Kate Andrews highlights the problems with CMI's gender wage gap study on BBC News London

Head of Communications Kate Andrews highlighted the methodology problems with the Chartered Management Institute's gender wage gap study, which compared men and women's annual earnings rather than their hourly earnings; this most likely proves that men work more hours per year, not that they are paid more because of their gender.

[@TempestTossedWaters]

In other news we are actually so stupid as to believe corporations would hire men if they could get the same work from a woman for less. This is BBC London giving you the latest nonsensical groupthink.

[@pinkyn0se]

Dragonworks It's almost like a "The Day Today" sketch...

[@leolapulga6784]

exactly! and you'd think particularly the kings of capitalism, the top level bankers etc., would know and exploit this right away if it were true.

[@polypus74]

There is one reason that corporations might pay more for men, and that is if they were generally better at their jobs. I'm sure feminists don't particularly like that line of reasoning either though.

[@lesmatthew6051]

Three years late. "This is BBC London giving you the latest nonsensical groupthink." Did you watch the whole thing? Because what I saw was Kate Andrews ripping their survey apart.

[@adamhero459]

Exactly, either men work more for those salaries, or they produce better results(ie money for the company) to get those higher salaries/bonuses.

[@LupusInfernum]

Isn't amazing how Kate gets interrupted when she starts laying the smackdown?

[@Bradley_Lute]

You can practically see the setup for a perfect suplex get interrupted suddenly by a fart in the face

[@BillyCosmosis]

5:40 "I do think we're getting a little hung up on y'know, the hourly thing" Comically idiotic non-rebuttal to an absolutely key point in the debate.

[@SweatMusicProduction]

+Billy Cosmosis Did you see her get the last word in, and then look at Kate for a reaction? That was hilarious. Her little nod as she fails to get any reaction lmao.

[@GOffUnit]

+Billy Cosmosis In other words, "I do think we're getting a little hung up on y'know, the [facts]."

[@kieronhoswell2722]

"I do think we're getting hung up on, you know, the thing that disproves my entire point."

[@johnthomas8492]

Exactly Billy, talk about cognitive dissonance! 'There shouldn't be a correlation between hours worked and money earned'....what sort of economics is that? Oh, its feminist economics were women get paid the same for working less!! How patronising to women!! So, entry level jobs, women are earning the same, then later on they aren't as represented in management so aren't earning as much as men....Mmmm I wonder what tends to happen in women's lives a bit later on in the west??? Ah that's right they take time off and have children, which means they can't work as many hours! Don't blame the unconscious bias of males, blame nature LOVE!

[@burtles1dons]

@@SweatMusicProduction Haha it's a 40 year old survey so it can't possibly be misleading. Like that is the total basis for something being misleading lol.

[@BoffinGrusky]

"....when compared to men doing SIMILAR jobs". It was all downhill from there.

[@Bradley_Lute]

Then she runs out of talking points and circles back to the glass pyramid theory that doesn't support her data. More total hours worked means more EXP and better jobs. Which is also supported by the like for like hourly wage comparison.

[@NMOBrien]

Agreed. Similar is not the same. The definition of “similar” then becomes subjective.

[@ManInTheBigHat]

"More women graduating with better grades." Why aren't we stopping right there and talking about that problem!

[@Bradley_Lute]

Haha, because to them it is a justification of why women are getting screwed instead of evidence of a feminized education system.

[@triple-stan]

Lol because it doesn't effect them so who cares right.

[@AA-yc8yr]

@@Bradley_Lute You mean, 'feminized' because women are better academically, right?

[@UncleMort]

How can you undertake a survey and then produce "findings" and state them as fact without releasing any of the data, that`s either dishonest or incompetent .

[@gondokoro]

"Getting hung up about the hourly thing"..you mean details!

[@mark224]

"It's a 40 year old survey it's not misleading" Oh ok. It's 40 years old. That clears it up I guess.

[@Ozzah]

There absolutely were egregious gender biases in employment and remuneration back in the day. Take Emmy Noether for example: arguably one of the best and most influential mathematicians of her time, and someone who greatly advanced the course of physics. But purely because she was a woman, the universities were reluctant to give her a position, and in the end only agreed to employ her and pay her a token salary. It wasn't until decades later that her genius was finally recognised and admitted. THIS is gender bias, and it makes no sense. Any employer who can make good, productive use of an employee should hire them, regardless of their gender. And if they can get away with paying women less, then there would be no unemployed women. So a 40 year old survey is totally not applicable to circumstances today. Today, there's nothing a woman can't do.

