Karma vs. Crimsix: Who's the CoD GOAT?

Three world championships or most events won in Call of Duty esports history? The title of world's greatest CoD player of all time is up for debate between OpTic Gaming members Karma and Crimsix - former rivals and current teammates who share arguably the most successful and trophy laden careers in the history of the esport. | Dexerto.com
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[@jerrynguyen7705]

This was on a level of a documentary

[@theshortstopgaming]

Jerry Nguyen my wife literally just said the same thing! 😂😂😂

[@iLLeag7e]

"He easily almost beat us by himself." Aches on Karma

[@AS-yx2xx]

iLLeag7e I rmb Karma averaged a 1.5kd that tournament. GOAT

[@TheHungryTrollRawr]

coming from Aches too THAT is a compliment!

[@Alex-sl5tp]

Karma was cols second choice, there first choice was scump.

[@Jay-go4vw]

@@Alex-sl5tp Col approached Scump in BO2. They wanted Karma in Ghosts.

[@Alex-sl5tp]

@@Jay-go4vw col asked scump at the end of BO2 for the ghost season it was said in a video.

[@dawickerman7634]

Best duo ever to grace cod. How many wins together 20+?

[@daveysweigard]

Waaayyy more

[@scottstreet9327]

Looking at like 60 between them

[@thePastafarian88]

Not quite 60. I think Damon has like 21/22 and Ian has 32.

[@jasonprasad6798]

@@thePastafarian88 33 i think

[@necroxim5029]

@@thePastafarian88 He has 33

[@katatausoficial]

Gotta give TeeP some love too tho, watching scrims you can see how he get their egos in check and contributes with his game knoledge. I imagine he was doing a similar work while playing with Karma and Crim in coL and EG.

[@TheCorvoAttano]

The video was not based around him. The title is literally Karma vs Crimsix

[@katatausoficial]

@@TheCorvoAttano Yeah I know, I'm not saying they should have mentioned, I just think it's nice to bring up that he was also in the dinasty coL/EG and now is working with them in OpTic and have an important role.

[@TheCorvoAttano]

Elektro You are missing the point the video is not about the dynasty it’s about these 2 players

[@BryceRogers_]

I agree. Without TeeP, CoL would have self-destructed

[@TheCorvoAttano]

oWayWard - You guys are missing the point here the video is about Karma vs Crimsix. The video is not about the COMPLEXITY Dynasty. That’s the reason why they don’t mention him like how do you not understand this. I agree with you that teepee was a major factor but the title literally says Karma vs Crimsix

[@kidzero1943]

This video makes me want to play some COD then rage quit after the second game then watch Netflix

[@nelsonj2919]

kidzero1943 sounds about right

[@urmomlol6988]

Mike Fortune it’s a joke lol chill tf out mike

[@shaneoneill7680]

Mike Fortune Not that deep Mike

[@kirazakki308]

All I can say is..Crim got his 2 rings with Karma on his team while Karma earned one w/o Crim (:

[@zadbtn2516]

Kira Zakki Crim won 8 chips without Damon. Damon won 4 without Crim stop.

[@Afonfarch]

This didn’t age well

[@lukesampson8181]

@@Afonfarch true loool

[@warshawgameshd3432]

@@Afonfarch I mean to be fair with the aging thing, crim did kinda get carried.

[@Afonfarch]

@@warshawgameshd3432 yeah lol

[@kia2065]

this is like having messi and ronaldo in the same team

[@SoyelDrips]

Are you comparing 2 guys that play videogames to Messi and Cristiano? Lmao kids these days.

[@FabiSZN]

@@SoyelDrips Yes he's comparing 2 adults playing with a toy ball.

[@Jumper76Anton]

Damon is easily the best decision maker in the game. His shot isn't on the level of Crim or anyone else on his teams usually for that matter. Just his understanding of the game is what's so impressive. His movement is incredible. The only player I genuinely enjoy to watch just cause of what he does around the map rather than getting kills.

