***Correction*** The KDP110 uses the RHCII, which is an updated version of the RHC with a triple sensor. In regards to my use of the term "semi-weighted": I used this term to describe that the RHC action feels lighter than that of the RHIII. I now understand that the term "semi-weighted" has a different denotation than I Initially realized. Thanks for all of your comments and feedback!
@dennthecorrector64783 жыл бұрын
Hi Louise, I'm the Piano Manager of KAWAI Vietnam (Viet Thuong Music) I truly appreciate your dedicated work on this video. the term "semi-weighted" is usually used for MIDI Controller, subscribing the key-weight for specific models for specific music producer. I totally understand that term, you've meant the different weight of each action, it's okay then, because obviously the RHC is much lighter than Grand Feel Series :D
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
@@dennthecorrector6478 Hi Dennis, nice to meet you! Thank you for your comment and for the clarification.
@fuglbird Жыл бұрын
@@cesar_m.p. Standards for measuring the forces needed to press piano keys were developed centuries ago. Just ask your local piano tuner - or use the internet.
@cesar_m.p. Жыл бұрын
@@fuglbird At this day, you can visit any piano manufacturer website and I dare you to show me which one shows the forces in grams needed to move the keys for any specific model, either as an average, or octave by octabe basis. You usually get those measures from people who bought it, then measure it, but it is not published.
@van_dylan Жыл бұрын
@@cesar_m.p. You are absolutely right, I have been a pianist and keyboardist for 20 years but I took a break and I don't have a grand piano at home while almost two months ago I started again to play complex classical music with fast passages but I have a clavinova from the 90s that I felt so heavy and I have never felt so fatigued and with slight pain in the joint, I ordered the weight down from the C4 and it had 78 Grams !! but the surprise is that all the keys, including black, weigh the same, they are not even graduated, I went to a grand piano at my children's school and played like butter, the C4 downwards I only need 47 grams and the keyboard is obviously graduated. I felt bad in my old DP that I bought not long ago on eBay and I was almost on the verge of an injury I could say if I didn't stop, I tried the recommended Roland FP30x in a store and I felt the action was more relaxed and very good grip but I still felt it heavy for that repertoire, for softer repertoire it's super, the C4 below, low with 67 grams so I'm looking to invest in a better action that's more similar to a piano because we know it's not what yourself, what do you think about it? Greetings from Germany
@PollyPocketmusic3 жыл бұрын
This is EXTREMELY helpful. Amazing visuals and clear “instructions” if you will. I’ve been trying to develop my own 3D model of piano keys, but I’ve been stuck on how to get an action going on. This video really helped me visualize how these things work. Thanks so much
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like such a cool project! Glad this was helpful to you :)
@theroninpianist44433 жыл бұрын
Thank you! It is very interesting to see how these actions work internally.
@Ernestasish3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting comparison of the actions!
@mmilrl57682 жыл бұрын
I ordered a kawai ca79 4 months ago and it’s still back ordered. A big reason why I ordered it is because of the action, so I’m just here watching videos on the action to feed my sadness and impatience haha
@ynotttt2 жыл бұрын
I’m curious….did you get it yet? How long did it take from beginning to getting it?
@mmilrl57682 жыл бұрын
@@ynotttt Nope :(. I was told end of May, but they still haven’t given me an ETA
@ynotttt2 жыл бұрын
@@mmilrl5768 ….that’s what I’m concerned about….it might be next year. I don’t see any CA59’s anywhere around Chicago area. So….I sure won’t find a CA79.
@SirKintaros3 жыл бұрын
Very impressed with your videos ! Calm demeanor, precisely spoken information!
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words! Glad that you're enjoying the videos.
@alico7972 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation!... I was about to try to fix an electronic piano but had no idea about the differences between the different types of hammer actions... thank you very much for this valuable information!
