Is a Realistic Honey Simulation Possible? 🍯

[@matthewjackman8410]

Not getting this video sponsored by Honey was a missed opportunity.

[@full-timelesbian1075]

Well they got some *sweet* deals, wouldn't be surprised.

[@NuclearPopcorn]

I got a honey ad on this video and didn't even notice the connection until I saw this comment.

[@raymond3072]

Matthew Jackman I was the 1000th like lol

[@eatea5415]

That'd be sweet.

[@cricetomannaro000]

*LMAOOOOOOO*

[@jonlampel]

[ 2:04 ] Honey dipper: * does nothing * VFX artists: *YES, THERE WE GO* 🎉🎉

[@TwoMinutePapers]

This one cracked me up bad. 👌

[@culpritdesign]

The irony is hilarious

[@th9667]

@Sriparno Baksi ????????

[@VikalHimanshu]

@Sriparno Baksi WTF

[@kalazakan]

@@th9667 He prob high

[@tofucube7703]

As soon as honey can be realistically animated, the Bee movie might get a remake

[@masterbonzala]

Realistically animated - it already can. Realistically simulated - whole other story

[@pendlera2959]

@@masterbonzala Yup. Animation is to simulation as sculpting is to robotics.

[@epiccollision]

The honey looked fine in the bee movie...

[@n3vin192]

Minecraft BEES

[@ashhshsh]

idek lmao

[@Lugmillord]

"Each time we go to the restaurant you are making an absolute mess!" "I have to! For science!"

[@whatdamath]

glad your videos started to go viral! you deserves those numbers. well done!

[@rynar1586]

Woah I never expected to see you here. I am a great fan of you!

[@vitasartemiev]

Minecraft just added honey and RTX... Coincidence?

[@Huntracony]

Oh god, can you imagine? No circles (except for shadows), some of the worst lighting out there, highly gamey water and lava, but extremely accurate honey simulation.

[@MisterHunterWolf]

@@Huntracony The honey is honeyer than before.

[@deeroverflow]

I think not!

[@Spudcosmiccc]

Ray tracing is a lighting and reflections engine, it doesn't have anything to do with fluid simulation.

[@coreblaster6809]

@@Huntracony the newly introduced rtx makes the lighting good

[@Pursleydallas]

Today on “Why the hell is KZbin recommending this to me?”

[@siniminsterdummyvids1396]

''WHY THE HELL NOT?''

[@Future_Pheonix]

@SpinazFou I've been getting them recommended lately. Why are these videos called "papers"? I'm so confused...

[@jordand.6032]

@@Future_Pheonix they are research papers that the narrator is summarizing to make them less long and more accessible for the audience.

[@Future_Pheonix]

@@jordand.6032 Ah.. I see.. And they're based on these animations?

[@jordand.6032]

LandAhoy yes the animations are what the papers are studying. They are simulations of things like liquid and sand etc

[@LarryWheels]

this made me thirsty

[@joey404]

just drink some choci milk

[@saginsky6941]

Did not expect to see you here brah.

[@RUOOWAO7]

I wanna drink honey

[@pikachu-jf2oh]

You want to drink water or...

[@brahmomento3189]

2:24 He slipped up boys, my mans just confirmed the matrix

[@siyeon170]

youtube recommendations: here's a detailed analysis on computer generated honey me: sure why not

[@christophersahadeo6854]

Love your efforts to keep us informed on super interesting research topics in an very concise and well-articulated manner. Keep it up :)

[@f4614n]

Following up to 0:30 "Are we done with fluid simulation research?" - you can always add electrodynamics into your model if you feel like you achieved everything there is. And if magnetohydrodynamics ceases to be a challenge, add the words quantum or relativistic into the description of your model.

[@chrisray1567]

f4614n I think you meant to say “ceases to be a challenge.” Seize means to take, like seize the day or search and seizure.

[@f4614n]

@@chrisray1567 Thanks - I corrected it.