[@aydantales9459]

PotatoGod I guess it depends what role he’s playing.

[@flowscs6835]

@@aydantales9459 that brings up something else. The fact that he can play any role.

[@RiledUp19]

That series against NV for the IW champs win was my favourite moment in Competitive Call of Duty. What a truly special moment it was.

[@Bedenskii]

If you actually think about karmas name it’s perfect for him. He reads the other teams plan, remembers what they do, and punish every time, it’s karma 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ParadoxEP]

12:30 Why'd u have to show that clip... Breaks my heart every time.

[@louis6063]

I think about that so often if formal could have just got that 2 piece

[@ParadoxEP]

@@louis6063 i mean we all have watched it. 3arc bullet reg at its finest. shooting upwards only adds to it. looks like the kill should've been his.

[@alfonsoregalado7000]

Optic winning champs in IW was the most memorable moment for me when it comes from an OG Optic fan. I was on my way back from work, been listening and watching all weekend. I put my phone on my dashboard and peeked and listened to it when I could. I literally started crying of joy when it was clear they won. I was relieved and overjoyed that Optic, the team I’ve been rooting for since BO2, finally won champs.

[@bulletsz3738]

I was in the car on my way back home from a vacation in spain. Watched the whole sunday in the car, it cost me a lot of 4G but it was worth it.

[@LukesYT23]

You cried?? Fucking loser lmfaooo

[@dakizm]

@@LukesYT23 fucking bully you're wack

[@lByTriickz]

bro youre not an og optic fan if youre supporting only since bo2

[@alfonsoregalado7000]

byTriickz GT I was a fan of the competitive side of Optic since BO2. But I was a fan of their sniping videos since I got MW2 in 2010 because I wanted to get good with the game. That’s also the time I got into watching KZbin vids

[@TheProtectors510]

dope video man definitely deserves a like a follow just for the time put in.

[@djturner1992]

Without watching the video I can tell you the goat is KARMA

[@maxrothgaber8574]

james turner honestly with cod it’s all about individual preference, so you can never have a clear winner because 50% of the community might agree that the insane amount of overall tourney wins crim has makes him the GOAT, and the other 50% will literally just say that champs is all that matters and Damon’s the GOAT because he has 1 more ring

[@Lawrence-_-]

This was amazing. Great video

[@romanbonifield2404]

Great video 👌

[@ikoalas2529]

HAGGIES CRACK BEST MOMENT EVER

[@estebanchapa606]

This was really well done

[@xflixer4178]

18:39 is the same thing I tell my girl 😂😂

[@wolfsega1336]

Lmao 😂

[@mudasir6738]

I guess we can all agree C6 is the goat now lmao

[@Cheemaclips]

The funny thing is that thumbnail of crim actually looks like him when he gets mad

[@Bedenskii]

Your class presentations must’ve been *lit*

[@xGJHx]

Great video. But why have their eyebrows been edited in the thumbnail haha

[@MazezRealm]

This was a great documentary. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@DadsVSgames]

that was a really good video, ggs

[@eejacobo]

Can lie this little documentary was pretty good

[@AJ-vi4bs]

Really good vid

[@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive]

The order doesn't matter too much but I'd say Karma because of the three rings. Crim's 33 Majors put him in very, VERY close second, make no mistake, they are the Goats of Call of Duty.

[@4gpaa]

Jared Sartain king aches blessed karma cause clayster was being too savage. Fool stayed getting shit on. same with AW until nadeshot decided to bless him by retiring.

[@Mike49503]

Xbox Gamertag: MedShot look what happened to actin last season when he didn’t have Karma and picked up 2 mvps. Couldn’t even make it out of pools lmaoooo

[@wtfdidyousay8957]

@Jared Sartain dumbass

[@johnwayne7985]

Rixma lmao they didn’t win shit with Karma while he was on the team so what’s your point

[@Mike49503]

John Wayne lol did literally had their best placement in ww2 with Karma.

