Karens Don't Need No Stinking Legal Basis!

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[@wallyman292]

Never a good thing when the judge says "That last name sounds familiar. . ."

[@Kthb80]

“Yes, we have a small child at home but I don’t have the child at home because I lost my rights’

[@user-iv6bj3dn3e]

Had to pull my calculator out because this shit wasn’t adding up 😂

[@callie_5117]

​@@user-iv6bj3dn3e 😂😂😂

[@coral2183]

That awkward moment when someone you went to Highschool with is on LTWM.

[@mwhe3111]

Considering how slowly CPS works, how bad did that situation have to be for both parents' parental rights be terminated by the time she was 18 months old? And now she lives three houses down and they see her every day? 😒

[@UnscrupulousAgitator]

Exactly CPSs main, #1 priority is reunification. Usually at the expense of the children.

[@xxskizzumxx]

Probably addicted when child was born, so CPS gets involved immediately in those situations. They probably made them do drug programs which they never complied with.

[@robertnessful]

Saying you couldn't get to court to fight for custody of your child is a sure fire way of getting a psych evaluation and supervised visitation.

[@nataliehuntfox8772]

Right? I would move Heaven and earth to get custody of my child..

[@nataliehuntfox8772]

Why do people think it’s appropriate to chew gum when they appear before the judge? Bad manners

[@RedPanda79]

I don't know if they are Karens, just poor people who don't understand court laws

[@da4441]

How is the last woman allowed to be on camera without her face showing due to backlighting?? Having a camera only show a silhouette should not be allowed.

[@ronfullerton3162]

I have noticed on the zoom court system that there are a fair number of people who do this. I have seen a couple of judges that said the people had to move or do something to make their faces recognizable. But many of the judges just let it go. I wonder if those judges would also let a person appear in person in court with a mask on.

[@ascaulesavunculo5589]

Judge: What is your basis for modifying custody? Karen: All the bases! 'Cuz I want 'em!

[@snooganslestat2030]

Plus she doesn't want to pay support.

[@grbenway]

judge did the ole "want in one hand and shit in the other" example

[@bethewalt7385]

Wish in one hand shit in the other and see which fills up first is the actual expression

[@FD2003Abc]

"I object because I don't like the decision. " Perry Mason moment.

[@tanjajohnson4659]

I accidentally missed a court date that was to determine the residential custody of my child. That alone speaks volumes about her. It appears that her main concern is that she is paying support. I get the feeling (from decades of experience) that if she wasn't ordered to pay support, there would have been no hearing.

[@JustDiane71]

100%

[@GeriatricHippo]

Bingo. How anyone can miss what is one of if not the most important obligation you will have in your entire life is beyond me.

[@streetcop157]

When he tried to talk to the girlfriend on her way out of court and she replied over her shoulder while not breaking stride…she has been charged with contempt before….

[@m.ccheddarbox874]

They essentially went into court and said, "Because I said so."

[@justajeepgirlandherdogs]

Can you imagine the court system if, Because its what I want", was an actual defense. 😮

[@WAID-xy7wq]

They only think about all these things after they’ve screwed up!

[@powbobs]

So the first couple lied about having a child in their house.

[@deanw2013]

"I want her to live with me". That woman certainly isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. I feel sorry for the one who had to be married to her!

[@sherriesmith2587]

Who misses their child custody court date?? Who misplaces THAT paperwork?? That is just insane!! It doesn't make sense! It seems to me that date would be the most important thing going on in your life!! ...I'm not too sure I believe her.

[@josephrobichaud5198]

They always have a job "coming up" that they still do not have, and have to get out to "take care" of someone, when they have no job, most often not even a drivers license.

[@tomwhite716]

All of these litigants should have hired a lawyer. DIY divorce or custody is never advised.

[@ED-es2qv]

And whoever they said they need to care for, that's whose food he's eating.

[@WilliamTaylorIII]

IF, that's a BIG IF you are actually and honestly looking for a job you can have one in a few days. MOST employers drug test new employees and that has been the case for about 20 years, THAT could be their problem finding employment.

