Kashmir: The Truth About the State and its Status, Article 370, by Prof Srinath Raghavan

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[@kvishnup]

All political parties always present their own versions of truth and that is why it is so important to have such eye-opening talks and debates in a democracy because we need someone to present the truth as is. Great talk!

[@shekharnair7268]

In order to clear confusion in minds of peaceloving people in a state so that they are able to take a correct decision on matters of concern for themselves no pressure tactics or force etc must be there in front of them; religious pressure is one such danger? My understanding is that BY AND LARGE, the people in Kashmir were very cordial peaceloving and friendly to everybody! Another major fact is Islam itself was borne just about 1000 years back and it was by brute force that their religion was forced upon the innocent people wherever they spread to? Therefore the original nature of all in Kashmir were total peaceful and loving? If subsequent they were converted as terrorists, it was definitely by foreigners? Over all points one must give priority to peaceful living of people and Not blind belief forced on them?

[@iam.Ravi24]

Article 370 in Kashmir is now history. Now to move forward

[@madniv786]

People who are affected are bearing brunt of it, for them pain and impact isn't history, its present

[@Stern5495]

For every kashmiri, it's forever ♾️

[@rohanindra6401]

@@madniv786 are you suggesting India let Kashmir join Pakistan?

[@ytubeguruji863]

​@madniv786 can you shread some more light on the same, I want to understand it.

[@ytubeguruji863]

​@@Stern5495also its not just for J&K, it is applied towards NE India and a lot of states across India as well.

[@ashfaqhamdani2953]

Perhaps for the first' time, after many many years, a person is talking sense, in a large forum and that too without any interruption.

[@anshuraj4277]

Well... Yeah... Removing autonomy is important for India and it's strategic interest

[@AzharKaz]

One of the best and clear exposition of the Kashmir issue backed by just facts and hard facts

[@Human-xz2gr]

No use of all these discussions. Things change as a country moves forward. Now there is no reason for any special provision for J&K. The state should be governed in the same way as other states of Republic of India. He is talking about a situation where India gained independence but was not yet a Republic. Now India must be governed under a common Constitution and no attempt to dilute its Republic status should be encouraged. If old deeds are examined the worst act was invoking religion by Muslim league under Jinnah to divide India.

[@jjayasheela1]

We seem to have messed up at various times past and present. It is time to calmly assess from every possible angle and take a decision which will restore peace and stability. Force will never succeed, peoples voice has to be heard and then a decision taken. Sometimes acceptance of wrong decisions then taking corrective measures is the only solution to such a tangled problem

[@Vimrati]

Why are you not talking about Kashmir Govt helping terrorists?

[@mrsheikh56]

It is because of the state politicians, Kashmir is still with India.

[@balajisankarkonakalla3369]

@@mrsheikh56 So... They can help terrorism?

[@user-cn2lk7vy5s]

Peace and stability is the only ultimate solution for growth in all aspects for everyone and also both sides

[@MrFarooqMAbbas]

The recent judgement of the Supreme Court on article 370, chose to ignore the above facts. Most Unfortunate!

[@abhisheklakhotra8819]

Great presentation. After listening to some expert I still had doubts and queries about the issue. I am from jammu and kashmir and my two cents are that interpretation of “with the approval of constituent assembly of j and k” is where it all lies: 1.Since SC saying that no Cons assembly means go ahead and modify 2.while framing j and k constitution(and knowing very well that const. Assembly will be dissolved) putting such a clause can only means that ‘Do not modify’

[@user-wg8by8wx2b]

Now today i. e 11-12-2023 the Supreme Court has delivered a beautiful Judgement ..All the earlier Talks and Opinions may just be Ignored and get into present day Development Activities instead of Wasting our Precious Time

[@sureshdharmaraj76]

Well said.

[@bhatummar3526]

What kind of development bro uh dont know on 11_12_2023 whole kashmir was under strict curfew because we cant speak here in Kashmir we dont have any right its just dictator modi who is soo blind in power and nullified article 370 its unconstitutional and hope you understand diffrence between freedom and oppression

[@Javid_Paray-PJ]

Sheikh was dismissed as PM not as CM

[@rajatmahi4801]

Incredible insights on Jammu and Kashmir with respect to Article 370.Thanks Sir for this priceless Talk on such Sensitive Topic..#Jai Hind🙏🏻

[@luminous6810]

Very knowledgeable and interesting talk i loved it ❤ many things have been cleared 👌 about article 370.

