05:00 DNA continuity and testing 00:38:20 New merchandise - the Brainworm! 00:44:20 Testimony by Tess Chart 00:56:00 What does consistent mean in court (also Runkleism 🤣) 01:03:00 Testimony by Andrej Porto 01:23:40 Direct examination of Lt. Tully continues - cell phone data 01:48:50 Cross examination of Lt. Tully 02:04:00 The Sally port video 02:07:00 Chain of custody 02:32:00 Cell phone towers 03:01:30 Eye-witness identification - why it is often crappy 03:08:50 Re-direct of Lt. Tully 03:13:40 A Runkle-story: the naming of the oldest Runkle (of his generation) 03:22:20 Re-cross of Lt. Tully 03:27:00 Summary of the day, and superchats

@IFBBProYeo 4 ай бұрын

👏

@Js-ke4kx 4 ай бұрын

Is she know being accused of stealing the flux capacitor?

@mallorymantiply2772 4 ай бұрын

never seen a judge allow this much court time and resources so out of proportion to what should be.

@madeline3868 4 ай бұрын

So many half days and partial weeks. Doesn’t this the jury members can’t work at their place of employment or socialize due to the risk of hearing about the case?

@Artemis2317 4 ай бұрын

Ian, you’re my favorite nerd.

@Sara_H114 4 ай бұрын

I really enjoy this chats banter. This is the funniest chat I've seen.

@GenuineUntelligence 4 ай бұрын

I have my own "most likely" explanation as to what happened to John from the evidence so far. It's different to either prosecution or defense theory of the case, and I'm angry because the investigation was so botched we will never ever know for sure. Anyway, my theory for anyone interested goes as follows. Karen dropped John off at 34 Fairview, he entered the home, some sort of heated exchange happened between John and someone at the house and the dog grabbed his arm causing him to fall (could have been a verbal argument cause GSDs can become very protective even just because of raised voices) and he hits his head pretty badly. John then gets up and leaves the house but collapses in the garden. The dodgy butt dials etc are the Brians wondering what will happen with the dog if John decides to take action about it. The following morning Karen is stressed because she knows there is no reason John wouldnt be home unless he's been hurt, she thought his blood was her own period, thats how much sense she was making so even if she did say she hit him I don't think it means anything. The Alberts then find out John died on the lawn and Brian knows, if they admit he entered the home that places them as the last to see him alive, if they say he never entered the home that places Karen as the last to see him alive. As for things like the shoe being off, maybe that happened in the house and he carried it out rather than putting it back on. With that type of head injury people can act weird. He could have even been so disoriented that he keft with both shoes on, couldnt work out how to use his phone, sat down in the snow and took his hat and shoe off when hypothermia started setting in but passed out from the head injury before he removed any other clothing (feeling too hot is a known symptom of hypothermia and it's well documented for people to undress). The tail light most likely was Proctor making sure the homeowner wouldnt catch any "shit".

@GenuineUntelligence 4 ай бұрын

Perhaps Karen and John did argue in the car about the Higgins sexting and he threw the glass at the car after getting out, breaking both her tail light and the glass, that would also explain how an argument happened when he entered the house.

@valb3094 4 ай бұрын

I have a similar theory regarding the injury and the fact that the Alberts panicked. Then Karen not remembering the previous night gave them a way out without much effort. I think they agreed to keep their testimonies on « John never entered the house » without getting in any details. It may have been an accident and if John would have had proper medical care he could have survived. Regardless of what happened, it’s a very sad story. The bright side would be uncovering how unprofessional the police officers can be.

@astrialindah2773 4 ай бұрын

How do you account for the black vehicle that the snow plow guys are out there sometime around 2 or 3:00 in the morning.... I forget the name of the make of the vehicle but it was not Karen's.....? It was the vehicle that the alberts had apparently?😅

@GenuineUntelligence 4 ай бұрын

@@astrialindah2773 So far we haven't had that evidence, but assuming the testimony is credible when we get it, maybe it will change my mind.

@GenuineUntelligence 4 ай бұрын

@@astrialindah2773 let's get extra real here, we haven't even heard the cause of death yet so any theories at this point could change wildly!