[@justkaren6450]

On top of every person who misses court or violates bond/probation has a family member who died. It’s ridiculous!

[@barnhousedesignspa9251]

Lol! You need a headphone warning ⚠️ between the two videos. The clerk in the second video sounded like the screaming goat in the beginning 😂😂😂😂

[@mr.waldodebaldo3208]

A lot of Parents in these cases care more about themselves than their kids.its all just very sad

[@tenmark7055]

Ah, operating under the legal principle where I tell the judge what I want and he gives it to me. What could be clearer?

[@jasonhanney547]

CN you imagine presiding over family court all day and listening to childish behavior from adult children

[@armandovega4597]

That third case, if the court gave custody to the father, there’s probably a good reason why they want the girls away from the mother since both girls are with their dads.

[@lbethbennett]

Sad though that 2 sisters will be separated. I really hope the dads make that sibling relationship a priority.

[@amyhunter7401]

Yah, I call BS on mom not having custody because she missed a singular court date.

[@jim6214]

Ms. Ward, the "cousin by marriage", said she "had reliable" transportation, but does she have a driver's license, insurance, and registration for that "reliable transportation"? Did the defendant's attorney deliberately NOT ask her that question? I wonder . . .?

[@magi267]

The "cousin-in-law" shouldn't she just say she was a friend? Also he doesn't have the baby at home. Liar.

[@ScubaFanatic60]

And if she has a job how can she say she'll always be available?

[@cherylkelley5586]

I am always amazed at the "witnesses" who can ensure that the criminal will behave, show up, not violate probation, etc. etc. How is it these "witnesses" cannot keep the idiot out of trouble in the first place??????

[@pamelawalker859]

No, what started this whole mess is him breaking the law.

[@davidponseigo8811]

I'm retired law enforcement and the first thing I ever learned in Criminal Justice classes and later on the job was that criminals lie. The longer I worked the more I realized the extent of the lies they would tell.

[@liamgio795]

This is not a criticism, but don’t police also lie?

[@steverushforth7009]

@@liamgio795 The difference is the police have everything to lose lying, criminals have nothing to lose lying.

[@liamgio795]

@@steverushforth7009 thank you for admitting that police lie. How often do they lie?

[@EbonMaster]

​@@liamgio795 The criminals have guns, police have to have guns. The criminals have lies and misdirection....

[@SonjaPierce]

I work in customer service and it's the same thing there. People will lie in any and all ways they can think of to get what they want or think they deserve from the company. One of the bigger job duties I have is telling customers "no".

[@ruthisaurus8004]

Can anyone explain to me why so many people appearing in court via zoom, choose to do it from a vehicle? I just don’t get it? Why not be in your home? It just looks so unprofessional- and attorneys do it too!

[@Pudef9]

Weird isn’t it!!!

[@jten6632]

Privacy, sometimes if at work etc it’s the only private option

[@missynorman6304]

And sometimes (ok once) an attorney is actually driving and put up a fake background! 🤦

[@henrysmith180]

2nd judge was excellent for explaining the process to both mom and dad. So many judges wouldn't take the time.

[@rahulshah1408]

The ref analogy is excellent.

[@jim6214]

@8:18 Mr. Pelt says his "daughter lives three houses away" and he and his girlfriend try to see her every day, but does he have "vistitation rights" to see his daughter?

[@bend3rbot]

The WORST KIND of deadbeat dad is the one that ignores the needs if the kid he DOESN'T HAVE !!! 😢😂😢😂😅

[@crescentmoonchild4031]

The lady who wanted her child back probably didn’t tell the whole story. Hard to believe that missing a court date would cause her to lose her child. All she had to do was call and explain and ask for another date…there is more to this story I am sure

[@snooganslestat2030]

Agree! If the child is sooooo important she would have phoned the court to get the date.

[@henrysmith180]

Courts *always* grant the petitioning party their case when the other party doesn't show up. Default judgments are standard practice in those cases.

[@makenziecely]

@@snooganslestat2030unfortunately, the court (even when a call is made to inform them of an inability to appear) has very few options when one party fails to show for a custody determination hearing. Most of the time, a default judgement is made in favor of whichever party is present. I’m sure there are instances wherein a judge, or even the other party, will permit a continuance- it just is not standard practice.