[@pianojay5146]

this is more than a nightmare... since it is a thing needed to be solved... EEEEEE

[@archivethearchives]

At this rate, there’s a reason numbers are used to calculate interactions on a quantum level more than observational means. Quantum computers can be used to some effect to observe such interactions, but it doesn’t really give us much useful data because we have very little understanding of what we are actually witnessing. It’s definitely groundbreaking, but it’s so out of this world that we are just grabbing at straws sometimes and in awe at many kinds of surprising interactions that completely contradict what our models calculate to be a likely series of events. The quantum world is a nightmare where interactions become increasingly more unpredictable in ways that are baffling as the scale of representation increases. It’s primarily due to the modern model of mathematics not being efficient or tuned well enough to fit such exact things, leaving far too much room for unpreventable error margins in calculation.

[@lucaslucas191202]

I was about to say that they don't even look that realistic. There are plenty of things to be done

[@kupaN9]

2:27 when your simulation is so good you confuse it for reality.

[@KnightsWithoutATable]

I love it when a new simulation technique not only results in more realism, but also is easier to compute. Little things like this is how we keep pushing towards photorealism in computer graphics.

[@Chareidos]

Why am I still waiting for decent fluid-simulation for Unity or Unreal Engine, being implemented as a standard feature? Im waiting for over a decade for a working feature for me simpleton to use!! Its 2019 now... how much do we have to wait? Till 2050?

[@grief6052]

So you’re telling me we have the technology to animate sticky,viscous liquids? Nice

[@tuloski]

In the real footage the dipper was going to fall but they cut the footage :(.

[@sisbrawny]

They had to because it was a threat to national security.

[@mrwensveen]

This made me feel cheated. I think the one-way coupling simulation was actually the most correct, except for the speed and the insane bounciness of the stick on the glass. In my mind (because I don't have a glass of honey with a dipper at hand) the dipper would slightly decelerate again before hitting the glass, but I'm unsure why.

[@idahawk5193]

Maybe because in real life you cant put the dipper in perfectly straight up? In the simulation im assuming it was perfectly straight and thus no falling. In real life the dipper had to have been put in very slightly off-center and gravity can still slowly pull the dipper down.

[@mrwensveen]

@@idahawk5193 In that case the other simulations also would've kept the dipper upright, no matter how volatile the balance. If you can "simulate" an airplane standing on the tip of its nose, the simulation is flawed.

[@CeezGeez]

It’s like the last scene in inception. Did it fall or not?

[@ramdamdam1402]

Could you show the equations they are supposed to simulate ? And which one they actually use

[@culpritdesign]

There are links to the papers. But I think I get what you mean. The papers have pure equations maybe, and the simulations might use a simplified version?

[@jochen_schueller]

@@culpritdesign The topic of the paper IS the simulation which always is based on a simplified version of the exact equations (also called physics/fluid dynamics. The term simplified may be interpreted in two different ways. It has been possible for almost 200 years to compute the exact behavior of fluids with a tiny set of short equations combined with a suitable numeric approximation algorithm using a pen and paper (and a lot of time). The real challenge is to find a different, probably not so easy to understand set of equations that are more efficient to compute and still accurate enough.

[@silverbeach1557]

Honey simulation so accurate I want to drizzle it on my French toast

[@WolfLykaios]

To think there were a bunch of people screaming at their computer: "THIS ISN'T LIKE HONEY!!"

[@justiciar1964]

Xi Jinping secretly among them. ...I could be assassinated for leaking this.

[@pinetree7225]

1:43 he said 🌀o🌀

[@Huntracony]

Okay, fine! I'll play The Witness. The world has bullied me into it.

[@anselmschueler]

How is this related to this video?

[@Huntracony]

@@anselmschueler The end of the video.

[@oulafursson]

but it is very good! you really need to!

[@Huntracony]

@@oulafursson I did. Started to at least. I tried before but stopped pretty quickly. It's a good game, and I'm enjoying it, but I'm not as enthusiastic as most people are.

[@Vitorruy1]

This is a hell of a game. It takes half an hour to one hour of hard thinking for me to solve most puzzles. And they I see peple who got all the clues and finished it in s day and feel bad...