[@Human-xz2gr]

No use of all these discussions. Things change as a country moves forward. Now there is no reason for any special provision for J&K. The state should be governed in the same way as other states of Republic of India. He is talking about a situation where India gained independence but was not yet a Republic. Now India must be governed under a common Constitution and no attempt to dilute its Republic status should be encouraged. If old deeds are examined the worst act was invoking religion by Muslim league under Jinnah to divide India.

[@venkateswaratilesbayyaram1695]

"DHARMO RAKSHITE RAKSHITAHA" AS LONG AS WE PROTECT DHARMA IN TURN IT PROTECT US A QUESTION OF RETROSPECTION JAI HIND

[@Akash-z]

Very well explained ! Thank you Sir 🌹🌹🌹

[@ssk166]

Today supreme court has closed the issue of article 370

[@yoganandasarma7771]

Exiting and good explanation of the history and violations of 370 article and KASMIR relevance.THIS explanation shows to the world that extending indian constution to a borderstate that has been in political fluidity since independence has legal sanction and even the prudence of judgement can be debated .This is the beauty of Indian democracy .My doubt is why the historian did not dwell on the recent history on terrorism and migration of Kashmiri pundits from human rights point of view.

[@satishkumar77]

wow , what a great presentation with clarity and concise . also his voice is so good that it resonates in mind ...

[@sundareshanal1849]

The wise bench of SC has clarified the issues. And rested most of the points. Kashmir was never an internal issue. It was an imperial post colonial project and served to keep India in check and preoccupied for eternity. Sheikh Abdilla rejected Jinnah and Pakistan from the word go but was shrewd enough to see the traction Kashmir as a project would receive from geo political players in perpetuity. The minuscule set of rulers of Kashmir kept the pot in a manageable state of boil working with all stakeholders for decades. And playing each of them. It was a profitable enterprise for myriad players. A problem that would never be allowed to be solved. In any case the legitimacy of the genuine aspirations of Kashmiris was seriously compromised by these two families way back in history , who lorded over one of the most corrupt and venal regimes South Asia as a whole has known. The average Kashmiri will take time grasp this end of a long chapter in their history and wait to catch back a semblance of dignity after having fought the so called oppression of the Indian state for so long. The average Kashmiri is the victim. Will the political process restart ? Difficult to predict. But the puppet masters are degraded now and hence there is a huge chance we will succeed. May be in 5 years or more. In the meanwhile these intellectuals can talk around in tired, generic, rhetoric knowing fully well they have no skin in the game. There is a new but slow chapter opening. The aydible wailing can end. The Indian state won over democratically every state in the north east. Kashmiris should realize the Indian democracy is their real destination.

[@Usernew54]

From my perspective Kashmiri people will never accept Indian democracy whole heartedly first because of the majority of Muslims and 2nd the view of Kashmiri people regarding Indian Army has always put India on a back foot they didn’t consider them as there protectors but as a force who stop there freedom Freedom of moving freely, freedom of speaking in front of them freedom of enjoying at your will Even if you have to go for trekking you have to get a permission and if you didn’t have got the one you will not be put forth in front of judge but you will be slapped and kicked for breaking a simple rule ( even if you didn’t know about the rule )and also this goes for Indian Army as well as they didn’t seem polite enough when they talk with them 3rd is the loses of lives civilian lives that haunt them everyday Almost every village has at least one person who has lost his life in this conflict some people are carrying pellet injuries with them etc. 4th the Acts that have been slapped on young people there educational career have been set on fire . All these things leave a mark on hearts and minds, no one is going to forget these things Now the another law is if they find any militant in any family and they caught him there there whole property is being ceiled and for the family they can’t do anything someone came to your home they take your phone and in the morning encounter happens your property gets ceised and you are awarded with PSA you can’t say anything on social media you can’t even comment your thoughts your liberty is snatched. Indians have to change not the policies then may some thing good will happen otherwise the conflict will get under rubble for sometime and after sometime it will rise again

[@musawerwani5063]

The funniest thing being that they come up with a rule and then break it themselves, and then they discuss both scenarios to justify what they did and what was wrong! 😅

[@user-rg7jt4xp9y]

Great guy. Good books. The speaker is a recipient of K. Subrahmanyam Award for Strategic Studies in 2011, constituted in the name of the father of External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar. Previously, we had people like Srinath Raghavan as members on the National Security Advisory Board. Now, we have someone like Tilak Devasher, for instance. How times have changed! This is an old lecture, as you can see. The Wire is in denial mode!?