[@liamgio795]

Judge, I don’t understand word of art legal jargon as I am not an attorney so, I object to everything. Whatever “object” means.

[@PFMediaServices]

ALL OBJECTIONS!!

[@joels5150]

Every criminal has a real tear-jerking, heart-wrenching, sob story to tell the judge, and they just really need for the judge to listen and take pity on them. F’ing liars through and through.

[@carriepriegel6477]

Good judges in particular have incredibly stressful occupations. To endure the relentless stream of miscreants and habitually reckless & morally bankrupt doofs would be overwhelming.😢

[@brendaschmidt9172]

I used to be a Legal Assistant and Paralegal and in court the judge would usually hear the same story most of the day. It is like defendants get together in a back room trying to figure out what to say. I would never want to be a Judge.

[@VicSSM334]

Technically a criminal minded person all have a deception mindset and yes the system already knows they coming back because statistics shows they will repeat their criminal behavior and get back locked up because they fear to change or use excuses to justify their actions, judges knows very well they lying but give ppl the opportunity to change before they make a bigger mistake that will cost their life but set them free to prove that theory. Many of those coming through court don’t have jobs, most do drugs, and many have a history so like they always say,” the truth will always be in front of you” 💯

[@md73737373]

Yep. And they do share. Just like criminals.

[@redpill1940]

I wouldn't want to be a lawyer either!

[@Mewse1203]

Gabriella Labue: "I believe Me and Ms. Hickman can agree on something" Ms. Hickman did not feel the same as she shook her head "No" when she said that.🤣🤣

[@johnthelabman8560]

How could you not have important court dates not written down on a calendar(s) and not be checking it regularly. I suspect there is more going on than we know. If she thinks she has such a strong case where is her attorney.

[@JESSES_CURIOUSLY_CURIOUS]

Thanks Mike for being responsible with the thruple clip

[@Poobyskates]

His judgement is not based on lack of candy

[@pleasestopurcrap]

Most judges will not give legal advice ever. They wont describe any of the steps, the specific paperwork to submit or anything..they say talk to a lawyer....why is he giving her legal advice?

[@rhanBo]

Paying $300 for child care is awfully cheap

[@johnthelabman8560]

How can you not have court dates written down in multiple places. I see her filling case after case.

[@Jim-hj4py]

If I had a court date for something so important I would have notes all around my house in every room I use regularly.

[@Meatball2022]

7:07 I once had a premature thruple on a quick “business trip” to Tijuana. It was very embarrassing.

[@philipstanco6011]

I keep hearing the word “thruple”. Can you tell me what it means?

[@rchaseio]

Three people in a sexual relationship.

[@schlageschlage]

It’s a type of exercise involving 3 people. There’s a lot of thrusting. 💃🧍🏽‍♂️🕺

[@philipstanco6011]

@@rchaseio Thank you

[@Meatball2022]

@@philipstanco6011 stems from a case Mike reviewed months ago where all the litigants sexual proclivities had to be discussed repeatedly. And frankly, the word sounds funny…

[@chasbo25]

This is why you hire an attorney for Pete's sake. Want to get your kid back A. don't miss court and B. hire an attorney. Some attorneys will set up payment plans if you don't have the cash upfront. I had a guy I worked with who's ex played all the games in Cook County, Mike's neck of the woods, and he had a running tab of $5K with his attorney. He would pay what he could monthly and she kept growing his tab. Nice divorce annuity for his lawyer.I think she is going to stomp her feet. Then the crying, "I didn't get my way! waaaa, waaaa, waaaaa."

[@atxcats42]

I'd pick the parent that doesn't misplace the papers with the court date. Imagine having that mother - she'd forget to send lunch money, wouldn't make the parent-teacher meetings, and wouldn't bake cupcakes or cookies for the class when it was her turn.

[@bernicedavidson9994]

I may have missed one or 2 but always made up for it later for my babies . I know they had friends in class they wanted to impress with my famous bumble 🐝 🧁

[@mydobie130]

I want what I want and I want it now😂😂😂😂

[@Tam58851520]

But your Honor the Veruca Salt defense of "I WANT IT NOW" - is a legal basis. Isn't it?

