Katamune Dori 片胸捕 Takagi Yoshin Ryu Shoden Omote Gata

[@toraguchitoraguchi9154]

This must be some Japanese thing because outside of Japan altercations don't usually begin with a lapel grab.

[@Ragingmarmot]

Like everything, it is a skill to add to the tool box. If you ever watch or train Judo or BJJ they grab whatever they can get. This doesn't mean the fight is going to start like this, but it might happen during the fight. Just like most fights don't start on the ground either, doesn't mean you shouldn't train sometimes starting in that position to learn how to counter some attacks that happen when on the ground. There are other movements that start out with punching to the face though.

[@toraguchitoraguchi9154]

@@Ragingmarmot Use a gun. Don't you carry one with you?

[@sirseigan]

You would be supriced how many times it has happen to me. Not in the stylic way itvis done here but still a lapel grab (or two). Often in combination with a push and lift or a pull and strike. No matter what that strike to the temple usually halts any further action for a while, creating a space in time to reverse the roles from attacked to attacker.

[@toraguchitoraguchi9154]

@@sirseigan Okay, so you've met lots of people who didn't know how to start a fight.

[@sirseigan]

@@toraguchitoraguchi9154 Hahaha might be 😄 However if you take a quick look at for example Urban Combatives with Lee Morrison then you will (hopefully) easily spot the benefits of "attachment" in a fight. Further I urge you to take a look at some videos of actual street fights and knife attacks. A grab and a strike is a quite common combo in street fights and it has several both pros and cons. Some people couple it "frameing" with the concept of "frameing". For example will you see that a double lapel/collar grab with a lift is not that uncommon. There is actually whole folk-wrestling styles developed around that (called "collar-take/throw"). A double lapel grab, often combined with a violent push, sometimes into a wall, is also a common setup to do a powerful head-but. A doubble collar grab and rotation to take the persons balance can also be a setup to make a classic hip-throw. When it comes to knife attacks then it is very common to attach with one hand (lapel/collar or ontop of the shoulder) and go full sewing machine with the other. Just because you do not think it is a good way to do it do not mean that it do not happen 😀 Further: what you see in this very video is a isolated pre defined scenario (waza) to train a and automate a certain set of motions. It is a training tool to highlight certain aspects, it is not a finnishing combo in Tekken. The most important aspect of the scenario is the stopping atemi to the temple to create an opening to switch the roles and going from being attacked to become the attacker. How the attacker grabs and why is much less important then the "swich".