@doremifasollatido22553 жыл бұрын
It's been 2 months when I commented on your video for suggestion. I would like to thank you for giving me an idea of the Kawai digital piano actions. I purchased Kawai ES110 last week and I was really happy about it and with no regrets. Although I wish Kawai ES920 or ES520 was available on our region but ES110 is still an excellent choice for me. Before buying ES110 I did a lot of research and comparison. Side by side playing of the instrument and these were my observation. The ES110's key action is fully-weighted but slightly lighter than Yamaha's GHS action and Roland's PH4 action. But does not mean Kawai is behind the competition. If I rate the weight of these pianoes from 1-10 (10 the heaviest) 10. Roland FP-30 (PH4) 9. Yamaha P125 (GHS) 8.5 Kawai ES110 (RHC) 5. Yamaha DGX-230 (Semi-Weighted Graded Keys) I also included a Yamaha DGX keyboard to compare the weight as well from a fully weight digital piano and semi-weighted keyboard. RHC action feels like an upright acoustic piano but a little bouncy and short keybed. GHS feels like artificial and springy but it is somewhere in the middle of a grand and upright mechanism. PH4 with escapement feels like a grand piano but too heavy and can be too tiresome for hours but the ivory and ebony touches are its forte. But these actions that I mentioned are still acceptable and nice. The reason I purchased Kawai ES110 is the sound quality and sound sample plus the dynamic range. The RHC could be bouncy but still tolerable and forgiving and I also learned and practiced before piano on an old Kawai upright maybe that's why preferred Kawai. It could still be a personal preference since my teacher have Yamaha upright piano and also preferred a GHS action than RHC or PH4.
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your detailed comment! I'm glad that the ES110 is working well for you!
@MrJereJo-Gaming3 жыл бұрын
You deserve more subs. If i see how much efoort you have puy in this video. Very nice and ibteresting 💯👌🏾
@InnerPeaceSounds3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation and demonstration, thank you very much!
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your feedback!
@riloh582 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. Do you have similar videos for other piano bed actions (Fatar, Yamaha etc)? Just off to check your channel videos. This should be standard content for these manufacturers. Once you are getting up to the price point that these boards go for I would expect most people would want to know all the details about how their prospective board works. Thank you for this content. Very clearly explained and very much appreciated.
@ChurchWorshipandvideo2 жыл бұрын
Yes comparing these would be very helpful!
@joethegreenАй бұрын
Great comparison. I would point out though that the GrandFeel Compact key length is the exact same as the RHIII if we measure it from the pivot point. Many prefer that RHIII action compared to the GFC.
@mauriyamayamauri81483 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing it. Really well-detailed and informative video.
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@rafaelgomez19892 жыл бұрын
VERY VERY PROFESIONAL & DETAILED EXPLANATION....THANK YOU !!!!
@wtpwtp4 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation. Thank you!
@BayAreaPianoMasters4 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Eric-om2xs3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a very informative video. Just an FYI: in the synth/MIDI controller world the word semi-weighted implies that springs are used and there is no hammer action at all. I would suggest finding a different word to describe the RHC action in the future.
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that feedback! What you're saying makes sense. I am still learning, and appreciate the correction.
@joost56093 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see these models and learn about the differences. I will be saving for C79 or C99 then.
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
I've really enjoyed playing on both those models, so I hope either one is a good fit for you! Thanks for watching :)
@ajotech2 ай бұрын
Excellent detailed video thank you so much.
@BayAreaPianoMasters2 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@JeffRyan_88keys2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I could listen to you talk all day. What a beautiful tone of voice you have, and I love the blue hair. :)
@BayAreaPianoMasters2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@LionelHeir16 күн бұрын
Thanx for making this video
@BayAreaPianoMasters14 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@home-studio-improvement24 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@WoodyPianoShack4 жыл бұрын
very informative. thanks for this!
@BayAreaPianoMasters4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@cptmaca2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the excellent explanation!
@Khora3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Thank you.,
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@azrulawanghassim15532 жыл бұрын
After watching this video, i decided to buy steinway model D grand piano..thank you
@yuzuruvevo8693 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading
@DavidIzquierdoAzzouz3 жыл бұрын
Well explained, thanks
@simonetormen4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thank you. It would also be useful to make a comparison of yamaha action.
@BayAreaPianoMasters4 жыл бұрын
We sell only Kawai pianos at this time, but I agree, that would be useful!
@crazyRyoga4 жыл бұрын
Yamaha sadly doesn't provide much informations about their actions, beside the name.
@hfaouzi43322 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Thank a lot.
@omzchannel85203 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Great keyfeel topic.🎹👍
@AlansPiano2 жыл бұрын
Big thanks for this video!!!!!🥰
@pianoforteyt3 жыл бұрын
Wow 🤩 What an interesting video! I have a Yamaha piano but this is so cool! 😁
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@namakudamono3 жыл бұрын
Good job Louise! Clear and informative explanation. Hopefully Kawai America can send you a GFIII action sample soon!
