Karma, Being Shameless and Glass Closets with JoJo Siwa

[@ritac28]

We need Renee Rapp on this podcast

[@caitlynl7213]

came here to comment this. plsss get renee

[@casarapika1993]

Yeahhh

[@ambarcastillo5492]

yesssss!!!!!!!!

[@ashleycottone]

PLEEEEASE

[@rosymess]

Reneé should've been on here before Jojo imo

[@notnala7]

craziest crossover event in lesbian history

[@J_Themborn]

Eat your heart out Marvel movies

[@colgate_andrade]

It's both of our favorite internet lesbian dramas together (shannon × fletcher // jojo siwa × avery cyrus) it really brings everything together 🫡

[@canniloni]

if we’re talking about exes on podcasts…i would pay money for shannon to invite cammie, i think it might be a really wholesome episode

[@alisonnelson161]

I agree!! How is Shan gonna give us 2 fletcher eps but ZERO cammie???

[@nanaekuasomuah5140]

I knowwwww!! I wake up every Wednesday hoping to See Cammie in the title. Lol

[@MollyVSmurl]

NOW we’re talkin’ 🎉🎉🎉

[@Gizmosnitto13]

Cammie is married so maybe her or her wife don’t want to entertain it ?

[@rubyrachel_6156]

It’s givingggg you don’t keep up with Cammie

[@chiarapasini1189]

SHANNON YOU SHOULD HAVE CHAPPELL ROAN ON THE PODCAST!!

[@sarahseman2578]

yes !!! please i love chappell

[@mollydyer1512]

Yes!!!

[@elizabethcook5954]

I agree I agree I agree

[@intrepid_astronaut]

Omg, yes, thisssssssss!!!!

[@anne6448]

begging for this

[@CaseyandBreelyn]

I don't care about Jojo being cringey online thats not why I dislike her, I dislike her because of her support and association with james charles and colleen.

[@janecarney3492]

I agree, also not her shouting out Michael Jackson, doesn’t exactly show that she takes on board very serious allegations of child abuse

[@lilyyy45]

exactly she can post and act however she likes but supporting abusers is not ittttt

[@sophieblair7466]

and abuse of children with her mum

[@ChocolatexCherries3]

​@@janecarney3492michael jackson is not a child abuser. he was literally proven innocent in a criminal trial.

[@colgate_andrade]

Omg she did that too 😰

[@alhhbjtrdcnko]

Jojo saying she wants kids so soon legitimately scares me. She comes across far too self-centred to take care of a kid. And after the abuse to children that she was implicit in and the abusers she surrounds herself with...please no. She doesn't realise all the grooming she went through, saying "me at 12 was different" is literally a groomed child response from being told they're "so mature". I think this is why she now comes across as a kid trying to sit at the adult table. I really hope she's in very good therapy

[@ntombekhayazibi1836]

Your opinion about her or how she "comes out to you" unfortunately says nothing about WHO she IS privately. You are judging her based on Like 30/40 percent of what you see..... But also IT IS better to be born in a Family that really wants you AS a Kid than Just be a surprise to a 16 year old WHO Had unprotected sex....

[@katie.e.g.]

*complicit … not implicit 😂

[@alenamalik]

i guess she’s the dream guest on your podcast 😭

[@villanelle-dyke]

no that position goes to cari ahaha

[@3Oh3metrostation]

I'm hoping for Cate Blanchet, Kristen Stewart, and Adelaide Kane one day 🤞🤞 Shannon can do anything she sets her mind to.

[@lisakhanyarini5209]

this is so funny😭😭😭

[@z0kiss889]

this made me laugh

[@sofiavesentini7391]

All I can think of is that your guests have "outside clothes" on your bed lol

[@taylor_aka_tbabz]

Literally was thinking the same thing watching lmaoo

[@DHU11]

so what

[@laurenm1474]

omg 100% !!!

[@stephanijussani4862]

omg yessss

[@Sarah22456]

It's not the bed she sleeps on surely??

[@Kree.B.]

Disliking JoJo over being who she is isn't ok. Disliking JoJo for cosigning and supporting harm to children is valid. Even if she was a victim, she is now also a perpetrator and it's not okay.