[@heatherweis4471]

Love how people come in and want the judge be their lawyer.

[@barelyasurvivor1257]

They always have a job starting soon. Any excuse to not make parole appointments

[@jdranetz]

Gabrielle Labue had a default judgement? She didn't show up I assume. I think she thought not showing would delay, not cause her to lose. Now, she wants a do over. She wants to "take a Mulligan"? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@PFMediaServices]

Default is pretty typical when one party doesn't show up.

[@JESSES_CURIOUSLY_CURIOUS]

300 a month, that's nothing already

[@pignapoke6772]

“I was very sad and gloomy and when i felt better it had done defaulted” Oh in that case…

[@SandraSdt85]

I appreciate your French, it always makes me feel special when you use it. Today, it made me laugh though, instead of final blow (coup de grâce) you said strike of fat. I now have the strike of fat visual in my head!

[@R0ca_Phyl]

C’est quoi le Time stamps pour le dernier coup de grâce je devais être dans la “lune” car j’ai pas réaliser qu’il avait dit “coup de grâce” passe un bon week-end!!

[@bethewalt7385]

Verbatim it's stroke of fat......

[@sveabryan9126]

Parenting time is so important. If at all possible, parties should work together to resolve issues that keep the non custodial parent separated from their children. Coparenting is in the best interest of the children ❤

[@PruneHub]

In theory, yes. It ain't always like that in reality.

[@ED-es2qv]

At 10:00, that girlfriend didn't even look toward her boyfriend until he said he loved her, and she flat toned it back. I swear, she didn't give a crap about him. She played her part and she ain't waiting 2 years.

[@STI2000]

I’ve never had to make an argument before the court but it seems to me that you shouldn’t lead with “I had a mental health issue.”

[@ryanmcclosky3312]

Lmao yeah I would have taken a different approach 😂

[@jim6214]

What is it with the court system, all they care about laws, laws, laws, and "legal arguments"? That's not FAIR.

[@ScubaFanatic60]

Except you have to pronounce it FAY-ER!

[@user-ir3uz7ms2s]

The attorney in the 3rd circus ring is going to eek out every penny of his $50/hr!!

[@cherylcantrell2426]

These people never learn because they think the laws don't apply to them.i feel sorry for that child I can't believe it has a good home.😮😢😮

[@kristielforeman5507]

So it doesn’t help to have family speak in support of your release.

[@julieschneider340]

If you don't want to get screwed in the divorce, maybe show up to court.

[@ryanmcclosky3312]

The first 2 women are probably thrilled that boyfriend is leaving for 2 years😂

[@Crash33333a]

A little bit of a coincidence, my ex-wife's name is Karen.

[@K-ck7kp943]

The guy doesn't seem to interested. Plus, he was driving.

[@angrymarie7755]

Hey,hey,now. Panama City doesn't want him back. We're full.

[@tontab3495]

I bet these mothers turn children against the dads. These women need to learn how this affects children.

[@jaydiaz8666]

my ex did. damage is done.

[@Fantic156]

Having a speculative thrupple sounds a fine way to waste some immoral time.....

[@joeballman916]

She looks stunned

[@MrRonpaulforprez]

I notice some folks love to backlight themselves, making their faces blacked out ...

[@JustDiane71]

We have to show proof?!? Damn guess we're going to have to keep working.

[@alunchurcher7060]

Rules are set for a reason do follow them or pay the price. Every business has rules just like courts but unlike in court you break the rules in work you only get fired and not imprisoned. Even when growing up as a child we have rules to follow, set by parents and schools and most of society follow these rules or expect dome sort of punishment.

[@fdfoodfairy2834]

A veritable Karen trifecta🚒

[@chasbo25]

FYI the word M O R O N is now a restricted term. It was a medical designation from MDs based off IQ levels. I will go with Bugs Bunny and say what a Maroon from now on🤣

[@Kthb80]

Really? That was one of my last safe words that wasn’t a curse.