[@user-rg7jt4xp9y]

We have peace, we have investments - is one argument that's made now. How far is this true? Are the Saudis and the Emiratis poring in money?

[@Akash-z]

Gulf countries are benamis for the Indian industrialists, politicians to insure the investment.

[@avnishpanwar9502]

S jaishankar father of EA?? Tum 2014 ke baad wale hi ho kya?

[@user-rg7jt4xp9y]

@@avnishpanwar9502 The Speaker in this video is Srinath Raghavan.

[@user-rg7jt4xp9y]

@@avnishpanwar9502 Srinath Raghavan is the recipient of a particular award.

[@KeshavaMP]

This talk is delivered in 2019. Enough to make it irrelevant. See interviews of former arch opponents of 370 Abrogation - Shah Faesal and Shehla Rashid, to get a fair assessment

[@kamalnshradha728]

You very easily decided what temporary was .. it's just your interpretation of it..

[@debashisganguly4738]

Yes, on this point, the speaker showed a distinct preconceived bias. Besides his argument with Article 370 vis-a-vis 371 was also fraught with superficiality. But, on the whole, he presented a well-balanced insight with data points. In that respect, it was commendable.

[@audreychen5363]

I agree with him on most of the parts except that he is confused between the union of India which was formed in 1947 but it was later changed to the republic of India in 1951 through the new constitution. States had a lot of power during the union of India rule and time but the centre has a lot of power since the promulgation of the republic of India. The way the centre dissolved the statehood of JNK was likely incorrect, however, under constitution of republic of India the president can dissolve any state any time and can even dissolve a parliament or an elected state govt or centre govt if needed to protect the integrity of India. Even at that time of dissolution of the statehood of JNK, BJP could have pushed the president to dissolve it directly citing the safety and integrity of India however, they played on the governor (who is the representative of the president anyway). Most likely the BJP didn’t want the President to be directly pulled in it.

[@kumarakantirava429]

👍👍

[@fawadmajeed7548]

Brother, whatever is mentioned in the constitution, the Parliament is free to do whatever they want with it, unless it changes the basic structure. Whatever the BJP did to Article 370 wasn't out of love for the country, integrity, or anything like that; it was just a communal move against the will of the people of Jammu and Kashmir, aimed at pleasing blind devotees who don’t know the ABCs of India. Just tell me one thing: we Muslims make up 70% of the population in Jammu and Kashmir, so why does the BJP's central leadership want a Hindu CM here? Try to understand the tactics. Jammu has a population of 53L, and Kashmir is 69L, but when the delimitation commission announces new seats, Jammu gets 6, and Kashmir gets 1, making it 46:47 in total. What do you have to say about it? Isn’t it again a communal move? We don’t want Article 370; we know how to save our identity. The state belongs to Dogras and Kashmiris, and we will safeguard our identity with our lives. Two Gujju boys shouldn’t decide our future.

[@mrsheikh56]

​@@fawadmajeed7548bihar na chi smjan boiya

[@shambhusnair91]

@@fawadmajeed7548 dogras, Kashmiris, and not to forget the Ladakhis

[@audreychen5363]

@@fawadmajeed7548 do you mean to say that Bihari, Punjabi, Gujrati, Bengali, keralite, AP etc don’t have any identity because they don’t have article 370??? Also delimitation should ideally cover before each election but is done quite late India. The delimitation allows lower or increase the parliamentary seats in an area according the population growth or reduction in that area. I leave that to the election commission.

[@anilnarang4243]

Very informative. I wish he had also appended the references mentioned in the talk for everyone to read if they desired. But still a great talk.

[@josephds6071]

Clear and excellent unbiased presentation. Great Sir.