[@callumdowner6805]

Was a good watch👍

[@badrrh2565]

Nice content

[@PRPLXD]

what a video. it definitely a documentary feel to this

[@WoahItsCalvin]

People act like 2 legends can't co-exist, they're both GOATs in their own aspects.

[@muck01]

Same should be said about MJ and Lebron

[@christopherpasigna]

@@muck01 lol kid different situation. MJ and Lebron do not belong in the same sentence.

[@Seraph89_]

Wayne Gretzky and Mario Lemieux

[@Random131_]

Munir Haider What?? LeBron is not on MJ’s level wtf

[@dawsonmaclean2038]

@@christopherpasigna to say that MJ is the best ever is an insult to the sport of basketball. Are you telling me the peak NBA athlete existed in the 1980's? The average NBA player now would be a star player on teams back then, to say that is to say that basketball hasn't evolved since 1980. Frankly LeBron would run circles around MJ, drive through him and slam it in his face without a problem because of the power and speed LeBron would have over him

[@taylordoom6928]

Dope video!!

[@satyam.]

who's here after empire won and c6 now undisputed goat

[@frankiedonegan6150]

At 1:20 Teep and Scump were asked who were their favourite teammates, not whether Karma or Crim was better.

[@brandonrolin57]

Facts

[@parabellum.5769]

No one is going to talk about the real GOAT? OpTic BigT BABY

[@eastjoker94]

Far from the GOAT now

[@maxrothgaber8574]

kingdrosilva94 he’s clearly using sarcasm

[@jozzzy8758]

Karma not only in COD but every game he picks up he's a monster in that game, Crimsix also was a really really good CSGO player, I wish they've mentioned some other games that these are good at beside COD

[@maxrothgaber8574]

JoZzZy yea I’m pretty sure crim even said at one point he was considering switching to pro CS when optic was close to disbanding a few years ago

[@fakeshake234]

They've always been 1a and 1b for me. Their careers speak for themselves. And they do damage in different ways too. Crim's game knowledge and fantastic leadership and Damon's game knowledge, team play, and clutch factor. The only one who comes close to these two is Scump with his raw gunskill talent. Definitely the 3 greatest I've ever seen.

[@Mjot101]

Great video but how in the hell did you get through this without mention teepee

[@tipp4569]

Let’s be honest Prime: Karma is way better than Crim in his prime

[@terryphillip1394]

I disagree. Black ops 2/ ghosts Crimsix was OP

[@joeallen7172]

@@terryphillip1394 karma was a fair bit better than crim at bo2, and crim was a tiny bit better at cod ghosts. Karma was at his prime in bo2 and he was untouchable. He went on a 28 kill streak against one pro team, and he won mvp in most bo2 tournaments that he took part in.

[@ghozt-6708]

Joe Allen the 28-29 killstreak was insane!

[@noelcollins3178]

Solid video ✊🏼

[@travisharnedmusic]

both are insane. i think they both deserve the GOAT status.

[@xpyrah6729]

i watched this video 5 different times and i cried everytime he got to IW

[@sayso6119]

the amount of advertisements in this video is absolutely ridiculous

[@DekeaSaurusRex]

Whoever has three rings

[@MR-GAME-N-WATCH]

Why you use those pics 🤣🤣

[@WizardDoom]

Like GetRight and forest only as a two piece

[@benshaw221]

Could we just imagine a mixture of crim and karma? That thing wouldn’t even need a team, it would 1v5 anyone

[@maxrothgaber8574]

Ben Shaw could very well be Dashy a few years down the road when he’s much more mature. He already has insane accuracy and definitely has the game sense to be able to do a lot of what Karma does around maps

[@comet-4204]

Ben Shaw not against scump though

[@EliteKilla]

Who ever has more World champs

[@jonconnal134]

I’ve been following competitive CoD (thoroughly) since MW2, and I’ve got to say Karma is better. His intelligence and game sense just makes him a natural winner, although I would say Crimsix has a better shot than Karma. They’re teammates, and the two best CoD players of all time, so the margin is tiny. Don’t even bother debating. Just enjoy watching these two steamroll together #GreenWall

[@0xbugati]

the clip of parasites ass crack gets me every time

[@abbasakbar6597]

The clip of Faze winning and Censors 3 piece wasn't 2015 champs where they got 7th, it was a tournament where they got 2nd after losing 2 best of fives in the finals.

