Katie Nolan | South Beach Sessions | The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Some things are better left unsaid... yeah, no.
It's been years since Katie Nolan and Dan worked together at ESPN and a lot has changed since then... in more ways than either of them ever shared with one another until now. Katie and Dan pull out all the stops in addressing the challenges they've faced since they last saw each other, the immense joy and growth they've found on the other side of pain, and clear the air on how things really went down during the uncertainty of leaving ESPN. This is what friends are for.
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[@KDeligero]

Katie's podcast was a lot of fun back then. Watching this episode is like catching up with an old college friend that you used to hang out with every day. "Love you, mean it".

[@jasonzambricki1669]

have you checked out her multiple appearances on Pablo Torre's new pod?

[@complexend4133]

@@jasonzambricki1669 shes so good on pablo torre. i love katie.

[@mca217]

South Beach Sessions has always been Dan's wheel house. His interviews are in depth and introspective. Great stuff Dan. Keep it up.

[@s13shaka]

It’s literally the same people doing the same interviews over and over again. Meadowlark content is massively boring

[@dwayneacarter]

@@s13shaka Yet you consume it religiously. Says more about you than Meadowlark.

[@s13shaka]

@@dwayneacarter I’ve never watched any SBS I literally just open the video to comment, then delete it from my watch history bc I don’t want this trash cluttering up my account

[@nailbanger2]

Damn, s13haka, you need to get outside a little more. Or just skip past the stuff you don't like. This ain't yelp!

[@lianafeeser7868]

Everything Katie said about depression. Every. Thing. Chef's kiss. Katie is an amazing communicator. Love her so much.

[@magicfinders4966]

The conversation about the intersect between grief and depression is one of the most raw and insightful masterpieces I've heard. This interview was top notch.

[@Bstans36]

Garbage time was that underground mixtape we all had that felt like “our” own lil secret. Salute too Katie

[@gretchenmittelstaedt6703]

Sports? With Katie, Ashley, and Jay was The. Best. A very cathartic listen during the pandemic. And her women’s World Cup show with Midge Purce brought back some of that energy. Can’t wait to see where she goes next!

[@DraftKings]

We ❤ you, Katie.

[@theurbanangst]

Katie your explanation of the daily grind that is chronic depression is spot on. You deserve any and all of past and future success.

[@newmie]

Katie is one of my favourite content creators. Love Meadowlark slowly but surely onboarding her..... I CARE

[@desi_no_aka]

You know why Katie’s the best… because who else could draw such a beautiful, vulnerable picture of what it’s like to work in proximity to sports and entertainment and the high stress environment it inevitably becomes, and what’s it’s like to try and find yourself all at the same time. What a high wire act and what a success story she is already. All of that and then to end with “who cares” I loved it. 😅

[@The360Nate]

Love Katie thank you for Garbage Time. It was the first time my sister saw a woman like her on television who has a large passion for sports but who also can see the humor in it. Whatever professional venture you choose next you will always have a fan in me. “Love you, mean it.”

[@Yesyou_]

Get over yourself

[@obtusemooose]

youre actually a huge loser ​@@Yesyou_

[@asceticblur]

Katie Nolan is so quick witted, so funny and charismatic it's insane to me that ESPN let her go. Well actually considering what a dumpster fire ESPN has become I guess it's not that surprising. I sincerely hope Katie gets an opportunity to shine wherever she chooses.

[@EntertainYourselfEY]

Katie is awesome but she was being paid millions for doing a podcast a few times a week by the end, it would’ve been ridiculous to keep her

[@user-pj2zq3ty7m]

Or she’s just not.. you all think this about Pablo and bomoni too. If they were these huge talents they would last. They aren’t as likable to the outside world. You are all in an echo chamber. There is more to it that just talking fluidly and clearly.

[@asceticblur]

@@user-pj2zq3ty7m lol I bet you just love Stephen A. Smith, Skip Bayless and Colin Cowturd dontcha! You're definitely a man with refined taste and we should all listen to you.

[@TheEnun08]

Shes been fired multiple times by different networks for a reason.. same as bomani. They dont bring in the viewers aka most people dont find them funny or entertaining. I dont hate either but sometimes you have to be realistic

[@lillagahnavich7700]

pretty sure she was in the "go woke, go broke" culture of ESPN that you call a dumpsterfire but rly its idiots like her, Bomani and Sarah Spain that are just unsufferable when all im tryna heat about is ball

[@professorsrdesai]

This is a great episode. We have family members who also suffer from depression but don’t always show it. They fake being happy and smile and laugh. Peace be on you and thanks for sharing this.