@bucketree 4 ай бұрын

The solid pun comment is proof of your nerd official licence 😂😂😂😂❤❤❤

@lawnerddownunder3461 4 ай бұрын

Im drinking wine from a pint glass, also like a heathen.

@ericapickering8101 4 ай бұрын

I frequently reach for a coffee mug…😂

@lawnerddownunder3461 4 ай бұрын

@ericapickering8101 it's a perfectly complete choice 👌

@rurombandarum6116 4 ай бұрын

replaying: the temple video shows basically no snow when they go to the afterparty, right? but O'Keefe was found on top of a layer of snow, wasn't he? Wouldn't that basically make the prosecutions theory concerning the timeframe impossible, since he must have gotten there after a layer of snow had fallen?

@horrormoviereactions 4 ай бұрын

The prosecution's timeline is unbelievable. Literally incredible.

@michele36618 4 ай бұрын

When I was little, my dentist’s name was Dr Shotts. He scared the hell out of me lol 💉

@darlashannon1202 4 ай бұрын

In any investigation you folliw the simplest possibility As Well as witness statements. The statememts take a backseat, though, because guilty people lie and memories aren't perfect. Especially memories that are effected by an ingested substance &/or possibly corrupted by discussions with others. That's why we seaprate/isolate witness. We need the freshest and cleanest memories of the witnesses. Once they talk to each other there's more and more grains of doubt added to their recall by us. Unless, of course, someone is trying to force a specific finding.

@MichelleSanGiorgio 4 ай бұрын

Good evening from Cape Town ......what a week in court this was.

@Artemis2317 4 ай бұрын

Have we heard any report of shards of the “shattered” taillight in John’s wounds?

@horrormoviereactions 4 ай бұрын

We've heard nothing about how the "evidence" links to John O'Keefe at all. It's laughable that they haven't even had an accident reconstruction expert. Probably because the expert wouldn't support their investigation, since it's definitely all lies.

@AnastasiaRoseDamrau 4 ай бұрын

We have not. There has also been no testimony about blood on the taillight pieces.

@tcorris 4 ай бұрын

Two unknown dna samples on O’Keefe’s drinking glass. 1. Dishwasher 2. Bartender Sloppy police work not getting easily verifiable DNA sources on the glass.

@benjaminshropshire2900 4 ай бұрын

What I want to know is the grand total number of unknown individuals between the different samples. Are they all the same people or not?

@sunnyadams5842 4 ай бұрын

Hey Runckle!!! The Brain Worm worm needs a DUPER'S Delight rictus grin! ImO .

@MimiDidi121 4 ай бұрын

Back to back Lally should be a crime!!!

@Chelle_Lynn319 4 ай бұрын

I'll never watch another trial where Lally is the prosecutor. I'm in too deep to stop watching this one though. 😅

@mariaparabello6344 4 ай бұрын

His constant throat noises are driving me bonkers! "And - harrumph - what if any .." 🥴

@Chelle_Lynn319 4 ай бұрын

@@mariaparabello6344 "what if any.. *cough* sort of... [case do we have]?"

@davidfoster3427 4 ай бұрын

Today I learned that the cell phone didn't move when he said it did.

@marcopalazzo9349 4 ай бұрын

Yes it did, it moved at the speed of light.

@JayeEllis 4 ай бұрын

Does that 99.85% exclude JO's niblings? I'm betting not. Same maternal line, right?

@MimiDidi121 4 ай бұрын

Watching today with EDB, I think she misheard some of this. Some of the unknown DNA was too small to match to another, but some they said was of unknown males because they didn’t have anything to compare it to. If they had the 2 Brians and Colin to compare it to, they could have because there was a large enough sample to compare to the Troopers. She either misspoke or misheard. Which is easy to do in this insane trial! Or I misunderstood her!

@intothemindshaft 4 ай бұрын

The swabs from the outside of car had min 3 traces , 2 male. The hair shaft was too small to test for nuclear dna

@dawnspeight9941 4 ай бұрын

I love the brain worm!!

@curteaton 4 ай бұрын

1:57:26 That was the most dejected "Get your cat's out of your lap" I've ever witnessed.

