Buy the Katana Gen 3 here: www.zzounds.com/a--3988626/item--BOSKTN100V3
@alexflores-gu8zfАй бұрын
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@ECO20222Ай бұрын
Now this is what I call an honest review from someone not trying to sell us the amp! Thanks ❤
@RobertHopkinsArt2 ай бұрын
Same here. MKII is just fine and no need to upgrade. My favorite engineer at Sweetwater advised me to stay where I'm at.
@CanadianRockerGuy2 ай бұрын
Yup, I'll be sticking with my Mk2 also
@leoolivero963Ай бұрын
One of, if not the best & most practical review of the Gen 3's to date. Thanks for posting. I'll keep waiting for the new Artist due in August. Greetings from down under.
@awittypilot89612 ай бұрын
I disagree....The bluetooth alone is worth a bajillion bucks. I gig my Artist and love it. Bluetooth makes it a HELL of a lot better to me.
@lenni-hazelsАй бұрын
In most of the comparison videos i have found the gen 3 sounded more crisp in the mid-highs than the mk2, also the 100 sounded somehow more satisfying (slightly less boxy) than the 50. Since I didn't have a Boss Katana yet the choice was easy to go for the gen 3 100. It should arrive next week, yay!
@GuitarnivoreАй бұрын
Good choice! The 100 has always sounded better in every version. Get to know the graphic and parametric EQ. That's where this amp can really shine!
@lenni-hazelsАй бұрын
@@Guitarnivore Nice, so it wasn't just my imagination :-D Thanks for the advice as well. I'll love to go ham with tweaking once it arrives, but I have the feeling it will be more about testing out all the sounds than really needing to "tweak" it, if that makes sense.
@joshwoj278423 күн бұрын
Thank you. Subscribed
@Lauri_K2 ай бұрын
The intro riff, goddamn! Love that riff! Reminds me of Down's "Temptation's Wings"
@Guitarnivore2 ай бұрын
YES! Very similar. I was thinking the same thing when I was playing around with it, but I couldn't remember the name of the song. It's hard to believe that album is almost 30 years old!
@Lauri_K2 ай бұрын
@@Guitarnivore Agreed :) The GEN 3 sounds more natural compared to the MK2. The Artist model especially.
@Guitarnivore2 ай бұрын
The Artist has the Waza speaker which always sounds better than the rest.
@Lauri_K2 ай бұрын
@@Guitarnivore yes, that's the only right one to be honest
@IsaacLausell2 ай бұрын
If they had only made the line out stereo so that you can monitor yourself on stage through the amp and send your stereo effects to the board. That alone for me would be worth the upgrade but here we are. I was told “ah but you can go stereo out of the headphones” which is true but then you can’t monitor yourself through the speaker. I think Boss continues some of these not so subtle inclinations. I personally like the Katana a lot but often I would just take the GT1000 core if there is an audio crew just so that I can go stereo. I don’t care either about not having full autonomy of the effects orde.
@stahliwood875515 күн бұрын
I own a mk2 50w. I should have chosen 100. I bought the ME90 and the Bluetooth adapter. I think I'm good the tone studio with all the options of the ME90 I've got option paralysis
@Guitarnivore15 күн бұрын
The ME-90 is awesome. Plug it into the the power amp in of the Katana. Even at $300, the Katana makes for a great powered speaker if you don't feel like messing with the tone studio on the Katana. The only real advantage I see the Katana having is the parametric EQ, which I think Boss should have put on the ME-90, but even without, the ME-90 sounds fantastic...but yeah the option paralysis is real. I would buy an ME-90 over a Gen 3 and just plug it into my Katana, especially with the more options it has.
@bretttrommler7562 ай бұрын
One thing i found out last night about my 100 Mk2 head is that the only effect that the effect loop return can get in front of is the reverb. Im not a huge fane of the Katana preamp. I have several different preamp pedals that I use. My favorite is the Ampworx Dual Wreck cuz i can get a very good Dual Rectifier type tone out of it. I do like a lot of the effects available in the Katana (not crazy about most of the overdrive/distortions) and id love to just use those along with one of my preamps. Unfortunately if I plug my preamp into the return, the only effect I can get is the reverb. If I plug into the main input and use the clean channel then I get the effects but also have to go through the Katana preamp. Thing is, if you look at the supposed layout of the Katana in the manual, it shows the effects loop BEFORE all the internal effects, which is obviously not correct. Anyway, all of this to ask... is the effects loop set up the same way on the Gen 3 Katana as it is on the Mk2, i.e. the return can go in front of the reverb but nothing else. The frustrating part is... I only got my Mk2 a couple months ago. If I had known the Gen 3 was coming, I would have waited.
@Guitarnivore2 ай бұрын
At 4:04 you'll see it can only go pre or post foot volume or post reverb. So it can only go before the delay and reverb. You really aren't missing anything very significant from the Gen 3 unless you want bluetooth or stereo headphone output.