[@pranavsingh8344]

Thanks for this!

[@maqsoodqureishi9892]

This speech was available before the recent judgement on article 370. Sir it seems this is also one addition to Justice Lokur, Justice Rohinton & Mr. Fali Nariman points of view

[@inderjeetsinghkunner8290]

It was too good... thanks for more insight into article 370.. by an historians research... 👍👍👍

[@Straightforwardpk]

1:- Plebiscite in kpk & wp before junagadh 2:- hyderabad & kashmir exchange policy 3:- 19:58 other constituent assemblies 4 23:56 dogras & the rise of sheikh 5:- 33:43 the end

[@thetruthformankind9377]

V grt talk, absolutely correct historical background of Kashmir and 370

[@uditjain9987]

I think government took the right decision by abrogating 370 now we can buy land rheir we can set up our dactory also recently uae company sign mou to build a mall in kashmir

[@sunilkumarsingh-xc6wr]

Excellent 👌👌👏👏👏👍👍

[@-iG-px1ij]

& this proves that "the history belongs to me "

[@sridharneelakanta]

It will be interesting to go back to the Professor and ask him to view his speech now and ask him what he thinks. He also seems to think that the entire insurgency happened as an effect of diluting Article 370. As a historian he should have examined the effect of Pak losing the 1965 & 1971 wars vis-a-vis the so called Article 370 dilution as reasons for the increased insurgency. He didn't. And as a QED from his talk, if the Govt of India had sat down with the list of dilutions from 1952 till 2018-19 and reversed all the dilutions then Kashmir would have returned to normalcy!! Well, I would like to believe that argument......only that I am not able to.

[@psarathy66]

i donot expect anything better than this from guha contemporary

[@debkumarroy8201]

Supreme court is going to give it's verdict on the legality of abrogation of article 370 tomorrow. But pdp leader mehabooba mufti said the supreme Court should not take forward bjp's agenda . Shouldn't the top court initiate contempt of court proceedings against this terrorist sympathiser?

[@malikzain7146]

For ur kind information he was not ruller at that time he was appointed by Britishers as a caretaker. No doubt U r the student of history. But I am part of that history which u have read.. #Save kashmir# save palistine..

[@chandanaputta3020]

What ever NRC , abolish 370 was great decision by bjp

[@nishanenterprise1911]

Always there is deal. Like in earlier case Babri Masjid Supreme Court Bench were lured with lucrative posts pro retirement. Like now on decision on Article 370 and 35 A, the present CJ lost credibility as per analysis of some Supreme Court Retd Judges. It means soon as he retired, lucrative adjustment awaits this bench of Judges.

[@sanjaykulkarni3533]

Most people seem to place the three Princely states on the same footing. Did Junagadh sign the Instrument of Accession ? Did Hyderabad sign the Instrument of Accession? Did Travancore sign the Instrument of Accession. Yes. Did The Princely State of J& K sign the Instrument of Accession. Yes. Did the Govt of India help the Maharaja after signing, did the Maharaja sign it with any riders , definitely NO, all the other Princely States who acceded also signed the same Instrument of Accession. Hyderabad was annexed, in Junagarh Plebiscite was held and amalgamated with the Union of India. Had the accession of J&K coming from Maharaja who alone could sign it, signed on 26 October 1947, not Mountbatten or Sheikh Abdullah, if they had no right to Sign what right did they have to suggest, how the state will accede or merge with the Union of India. What had Jinnah to say who had signed the Standstill agreement with the Maharaja, why did Jinnah not negotiate with Mountbatten or Sheikh, if they were so powerful. You don't defend some false argument with the help of either the Constitution or otherwise. The Constitution of India came into force on 26 Jan 1950 that of J&K because of Article 370 in 1957. The Very Foundation of the argument is based on false narrative. God bless

[@ravikumark3133]

Wow.. great details

[@kool_ninja5661]

He totally missed the part where Farooq Abdullah started appeasing !slamist & the main reason his fell out with Indira Gandhi..

[@HumanBeing-jj3mc]

This is such a utopian talk, not even talking about the Pakistan and China challenge, and terrorism. It's all about things on paper, rather than ground realities of Kashmir.