[@gaussdog]

The initial simulated honey looks like the temperature is just warmer than other simulations or the “real life” used in the video... 🍯 🍯 🐝 🐝 🐝 💧 💻 🧮

[@PresidentialWinner]

Another factor that determines the honey viscosity is its temperature. As temperature increases, viscosity falls, due to less molecular friction and reduced hydrodynamic forces.

[@AtlasReburdened]

What? Honey does not roll up in weird gelatinous clumps when you twist the dipper.

[@DannyWilliamH]

Those early sums look more like jell-o than honey

[@cammro]

yesterday i was thinking about a thing teaching how to program buoyancy, and how every time a kid puts a paper boat on water, there's so much shit going on that they and i dont understand . like people joke about the "magnets how do they work" but like small particle physics is insane. world is crazy. cool video dude

[@SkobelNOR]

Absolutely nobody: My youtube recomendations at 3am: "Is a Realistic Honey Simulation Possible?" thx youtube

[@biscuitburger725]

I can’t even begin to imagine how this is possible. I’m 56 years old, and am glad I live in a time where crazy things like this exist

[@galaxycoffee_]

Oh ....This isn’t a minecraft Bee update video

[@fluorescentblack4336]

this is so mundane at face value and so intensly mind blowing

[@yahyarisqi7879]

Literally no one: KZbin : Here's some Honey simulation for you

[@nelsonraley]

Dude. I was already super interested watching this vid, but then you mentioned The Witness???? I was SO hyped.

[@ste7081]

If I remember correctly we don't even have an exact equation to predict all four stages of honey drop, let alone simulate it

[@chunkiyeung9499]

Viscosity is a function of strain and strain rate. The creeping with constant load of a fluid that have fast response to deformation is hard to mimic.

[@petelovagssecondaccount5291]

I like how we speak the same language (hungarian), but Im still watching this video in english.

[@6six9nine74]

🇭🇺

[@Goobermxh]

Me pretending I know this: *ah yes two way simulation yes*

[@AtlasReburdened]

But we didn't actually see much of the physics from the dipper just standing upright.

[@Lyttii_]

It's 4.11 and I have watched a lighter restoration video, chinese cooking video, a game boy restoration video, netherite beacon math video, anime girl noises video, a man building a cathedral, desktop goose and a honey simulation video. Night well spent.

[@richardhead8264]

_Honey, I dropped the honey!_

[@emeralddragon1144]

The strong two-way coupling is missing the distortion of surface tension of the bottom rim of the glass seen behind the tool. it looks like it's frozen in place instead of being held there.

[@theplantbit2441]

I don’t know why I find this is so interesting.

[@tata313155]

Just thinking about how long it took to render this makes me feel sick

[@yellowblanka6058]

I'm sure it was running on a powerful workstation(s), but yeah, even so, it likely took some time.

[@bbcroc]

A couple years ago, we we’re amazed by cod’s “realistic fish simulation” and now we have this, by 2025 video games are going to look better than real life lol

[@xkeepersvk]

There is something wrong with the first simulation. Surface has not enough friction?

[@TheLemonMasterYT]

Make the lanier flow more solid and make it more viscous

[@marshmallowmountains4636]

I don't actually understand what you're talking about with new ways of things and coupling but this is still cool.

[@palebears8913]

I like how he actually matched the table cloth pattern lol starting from 3:05

[@Nitekom]

the first try of realistic honey looked like jell-o

[@cambrown5633]

Actually we already have this in the new MineCraft snapshot...

[@silvererain]

Remember in game Soma, where in Theta underground lab you see the simulation for the virtual world and it costs like several hundred terabytes. It'll come to that

[@watermelonfelon2777]

I feel like they should allow the honey whisk slowly sink in

[@TheNamesSnek]

but that would just be inaccurate and unrealistic then

[@watermelonfelon2777]

You have honey whisker and jar of honey?

[@TheNamesSnek]

@@watermelonfelon2777 no, but the person that made the video did. did you not watch the whole video?