@teedubz1342 4 ай бұрын

I usually skip ahead on the replay crew- does runkle always give a wildly under-enthusiastic "boom" at the end of the intro? ....... brilliant

@CSTeears-68 4 ай бұрын

🎉😂Usually - occasionally he forgets lol

@barbaravaters4989 4 ай бұрын

Omg the brain 🧠 worm 🐛 is awesome 🤩 😂

@marianne8352 4 ай бұрын

At the very beginning of the stream, and just have to say I LOVE the expert witnesses, and have been SO frustrated that it’s taken so long to get to them!!!

@RogerS1978 4 ай бұрын

The prosecution have let the jury develop their own version of events, which at least some will question Reads involvement. Trying to convince them of something else later will be difficult.

@d2670 3 ай бұрын

I like your nerdiness. You crack me up. 😊

@Trish0978 4 ай бұрын

As someone who was watching live and then had to switch to replay crew MANY hours later, I would just like to pat myself on the back for guestimating where I was in the live *in my first try* wheeeee sheer, blind luck ftw

@woofbarkyap 4 ай бұрын

Yet again, car lenses just don't break that easily!

@leng7811 4 ай бұрын

My kiddo backed into the neighbor's SUV with my hatchback about a week ago. My taillight is 100% fine, and his has a tiny sliver out of it. The sliver fell on my bumper, so out of curiosity I left it there. Kiddo drove the 3 miles to work, home again, and it was gone. Stuff falls off of bumpers.

@michele36618 4 ай бұрын

@@leng7811 that’s a cool experiment you were able to do ! I asked my husband then other day (he knows nothing about this case) “if I were to hack into you, how fast would I have to hit you in order to break my taillight” he looked at me like I had lost my mind, then said “the light would have to hit bone In order to break”. I said what if I hit you, broke my taillight, and you have zero damage from the neck down….he said ummm no, you would probably break my pelvic bone. Funny thing is, he never asked me why I was asking 😂😂 I mean I told him but he didn’t ask. I guess he’s used to me asking random crime questions 😂😂

@RogerS1978 4 ай бұрын

You tested Canton trooper DNA, how many extra chromosomes were present?

@RogerS1978 4 ай бұрын

Also, how inbred are they?

@RogerS1978 4 ай бұрын

Also, how many points of cosanguinity to the nearest dozen?

@shawnpitman876 4 ай бұрын

They could have put the phone into airplane mode before handing it to the cop on the stand...

@Shangori 4 ай бұрын

3:00 I feel he knew that the more information Jackson had to work with, the easier it was to trip the witnesses. And that's the reason he worked 'backwards'. Or rather, have the critical information last.

@suzanne5544 4 ай бұрын

I couldn’t stop laughing when I watched you on tv last night… I was cracking up 😂 Lots of John’s in my family as well and half the guys will turn if that name is called.. My brother was the oldest male and he has 3 names due to family wanting to make sure their name got passed on. Rob was funny about you loving Yanetti’s tie!! Loved you saying “I’m not Tie Exclusive… lol 😂 I really needed all of these chuckles 🤭 and love to come here to hear the law and find the hilarity in it. Thanks Runkle!

@rosyb5064 4 ай бұрын

Think AJ is trying to show "look, planted pieces of light" but without saying it out right .

@l0ckmanjohn 4 ай бұрын

i think they knew the cops would be exposed as crooked but they had to bring them out anyways. So they brought the experts on last so they could create some distance from the officers testimony in the jurors minds.

@KimVerhaaff 4 ай бұрын

You get unknown dna on the glass from the bar staff

@lawnerddownunder3461 4 ай бұрын

Was a non-stained section of Johns pants tested as a control?

@michellekeith108 4 ай бұрын

In my family there are so many repeating names. On both sides my parents are the oldest siblings. My brother is the oldest grabdchild for both families. The arguments over his name got so bad my mum picked a name that no one in the family had. At one point the was 4 Thomas', 3 George's, 3 Alan's etc etc my poor mother was one of about 8 Margaret's!!

@spaceystaci1 4 ай бұрын

14:50 yes, please tell me about the excretion process 😂😂😂

@TheGoodKimmy 4 ай бұрын

I am so sad I keep missing the lives! 😢 I’m hopeful I can make it through the trial today in time for either FNF or your recap. Love ya Runkle! Thx for these!