[@mohdaleem8572]

Hyderabad that time was richest state in india i.e bharat 🇮🇳,❤ from the Hyderabad Telangana INDIA n BHARAT 🇮🇳 for this talk

[@debashisganguly4738]

Great insight backed with real data and some theoretically sound arguments. It is balanced and devoid of any political leaning. Some arguments sounded weak of course (especially the logic of article 370 against 371 - states enjoying 371 do not have a history of bloody violence as witnessed by the Muslim-dominated Kashmir). But the atmosphere and the response from the audience are amusing. There were wholehearted clappings whenever an argument went against the present BPJ government functionaries and yet presented a stoic silence when the argument or data, questioned the past governments from Congress. This partisanship does not auger well for the future of India and its aspiration to become a powerful nation-state. Those who dream of asymmetric existence with equal claim over fruits of development need to smell the coffee. America didn't achieve its status by remaining asymmetric but it rather achieved that by embracing the Washington doctrine. The restricted number of likes amid the significant viewership of the video captures the predicament of the opponents of the incumbent government at the center...

[@tarzan40005]

Extremely well spoken.

[@FreddieMurphy746]

Mathan is a very core Left ideology that promotes Islamic fundamentalism...

[@David-js4ib]

Left and Islam? What?

[@FreddieMurphy746]

@@David-js4ib I was part of Manthan Hyderabad. I Used to be their FB group's active conversation starter. However, their narrative and behavior pattern clearly indicate that they like promoting fundamentalism...

[@Human-xz2gr]

@@David-js4ibthe communists have cleverly ganged up with Muslims to try to bolster themselves up in India. The Muslims finding no leadership of its own is piggyback riding on them.

[@vaibhavyadav9912]

@@David-js4ib how's that a shocker? Aren't you aware how the two compliment each other? How the left provides intellectual cover fire for Islamists?

[@vivnair9510]

Correctly said

[@dr.batman2530]

Who is here after the Supreme Court verdict? 😂

[@user-cn2lk7vy5s]

As per him, center can take any action even by improper conducting parliament by cutting television and closing doors in case of divisionof AP.

[@RA-nn8pc]

👍💯

[@shantanusapru]

This guy is frikkin' brilliant!! And for this, he will be targeted next by the Bha-Ja-Pa!

[@priyankasawant7943]

Great talk 🗣️!

[@sanjaygadhalay1523]

Very insightful

[@Human-xz2gr]

No use of all these discussions. Things change as a country moves forward. Now there is no reason for any special provision for J&K. The state should be governed in the same way as other states of Republic of India. He is talking about a situation where India gained independence but was not yet a Republic. Now India must be governed under a common Constitution and no attempt to dilute its Republic status should be encouraged. If old deeds are examined the worst act was invoking religion by Muslim league under Jinnah to divide India.

[@aaaaaaa1527]

Free jonagrah, free kashmir 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

[@gsarshi5210]

Great talk very informative Learning is pleasure

[@ramaswamyranganathan1270]

India needs to be soccer team of 22 players. One set for the opponents and another set to defend against those who are experts in scoring same-side goals. Though they may not be experts in Indian Constitution.

[@devkaranmeena5036]

These commentators deal with an issue from academic standards and are proved wrong , the issues are different and Modi has identified it correctly and addressed appropriately.

[@Oceansta]

Outstanding lecture

[@aurangzebansari3007]

Eye opener speech ❤

[@ganeshdore]

Prof Raghavan speaks well. The state assembly until 2017 gave direct political cover to Separatists. and Hindu exodus continued unabated. And separatists also got logistical support and funding from Pakistan. Also infiltration of Muslims from Pakistan continued out of control... Thus the steps to create UTs had to be done. Starting in 2019 ..... Ladakh gets to breathe as a UT., Pakistan interference is decreasing and a broke Pakistan has no funds left for adventurism in Kashmir. Lets hope Jammu gets to breathe by 2026 ..escape from the clutches of the valley Valley will be the last see peace and stability . Prof Raghavan offers no alternate path forward...for Kashmir. Thus I suggest he accept what Amit Shah has done. I am not in favor of too much state autonomy.... also known as Federalism. Its a recipe for Chaos. Dr Bhimrao should have known better. He let the Genie out of the Lamp. Jai Hind.