[@SadieLadie44]

Thank you for this! I think Jojo is young and discovering herself and that’s so valid and at the same time she has made some choices that holding her accountable for is important so that she can continue to grow in good ways

[@auntiefup9248]

SAY THIS LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!! ❤

[@marianap.h3961]

I don’t know what that woman is up to now, how is she supporting harm to children?

[@Allykey-d4c]

@@SadieLadie44how does she support harm to children? Thats an absurd statement

[@SadieLadie44]

@@Allykey-d4c I am no expert and only stand by believing she has made some choices that she should take accountability for so I don’t want to over step here, but if you’re interested in some of the items that came to mind for me when I saw she was the guest, I would maybe look into the XOMGpop group and some of the families that have spoken out. Fully entitled to your own opinion surrounding it and I’m not here to cancel Jojo. I just believe she is becoming (well already is) major representation for our community and I think with that power comes responsibility and accountability and I want her to succeed in a way that doesn’t bring other people down.

[@Apfelschorly]

"My manager is a lesbian, my merch is owned by a lesbian, my agent is gay" ... I am a lesbian, most of my audiences are gay people. 👏 we are everywhere now! Thanks, Shan. 😂

[@sarahlerch9413]

This is everything i would have expected from you Shannon. Fantastic episode. You are the queen of creating a safe space . Well done 👏.

[@SamantasinH]

One thing i love about this podcast is that you are genuinely not afraid of facing controversy, and i admire you for that.

[@RebeccaNoyes]

In the kindest way possible....I'm having a hard time supporting JoJo because of the *extreme vanity*. Comparing herself to Lady Gaga, who literally broke so many barriers for the queer community and faced extreme ridicule and backlash from society at large, who didn't really become famous until she'd already written, recorded, and produced an entire album....when JoJo released one song she didn't write or produce and is getting critiqued for saying things like "I want to create a new genre of music called gay pop" and then when being called out for that, saying "I didn't create it, but I'll be the Chief Marketing Officer" is absolutely WILD and RIDICULOUS.

[@Rainbow_Warrior_Princess]

"*extreme vanity*" Many singers and actors are vain and pretentious, whereas Jojo is instead more of an extrovert and addicted to attention which is also not unusual for celebrities, but what makes her special is not being afraid of being different, homosexual, cringy and weird and also not of negative feedback, as she is sadly used to be bullied and made fun of from a very young age being a child star and public figure.

[@turquoiseblue29]

she's just having fun, it's not that deep.

[@sophieblair7466]

this is the only reason you don't support JoJo? not because of the fact she has abused children and supports predators?

[@RebeccaNoyes]

@@sophieblair7466 other folks have already commented that but for me it goes without saying that I don't support her for abusing children or supporting the Ballingers either. So to your question that's right, I also don't support her for those reasons.

[@english-tudor]

Eh idk abt this

[@gabriellefeery8287]

Request for Chappell Roan and Reneé Rapp as guests please!! 🩷

[@rosymess]

i agree! those girls are so booked & busy though 😭

[@presleyfayewestbrook]

And Towa!

[@jrm51890]

yesterday, i saw someone on my flight from phoenix to boston with one of your Dorothy hats on. loved to see it.

[@rosun00]

Shanon please get Renne here!!

[@WISH2025]

@nowthisisliving YES. please

[@athanott]

I like how Shannon hinted that there might be some concerning things happening in JoJo's life. Food for thought for her. Hopefully she's listening.

[@GingerPhoenix4999]

Fletcher ✔️ GFlip✔️ Jojo✔️ Kristen Stewart Chappel Roan Renee Rapp Nxdia Marie (Girl in Red)

[@ChibbyChan-ik9nx]

Clairo, UMI

[@WastefulMedia]

me***

[@natsjourney6570]

Cammie

[@owesome2]

Raven??? she was here. Zolita??? She was here too. HALSEY MILEY CARLIE HASON PLEASEEE CARLIE Astrid Avery Cyrus

[@BrookeSearleArt]

Don't forget... HAYLEY KIYOKO

[@3Oh3metrostation]

Proud of Shannon for her 25th weekly episode! U did it 🎉🎉🎉 (don't forget to like the videos, guys)

[@laminsangmu4416]

*Manifesting Clairo on this pod*

[@zoetyyler]

My life would be complete.