@Spicoli1Bilek 3 ай бұрын

As long as the snow is a foot or under, I go out in slides, shorts and maybe a hoodie at 18°f. From the house to the car, about 45 meters. From the car to the store, how ever far I have to park. I'm mostly of cold climate blood.

@croshaide3168 4 ай бұрын

3:07:02 had to do this once in my hometown. Got through the whole book of pictures 24-30 and he wasn’t there they brought in a sketch artist from the local college and after they did the sketch with me doing a no the nose was almost beak like and a long face like mr Wilson from home improvement. He was found after that sketch

@michele36618 4 ай бұрын

The powerhouse of the cell 😂😂 omg flashbacks !

@loriduffecy9205 4 ай бұрын

I need to hear from the medical examiner before i have a verdict....so far i see nothing but reasonable doubt 🧐

@victorinegaudet4189 4 ай бұрын

I love getting your thoughts at the end of the day!

@greenfloatingtoad 3 ай бұрын

How funny would it be if he gave the cop a pad of paper and we had to watch him take a pop quiz on the stand

@karolinejones3407 4 ай бұрын

Had to catch you on the replay 😊

@IFBBProYeo 4 ай бұрын

2:26:03 I can imagine that in the history of all evidence collection, There's at least been one or two times where the evidence did break in the bag. It's definitely not outside the realm of possibility

@gloriahoulne 4 ай бұрын

Those 3 pieces did not for together according to the lab tech puzzle maker

@gregmatthews6544 4 ай бұрын

Yesterday I was watching the trial, while I was at my local plasma donation centre. As I walked in I noticed a lady at the check in counter, that was a “dead ringer “ for Karen Reed. She could have been her identical twin, everything about her from her body, hair, face, etc. was the same.

@aranelundomiel 4 ай бұрын

I wonder if they even care if she gets convicted because this circus means that the real killer doesn't get convicted regardless

@trish818 4 ай бұрын

I think maybe AJ deliberately asked Tully about Lucky to craft a defense for when he calls him on their case. I did hear in another recap that when Tully says he gets the time wing he fails to say that Lucky told them prior the time might not be correct. Also, the interview was by the defense and it was 2 years after the incident. So how could he really say he weighed the veracity if his statement?? I'm sure AJ/DY will shine the light on the truth for the jury.

@doreen684 4 ай бұрын

I thought him offering his phone to calculate was odd too Runkle..

@missmishka8379 4 ай бұрын

Reolay crew, pausing at 1:51:48 to just scream Come On! The response to Officer O'Keefe arriving at the Albert residence is "We believe so" when this whole case is about his body being left to die on the front lawn of that address. All of these CW witnesses are so antagonistic toward defense that they won't even give a simple, straightforward answer to that question. 🤬 right off, Trooper

@missmishka8379 4 ай бұрын

2:19:31 I legit read his "I didn't bring gloves with me today" as sus. He's all set for handling the evidence for Lally, but not Jackson? Anything maybe special about those gloves from the day before that Tully wants to make sure they're the same gloves handling the evidence? 👀

@pascalepierloot 4 ай бұрын

Come on, I’m Belgian and Runkle? Your Canadian. I think Boston has some hard wintery conditions as well...Do we need to hear from someone who is wearing shorts all year round? Is he from California? With 10 women on the jury, this won’t be a ’wow’ moment, it will only sound ridiculous. Like did you hear this clown, testifying to being a Yeti? But besides this...Tully wasn’t the most stupid witness we have heard already. To his credit he was one of the most prepared of all, did display some intelligence... Which begs the question of how he was able to stomach Trooper Proctor’s misplaced comments? Clearly there is something in Canton stinking incessantly more than Denmark ever did.

@quark_E 4 ай бұрын

2:15:00 Runkle I think you might have the Defense argument backwards. It was memorialized that they collected 3 pieces of plastic, however the bag only contained 2 pieces in court. So their argument is that a piece went missing, not that a new one was mysteriously added, no?

@barbaravaters4989 4 ай бұрын

🕵️‍♀️ replay but ready to get to work!

@melp8175 4 ай бұрын

Thanks Ian !

@d2670 3 ай бұрын

All these experts have proved John Okeefe to be John Okeefe.

@andreajoy55 4 ай бұрын

Maybe I'm confused but I heard they found DNA on the taillight. Not blood specifically, but DNA which can be from a multitude of things. I might have missed it though.