[@Human-xz2gr]

No use of all these discussions. Things change as a country moves forward. Now there is no reason for any special provision for J&K. The state should be governed in the same way as other states of Republic of India. He is talking about a situation where India gained independence but was not yet a Republic. Now India must be governed under a common Constitution and no attempt to dilute its Republic status should be encouraged. If old deeds are examined the worst act was invoking religion by Muslim league under Jinnah to divide India.

[@akshaymalik5334]

Wow.

[@babyuzair604]

True history

[@shafimogral4127]

Very informative speech

[@bhavanishankar2052]

It was a requirement of the day for Sardar Vallabha bi patel to introduce Article 370 as a temporary measure. It is not relevant here who introduced. Why it is not abrogated for so many years is a discussion point. Speaker is not impartial and represents a particular ideology and group

[@jjayasheela1]

Everything has been done stealthy

[@brksk4309]

The problem is we half-baked people ruling the nation now.

[@Human-xz2gr]

No use of all these discussions. Things change as a country moves forward. Now there is no reason for any special provision for J&K. The state should be governed in the same way as other states of Republic of India. He is talking about a situation where India gained independence but was not yet a Republic. Now India must be governed under a common Constitution and no attempt to dilute its Republic status should be encouraged. If old deeds are examined the worst act was invoking religion by Muslim league under Jinnah to divide India.

[@rajhegde5955]

Keep talking...keet crying... Kashmir was, is and will be part of Hindustan and cradle of Hindu civilization. Great job BJP, NaMo and Mit Shah...keep rocking...👏👏👏👏

[@veerathevarmurugan7805]

It is great speech

[@Human-xz2gr]

No use of all these discussions. Things change as a country moves forward. Now there is no reason for any special provision for J&K. The state should be governed in the same way as other states of Republic of India. He is talking about a situation where India gained independence but was not yet a Republic. Now India must be governed under a common Constitution and no attempt to dilute its Republic status should be encouraged. If old deeds are examined the worst act was invoking religion by Muslim league under Jinnah to divide India.

[@beharilalraina1877]

Lacs of Kashmiri Hindus have been thrown out of Kashmir, the speaker has not spoken a single word about this.

[@nagarajukr760]

Modiji & Amit Shah proved that this history student is utterly STUIOD & biased when we see the peace, developments, and peoples satisfaction after repealing of Article 370 & 35...

[@surendra6745]

Please see the condition of Kashmir after removing article 370. Kashmir is now more peaceful. No stone pelting on troops. No strikes. Significantly reduced terrorist activities and civilian deaths in terror attacks From kashmir to kanyakumari India is one country so no two constitution and flags. Supporting article 370 is indirectly supporting to separating kashmir from India Jaihind

[@eonworldwide4724]

Despite all these polemics with truth or otherwise the point to be emphasized and the only reason this enormity happened was due to the fact a vastly majority Muslim state that was ruled by a Hindu king wanted to accede to India that has vastly majority Hindus rather than to Pakistan a declared Muslim nation All the rest of procedural polemics underwhelms this fundamental and core issue

[@riyakhan-hx5et]

Just lies

[@sunsun2822]

Its amazing how every person (learned or not) discussed Kashmir, he does not talk (or opts NOT to) talk about massacre of 3 lac Muslims in jammu by janaSangh PRIOR to tribal invasion of Kashmir by Pakistani tribals. That point holds the key as to why accession by maharaja of Kashmir is not valid. 2. Shekh Mohd Abdullah was imprisoned by Nehru(otherwise his democratic friend) as the PRIME MINISTER of Kashmir and NOT as the CM.

[@xixi1x34]

Your so bizarre that can be proven by your comment, first of all only 60,000 Muslims died in Jammu massacre not your bizarre claim of 3 lakh, the truth is you don't know anything about kashmir conflict you are just living in delusion away from the ground reality and a bigger picture, keep making your own false assumptions.

[@okramronan]

How come he forgot to mention that princely state of manipur has a constitution before the indian independence.

[@shabeerkvt]

👍

[@arundhongde3176]

The use of the word referendum is wrong, the right word should be a plebiscite. There's a slight difference.