[@medinasrosarioz4543]

Give me a break, she wants her daughter back because it comes with a nice bundle of child support, in addition to not having to pay

[@Mycosyco1]

Thanks Mike! Always a fun watch!

[@Rooster8741]

I can absolutely guarantee that if I was in a custody battle for my children, there's no way in h*ll I would lose the court papers. And if I did (house burned down or something understandable), I would be on the phone immediately to the court, getting new paperwork and verifying the date and time. And my behind would be showing up 30 minutes early too! Someone who loses the paperwork and doesn't take care to make note of the court date is not good parent material!

[@cherylkelley5586]

HOWEVER, this people believe it is never their responsibility to own their issues and take care of things themselves!

[@jenniferlwinkler]

Dang. Two years was harsh for Mr Pelt

[@user-nr6xm5fw2r]

I want what I want & nobody ever told me NO!!!😊😮😊

[@mrsangelafisher]

Good catch prosecutor...

[@pilotdave9442]

Aren't Karens seeking $$$ from the Ex priceless ?

[@taaurus13]

If his atty knew they were gonna purposely mislead the court about their kid he could get in trouble, huh? Also, tank top, ripped jeans, flip flops and a bonnet? For COURT? Who are all these people who think that kinda clothing is courtroom attire? 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@phyllistaylor5634]

I think he meant to say she needs a lawyer!

[@user-ir3uz7ms2s]

I second that a"motion"...😂

[@cforn]

What the heck is it with people who feel like it it appropriate to appear from their car? A cop who is appearing while on duty gets a pass, IMO. Regular people? Who (presumably) have a home of some sort? I just don't get it.

[@marciamartin5559]

Do you think maybe they have to leave work to go to court.

[@wallyman292]

Ok. . . Regarding that second clip. Ya gotta mute that clerk next time!!! Holy cow was that an annoying sounding voice!!!

[@BlackCatBonkers]

The defendant looks like a damn werewolf!!

[@ericwood9513]

Aww $300 a month, you poor thing, and for your own child too, that's bullshit......

[@tommymarcelain3583]

That mom sounds like my crazy ex. I raised my daughter for 3 years we go for divorce n then I am a bad n need a supervisor when seeing my daughter

[@chrislsommers]

I appreciate you not just using the thrupple clip willy-nilly. With great power...

[@LawTalkWithMike]

😂

[@user-zl7ec2lg6e]

Everybody has a job coming up…….😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@cristineconnell7803]

No Mike, they have a child, but don't have the child! They lost parental rights! WHY is my question? I bet it's not hard to guess😂😂

[@user-zl7ec2lg6e]

I thought the woman in black undershirt was defendants mother!!!😮😮😮😮

[@PapaDon46]

My children have been taken from me. Just because they are married and in their 50's, that shouldn't be the end of it.

[@savage_optimist]

Not all people who annoy Mike are 'Karens' 🙄 is this man really a fully functional lawyer?

[@teresaclark5465]

Mike there's a crazy funny sovcit on Arkansas Police Activity, it says sovcit so you can find it easy!

[@theresagarcia4892]

Panama City. Florida. And there is the whole sordid story. SMH. Lol

[@stevecarper4149]

Hello long time lister , New member mike😊😊

[@superbeast654321]

Out of curiosity if I wanted to watch local cases how would I go about that? I’m interested in seeing some of the cases the judges in my county deal with

[@tlucas7031]

It depends on your county. Different jurisdictions have different policies on recording in courtrooms, and judges have a lot of discretion on how that happens too. Some courts live stream theirs, others don't allow cameras in the courtroom at all. If your county allows it, you could probably find it on the county court's website, or by calling the courthouse and asking how you could access it.

[@superbeast654321]

@@tlucas7031 thank you so much!

[@FrankGallagher-OG]

Go to the courthouse & file a FOIA with the clerks office. Well that assuming ur county records the courtroom & does zoom

[@jtmnyallbudsnoseeds]

How come I always hear "I have an interview foe a new job tomorrow ","I'm looking forward to starting a new job next week", but rarely ever do I hear "I have an actual, full time, and tax paying form of employment CURRENTLY "