[@stufoo]

i think she meant theyve been collecting data for 40 years now. it can still be bad data though

[@cromwellsghost3434]

Mark-It-8-Dude 40 years in the making, and the situation is just as clear as mud. Way to go and spending 4 decades to n a job you fumbled. Taking part time workers, and grossing up their wage? That seems accurate🤭

[@WheredMyPiggyGo]

I absolutely think that decisions made when I was 2 years old should reflect on me now 40 years later lol.

[@markhansen2582]

If it is not discrimination, then it is not discrimination. There is also an asian wage gap. Asians make more than whites in America for example. Do we care? No. Because it is not based on discrimination, they choose higher paying jobs and are more qualified.

[@T0pMan15]

Not just America but UK too. Asians always aim for the highest jobs possible in general, because of their collectivist culture attitude. It’s about doing something that benefits a family. Having 3 children; one who becomes a surgeon, another a lawyer/solicitor and the other one a business owner benefits the family in general. The parents choose their children’s job role always. That’s why many Asians are in those type of positions.

[@hariseldon3786]

Correct - and the second best paid group in both the US and the UK are Indians... incidentally your comment about Asians also applies to New Zealand, Australia, Canada, Malaysia, Thailand and Peru (don't have stats for other countries but I am willing to bet that there are a few more (aside from China, Singapore, Taiwan, HK and so on - all added together we are looking at almost 1/3 of the worlds workforce).

[@Yiryujin]

Don't forget that unlike American culture, Asian culture man are expected to also support their parents. its common for Asian man to live with their parents until marriage age, sometimes even after marriage (just move to bigger house). parents watch grand kids, man and sometimes wife puts food on table. This culture is fading slightly, but it is still significant. Very family oriented, instead of individual oriented like Americans.

[@flip4v]

Shhhhhhh don't go around telling everyone the secret! 🤐

[@Bradley_Lute]

There is every reason to think that Asians should face pay discrimination and yet the meritocracy works for them. This could be "light skinned privilege" or it could just be that better upbringing and better productivity equals better pay.

[@stephenr1000]

"No no, the pay gap isn't caused by women working less than men". Next sentence "women work part-time more than men". 🤔

[@iainjmclaren]

'Are you willing to work in the evenings?' 'Are you willing to work at weekends?´ 'Are you willing to travel?' Everybody who works in a corporate environment knows who are more or less likely to answer 'yes' to those questions and the consequences for pay and career over time. Focusing on your career or your family inevitably means making sacrifices in one area or the other. I find it very disappointing that interest groups and the media are willing to publish misleading data to sell the idea that you can have your cake and eat it and feed the dominant narrative.

[@boduholm8463]

Women will be responsible.

[@queenmetal]

Kate Andrews knows what she's talking about, that other woman and the host are ding bats.

[@trade5149]

Feminist: "Women gets payed less than men!" Everyone: "Where's the data proving that?" Feminist: "I refuse to release that information."

[@LeProxenetez]

God bless Kate

[@GOffUnit]

This video is a lesson in how to identify a seasoned political swindler.

[@deductivevariance3497]

What is intentionally misleading the public called in law again?

[@ronnieswoleman4290]

Kate Andrews is such a cutie, so glad she's also brainy and not a batshit stupid feminist.

[@ronnieswoleman4290]

Funny, considering your name is very porn like.

[@damnsurfer522]

You can't multiply hours to simulate an equality, sorry doesn't work like that.

[@cameronmajer1531]

Thank you 🙏 how stupid is that institution???

[@ZimbaZumba]

More of Kate Andrews please.

[@charlheynike9619]

"let's not get hung up on the hourly thing"... Haha

[@johnwalton287]

What I don’t understand about this pay gap is, if it’s so well known to exist why aren’t the courts full of legal cases to sue for discrimination?

[@densealloy]

The idea that a company is going to pass on promoting a woman who is better at a job because men like to talk to men is laughable. It is about who can do the job so the business can make MONEY! What the hell is she talking about taking part time employee's and extrapolating a full time salary. I've been on salary as manager in a billion dollar company and I worked all the time, no questions asked. I had customers around the world and part of my compensation was because I worked constantly. If I had been offered what a part time employee was making (extrapolated), I would have negotiated higher or gone to a competitor (along with my million dollar accounts).