[@TheEbo34]

Great conversation. I'm just glad she's doing better and well. Was worried the ESPN debacle and the apple tv hate would break her but glad she's doing better and she has Dan in her life. You will always be an OG Katie never forget that

[@bemaod]

I was just happy to hear Katie Nolan and had no idea I was walking into a deep conversation I needed to hear. I finally got help with my depression two years ago. At the end when Katie mentioned her time with Apple on MLB bummed me out. I never got to catch a lot of the Friday night games but when I heard Katie on a game for the first time I was excited.

[@jeremyblack9772]

This south beach was amazing, thank you so much Katie for coming in and doing this!

[@QuinningTime]

An amazing and necessary talk on depression. Katie dropping BARS. Thanks both for sharing & allowing the space to share

[@stkmktfan]

Loved watching Highly Questionable with Dan and his dad.

[@Merge-left]

Have missed hearing and seeing Katie. Hope to hear and see her much more.

[@restlessgeezer]

Wow, what a show. Very intelligent conversation and I never expected such an incisive and instructive discussion of mental health. I'm bipolar and seldom do I hear anything like this. Thank you.

[@LUISSCS813]

Love these conversations. You can call it an interview if you want but it’s just a conversation when Dan does it. Great episode with Katie. Hope she’s around Meadowlark more going forward.

[@ddrakulic78]

Man, what a conversation......

[@mca217]

The frustration in today's society is that when you go through depression often times people see it and immediately are put off by those moments of weakness. So many relationships fail when a partner experiences depression because the partner you're with who's not depressed doesn't always understand. They are both spot on about the massive hit your confidence takes when you're depressed. It is absolutely deflating.

[@uncletido99]

​@@mkhanman12345and your comment is the exact reason problems occur.

[@matdouglas6631]

​@@mkhanman12345this is a ridiculous assumption

[@obtusemooose]

​@@uncletido99huh? are you stupid?

[@blackspider1405]

As someone who has depression and currently has a therapist, yup to everything Katie said.. every word of it.

[@KK-pm7ud]

Garbage Time was one of the best sports shows on tv. I wish they could just do that show again and in that format. Acoustic Katie is best version of a Nolan show. If they had it on once a month or once a week, it would be fantastic. I put it up there with Pardon The Interruption. Old segments and episodes are still more entertaining than most of what is on tv today.

[@Reese13]

Katie, I have missed you. 🎉❤🎉❤.

[@epiikkhaosgaming]

Been waiting to here from her. Seems like ESPN never knows what to do with their talent.

[@j.s3300]

Disposable

[@mitchellharrison9237]

soder knows what he got

[@carlosalvidrez9268]

Literally Corporate America

[@ivanbou]

I missed you Katie. It's always a joy to listen to you, hearing you makes me smile. We all missed you. Here is hoping you keep coming on Meadowlark stuff.

[@boimasa]

Love seeing Katie Nolan doing work more frequently. Love Dan and Katie working together and helping each other.

[@chrisparish4198]

Katie said something really important that I didn't know. "You might meet a therapist who sucks." For some reason I never considered this, and I went to this therapist and had this AWFUL experience and decided therapy wasn't for me, and someone had to tell me that sometimes therapists suck. Great advice!

[@jonathanwyman9402]

And sometimes they don't suck, but it just isn't the right... fit. They don't have to suck for it to not be helping.

[@whaddup5417]

We listen because we the majority of people tuning in think you’re naturally funny af, hella relatable, and bring a comedic tone to sports that shouldn’t JUST be on Barstool Sports. To hear you of all people be vulnerable and admit weaknesses kinda inspires me. Go kill it.

[@ericfrench7551]

Simply fantastic and real!

[@boboconnell861]

I echo man of the comment. The South Beach Session are his best product by far. And, it was very nice to catch up and hear Katie’s perspective on so many items. Missed her show, podcast etc. I hope we will still be entertained by her in the future.

[@3dougj]

Katie, having you talk about depression and all the ins and outs is so wonderful to hear from someone who is dealing with all the same issues. People who have never been depressed have no idea what it is like. So refreshing to hear your take on this topic. So wonderful to hear you both talk about difficult issues. Bless you both.

[@KillerRobot9]

Thank you Dan and Katie. Excellent coversation.

[@jester1176]

This is such a fantastic conversation. Thank you both for sharing so openly.

[@andrewvoegele2069]

Definitely been there with the feeling of losing myself in depression and anxiety. Feeling not like yourself or trying to re-see this new version of yourself. I’m sorry you’re going through that

[@SotoStuff]

So happy seeing Katie on Meadowlark stuff. She's so great

[@mcguffinsoundstudios1524]

How is this not the best interview of the year!

[@chrsclausen]

I love both of you so much. As a bartender and someone that went to school for the sports broadcasting field I have looked up to you both for your genuine approach within the medium. Thank you Katie and Dan for being and doing what you do!

[@Caliloki1]

“Love you, mean it” Katie. I hope when you are ready. You come back with a podcast/KZbin show on Dan’s Network. Miss it a lot.