[@VoiceofPeople]

You failed to mention Manipur

[@shriprakash3953]

While this lecture covers most of the legal and constitutional issues concerning the reasons for the accession of Jammu and Kashmir to the Indian Union, the social and economic causes which made the National Conference and its leader Sheikh Abdullah want to be a part of India, are not adequately analyzed. The process of integration between Jammu and Kashmir and the Indian Economy, Education and Democratic politics is based on the solid basis of people wanting to move to Punjab, Delhi, Uttar Pradesh etc for jobs, marriage and education. The nature of the J and K army, with its famous Dogra Regiment was even more Indian than Pakistani. A plebiscite might not have been held. Numerous elections based on adult franchise have been held in J and K successfully since 1947. Today, J and K is in every way firmly integrated into the Indian Economy and Nation State. So, a whole range of constitutional options are available to our political leaders but none of them will be popular and successful, if they try to turn back this process of social and economic integration into India. Dr. Shri Prakash

[@indopakk]

By heart Kashmiris are now millionmiles away from india...in future it will bring darkness...

[@PahadiProgrammer]

Thanks for sharing....Informational yet biased which may seem like author is trying to be neutral but bases galore...though towards the end speakers admit he can't predict future but a few words in the end are negligible in front of what has been said for whole 30 minutes... Didn't give wholistic argument in defece of why J&K constitution was inferior compared to Indian constitution? Just cherry picked one data point about not having fundamental rights in there and argued about incoherence between right to property and land reforms that Sheikh Abdullah wanted to do. What about other fundamental rights? And what about other dimensions on which the J&K constitution was called inferior? Seems like speaker was defending a certain POV rather than being Objective about it - which is why article 370 was needed.. In the end he talks about 3 things about why nullification of 370 happened and is wrong in which the first thing he talks about is support for pluralism we needed 370 in its true form...but then he talks about 371 which gives supports to various states through provisions pertaining to those states.... But aren't those states fully integrated to India unlike J&K which has whole set of provisions to keep it separate from India

[@psarathy66]

andra was bifurcated by cong-i thinking that they will win both the new states and lost both ; so it is the not the bjp which had done this first

[@mushtaqbeg1652]

Brilliant, Who is this speaker ?

[@abhishekpati2006]

He is a Brainwashed Historian

[@ishwarchand6582]

Now kashmir is fully in hands of bharat, it has designed laws to protect native brahmin n in future continue t do so.

[@indersinghmalik8359]

State hood to j,k, be restored as well as 370 to 371 no difference can be allowed at par

[@user-fb2un8hy8t]

Reality through the words of an educated Indian. Andhbhakts seemingly excluded.

[@raghavendraraghu4988]

😂😂😂 The Print😂😂😂 ass 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@smahajan3675]

when we say that as per instrument of accession for J&K there were only three subjects- Defence, Foreign Affairs and Communication to be handed over to Indian Government we should remember it was same for all princely states and slowly total Indian Constitution was extended to all states. No other state had its own constitution. No other state had art 370. Very wrong analogy vis a vis elected President and Sadar-e-riyasat. J&K is a state not a sovereign identity. Indian constitution is supreme and above the state constitution. That goes without saying. Art 370 and Art 371 can't be compared at all. Read them for clarification. Conversion to UT was essential to control terrorism and separatism even though it doesn't set the right precedent. Necessary evil. Lots of investments happening in Jammu after removal of Art 370> this is because it is peaceful and stable. This will lead to considerable difference in development of two regions of J&K.

[@chatterjeeabheek5761]

This people are so arrogant that they are fighting against the Interest of India.

[@kalyandasgupta5872]

Alas we are a illiterate majority country.The progressive thinking literates should find ways to take such thoughts to the mass instead of putting their views to some very fews in a symposium. Nevertheless thank you very much for enlighten us

[@sanjeevn4515]

Mr.Methan you dig it without the trace of water. Only dust to come out causing polution. Also come out with the history of Pakistan, Turkey, Armenia, Egypt, Sudan, Syria, Nigeria, Afganistan, Lebanon, Iran, Iraq etc and the n number of innocents butchered there.