[@jonathanmacneil4359]

6:10 Rambo, aint seen him in so long, anyone know what he's doing these days?

[@dominicdeleon527]

Jonathan MacNeil bowling

[@nisaac1216]

pack

[@livinglifetv4798]

The M16 M4 trophy is the best ever cod trophy

[@oXaJeN]

I love optic, but without question Stk/3D/FB in halo/h2 are far and away the strongest dynasty in esports. They were virtually unbeatean from when the main roster was put together until mlg Orlando 2006 when carbon took them down.

[@maxrothgaber8574]

√e√ if we’re talking about diff games now, then you have to say Optic Gears team. They won 17 out of the 19 tournaments that the team was together for

[@Poopio]

No matter how much I love OpTic, that Complexity team will always be the best COD team in COD history in my opinion. Aches is undoubtedly one of the greatest of all time too.

[@maxrothgaber8574]

Poopio I’d put Scump above aches... IMO at least

[@joeallen7172]

@@maxrothgaber8574 nah aches is very underrated. You could even argue that he is the best of all time. I would still say karma is the goat, but aches overall is better than scump. Scump is really good sometimes and other times he's not so good.

[@Gomlmon99]

being gay is not normal How is there even debate about aches being up there for GOAT. If you think otherwise you must be pretty new to CoD.

[@ShiestySZN]

God level documentary

[@mygamecd420]

This team is legendary and anybody who faces them will tell you they r one of the best some tweaks need to happen but I hope they will tweak and not abandon the roster

[@aksaint185]

great videoo! :)

[@noahj456.2]

5 star documentary

[@Jose-me1ll]

Cod is so beautiful 😭🙏🏻

[@trevyn421]

Great video but you should've waiting until fort worth!

[@TheTobe33]

He timed the vid perfectly imo. If he waited any longer, he'd have to cover the whole blops4 season.

[@trevyn421]

@@TheTobe33 good point!

[@jonathonsmith497]

No question about it, karma is the goat, the rings speak for themselves! I do love crim though and if he ever gets level with karma with rings then he will become the goat! For me winning champs is the pinnacle. Obvs just my opinion though

[@bumsuckaduck]

In black ops 2, karma was the best player by a small margin, but crim has consistently been slightly better ever since and also has more championships which is more important than a single champs win more. Both are phenomenal for many different reasons but crim takes it for me.

[@johanavalenzuela8131]

Crim was better on the second part of BO2, Ghost, AW and WWII and Karma was better in the first part of BO2, BO3 and IW

[@bumsuckaduck]

@@johanavalenzuela8131 ya thats a fair analysis. I thought karma was vastly underated especially in IW too with how many clutch plays hed make.

[@Mike49503]

I think you really have to have a good grasp of CoD and not look at just KD numbers and number of Wins. Reason why a lot of pros have Karma as number 1 in their top 10, just watching the minimap and seeing how well karma plays the map is mind blowing every time. It a lot to actually dissect of how nice Karma really is.

[@RetributionGamingHD]

Rixma Karma was better than Crim the entirety of Black Ops 2, then they switched with Crim being the best in Ghosts. Ian wasn’t better than him in IW, BO3 and arguably BO4.