[@ghart6494]

Here's a survey, now hold on while I exaggerate and use my feelings to tell you what the survey actually meant. Holy shit. Kate's patience with such nonsense is impressive to watch.

[@commontater1785]

Wow! This woman presents statistics from her survey than tell us not to get hung up on the numbers! The balls on her!

[@SumoGambit]

Lol, I love how Kate Andrews always debunks this pay gap myths. And the hosts like always, totally ignorant about everything being discussed. They don't even want to publish the study. Laughable.

[@ScottishAtheist]

This was infuriating. First of all, why start off this piece with "women are basically working 60 days for free" and "women - like men, only cheaper" I mean come on. Of course women aren't working for free you maniac; using such terminology evokes slavery. Second, what was the point of having you on there Kate when they immediately interrupted you the second you spoke? "well we call it a glass obstacle course, because you can't see it, it's sort of pyramid shaped with a ceiling and a floor and "SHUT UP KATE I'M TALKING HERE" This format is way too short to get the nuance across about the pay gap. Slogans like "70% to a man's dollar", "Equal pay day" Work on these news bites, explaining it not so much. What the topic needs is a full film dedicated to it.

[@Chickenriceandpeas]

What the topic needs is burying! it's biased debates by shills like the BBC that's keeping it alive.

[@RonArts]

Whoah that woman from the CMI surely had a condescending smile on her face. And the fact that they don't release the study, well, that totally destroys the credibility.

[@Bradley_Lute]

Well to be fair, Kate goes straight for the nuts

[@idonthave1111]

I love the fact that that gargoyle felt compelled to squeeze in the last word. Damn near 75% of the piece was supportive of her position, but she just couldn't let it go at that. GG, you look like a champ.

[@imluvinyourmum]

Did she drop out of a time machine? Any store/department manager in 2016 worth their weight is on some sort of bonus/commission structure on top of their salary, and 'managerial roles' isn't separating assistant managers from managers. But putting part-time workers up to a 'full time equivalent' is also laughable, never knew those stats were that bogus.

[@BillyCosmosis]

As if the old "Glass Ceiling" argument wasn't bullshit enough, we're now supposed to swallow the new, improved "Glass pyramid effect" @2:52 for managerial positions, and even the idiotic "Glass Obstacle Course" @3:23 for other jobs 😂 How stupid do they think we are? Her "argument" was just a rambling set of vague generalisations with feminist buzzwords thrown in. OTOH Kate whatshername had a cogent argument backed up by facts and also demonstrated that she was better informed on the CMI study methodology than CMI woman herself! But as usual wasn't given sufficient air time to lay out her case.

[@AngelQuiroz]

Kate Andrews 😍

[@markr1550]

My wife stepped out of the full-time workforce for 15 years to raise children. She did this, because my earning potential, based on my field, is substantially higher than hers. When she returned, why would anyone expect her to earn the same as a man in her field, who had worked those 15 years full-time, and worked their way up the "glass" pyramid.

[@timwh7467]

"I do think......what we're doing here......is getting a little hung up on........ the hourly thing" Lol.

[@ifthebeltiscrackedor]

As long as the question of "why" is avoided, any myth about difference can be perpetuated, retold into eternity. Maybe if women worked 30% longer on the issue they would finally get into the idea science is not the same as hearsay.

[@phillipsmalley7706]

I like this woman!! I do 60 hour weeks including weekend work in a factory, I make around £42k a year my girlfriend does payroll in an office job and does a 40 hour work week and makes around £22k a year. Men generally get paid more because they do more dangerous work and work longer hours than woman

[@chris4087]

Stop talking sense. It doesn't fit their agenda. They focus on the cushion jobs. I never hear them talking about hard labour jobs about the HUGE unbalanced men to women ratio in this field. They just seem to ignore that.

[@AA-yc8yr]

'More dangerous' job does not automatically mean more responsible or qualified, and pay normally goes with the degree of qualified labour, not how long one does menial work per day. Besides, by your own admission, you don't work twice as long as your girlfriend, yet your pay is nearly twice as much. She uses her brain and clearly does the more qualified work than you, yet you get paid significantly more. That is in fact quintessential discrimination.