[@laminsangmu4416]

@@zoetyyler so fulfilled

[@xdreamerxstar]

i want soph mosca on this podcast

[@lovarou]

I wonder if JoJo goes to therapy coz.. she's going thru some things.. I hope she is truly fine..

[@valytrix]

We don’t care that you’re friends with adults. We care that you’re friends with Colleen ballinger, a very controversial, predatory human. Hope this helps

[@isa382]

jojo has had a strange difficult childhood, but let’s not pretend that hasn’t had some pretty disturbing stories come out about how she treats the dance group she organized and funded (xomg). interesting interview, but ultimately just 1 hour of a narcissist ranting.

[@katieshouse9599]

yuuuuup

[@mirandamason8009]

29 year old lesbian here, every day my gf and I see JoJo content and talk about how our community isn't giving her any grace to figure herself out or make mistakes. So relieved to see this talked about on a real platform. There's space for all of us

[@katiequinn8130]

Thanks for this. The hate is sad! Human being.

[@marianap.h3961]

So, was Shannon a little bit of a people pleaser here?

[@413078291]

Not crazy about this guest choice... let's stick to folks who don't speak out against abuse victims pls 😑

[@Rainbow_Warrior_Princess]

Jojo didn't speak out against "abuse victims" ... !

[@Sammy_T12]

@@Rainbow_Warrior_Princess Nope she didn’t. You’re exactly right. She handled her own abuse differently. She was still supportive to the girls on the show :) Why people think she abuses children is beyond me

[@chuggywap]

@@Sammy_T12 maybe because you're misinformed so you don't get it. Do some more research about how she was shitty to the girls in the dance group she produced with her mother and how they told one girl that was bleeding from her bellybutton to put a pad on it, some crazy shit I would suggest you be careful with who you decide to speak up for before you know everything

[@Myfs-myths-]

@@Sammy_T12ur. Restarted

[@loiteringspy8063]

this could have been a really great productive conversation, and instead it was just a space for jojo to spew her narcissistic nonsense and not learn anything yet again.

[@zoetyyler]

Your @ is “loiteringspy” and that sends a red flag for me tbh 🤣 why is she not supposed to talk about herself when she’s being interviewed on a podcast ????

[@isa382]

@@zoetyylerit’s not the fact that she was talking about herself, it’s that she takes no responsibility for her behavior and/or mistakes.

[@english-tudor]

Honestly i bet its her PR team because she is so poorly media trained that without strict interview ramifications, she'd run her career into the ground.

[@anikarahman193]

19:05 Ellen is awesome. Thank u!! Some now take for granted how much backlash Ellen went thru for publicly coming out and what she did for gays like me. She lost everything in 1998. She had to defend queerness against homophobes on Oprah just for saying she's gay out loud. Her sitcom was cancelled. She received death threats and took them with a grace. She turned around much of middle America years later through her talk show and love and humor. I will never ever ever forget the day that she announced the legalization of gay marriage in 2008. I was only 13 and didn't know I was gay but that day still makes me cry. She will forever hold my gratitude and a place in my gay heart for everything she means to me and queer history...

[@1ndonly_Bella24]

1:10:30 HELP THE WAY AVERY CYRUS RESPONDED TO THIS PART IN A SHORT SAYING THANK GOD😭

[@Myfs-myths-]

Cause bro 😂

[@Gabssxoxo]

What a disappointing choice of guest, but i guess its the views that matter right?? As a queer person who lives in a state that is consistently demonizing and calling queer people predators its weird you would give someone who is not only friends with abusers/groomers, but speaks out AGAINST victims access to your platform. Lets do better...Let's also not forget that she and her mom have been accused of abuse and exploitation..

[@jomarie47]

Thank you for having JoJo on! It’s so easy for us to forget that celebrities are just people too. She’s literally a baby and just discovering who she is and who she wants to be. So much of her life has been planned/organized for her that now she has the freedom to figure it out for herself. Like you said, we all need to give her some grace.

[@rozlynspero8322]

Shannon, You truly have created such a safe and calm space. Thank you for making this and showing the human side of people that are intentionally marketing themselves to get the attention( positive or negative). Keep going strong and so excited for the new merch!