[@watermelonfelon2777]

Yes, I see that but I feel like the whisk should slowly sink in. Wondering if it's different depending on the honey. Edit: I have less dense honey anything can push through it except for things like crackers. But a wooden spoon can go through it just fine but maybe it's because of pressure instead of dropping it. Idk I don't test this weird type of science

[@TheNamesSnek]

@@watermelonfelon2777 it's most likely because the flat surfaces on the whisk are giving it buoyancy

[@vladimirputin2987]

Makes a compelling case for simulation hypothesis.

[@AngelLestat2]

the only papers you review lately are the ones related to 3d render techniques. What about all the other applications of neural networks???

[@officialniknak]

that's because this is his actual field of research, so he's most in tune with what's going on there

[@AngelLestat2]

​@@officialniknak I know that this is his field, but I dont want to see the same fluid simulation issue with tiny improvements 20 times. I would have to search another channel to keep me updated in the IA field.

[@unintentionallydramatic]

Other issues aside? It's a _video_ channel. 😝

[@thegamefiddler4454]

I'm right here babies and I'm all honey, no need to simulate it.

[@torneycarblos9140]

Narrator: Let me sound like lord Farquaad

[@jeffwang6460]

Another issue is that honey tends to accumulate in different patterns based on the height it is falling from, with even slight differences creating drastically different patterns.

[@mattakudesu]

That robot hand was...unsettling

[@schwarzmond8016]

This dude sounds like the end of “if English were phonetically consistent”

[@auroshreemallik3857]

We'll meet in 5 years when this gets recommended into everybody's feed again.

[@ГригорийХовер]

I understand nothing. But I'm make my way to.

[@OmnisHomoSubUnoDraconeDivisus]

maybe air bubbles inside the more viscous fluids could make some kind of a difference? idk I could be reaching here but it seems like with physics simulations any small difference can play a large role in the finished product.

[@penchimerical]

I would have liked to see how the simulation worked if you dipped the dipper and twirled it around a little.

[@nothing5819]

You just earned a subscriber, i love you!

[@thebadger4040]

The real honey you used for comparison looks old, while the honey in the simulation looks very fresh. This changes how fluid the honey is, so I would say you should heat up the real sample you have in microwave and then make the comparison again for a more accurate result.

[@OlleForsberg]

I find it reassuring that there are people out there working on this kind of stuff so I don't have to learn it, cause I couldn't if my life depended on it.

[@MaeveWumbo]

Just from observing the simulations in your videos, and compared to the real life videos, it seems that lack of surface tension is a major contributing factor to the discrepancies between simulation and real life. I noticed although you showed the thing sticking in the honey, you didnt bother comparing it to how honey dripped at all. So I assume by giving it the properties to make the thing stand up, you sacrificed some of the kinetic properties that honey has. (Maybe it kept those properties and just had another reason for not showing them idk) In real life what allows honey to flow as well as hold up a stick is somewhat in part to its surface tension. I also observed in the smoothie martini thing, when it overflowed and spilled off the sides, it more or less went straight down in the simulation, where in the real life example it stuck to the surface of the glass despite it being such a steep angle. Which is also in part to surface tension. You never mentioned adjusting any values such as surface tension or capillary force. So I wonder is there any calculations you are doing on these 2 dimensional boundaries (liquid to solid, solid to air) other than just friction and stickyness? And if you're not, are there plans to create separate calculates for surface tension in the future?

[@jayanthveeru1000]

Yes, even I observed this with simulation and real life. You've explained the problem more accurately than I could've.

[@vojtechbrezik2998]

This video in my recommendations was a surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.

[@jojomj]

Nobody: Two Minute Papers: *"Prah*-grams"

[@0xC47P1C3]

I love how this man really appreciates what’s going on in these simulations. And I feel like everyone else who is a pc gamer can also appreciate it just as much!

[@yamatoclassmusashi8830]

Nobody: KZbin: *H O N E Y*

[@robertlong6311]

Don't you just love how we are using reality as a template to create the rest of the possible realities using our laws from our universe?. The metaverse is getting bigger and bigger each day for sure. Thanks for the video that blew me away. I was not aware you could get that type of response with fluids in sims yet.