[@RedRed-dx7iw]

Thanks Katie 🎉 for opening up!

[@danielcallahan94]

That was great. Vulnerable, and entertaining. Miss having Katie around, and an excited to have both her and Soder on lately.

[@davidellis5141]

Katie should be a star 🌟. ESPN did her no favors but its nice to hear her looking forward & not playing the blame game.

[@jonathanwyman9402]

Thanks you two for the most compelling 90 minutes I have enjoyed in months. Katie, I'm a huge fan. I'm sure the best is ahead of you, but thank you (both) for opening up in the realest way imaginable.

[@vchair23]

The part about the initial meadowlark offer is so good, I'm here now might leave further comment but it's so so good.

[@stefanharris659]

One of the best conversations I've ever listened to. You guys are amazing for being this open with each other and the audience. Thank you both.

[@christianfranklyn5062]

I always wanna listen to you Katie. Thank you so much for just being you.

[@fotoeins]

"This is what friends are for" may well be *the* tagline for Meadowlark. 👍🏽

[@tedmich]

33:15 FINALLY I understand Papi and how he fit into Highly Questionable!!Thank you SO MUCH DAN! And thanks Katie also for drawing this out of Dan! 54:05 thanks for the honest and heartfelt discussion Dan, its very touching to hear you describe your struggle.

[@bryanquinn31]

Katie truly is the best. I miss her pod so much and I'm so excited when she appears on other podcasts. I hope she has another pod like Sports? again soon.

[@OzyMandias13]

I don’t watch much but I’m a fan. Never seen this opening, but I dig it. That face Dan is making in the opening pic, is of a man contemplating, “fart or shart?” while mid-release, and I respect it.

[@juanescobedo5190]

Just watched the whole episode, Thank you Dan and Thank you Katie. I can relate much but in a totally different industry. It's a long road but we all do our best and with the grace of God we become better people. 👏👏👏👍

[@denvercoker4804]

I think what we've learned is that Dan needs to write out a very detailed and goal oriented contract for Katie by CoB TODAY!!!

[@Petes4G]

Another enlightening episode 🙏🏾 Katie and Dan thank you both for being vulnerable and sharing your stories.

[@WilPayne]

Garbage Time was a great show and i hope she gets to do it again one day if she wants

[@mattreed831]

What a treat to be able to sit in on a great conversation! Katie is and has always been what we sports consumers need to have access to. It's a shame that her early career was riddled with people that did not have her long term success as a priority. Katie, I am a fan of your contributions and hope that you can rise above these latest challenges. Sports is more fun when you are a part of its delivery to us fans!! Thank you for sharing the highs and lows your experiencing. Wishing you all the best!! 😊

[@sapreps6740]

This was a good listen. Dan is so good at finding the words that are hard to express, especially about depression.

[@XMund]

Garbage Time was FIRE. I remember that 10pm FOX sports spot.

[@Snakpakk]

I adore Katie Nolan and I can not wait for her next project. I miss her podcast, "Love you, mean it".

[@texas2398]

Dan is a genuinely good guy

[@mlittier]

Loved Katie from the Speed Rounds (and yes, the world is a better place that site is no longer around). It's been a lot of fun watching her career and growth!

[@sleepindog1826]

I want to fight every single person that makes this sweet lady sad. Most of us love you quietly Katie, "Love you, mean it"

[@travispowers9479]

I hope nothing but best for these 2 great folks.

[@cw2962]

so nice that Dan gets to talk to Katie

[@tonyreyes5256]

Thank you for this episode. Dan is really in the zone with these sessions. I was so happy to hear from Katie again. Garbage Time was one of my favorite shows. Looking forward to see where Katie goes next.

[@BigRobParty]

Dan! Were you chopping onions at the studio?! Man, you had me crying as well 😭 I relate to it, with my mom passing away, as well as being laid off twice in 2023. Nothing wrong with saying how you feel, and NOT understanding what exactly it is that you need. At least your spouse seems to understand & support your feelings. My wife isn't good at assisting with my emotions; makes her uncomfortable. I cry in my car....makes me feel better for the moment.

[@davekluge3923]

I'm just a small fry in the sports entertainment and content creation industry, but this was one of the best things I've ever watched.

[@beanthemachine17]

I have the same backseat driving recurring dream and loved this conversation + Katie on PTFO. Thank you Dan and Katie💛

[@tfive24]

When hq was still on air and Dan had left, espn, i still watched the show. Now that Bomani isn't at espn, I don't even turn to the station. I used to watch espn all the time too.

[@asceticblur]

Oh absolutely. ESPN is now just blowhards yelling at each other. It's completely unwatchable fore at this point.

[@cecilgriffin]

Great, great, interview Dan, Love ya Katie!!!!!