[@musicftw711]

Nooooooooo she abused kids and advocated for adults who were inappropriate with KIDS. How is everyone so quick to forget that 😭 Edit: just because someone is part of the queer community doesn’t mean we should support bad people.

[@emovemo]

ikr i just went YIKES after seeing the title

[@Kree.B.]

My comment for wanting to know why we should support someone who cosigns harming children in multiple ways just because they're queer got erased.

[@Loobaloopaloooo]

I feel like the bullying of small children and forcing a disabled child to wear a maxi pad over her tummy button after being forced to get back to work after a surgery is pretty bad though… and I don’t know if people like that deserve to have a huge platform and be millionaires/billionaires and helping to find a genoside is pretty bad.

[@Rainbow_Warrior_Princess]

@musicftw711 "she abused kids" That is a false allegation. Not she, but _her mother Jessalynn_ allegedly _mistreated_ one or some of the dance group girls. Besides, Jojo is not "bad" .

[@Rainbow_Warrior_Princess]

@@Kree.B. "someone who cosigns harming children in multiple ways" That is a false allegation.

[@jackiemartinez3324]

Im not a jojo siwa hater and i was excited to watch this but I think you could’ve done better with this one Shan. No difficult questions, no hard conversations, no deepness. It felt like you were walking on egg shells, and all the topics were gassing her up or agreeing with everything she said. I know you can’t re do this but if you ever have another controversial guest, I think you should try to have a genuine conversation

[@Mackenziedoingthings]

This was so special! Shannon you’re so eloquent and a really good interviewer!

[@_cp96]

I liked this ep more than I expected! It made Jojo a real person for me. She carries/articulates herself well and it is sooo important to remind ourselves she is literally 21. Thank you for hosting her! Jojo: keep doing you

[@eahouse1020]

Being 20 and being best friends with a 13 yr old is weird tbh

[@zoetyyler]

That’s why she said she wasn’t friends w a 13 y/o

[@cocorne080]

well, she was friend with a 30 year old when she was like 12 so i'm not surprised

[@dianamorfinzepeda]

I really love this episode, and get to know JoJo as a person that have feelings, and not just the character everyone try to make fun on

[@Kim_yt1]

I think JoJo is okay, I just wish she was a bit more humble, it would make her so much more likeable. Yes she did great things, but she always makes it sound like she did the greatest things in the world.

[@cozycornerz]

I love confident women 😍 I love lesbians 😍

[@english-tudor]

Jojo is defs going through a tranformative phase but her way of wording things doesn't come off as masture, it comes off as arrogant and naive. Wish her the best and wild episode lol

[@ButteredToastandChocolateMilk]

shes twenty.. relax

[@aliciagilmore7895]

I’m on team Renee Rapp for next podcast 😜

[@nicolette329]

Another great episode Shannon and it was such a delight to get to hear and see Jojo in such a comfortable safe open space. Your ability to showcase your guests apart from their online or onstage persona’s really makes you see that they are just as normal as anyone else just trying to navigate through this life is a really special gift you have at being an amazing host

[@JeseWanderlust]

This was a great conversation, the energy was vibing. Thanks for consistently being a safe space for all of our queer community🫶

[@WISH2025]

✨Manifesting all your dream guests on Shannon's podcast✨ 🌈Everything is possible🌈

[@3Oh3metrostation]

WE BELIEVE IN SHANNON

[@Robsymae]

I loved this interview. You did such a great job humanizing Jojo. She may be just a kid, but she is a damn hard working kid.

[@Myfs-myths-]

Abusive and gross

[@pottertardis9706]

She is just 20 she is so young.

[@Myfs-myths-]

@@maddymaiolo171who cares 😂

[@luciaj394]

I don’t think I’ve ever been awake this late/early to watch a podcast so soon.. but im going to watch it now!

[@Gem_celly]

Really nice one!! Thank you shannon for bringing her to your platform. As a millennial lesbian attached mostly to "older" queer figures content this blew completely my perception of Jojo. From my internet bubble I could only reach hateful contents about her and this sucked. Im so sorry for Jojo, she needs and deserves LOVE! She is actually so genuine and sweet. Sending love!!

[@to.o2703]

Thank you Shannon for being kind to her. She's just a kid. When I came out as a teenager it was pretty shocking for me to experience just as much bullying from the lgbt "community".