[@leelajaala6448]

These intellectuals have no sense of nationality. Kashmir is more important than the country, peace and prosperity,freedom of the minorities of kashmir etc.,

[@SadikKhan-bn7yz]

It is very unfortunate that sir you delivered the speech cum reality check in english because our andhbhakt cannot access this . Pls wire attach automatic subtitle .😂

[@INajnaR]

Madrasa chaaps expected to be understand this 😂😂😂😂

[@iqrar]

no no Sarastatti chhi chhi mandir chaaps expected to understand this 😂😂😂😂

[@ssryr6427]

Andha Namazi should ask there Italian Aunty why Congress created Pakistan for muslims and why didn't apologised for killing of 6 lakh Hindu Muslim during Partition.

[@digitunni7391]

Mashallah 🤣🤣🤣Which Madarsa?

[@VinodBandari-kc1cg]

Mohammed was also an Oxford graduate like u😂😂

[@vjsingh2662]

Thank God we still have the intellect to think things out The access to information has been brought by technology We need to be wary of the onslaughts from within That seek to take away fair play through muscular policies

[@Human-xz2gr]

No use of all these discussions. Things change as a country moves forward. Now there is no reason for any special provision for J&K. The state should be governed in the same way as other states of Republic of India. He is talking about a situation where India gained independence but was not yet a Republic. Now India must be governed under a common Constitution and no attempt to dilute its Republic status should be encouraged. If old deeds are examined the worst act was invoking religion by Muslim league under Jinnah to divide India.

[@vjsingh2662]

@@Human-xz2gr It was Manuwad that for thousands of years had divided India To escape exploitation we converted to other religions Only Secular values can reverse the backward slide Bhagwas and Talibanis be two faces of the same coin

[@kumarakantirava429]

@@vjsingh2662 You call him intellectual ? I do not agree. Because, Secessionist mentality did not begin with dilution of Provisions in 370 but in 1950's itself . Why did Nehru put Sheikh Abdullah to jail for 15 years starting from 1952 or 53 itself ? " Conspiracy against the state of India".

[@Human-xz2gr]

@@vjsingh2662 see this man’s dogla nature. He is supporting jinna for creation of an Islamic nation but he wants India to remain secular. This type of beimani hypocracy is the hallmark of Muslims and Khalistanis. If Muslims wanted secularism why did they divide India? Basically these people have hatred for Hindus.

[@vjsingh2662]

@kumarakantirava429 When the very foundation of reasoning is unsound One resorts to misrepresentation of facts and treachery Religions too be made handy tools by the unscrupulous Who in Insaniyat see weakness and live in hypocrisy The pretenders to the throne be many around us Should know it's no longer the age of monarchy Our best bet be on the peace makers Ready to live and die like Lal Bahadur Shastri

[@balajisankarkonakalla3369]

You just listen to him like that... After some days he comes out with justification for pandit genocide

[@ababeel9731]

I Know Haidrabad Junagadh J&K Distribution U ar Right

[@Human-xz2gr]

No use of all these discussions. Things change as a country moves forward. Now there is no reason for any special provision for J&K. The state should be governed in the same way as other states of Republic of India. He is talking about a situation where India gained independence but was not yet a Republic. Now India must be governed under a common Constitution and no attempt to dilute its Republic status should be encouraged. If old deeds are examined the worst act was invoking religion by Muslim league under Jinnah to divide India.

[@jitkr1489]

Mast.. now congress will take credit for it. lol.. Chalo theek hai then the wire should be praising this move!

[@dr.mukhtarahmed8579]

What a wonderful explanation Sir. Truth always prevails. Time to reconsider the removal of article 370 and make holistic approach to win the heart and mind of the people of J & K. Just keeping under governance rule make no sense.

[@Human-xz2gr]

No use of all these discussions. Things change as a country moves forward. Now there is no reason for any special provision for J&K. The state should be governed in the same way as other states of Republic of India. He is talking about a situation where India gained independence but was not yet a Republic. Now India must be governed under a common Constitution and no attempt to dilute its Republic status should be encouraged. If old deeds are examined the worst act was invoking religion by Muslim league under Jinnah to divide India.

[@Technovwood]

😂😂 republic, haven't you seen ruling on 370. Central govt can change any state into it.etc. without consulting the legislature of that state. Republic rip