@michele36618 4 ай бұрын

They found John Okeefs dna on the taillight. But his blood was also on the ground directly under the broken taillight, soooo……. 🤷🏼‍♀️

@d2670 3 ай бұрын

@michele36618 He could've slipped on the snow and hit his head on the tail light while the car was parking and or parked. Was he walking to greet whomever was in the car when it happened?

@karleerader6262 4 ай бұрын

My son’s named Killian. I want him to go by Kill but let’s be honest it’ll be Ian.

@Nodalities 4 ай бұрын

LOL, the world's bloodiest beverage!

@lupepper1280 4 ай бұрын

Replay crew (as promised) I counted 8 "you lying c!" Yesterday... let's see if we can beat it (doubt it) x

@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783 4 ай бұрын

1:01:35 The hair to me is totally irrelevant!! Who'd be surprised to find someone's hair on their significant other's vehicle, that John was using that night, a snowy night requiring wiping off windows like the trunk window, one that's always parked in John's home garage... then stored as evidence, in the totally heated, ultra secure sally port, only accessible with logged key cards... unless the overhead doors open, then it's party time for the neighborhood... and the Sally port turns into the Waterfall like Proctor's magic evidence voodoo, and the surveillance system memorialized their fun acid tripping night, manifesting a perfect preexisting "Lexus sized" snow pile delineation outline... despite the "heated" in "heated garage", people randomly appear or dissappear and oh... Ya, a garage where John used to work!! To the shawk and whoreur of no one, a tiny hair laid lightly on this Lexus... surviving intact, after said lexus traveled / was towed... and brushed off multiple times in a blizzard... by people who were close to John... thus easily could've transferred a hair NATURALLY... STILL, the hair laid lightly on the lexus trunk area, defeating all travel and weather events, despite all the trunk/taillight tampering by officers, who testified on the stand to opening the trunk during their "investigation"... Likely more than just once. But by golly, that tiny hair, totally not transferred or planted, clung on by a few middle cells, while the hair ends partied and blew in the 60 mph tow in a blizzard. Oh, that hair also only shifted slightly to the breath of the evidence photographer. (surely, a much stronger breeze than flying thru a blizzard hitched to a tow truck!) Proving it's determination and strength. 😏🙄 Shure. 🙄 John's clothes and girlfriend's Lexus were obviously stored in his home/garage... and then stored in the "Evidence" garage... where he WORKED... SHOCK, it had one of his loose hairs lightly laying on it, in an area he likely touched that night, or shady officers with access to his evidence, work locker and areas of the building which John frequented, accidently or knowingly could've planted it. 1:18:07 this guy's been waiting forever to use octillion, in public with purpose. 😂

@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783 4 ай бұрын

My best theory of that night... John enters the main front door, everyone else had been using the side door by the driveway. Keep in mind John may have been reporting on drug activity involving people they're connected to and this could've been a total set up. That said, here's one of my theories which could be true regardless. John begins taking his shoes off in the front door entry way, as he normally did at his own home. (shoes could've alternatively fallen off in the struggle) The dog was let in from being outside, but they weren't watching the dog/front door interactions since everyone including Jen on dash cam, used the side door... Dog startles even more from the unexpected front door anomaly, and stranger/John, attacks John, John defends himself and guys there jump him, or even if they don't but are up in it, pulling the dog off him, in the struggle/fight, John falls down basement stairs... which are close to that front door... Falling down those stairs, John hits his head on the stairs, basement doors or the weight equipment at the base of the stairs and his phone flies off his person in the struggle, maybe the phone falls under the stairs or amongst weight equipment. (if they intentionally jumped him, any version of John in the basement works as well.) John gets knocked out from the fight/attack/fall and vomits, convulsing... They try just letting him recover, maybe even wash his clothes while he "recovers" but he doesn't. After 2:30am... They led him out the bulkhead door, while he's possibly barely alive to set him out in the yard by where he was dropped off, either to kick him out in their anger, or just get him out of their home. "Drunk man in snow" or hit by car /plow or maybe he got jumped before even entering home... might have been their initial plan. Telling each other "he never entered the home"... Higgins goes to the station to field any calls, etc., while they clean up 34 Fairview, etc. The 22 second call, I've shown in my short, was plenty of time to communicate the cover up plan. They make a bunch of calls trying to find the phone. They find it and possibly search thru it and delete incriminating things, ether just from the struggle or also anything from John's undercover drug investigation. I still wonder if Higgins or McCabe tampered with John's phones, surely he had two, work and home, no? I also wonder where John's gun was recovered. Was it on him? Just curious. Karen showing up was a gift to their plan, did I hit him?? Uh, yeah, sure, yup, totally. Exactly.