@bretttrommler7562 ай бұрын
@Guitarnivore well, BT would be nice but not enough to be worth swapping amps. I did try to return my Mk2 as soon as I heard about the Gen 3 but of course that's not allowed.
@darrinthompson25142 ай бұрын
Same here as I bought mine in late April. I'm sticking with it because I love it and only play at home.
@justmehere6094Ай бұрын
Considering I have a Mk2 Artist, and the only thing I would really gain is the 'Air' and pushed amp type, I'll be passing. Even if I sell and buy new, that is a substantial cash outlay for those 2 little feature adds. SPECIALLY since it pisses me off, that they don't offer a firmware upgrade providing the new stuff, granted accessible only from the App, and thus in presets). Line 6 didn't abandon Catalyst owners like that when the CX came out. They gave it all to existing owners via Firmware.
@shanetaylor6823Ай бұрын
I was interested in the gen 3 possibly having the waza as speaker for them all. When the bought it out I thought I didn't need to upgrade from the mk2 after all the videos I've seen I'll probably upgrade to a waza cab mk2 for cheap Bluetooth honestly doesn't bother me that much sure it's useful and faster but not for a price difference of what it is.
@TheCSteveАй бұрын
I have the MK1 100 Artist .. What i learned from this that i just go back to oldskool amp. If nobody shares patches on the website and the company itself dicided to change the amp over time and not support the older ones and make the choiche that they are not compatible in tone studio then this amp is nothing special anymore. Then its just an amp with a decent sound. Its A great amp, but it could be better if they dont let the first buyers fall down after a short time, and try to change thier products over time because they pretend, this Amp gen 3 is better. Its probally the same thing if you open it up. TIP: If you want a better sound the change the speaker in a WAZA (the Artist has better speaker) or a Celestion or Jensen .. There are videos on it but i dont do that, but thats what makes the sound more full and pro .. Good start for starters this amp
@GuitarnivoreАй бұрын
The Mk1 to the Gen 3 would be a good upgrade, but not from the Mk2. You can get a great sound without a speaker swap in the mk2 by learning how to use EQ, especially the Parametric EQ. The Waza speaker is a fantastic speaker though. I had a Mk2 Artist at one time and I should have kept it. Thanks for watching/commenting.
@TheCSteveАй бұрын
@@Guitarnivore not agree.. mk1 is just the same amp with some new software things like IR on line out .. but every daw had an IR loader at least Reaper has that.. I still like Marshall jcm800 or soldano more .. but thats the price tag. Not for a beginner.. i compared the sound line out vs microphone, with microphone is still better recording.
@AlecBourneMidiMadScientist2 ай бұрын
I dunno. The ability in gen3 to seperately save 3 drive pedals and 3 sets of knob settings is a proper Gamechanger, this has not been possible before, some people seem to not really understand this. The headphones out as well is quite different, the mkii up till now has been dual mono. Same sound in both headphones which doesn’t do the stereo delays justice, it isn’t a huge deal if you’re mostly only a mono player but I’d rather plunk down a bit extra if jumping in now. The 100 head gen3 would be my choice of the lot.
@Guitarnivore2 ай бұрын
"The ability in gen3 to separately save 3 drive pedals and 3 sets of knob settings" I'm not sure I follow what you mean by that?
@AlecBourneMidiMadScientist2 ай бұрын
@@Guitarnivore mkii. You can go and select a tubescreamer, rat, klon for example in 1 preset. The knobs of each pedal will remain identical, if they’re at noon, they’re at noon for all 3. Gen3, set each one how you want it in the same preset. Say you wanted a klon as a mild boost , and then as a cranked overdrive. Now you can do this easily.
@Guitarnivore2 ай бұрын
@@AlecBourneMidiMadScientist Like all of the settings within that boost/FX or just the level? Because if it's only the level knob, that works the same way in the MK2. You go to Effects and if you cycle through the green/red/yellow, you can choose your boosts/fx adjust the level and write.
@Guitarnivore2 ай бұрын
I think I may be mistaken on that. It seems like more of a preset level. But either way, how would you cycle through each one without physically pressing the button on the amp?
@AlecBourneMidiMadScientist2 ай бұрын
@@Guitarnivore all the settings within the boost section specifically. I am hoping you still have that gen3 and haven’t had to return it yet. I’ve been running the app for it in offline mode and it appears to me that gen3 now works in exactly the same way as your mod or fx or delay sections. You will notice in a comparison side by side. In gen3 you could set the cents drive to act like a boost with low drive, higher volume etc in green. Swap your selection to red and you can change it to a overdrive by upping the gain, and lowering the volume. In mk i, mk ii, all the airs, WAZA and Kat air. The drive section will save only set of parameters and all your red,yellow,green drives will retain the same parameters, ie, set everything in green to noon, everything in red and yellow are at noon and cannot be changed without affecting all 3 . This is being discussed in the katana go owners club on Facebook. BOSS support are looking at it to see about updating the mkii to work like the gen3 which would be fantastic. The only way presently to get this to work is to duplicate the entire patch editing the second drive parameter and switch presets, this would seriously eat up your slots. I have a method with midi to externally assign and save multiple knob positions using the midi patch app, it works ok,but it’s a fair bit of programming to send 4 knob positions at a time. Experimentally it works, but this would be complicated to share …
@FSHB28 күн бұрын
Hi Scott! Do you know it Gen 3 supports all the great MKII tone patches that you've created? I have a good deal to get a Gen 3 but I want to play with as many MKII tones I've found online.