[@phillipsmalley7706]

@AA-yc8yr okay, if I didn't do the overtime, we'd be on the same wage!! When I wrote that I was a CNC machine operator working to engineering specs and folding metal. I've now started a limited roofing company self-employed. My girlfriend has changed jobs she's on more money than her previous job and has started her own semi-permible makeup and botox business. The money I make goes towards her, helping her business grow! When she's up and running, she'll more than likely be earning more than me! And I'm on 1k a week because of the hours I do, I charge £160 a day and have another roofing job on the side where I charge £30 an hour. We're a team and support one another!!

[@AA-yc8yr]

@@phillipsmalley7706 That's great, but your clarification actually makes my point even stronger. Your previous work as CNC operator was by no means more qualified than your girlfriend's in payroll, yet as you stated yourself, you got paid more (by a lot). Sure, much if not all of that may have come from your overtime, but even without it you state you'd have taken home the SAME pay as her, despite the qualitiative difference in the nature of the work you both did. Good on you both though to have taken things into your own hands and gone to develop your own businesses. And good luck.

[@A_Turner]

The problem with focusing on managerial salaries, especially in London, is that with private employers they can sort of pay their managers whatever they want, and the ones above them can put pressure on those managers to work for as long as possible until their work is done. That’s not gender discrimination, as ALL managers experience this. They don’t work the longer hours because they want to. They do it because they have work to do. And reference to my first point, the salaries may not be set by any common standards to make sure all these managers are paid the same. I mean, why would a company privately owned care about what a different company is paying their managers. That’s none of their concern unless they start losing staff to these other companies. Then they might put the salary up.

[@Dinuzulu1879]

Journalist should be fined for interpreting statistics properly

[@chaschoune]

5:50 "If you look at the bigger picture...". Of course she does not want to look at the details, because it contradicts her conclusions.

[@462rob]

WHY IS THE GAL ARGUING FOR THE PAY GAP ALLOWED TO FINISH HER SENTENCES AND ARGUMENTS WHILE THE OTHER GAL GETS INTERRUPTED EVERY 20 SECONDS!!!!!!!!!???????

[@marvenlunn6086]

They always avoid talking about hours worked or hourly rate of pay when people do talk about that the pay gap disappears

[@buellmoody8262]

did hear right a forty year old study and i love how they don't give the info on how they got their answer

[@Bradley_Lute]

The study was 40 years and running. So lots of data. But still isn't worth anything if you aren't analyzing it in an honest way.

[@guyvernon9796]

Equalise bricklayers too. A field dominated by men. Should be equal;)

[@nicoletingey3325]

Guy Vernon fuck we couldn’t even lift the bricks men would be working twice as hard if women went into that and getting paid less for the amount of work they would have to do

[@ericlaperle1978]

The real problem in the the mythical gender pay gap is that it's calculated yearly when it should be calculated on an hourly basis. People must understand that pay inequity based on gender is ILLEGAL and therefore is completely ridiculous that employers would blatantly pay women less for the same job. Statistically women work less hours yearly for many reasons including but not limited to family, children (pregnancy), etc...

[@rubenlopez7142]

I must definitely hate how this stupid people that defend this statement that women earn less than men for the same work have this detestable tendency to interrupt others while speaking!

[@migibeats104]

Why is she obscuring the fact that if you work longer hours consequently it means a higher salary? Not being hung up about hours.

[@vijaynair2403]

@2:32 Did anyone notice that the host (or presenter as you English call them) misspoke her name? It’s Kate Andrews, not Kate Adams!

[@BC-vg3zf]

Hate it when people interrupt others no matter what they are talking about

[@earlwarner4404]

Okay... the gap is roughly 30% and men tend to work 30% more hours a week....... How can people not see the simple math there? Work 30% more hours and you get paid 30% more. It's a very simple equation.

[@BinaryPrime]

I like how the older lady could just never accept that men are revealed through statistics to be more dedicated (through hours devoted) workers than women, respectively.

[@SweatMusicProduction]

+BinaryPrime I actually feel more understanding when it comes to these older women who push this crap though, because obviously they don't have much involvement and knowledge of the modern world and young people.

[@michaelcontreras148]

Kate is brilliant

[@stephenr1000]

Beginning of the clip - "we should pay based on achievement rather than hours worked". A subtle acknowledgement that women work less, hence achieve less and earn less.