@wendygorman1027 4 ай бұрын

It’s cool. I watch you and LYK.

@mazieluke 4 ай бұрын

Found you through Emily

@greenfloatingtoad 3 ай бұрын

In a more sensible world, black box analysis programs would not be admissible. How can we be beyond a reasonable doubt if we can't see what it's doing?

@mariamckenna808 4 ай бұрын

This guy is not being honest. He is trying to save the reputation of his dept

@d2670 3 ай бұрын

The other individuals on the pant leg could be from a hamper.

@catherinebeacham1117 4 ай бұрын

Just catching up. So the only source of DNA on the tail light is the hair?

@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783 4 ай бұрын

@lawnerddownunder3461 4 ай бұрын

I'm starting to lean towards the "John knew something" theory

@Cameron_F 4 ай бұрын

How does John's phone get outside without recording any steps?

@lawnerddownunder3461 4 ай бұрын

@Cameron_F o on John while he's carried? Turned off?

@d2670 3 ай бұрын

The dog pulled his shoe off.

@FionaC1 4 ай бұрын

1:05:16 3 contributors on the glass?? I guess the bartender would be one… 🤔

@C-Rocks 4 ай бұрын

Love Runkle's quips like did she hit 3 people with her car if ther is 3 peoples DNA?

@katherinedinwiddie4526 4 ай бұрын

Blood sweat and tears

@melissahanawalt6383 4 ай бұрын

Have you heard the Bang Bang song from Turtle boy?? So Awesome! Worth a great laugh

@bonesonstones1 4 ай бұрын

Lets not bring that dude in here. He is a right-wing conspiracy theorist, and we should regard him as such.

@FionaC1 4 ай бұрын

2:50:21 “now, if you subtract the number you first thought of…”

@jastilkuhn1751 4 ай бұрын

I missed the live

@greengrendel 4 ай бұрын

Today... I think we all lost, lol.

@neilfelsbourg170 4 ай бұрын

Would they not have their phones on airplane mode while in court?

@maritzapierreaponte8538 4 ай бұрын

@1:58:50 is it improper to ask "why?" To the question, it wouldn't occur to police to knock on the door or 34 Fairview and ASK to enter the house within the first hours even in snowy conditions.

@FionaC1 4 ай бұрын

1:43:20 circles showing the (overlapping!) radii of the towers would be more helpful than these indecipherable dark on dark points

@IFBBProYeo 4 ай бұрын

Lollipop? It's a pin 📍

@TheClumsyFairy 4 ай бұрын

1:47:48 "As you know we all travel with our cell phones within arms reach" - I REALLY didn't like this point at all.. I don't travel with my cellphone within arms reach, I often leave it places because I'm clumsy. (see my name, I really am a clumsy fairy ). I don't have any issue with the idea that 'most' of us do, but not all.. I know it's nit-picky, BUT it's a court case, kinda need to be precise?

@avrilashobbychannel808 4 ай бұрын

2:24:40 Is it the mommy piece of plastic that contributes all the mitochondrial DNA or does that not work the same for taillights?

@galaxys6071 4 ай бұрын

He claimed he picked up 3 pieces... only one of the 3 was clear. ... he showed the jury 2 clear pieces... where did the extra unreported clear peice he took out come from????;

@galaxys6071 4 ай бұрын

Susch bs

@galaxys6071 4 ай бұрын

The problem with runkle/uncivil/rekita/lawlumber/Emily (financial services during girardi baker)/legalbytes......they all pretend not to see things... they all know better or worse they are candidates for fukery for views

@mrsharpie7899 4 ай бұрын

There's no excuse for this guy to not see the gloves; they should get all highlighted whenever he holds R1. Okay yeah joke over, I don't blame him either