@Guitarnivore28 күн бұрын
Yes, it is backwards compatible with Mk2 patches.
@FSHB28 күн бұрын
@@Guitarnivore Nice! Have you tried your old patches to see if they sound the same on gen3?
@Guitarnivore28 күн бұрын
@@FSHB They do sound slightly different, but not in a bad way. It sounds like they eq'd more bottom end in them.
@FSHB28 күн бұрын
@@Guitarnivore thanks! Your contribution is life saving ♥️
@TypeoSАй бұрын
My question , does the 100 watt version sound better than the 50, I already own a 50 watt mk2 since 2020 and like it but I would like to have the option of a effects loop now and then.
@GuitarnivoreАй бұрын
The 100mk2 with it's bigger magnet has always sounded a little better than 50 mk2. I tried to doa comparison with them where you can hear the difference. It's not the best representation. kzbin.info/www/bejne/faS0lHiYms1pmLc The GUitar Geek did a comparison of the gen 3 here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZOcdoaYgtpmfdEsi=dfMIIhJ795SBqTMk&t=83
@awittypilot89612 ай бұрын
Maybe I should qualify...if someone made a bluetooth to USB B I might not replace my MkII. There is a midi controller but I can't trust it on stage
@Guitarnivore2 ай бұрын
Depending on what kind of phone you have, the Katana Librarian app with a USB OTG adapter works great, but if BlueTooth is your main reason for switching, then nobody can argue with that. It is a great option despite the extra cost.
@awittypilot89612 ай бұрын
@@Guitarnivore So many times I've needed a teak here and there on stage and no computer to hook up by wire. It's usually too much gain or volume differences patch to patch but you can't just turn it down. That takes all the other etting upside down too. It's so easy to get caught in the gain trap...it sounds 100 times different that in my music room at home. It's almost not worth setting up at home at all. Appreciate your vids...I'l learned a lot. The EQ setting alone were worth a million. Other than that...I don't fnd the phone to be worth much on set. An Ipad has the size but you really need a good tone studio in BOSS bluetooth to make it work on set. Thanks!
@user-ht1uo1ln8mАй бұрын
No. Keep your Mk 2. Good thing Guitar Center has a return policy
@astewart941022 күн бұрын
I’ve solved it. I own a MkI, a MkII, and now a Gen 3. Why have only one? 😉
@Guitarnivore22 күн бұрын
I'm thinking I'll end up with one sooner or later...🤷♂
@astewart941021 күн бұрын
@@Guitarnivore I got the Gen 3 100w head. The re-voicings on the amp types alone are worth it. On top of the usual (great) Katana features from previous Mks, they've added the new Pushed amp type, a Bloom control on the volume, a Contour on the EQ, and a Solo boost switch. I also love the Presence control and the 3 different cab resonance options (Vintage, Modern, and Deep). This one's a banger for sure. I just use the 5" reference speaker for home practice (I'm saving for the cab), and it's a thing of beauty already. Ha, I sound like I oughta work for Boss (I swear I don't, I'm just a fan). Cheers! :)
@astewart941021 күн бұрын
@@Guitarnivore Oh yeah, and I'm not all that excited about the Bluetooth option, as I never connect to a PC - the amps are more than enough as they are and I'd rather play guitar than fiddle so much with micromanaging settings. Plus, the Bluetooth doesn't do headphones and that's what I'd want versus Tone Studio control. Real oversight there, IMHO.
@livelypelts3325Ай бұрын
Who makes the Gen 3 speaker?
@GuitarnivoreАй бұрын
I'm not trying to be a smartass, but it's likely the same that made the speaker for the mk2. It's an excellent speaker regardless.
@Gk2003m2 ай бұрын
About your title: The moment someone has to tell me they are being honest, a red flag goes up. Because if they need to alert me that they are being honest, it tends to indicate they are typically not.
@Guitarnivore2 ай бұрын
I get it. Honesty should be expected, but there are far too many big channel shills out there being paid big bucks from brands to do reviews. That's not me. I make no money for making this video besides the miniscule pennies from ads KZbin runs or if someone buys from my affiliate link, which is few and far between. Point taken and I'll definitely consider that in the future. I might even change it. Thanks.
@Dajuro2 ай бұрын
Great sound comparisons to make your point . . . o . . . wait.
@Guitarnivore2 ай бұрын
Other channels have already done the work a lot better than I could have. Andertons (kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIO3eIp6ncllb7csi=4liJMwOsuNJ2biif) and Juca Neary (kzbin.info/www/bejne/laiVp5Jvfp6lZ7ssi=63Kzjme_Mxu3waeE) did great comparisons.