[@tiffanicrenshaw9530]

Lowkey would be cool for Cammie to go on the pod...but other than her we need Renee Rapp FORSURE

[@katen983]

Shannon! As an ex Mormon who is queer I’d LOVE for you to also have a convo with someone who is Mormon or was Mormon and is also queer! Because there’s a lot to go with that! Sex, relationships, how you feel about yourself so many things!

[@clairojean]

CHAPELL ROANNN

[@Ellewoulds33]

Shannon, this episode highlighted your interviewing skills. I worried in the beginning that JoJo wouldn’t break into a vulnerable place, but you got her there. I wish JoJo wouldn’t have worn the glasses because it would have helped build connection and vulnerability with viewers, but I can understand that the glasses might have helped her feel protected and safe. This interview surprised me with how inspirational it ended up being. Great vibes going into Pride Month 🌈

[@TheOfficialLizz]

I watched to give Shan the view however in my personal opinion, this was an unproductive episode and Shan normally asks very good thought provoking questions that creates good conversations . This was a missed opportunity to ask questions that could have really changed the narrative around Jojo coming into young adulthood and how/why she’s looking to change the conversation regarding that, instead it was just a big ego boost . . I understand covering her coming out story but most if not all of the questions were things she discussed on Call Her Daddy or other interviews. Appreciate Shannon trying but just because she’s gay doesn’t mean we need to support what she does when there’s no clear vision. Jojo is an entertainer and knows how to put on a persona(this is not meant to be mean she literally stated this), that’s all she’s really shown. She’s still young so there’s hope for a change I just think Shannon missed the mark on this one.

[@someonesomehow379]

thank u shannon for reminding us to humanize people that are the talk of the town per say bc they become a character to us almost.. this deffo was helpful to broaden one's perspective.. : ) ALSO LOVE THE FRIEND OF DORTHY MERCH!!!!! and I'm proud of u for keeping it up for 25 weeks!! that's AMAZING!!!

[@Loobaloopaloooo]

I feel like the bullying of small children and forcing a disabled child to wear a maxi pad over her tummy button after being forced to get back to work after a surgery is pretty bad though… and I don’t know if people like that deserve to have a huge platform and be millionaires/billionaires

[@Carriehammer718]

And she is friends with colleen

[@Rainbow_Warrior_Princess]

"bullying of small children and forcing a disabled child to wear a maxi pad over her tummy button after being forced to get back to work after a surgery" The alleged bullying of members of her girls group and the incident with the maxi pad was allegedly her mother Jessalynn , not Jojo ! Leah accused her mother Jessalynn - not Jojo - of forcing her to perform with a bleeding belly button, Jojo didn't know of this.

[@louiserottweiler5599]

Manifesting Julien Baker and Lucy Dacus on this podcast

[@Idkchlochlo]

I never thought I’d see the day Shannon publicly supported someone who abused and then silenced a child. I’m genuinely hoping you weren’t informed of the absolutely horrific things she did to those girls, especially Leigha.

[@b_itiswhatitisb514]

Jojo is educated and only 20 still trying to figure out herself. She is a hard worker and has the business knowledge. Let her just live her life!! I really like her confidence. Judging people is so ridiculous.

[@portialyons6096]

I think it’s crazy that a kid, well a young adult experiences so much scrutiny. She’s had to grow up in the public eye so early and she has grown ass adults talking bad about her? I will never understand. Thanks for having her Shannon. It was nice to see her in this environment. She deserves grace as we all do❤

[@sophieblair7466]

she abused children and supports and still collabs with known predators, i think this warrents being talked about no matter how old the person talking abut it is

[@Sammy_T12]

@@sophieblair7466did she literally do the abusing of children? Honest question. Or was she just a part of someone (Abby) who was hired to make a reality TV show and be very out of control with the kids. (Still abusing kids) but the TV show wanted that. How is she a perpetrator? I’m just curious, I obviously don’t know. Thanks ❤😊

[@Sammy_T12]

I also think it’s sad how much hate she gets. Even since she was little. Abby had all the girls write reasons why they dislike JoJo and tell her to her face, when she was like 8. She’s a strong person. That’s all I know.