@Oleg__3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say a video that contains a few false claims is a good job. For example, false information that the GFII and GFIII actions have different length of keysticks. It is completely incomprehensible where this misconception could have come to mind.
@namakudamono3 жыл бұрын
Oleg Well, Louise mentioned that she doesn’t currently have access to a GFIII action sample, which may account for the key length inaccuracy. However, I maintain that the vast majority of information in this video is correct and clearly presented. “Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good” etc.
@Oleg__3 жыл бұрын
@@namakudamono I also never had access to a new action, but I knew from the first day of the announcement that in this regard, both actions are identical. You can also look at other comments here to understand that this was not the only inaccuracy in this short video. For a person representing Kawai instruments, this is critical. Need to prepare better. Or at least not invent something that doesn't exist.
@user-em3fe2wy1t6 ай бұрын
The Korg action is partially a spring loaded action. This is a very old design. The Kawai’s RHIII works purely on gravity as it is shown in this video.
@BayAreaPianoMasters5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your insights!
@hpropaul2 ай бұрын
very good, very clear explanation, thanks so much, do you have Yamaha's Graded Hammer demo?
@BayAreaPianoMasters2 ай бұрын
I wish! I have yet to come across any Yamaha action demos.
@PianoandKeysStudio2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this excellent very detailed video. Frequently I've been asked to compare the actions of Kawai instruments after having bought a VPC1 last year and I've been unable to provide detailed answers, so I hope you don't mind if I reference this video next time I'm asked?
@rreinhardt2393 Жыл бұрын
Hi, is there any place that i can buy those physical action models?
@BayAreaPianoMasters Жыл бұрын
To my knowledge, these are just sent to piano dealers as promotional materials. So I don't think they're available for purchase anywhere.
@townnet3 жыл бұрын
Hi, can you do Yamaha Action comparison?
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I don't have access to Yamaha actions at this time
@ralphhardie74922 жыл бұрын
Superb content
@BayAreaPianoMasters2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@johnbishop53163 жыл бұрын
At 42 seconds, the hammer is bouncing after it has struck, The action needs regulating. The set off is happening too late.
@DavidCDeja2 ай бұрын
Not one maker of actions quotes the note repetition rate of a single note, which as a pianist, I find terribly frustrating. Surely it should be a metric which accompanies any action sold? I have a bunch of Fatar TP/x 88noters here in Kurzweils, and they are all 2 switch, and (sorry Fatar), but for me they are too slow where note repetition is concerned (more like an upright cf. a grand), forcing ornaments instead. Is there a drop in upgrade for the action? Perhaps a nice Fatar triple switch GH action with >12notes/second repettition? Roll on the day when upgrading an action is a DIY exercise. It would be about time. Didn't do the PC market any harm to sell users the components to build their own.
@AndrewColyerMusic3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this excellent video! What about the Kawai VPC1? Where does that action fall in this lineup? Thank you so much. - Andrew Colyer, New York
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback! The VPC1 uses the RM3 Grand II action, which is an earlier version of the Grand Feel Action. So it would fall between the Grand Feel Compact and the Grand Feel action series. You can see a picture and a description of the RM3 Grand II action at this link: kawaius.com/technology/wooden-key-actions/
@fraub13 жыл бұрын
Hi. I like your videos. Very informative! Would you mind making a similar video for the Yamaha digital piano actions?
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! If I had access to Yamaha actions, I would love to. But the store I work for specializes in Kawai only.
@MrJereJo-Gaming3 жыл бұрын
@@BayAreaPianoMasters i wamted to ask yhr same thing
@sternenherz3 жыл бұрын
I hope the difference between the action of the MP11SE and the newer actions isn't that big, cause i want to buy the mp11se -and not wait for a follow-up model in the future :D
@lucacagnolati55304 жыл бұрын
Grazie!
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@grim83913 жыл бұрын
Interesting video!
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@heribertojaramillo4 ай бұрын
What about the Kawai RM3ii system action please!!!???
@DihelsonMendonca3 жыл бұрын
You see that the key is "trembling" when she touches ( 03:06 ). That doesn´t happen on a real acoustic piano. I´m searching for an excellent piano action. It should have the acoustic touch, but I´ve played some Steinway pianos and the touch is excellent, very light, the fingers "fly" in speed, not as some acoustic pianos which are too hard and hurt my pulses and turns me lazy to play fast passages on classical music.