[@TheAlmightyDante]

Karma was way better than any player in bo2. What were you watching? He was the best in ghost as well. Almost beat Col single handed and they had crim. From there karma's slaying power dropped and he didn't put up huge kds but hs a clutch gene to him and an understanding of the GAME, from game modes to positioning and map knowledge, his skills excelled then. He has always been a slayer but his current rosters require him to be more of a role player than a raw slayer. He has younger guns now who do that work and he just comes up clutch when they need it. Crim is great as well but aside from #1 placements a a team doesn't have the individual accolades as karma who was named MVP throughout multiple tourneys. Crim has nothing to hold his head down, as even him, acknowledges karma as the goat. #1 BasedGodKarma (old old user name) and #2 crim, with #3 Aches #4 Clay #5 Jkap. Sorry scump fanboys, your king just isn't on par with Gods. At least he's a top 10 all-time though

[@OGTacGod]

Scump is the GOAT!!

[@TheGamerULoveToHate]

That's false lmao. Karma got the most rings so he's the GOAT

[@adamsmart4929]

Jacob Bill Russell is the goat of the NBA then?

[@TheGamerULoveToHate]

@@adamsmart4929 yes

[@TheGamerULoveToHate]

@@freakthegod2362 I will when you say it to my face

[@freakthegod2362]

@@TheGamerULoveToHate Keyboard warrior at it's best.

[@adamhumphrey8310]

Wins aside, if it's 5-5, championship round, 1v1; and it's Karma or Crim against whoever or each other - especially if the opposing players have an idea where the other is - your money is always going to be on Karma. He'll mentally defeat or bamboozle the other player before it even gets to that surprise 50/50 reaction time type gunfight. He can plan and adapt quicker in the moment better than anyone else who's ever played the game. Not as consistent as Crim definitely. But on his day, open mouthed no comms Karma in the zone, can still make other pros look like rando victims in a pub match. Steps ahead 🐐

[@joshprovance9733]

Look at Optic last year after they dropped Karma...Karma "Three Ring" Barlow is the goat.

[@maxrothgaber8574]

Josh Provance their placings were already explained, it came down to the team composure that WW2 favored as the “norm”. Optic had 2 main ARs and shouldn’t hahe

[@maxrothgaber8574]

Josh Provance but I agree with Karma, because I place slightly more weight in rings than overall tourney wins. It’s individual opinion at the end of the day, they’re both the 2 greatest of all time

[@notorious_3248]

Greatest duo of All time

[@romannavarro1178]

Karma the goat leader Crim the leader and winer

[@alfredoaguilera8976]

They are the best players to ever touch the game. Instead of arguing who's better we should just enjoy watching them play, because the day will come when these two legendary players will retire; and we'll look back and say to ourselves " Holly shit, theres goes Karma and Crim, the GOATs of CoD"

[@wolfsega1336]

I believe crim is the best IGL in CoD and Karma is like a clutch obj/slayer/everything he wants to do anywhere.

[@xmr_mason6453]

What losses is going to come hobestly they have the best team all round

[@mcrangevids568]

Both

[@2guys1gun2]

Can I re upload this?

[@jbake5022]

Annnnd now Crimsix 3 rings and a pitiful 2020 from Karma and Seattle Surge just destroyed your argument for Damon.

[@noahvanooijen6640]

16:05 there is no way col was "More Dominant" the competition was way better in the optic days, and to still be so consistent is insane. Col was just was just way better than everyone else, and had no comp

[@jamaicanwarrenbuffett760]

Do you literally not understand the meaning of Dominant? LOL bro you just perfectly contradicted yourself...If Col was just way better than everyone else that is exactly what dominant means! 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@noahvanooijen6640]

@@jamaicanwarrenbuffett760 maybe i worded it wrong, english isnt my first language after all, i meant to say they were about equally as dominant in their prime, but the competition optic had was better so in comparison id probably say optic was better/more dominant if u get me

[@brandonrolin57]

Damon 3x barlow. I mean the guy has a gun named after him in BO4 you just cant top it. Although crims shot is always crisp

[@R6TissueMe]

Formal.