[@sophieblair7466]

@@Sammy_T12 this is regarding Abby Lee miller. Look up the group jojo and her mum created and then look up the allegations of abuse

[@chuggywap]

@@Sammy_T12 no, this has nothing to do with abby, she made a dance group with her mom where they forced the girls to work way too hard and very strict, which the parents of the girls didn't expect and the highlight of it all was when they forced a girl that was after surgery and was bleeding from her bellybutton to suck it up and put a pad on it to get back to work, just because she has trauma from her own experience doesn't justify in any way her doing the same to other kids, she needs therapy instead of continuing to be in the public eye

[@sarahnoel101]

This one was a hard watch. I love the back and forth banter with the usual guests but Shannon couldn’t hardly get 2 words in with Jojo.

[@TheKatarinaGiselle]

Jojo only loves to hear herself speak.

[@blue-yv9vm]

omg it would be so cool if you could invite RENEE RAPP!!! or KING PRINCESS!!! or memebers of BOYGENIUSSS!!!💗💗

[@twildabuckingham]

"agghhhh I'm savin Emily's life" eesh we have really fucked up this child. We need to protect her at all costs

[@430N_fuxxx]

Lolol i was like wtf, Emily????

[@dgarza3087]

Not surprised… Shannon is too agreeable to call someone out on real issues.

[@Ccombspopstar]

THE TANKINI TO QUEER PIPELINE is the truest thing I’ve heard all week omg 🤯

[@HopeElizabeth]

i understand that she’s MASSIVE at the moment and is getting a lot of attention but this isn’t the move. she has abused children and defends groomers. i also personally think she’s doing a lot of damage to the queer community right now. this made me really sad to see.

[@sxlces]

of all lesbian artists you had to bring her, shan..... sheesh. not only cringey but also controversial. bring soph and avery next time. or renee rapp

[@Cooperyorkie]

She’s a good person. She will be an amazing Mom. Just needs to chill. She’s the same person. I feel.. it’s all mood swings. Why am I here when my yorkie tore his ccl. I love you guys so much.

[@notanotherbotaccount]

Thank you for this podcast! It's so refreshing to see an adult treat her like a human being. I'm not a fan of hers by any means, but all the hate and bullying from literal adults is really sad.

[@alyf.6698]

i think i became more gay seeing shannon with her hair down.... loll

[@BMFL420]

This is truly one of the best JoJo interviews I've seen. It feels like most of the time, people only wanna talk about the previous drama or nonsense she's been involved with, it was nice to see someone want to just genuinely sit down and talk about actual real life as opposed to just drama and pop culture events. JoJo catches a lot of crap and you can call her whatever you want, but she's a flippin boss bitch, and even at 34 years old, I'm mind blown by her success and resilience and strength and ultimately the positivity and representation she brings to the table is phenomenal. Great episode, ladies!

[@SaloYD]

shannon that merch is FIRE

[@3Oh3metrostation]

The shorts and the carabiner! I'm so siked to rep it all

[@chillaxerating]

People dont like JoJo because she's a bully, a toxic partner, and fraternizes with bigoted people among other things. Shannon could host the podcast in a more objective way if she doesnt want her guests to reflect on her, but she makes her personal relationship to each guest clear. And this one is clearly her kissing ass to improve her own career. She needs a publicist to prevent choices like this

[@tgirlpower]

this interview was amazing

[@silence3030]

jojo is the coolest. this episode and this conversation were so fun

[@nathandamon2108]

Love the podcast. First G flip now Jojo, can't explain how much I love them. Thankyou.

[@user-dr6qh5zo6r]

The reminders from Shannon were quite gentle and helpful ❤

[@jaelinmartin6318]

Renee and Chappell. Please 😭

[@MsLLL111]

I had really hoped that Shannon would've been the older queer person who could've been a genuine guide for a clearly misguided person like Jojo. The bullying Jojo receives is definitely sad and more than one person should get but being queer doesn't automatically mean that she's above criticism. I'm sad to see someone as seemingly wise as Shannon ignore Jojo's friendships with predators and her blatant disregard for queer history (especially queer music history). I think this podcast would've been a beautiful, natural place to have a dialogue with Jojo about the importance of truly understanding the community she wants to be embraced by.