[@ICECREAMK1NG1-jw8ig]

I run a small business. I stopped hiring women years ago. Not worth the trouble. They don't work as hard, have more time off, It's just not worth it. If though I could pay women less than men for the same work, I would think again. I am a business after all. I'm lucky that not employing women does not affect my business. There is absolutely no pay gap. These feminists are not helping women, they are really hurting them. #GRIDGIRLS anyone ?

[@DKzCoolD2]

Someone forgot to tell the feminist that you can't be paid for work you don't do. So if women are working 37h and the men are working 41h, they damn well should be paid 10% more. Not to mention, the higher up the ladder you go, the more likely it is that you might need to work 50, 60, 70, 80h weeks and women simply don't want to. Again, you can't be paid for work you don't do. Lastly, did they say they surveyed "all managerial positions"? So now we are comparing the junior manager at starbucks to the vice president of Bane & co, one of the biggest accounting firms in England? Ridiculous.

[@hariseldon3786]

Women spend 86% of the average household income - so just assuming they do earn less - women are spending significantly more - one wonders where that money comes from?

[@andyb438]

Did she say it was a 40 year old survey?

[@Bradley_Lute]

That's what I thought but I think it started 40 years ago

[@wraith5085]

Of course they cut off the one lady saying that the pay gap is because of hours worked, and other factors than gender.

[@sjjf101]

It’s money and power. Not equality.

[@musicbcwalk]

This CMI lady trying to obfuscate after getting called out on her lies 😂😂😂😂😂

[@ekorusoy]

Kate making a solid point again.

[@Bradley_Lute]

She is way to hard hitting for this to be a fair fight. "I called your office earlier today".

[@kamiro]

Didn’t Thomas Sowell already cover this in the 70s?

[@Altoseb]

1981

[@ryana-6762]

I love Kate she's so beautiful inside and out

[@TheRealJohnHooper]

Are these people not able to compare men part time wages vs female part time wages?

[@mr7wi]

How can you make assertions without publishing your data?

[@JeffSmith-pl2pj]

If you are a manager that is the first to arrive and the last to leave, That is noticed and your pay increases. "Grossing up" doesn't solve this basic flaw in the survey. Women have a little bit different priorities. They like it that way and men like it that way.

[@Snidebark]

2:31 - Did she introduce Kate Andrews as Kate Adams?

[@odabuu]

How come no one post the amount of hours worked by each gender?

[@DavidPerez-lo4dn]

I find it more and more evident that every video kate is in she gets interrupted when she's spitting out the facts.

[@gsf23]

what the hell? at the end she said it was a 40 year old survey?

[@jessicastrat9376]

Doesn’t the old lady have a point? Is it not fair to multiply the part time hours of women, to then compare it with with full time outs of men for the same job?

[@robertbrooks4413]

The purpose is to "force" companies to address your assumption, and thereby draw a conclusion that you have decided upon? Great.........

[@b9y]

Look at how out of hand it's got this year already. Misinterpreting data like no tomorrow, shit.

[@GraphicPup]

haha the presenter says "Kate Adams"

[@John-Evans]

Another completely misleading survey. These companies remunerate their staff based on how valuable they are to the company. Men are in general more committed to their work. They work both longer hours and more intensively, so they produce better results for the company, so the company reward their greater efforts. Companies reward effort and could not care less about gender. As Confucius said “Count not the hours but that which is accomplished within those hours.”. Throughout my working life I could see that it was always men working overtime, holidays and weekends. Women chose not to. They wanted a better home/work life balance. The men kept the show going - always. If women want to earn parity with men they need to step up their game.

[@aiden7178]

please listen to how she said "SIMILAR".

[@Greynerd]

WHERE does the gap actually exist. WHO is actually affected by the GAP?? If it is simply a statistical exercise it only exists in cyberspace.

[@MrOscarM26]

This is why i love kate zero bull shit

[@Yiryujin]

She is correct in the sense that managerial position is salary so hours worked does not matter. However, generally hours worked directly leads to amount of success or amount of work/project done. This leads directly into your review when you are getting raise or promotion. You can't just say since its managerial and its salary, hours worked doesn't matter in annual income. it also directly leads to amount of bonus (based on success). That old lady is trying to pigeon hole her own data to fit her needs.

[@griff9290]

You get’em Kate! This survey sounds fishy.

[@lemming573]

I'm only hiring women from now on, apparently I can hire women at 70% of what I would pay a man.