[@masterger94]

They’re both definitely 1A & 1B.

[@saidkaawar7555]

Scump is

[@MegaMsc123]

Crimsix. No questions needed.

[@mudasir6738]

Why is this even a question? Crim is the shot caller he’s the head of the team everyone listens to, he has more experience and he’s the most winningest player in cod history... don’t compare Karma to Crimsix compare karma to scump

[@brandonrolin57]

Crim is the IGL but watch a scrim when karma says do something they do it. Scump is the captian but they all know the smartest player on the team has 3 rings for a reason

[@mudasir6738]

Brandon Rolin I see what your saying bro but honestly when it comes to skill I gotta give it to Crim over karma

[@uoDucks6]

It's Scump

[@DocYAYAYA]

Karma. He can use every gun and just look at Optic when they dropped him.

[@Kilotango1]

Lol Optic were just terrible with or without Karma in WW2.

[@reignofmo]

Oh shit! Karma is an XO fan.

[@michaelfellner9822]

In my opinion ist Pretty easy: Karma. Why? Because he is so smart, surely the smartest Player in the game. It seems like he Always knows what to do ( also he is the tactic maker for his Teams ). Karma can Play any role in the game. There are no Players who can do that on his Level ( Crimsix for example is Pretty weak in the objective role ). Also, Karma is very good mentaly wise. He Always stays calm, again Crimsix for example gets heated easily to often which not just affects himself but also his Team(mates) badly. Still though, Crimsix is also insane. Another Player i feel like never got enough credits was Teepee, very smart Player aswell. Aches too although many dislike him. Jkap … or who most ppl Forget / dont even know: Rambo. Rambo freakin Ray.

[@seankassner9086]

It really depends on how you define a G.O.A.T.

[@fourwheelerjock]

BUT scumps still the KING. Love all 3 of those guys tho. And can never forget formal...

[@Th3Chuzzl3r]

Almost all the top pros started in halo , not a coincidence if you ask me.

[@idontwantone132]

No shit, halo was probably their first modem shooter lol

[@Th3Chuzzl3r]

@@idontwantone132 lmao the context went right over your head haha

[@jholmenw]

2 rings together makes it tough, but the most rings doesnt mean your a goat. Its still a whole team and a lot of good players that can tske over a game. Crim is probably the most talented and why hes won the most. Karma is a great planner and can out think others. I kinda prefer the overall shooter vs rings. I wonder who wins more 1 v 1?

[@DaYDreaMzDD]

Why is Scump not up there?

[@user-my9lh7ow4m]

It’s gotta be karma, he’s been in every important dynasty and won champs with every dynasty

[@makaveli-1690]

I cant pick between them karma 3rings or crim the winniest player in cod history . Individually both dominate amazing players and together they are leathal . They will be talked about long after they have retired ,they are once in a lifetime players whos achievements and records will not be matched for years to come

[@thefon1605]

Crim is special but it's Karma

[@sd5775]

I always thought dropping Karma was a mistake when they did. And there performance when they did prove it! Although I love Scump, Crimsix, Formal, Nadeshot, all these other great players, Karma is the smartest player and will round out a roster to take you to the next level! No question!

[@jamalderder9078]

Was only a mistake because they couldn't get the player they wanted to replace him, he got blessed by getting dropped cuz optic wouldn't have been much better at the end of ww2 with him

[@gmoe003]

Hows Huskerrs AkA: Huskerrs_RL Aka: Huskerrs_Is_Rl Aka: WAR_Huskerrs and Ons1augh7 doing

[@dnatix9306]

1:47 crimix lmao

[@Intenxsify]

Crimsix in the thumbnail 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@isauced_]

4/5 greatest players ever were all on the same team wtf and all 5 played for optic at one point

[@connorsando5071]

Karma. Next question

[@matthewfortenberry9079]

Connor Sando Okay, BigT or the King?