[@marcusrobinson-Live4Love]

Dan….. I deeply feel for you. My heart aches for you. Lost my sister in 2000 when she was only 34 years old. I’m now one year younger than you and unfortunately the “physical” hole is still in my soul. But what I can tell you is that if you keep living and moving forward that you and your family will be able to learn to live with it and remember the gift that you had while your brother was still on Earth. God bless you and your family. Hang in there.

[@adamquek1095]

Great show. So many vulnerable moment and perspectives. Thanks!

[@brianjauhiainen3954]

Wonderful. Thank you.

[@csmtcqueen]

This was a great conversation.

[@adamjones6228]

I love katie nolan, i am pulling for her to make a big comeback in sports media!

[@georgeparker8198]

Katie Nolan is so much different than i thoight she was and i dont mean that in any particular way, this was such a vulnerable interview and its nice to see someone not talk in corporate speak. She seems like such a real person who has fears and flaws and a raw realness to her that i really appreciate. This was a fantastic interview!

[@batzxxl]

Love Katie's work. Funny, smart and knowledgeable. I never thought she was a good fit for the ratings grind at ESPN. She needs a platform where she can showcase her authentic sense of humor, find her audience and not be restricted by the numbers geeks. Would love to see her get a gig at Meadowlark.

[@thegusdad]

I love Katie and am so glad to finally hear her side of the story. I can't wait for her to "find a job" so she can once again be a scheduled part of my life, as opposed to her just dropping in whenever Dan or Pablo asks.

[@doomsdayd3509]

My two favorite people in sports! Loved this!

[@theragingdolphinsmaniac4696]

Outstanding episode

[@josephbriggs9790]

great interview, love Katie work.

[@jamilbelle]

Always felt Katie was a special talent. Just needs to be utilized properly 💯

[@trekker1303]

Love Katie and the work she has done. It was an informative listen to hear how her career evolved and how her mind works. I cannot wait to see what she does next and I hope that Meadowlark is involved in some way, would be like a homecoming. :)

[@E.G.3]

Man I love SBS another excellent episode and I can't wait for Dan to do one on his life and this experience as someone who's watched/listened since ESPN days & who didn't know Lebo. I would Love to know who Lebo was as a person/artist, when the time is right.....SBS Dan Lebatard 🙏🏾

[@RedRed-dx7iw]

I care Katie! Thank you again!

[@bjark23]

Love the real talk! I have to say a Dan and Dan (Soder) conversation would be great!

[@vibhishraghuraman9593]

I remember as soon as Katie left ESPN, I was all in on the "Bring Katie to Meadowlark" train. Bit sad to hear that it was in the works but fell through, but now that hard feelings are resolved.... #KATIENOLANTOMEADOWLARK

[@Metfan722]

I remember those updates that Katie is talking about around 10 minutes in. As someone who was a regular listener and viewer of Mike'd Up/Mike's On on WFAN, back when it was on FS1 (God, what a disaster that pairing was), every so often, about 20-30 minutes, they would have sports flashes giving you some of the latest headlines. And one of the anchors who became well regarded within Mongo Nation (what Francesa fans call ourselves), was Julie Stewart-Binks, whom I believe has gone on to become good friends with Kaite.

[@Metfan722]

Also, since the topic came up, I don't think something like a live game of baseball was a good fit for her skillset. I feel like this comes across as pigeon-holing her but she's at her best doing pre-recorded stuff and unfortunately a live game doesn't work like that.

[@treyfitz-gerald6921]

Amazing honesty & vulnerability from two of the best to do this, especially doing it the right way in an age of contrived fake debate and hot take BS

[@chrisinthe305]

She nailed it about getting mental illness medication and the constant testing and side effects. I appreciated this episode a lot.

[@chrisrodriguez2244]

The description of the work/depression dynamic as “playing music to drown out a podcast you don’t want to listen to” was quite profound and accurate. Ask for/ seek help if you need it your life does in fact have value

[@brightnewideas2183]

Loved the interview.

[@nupuonline]

Thank you for sharing so frankly your experiences with depression

[@redking2866]

My favorite show on DKN content.

[@moneymarc7708]

That dramatic intro is hilarious 😂

[@nailbanger2]

I didnt know Katie had chronic depression. Very sad to hear it. I also know the absolute worst that can happen, and i really dont want to think about a world without Katie Nolan. I hope she wins Celebrity Jeopardy!

[@csmtcqueen]

Grief never goes away. Don't put a deadline on it. It just changes forms over time.

[@davidburke324]

Great episode, I love Katie! Fyi, the book "The Untethered Soul" helped me with depression and I think it's a good book of spirituality. It's all about the "self" and not the outside forces. I highly recommend it.

[@rodstudemire6966]

I luv Katie Nolan id watch listen or follow her anywheres. Very authentic young lady