[@Taylorkaraoke]

is it my impresion or is Kate not properly lit? i saw once some comment under an interview to Jordan Peterson, where someone pointed out that lights as well as the soundrecording were clear and crisp for the interviewer, but were rather done poorly on Jordan. Is that something they do with the less welcome of the guests in TV

[@NathanBChampine]

If more women are working part-time than men what does she think would happen with the earning gap.

[@chrisbrown6168]

How many times did they speak over Katie Andrews?

[@epicdjyoshi648]

The other woman was being so patronising throughout the entire interview, just because she is younger or doesn't conform to her opinion.

[@lofo7703]

Why doesn't that woman think that the number of hours you work is relevant to how much you earn.

[@pantarei8382]

Notice how the young women is interupted by both host and old women every time .. because she speaks an uncomfortable truth!!

[@Avidcomp]

Just happened to be playing Miles Davis' So What... get the levels right and this clip becomes much more entertaining. All Blues works quite well to.

[@colinharbinson8284]

"if we look at the bigger picture", always a good get out if you've lost the argument.

[@badwellasia4898]

The two older women is rude they won't let her finish.

[@paulfletcher9684]

Kate Andrews is lovely.

[@Thenosferatu1900]

kate andrews is the only unbias one in this discussion. I like to hear her speak in general!

[@Ozzah]

What is this "paid based on what you produce" nonsense? I'm all for KPIs and other productivity metrics, but the overwhelming majority of us are not making shoes in a factory here. What is a call centre operator producing? How do you compare an operator that churns through 100 easy calls versus someone who handles 5 exceptionally difficult ones in the same interval? What about someone who does R&D? What if the company decides not to commercialise the research? What is the output then?

[@chrislloyd5415]

Men are promoted to higher grades, partly because they put in the extra hours to get noticed and promoted. But the survey also suggested that at the highest levels of management women are paid 30% less than men. This is hard to explain in my opinion. Senior managers are not getting paid per hour.

[@benden5095]

Companies are in the business of saving money, if this were true companies would primarily hire women has managers. By an large women choose to work less hours than men.

[@bobjones4469]

HOWEVER, I could buy the argument that people are more likely to promote or hire those that are more like them. We all have in-group out-group tendencies and have biases and we know FOR SURE that a person's outward appearance ABSOLUTELY matters in how others judge them. Unfortunately, it's very hard to concretely prove this.

[@luckyluc25]

She said more woman work part time than men do, but they took the part time salary and grossed it to full time salary and found it not equal? Well, why wold anyone who works less expect the same pay as those who work more? Even hourly. Reward are given to those who work harder. I know many woman who have made more than me doing the same job. They earned it. People usually make more because they earned it. Watch what your kids learn these days. Don't let them grow up thinking the world is against them like Feminist and American Democrats are like. They're the worst

[@oldenshort1346]

The only way this can be sorted is comparing 1 on 1 all the bullshit excuses under the Sun wont solve this issue, glass this glass that, it's also typical that the Old Hag gets more Talk Time.

[@LotfiAisawiTunisia]

You 've good thoughts and you're a very good human 🌷🌹🌷

[@joncocks2262]

If any gender pay gap. It's only for the really well paid people. Anyone on living wage is pretty much on the same.

[@chrisyorke3013]

If CMI releases its survey and key input data, we can better evaluate it. But just how might a London employer get hold of these superwomen who not only work equally efficiently and productively, but are (allegedly) also eager to work 60 days a year free? Such women will be in demand, but how to find them?

[@lepolygone3305]

LOL! Why would it make ANY sense to bloat up the part-time salary to full-time standards in they're admitted manipulated statistics!? Can she even understand that a full-time "manager" is much more of an asset than a part-time one (it certainly is for the private sector). So what if a full-time employee enjoys more benefits than a part-time? Isn't it the whole point behind incentives? Doesn't matter if you're a man, woman, black or white. If an employer is stupid enough to discriminate against it's prospect employee, then i'm certain we're not talking about a successful business here (also note that it's illegal if proven in court). If you're stupid enough NOT to negotiate a fair contract for yourself, well, that's your problem (everyone faces that problem regardless of gender or race). This is such a non-issue in 2018, please.

[@sciencefliestothemoon2305]

And this is the reason why everyone should at least understand the basics of statistics.