[@tellah8037]

that honey seemed to be a lot warmer then the honey you had.

[@TheGuyThatsNotFunny]

First, the bees is breaking all laws of science because their wings are too small. Now it's the honey that it's hard to simulate.

[@bishhsasspusi2904]

1:43 the way he says "WOAH" i danced to it

[@bishhsasspusi2904]

mommy look at me i am killin it

[@BonanzaPilot]

I don't understand any of this, but I'm glad there are people that do

[@Techischannel]

Well you can clearly see that the fluid thingy shown in the beginning does not move in realtime, based on how its about 20% slower.

[@wooof.]

Don't know why this was recommended but I'm into it

[@Faby07aleixo]

This is super interesting, but idk what the hell am I doing here

[@TheVergile]

ive developed an even more efficient method that enables the honey to support the dipper. It even scales linearily with rendering complexity. i call it “screenshot”

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

The first honey dipper run seems to much like jelly. The way the dipper bounces and the honey breaks

[@alfianfahmi5430]

This problem reminds me of any kind of iteration and transformation (kinda like Fourier, Jacobian, and Gauss-Seidel shits). Idk, maybe it's obvious that a half-assed work can easily leave a lot of errors.

[@ratmilk671]

I don't understand so much of this video but very cool

[@alvin4100]

Imagine if we have the computing power to simulate the real world from big bang to the first life on earth

[@hattrickster33]

The guy's last name in the paper is Takahashi, just like chef robot in Fallout 4 in Diamond City.

[@mawizard6341]

I enjoy watching your experiments. Please keep it up!

[@ZeroTwo-gd5nq]

Minecraft's new honey block will have highly realistic physics

[@mrwang420]

just calculate the weight of the honey dipper, then tag it for motion capture, and recod what happens. Then you'll get the math.

[@Bananaman74799]

This is where I find myself at 2am

[@SeraStaplz]

Is air being treated as a fluid in these simulations as well? It seems in the last example, the yogurt, that it's behavior is that in a vacuum. Atmospheric pressure would contribute to pushing the yogurt against the martini glass, along with surface tension, which I assume WAS being simulated.

[@そら-o4b]

Supercomputer will make it possible.

[@hunterkogelman3558]

0:55 a guitar is briefly formed in the sand

[@bigsmoke9935]

We just need the computational power to compute things at the molecular level

[@zachb1706]

I doubt even the supercomputer I believe China built could handle that

[@bigsmoke9935]

Zach B no but in the far future

[@zachb1706]

Maybe. Depends on how small we can make the CPU’s and GPU’s, and how cheap we can develop RAM.

[@aa01blue38]

I finally realized whats so weird with the real honey... the glass is the exact same as the one i own

[@W.H.V.]

Me: Mom, can we get realistic two-way coupling? Mom: We have liquid simulations at home. Liquid simulations at home: 1:51

[@jeremywong4235]

1985: we will have flying cars in the future! 2019: honey simulator that supports the dipper which is obviously better than flying cars

[@MLWJ1993]

Flying cars would be good, if they wouldn't immediately add flying traffic lights as well... 😑

[@denisuya]

Somehow, it's way better than some "ASMR" or "Satisfying" titled videos

[@phakees5139]

Minecraft Honey is very nice animated :) the best animation of honey in history

[@MelkromisteinWeeb]

I first thought that this is a video about industrial made honey without bees.

[@markstevenson4030]

This is so god damn satisfying and incredibly mindblowing to watch. Dude

[@balint6873]

jó látni, hogy magyar is készít ilyen videókat.

[@breadsotrue]

lmao why did i think this was about creating honey without taking some from the bees

[@ttmfinland_yt]

Just imagine that one day we might just be able to have real time fluid simulations like that in video games. Finally the coffee in a cup is not just a texture and same goes for the water and dirt in small puddles. Of course this will probably not happen in the near future but let's be hopeful