[@girlsdanceforever23]

podcast with billie eilish? 👀

[@zoetyyler]

This would break the internet I think. And I am absolutely here for it

[@maddymaiolo171]

Wooww!! Yessss!!

[@flow7er]

I really wanted to watch the whole thing, cause I like Shannon and her questions and the way she speaks but sheeeesh... I can't do it.

[@fansharkstic]

I feel like if I talked to most people one on one I could find a reason to like them and would absolutely understand them better BUT it doesn't change their character and JoJo unfortunately treated her girl group terribly, supports child groomers, and I dunno I can't support someone who harms children even if they themselves are young and learning. Being kind is a great message, but we shouldn't be kind to the point that we ignore abusers and make space for them in the community.

[@annekellett8180]

Shannon enjoy all your work! You also seem to be doing really well right now😊

[@LWalton-x5v]

Congrats to all you do is Shannon another great podcast with Jojo 💗

[@ArtichokeHunter]

oh wow i thought the criticism of jojo siwa was just that she's out of touch and dismissive of the people who have been making queer pop music for decades, but now i'm learning about the abuse allegations, eesh. i listen to some lesbian podcasts that love her so i guess i've gotten a biased view prior to reading the comments (and as an alleged abuser, identifying with michael jackson's struggles publicly... a choice)

[@glocalizedgirl]

Great interview of Jojo 💕🥰 Glad to hear about her Team and her family values 💖💜Such amazing-authentic women!! 🙌🏼

[@gabitaylor1223]

I feel like this was not the move girl. Jojo is friends with predators!! Despite being cringe- which is whatever but girl is literally friends with predators! Shannon…

[@3Oh3metrostation]

This was a really in-depth conversation and I feel like they were able to open up about all things gay. Great hosting!

[@NanceN_12]

Never been a fan of Jojo, but wanted to learn a little more about her, So I listened. Still not “my cup of tea”. Seems child star to adulthood is still something very tricky to navigate. I tend to forget she’s only 20 years old. There’s still a lot growing left to do for her. Hope her journey only gets easier and brighter. Interesting guest Shannon, thanks for sharing. 😉

[@megshogie6123]

I’m wearing my Be Kind t-shirt today!! Yes yes Shannon, thank you. And I, for one, am psyched to be watching JoJo on here. Yay…two gay icons 😊😊

[@Sarah22456]

This made me feel wo sad when she spoke about the bullying. I really hope JoJo shows more of this side of her

[@nvbdnj]

Love you Shannon this is a very interesting episode I enjoyed it❤

[@aleta5873]

JoJo is a very physically strong young woman too.

[@lilyyy45]

Shannon I love you and your podcast however I think a lot of the reason people don’t like JoJo has nothing to do with her being cringe. It has to do with the FACT she supports and is friends with abusers, she has continuously denied victims stories and she herself has partook in abuse of CHILDREN. Shan please just be aware of that none of us are particularly disliking her bc of her in general just certain behaviours. I’d love to be kind but I don’t think abusers and supporters of abuse deserve our kindness in all honesty.

[@NicoleLaurenEsq]

It’s so cool you held a trial and were judge and jury at the same time.

[@Grace-vn5tv]

Shan, it's so amazing how much of a safe space u have created for Jojo. Didn't expect the scenes which made me kinda teary-eyed as I felt so much sincerity. I've never seen her in this kind of light and it's been made possible because of how you did carry the flow of the conversation as the host. Kudos to the both of you! Love u!

[@Scribes68]

Shannon, you are a prolific interviewer. You ask probing questions and listen. You know how to make your guest feel at ease. Thank you to both of you for being out and proud on this platform. If only you were there when I was duscovering myself back in the early 80s. Thanks for the beautiful tribute to Ellen. Jojo, young lady, there will be youth who will look to you and try to find themselves. I know nothing about you, except there will be somebody who needs to see and hear you so they can live their truths. To the haters. Go f*ck yourselves until you have walked in these lady shoes.

[@itsyurik]

Aside for the whole Karma thing I think Jojo is an absolute legend Coming out with a very very young fandom with families they might be conservative or homophobic or both and I feel like she should be more appreciated because of that

[@Ldml6]

Jojo reminds me so much of Kanye..........

[@zjowaaan]

This is gonna blow up your views. Love it already!