@ferexx3 жыл бұрын
actually even acoustic piano trembles. search for video of Steinway action and you can see subtle trembling and even more on lesser brands. anyways, why even compare it with a Steinway that cost 30 times more? also in your own reply, you basically said not all acoustic pianos have the same action so by that account i am pretty confident you can find some others that "trembles" too
@henrikpettersson28863 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know of the RHC action for the es110 uses Lead or steel as a weight? Tried to find info online but couldnt find any info about the material used in the action. Thus was a wery infornative video by the way. Thx. :)
@henrikpettersson28862 жыл бұрын
It doesn't contain lead:) I wrote to Kawaii and asked.
@guidodelgiudice56 ай бұрын
Wonder if anybody know differences between kawaii RHC and the Korg RH3 action. I am between Korg lp380 and kawaii kdp75
@CarstenGoeke2 жыл бұрын
Very informative Video. So thanks for this. Where do you rate the action of the VPC-1 (RM3 Grand II) ✌🏼
@BayAreaPianoMasters2 жыл бұрын
That's a great question! I have not seen a RM3 Grand II action in person, but from info on Kawai's website and in PianoManChuck's video, it looks like the RM3 uses similar components as the original Grand Feel Action, but has a shorter keystick. Hope this helps! kawaius.com/technology/wooden-key-actions/
@CarstenGoeke2 жыл бұрын
@@BayAreaPianoMasters Thanks! Interesting! ✌🏼
@pocoapoco2 Жыл бұрын
I'd really like to see Kawai produce a version of the vpc-1 with a real grand action like their novus hybrids.
@BayAreaPianoMasters Жыл бұрын
That's an interesting thought! Having a full acoustic action like is in the NV5S and 10S requires more space, so I'm not sure if it could fit into a portable model like the vpc-1
@hussamasmar3 жыл бұрын
RHC is not Semi-weighted, it is graded hammer weighted
@hussamasmar3 жыл бұрын
I am afraid your information is not accurate. This is scaled/graded hammer weighted action and not semi weighted. The RHii has counter weights and triple sensors. The RHC is weighted with double sensors. Semi weighted is a term referring usually to piano like keys with springs in the back. (Spring based action)
@evenaicantfigurethisout2 жыл бұрын
which action system on the market now has the most true-to-life (i.e. real grand) action?
@neon_one3 жыл бұрын
The bounce of the hammer returning to rest kind of inhibits your ability to imagine how the key press might feel. At least for me. 3:05 looks cool though
@ferexx3 жыл бұрын
the said bounce is not uncommon even on grand piano
@lukidoki99053 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@normandang26983 жыл бұрын
Iam going to get CA17 with RM3 Grand II, what actually will this key action perform compare to those in the videos? Thank you
@ktech42462 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video, which action would closely resemble an upright piano? Currently have a yamaha P125 but notice a big difference when I jump onto a real piano hence looking for recommendations.
@BayAreaPianoMasters Жыл бұрын
An upright piano action is different than these actions that are modeled more after grand piano actions. An upright action features a mechanism where the hammer moves forward (rather than upward) to strike the string. I would look for a digital piano with a longer wooden keystick for a more even weight distribution as you go up and down the key.
@cesar_m.p. Жыл бұрын
Which other brands, not Kawaii, features that nice "grand feel action" keybed? The ones with long keys.
@BayAreaPianoMasters Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure! To my knowledge, other brands like Yamaha and Roland make digital pianos that use an action more similar to the RHIII but with wood veneers on the sides. I'm curious to hear what other commenters know!
@SilverSpur13 жыл бұрын
Hi, can you tell me pls. how many grams weight have Kawai MP-11 keys downwards, and what is the max. repetition frequency in Hertz for this action (Kawai's Grand Feel compact action) (should be minimum 15 Hz)? Szabi from Transylvania
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
I will have to get back to you on this! Any info I find out, I will post here.
@SilverSpur13 жыл бұрын
@@bayareamindandmusicsociety8020 First of all thank you sooo much for your efforts! Yes I meant down-weight of the keys. I dont get it yet, so is it 62 or is it 55 grams. Yes, by frequency I meant max. repetitions of key per second. The value 12 suprises me, grand acoustic pianos have 15 Hz. I heard the Kawai MP-11 has one of the heaviest keys, and I have weak fragile fingers. I am searching for a high-to-mid range digital piano, with the lightest keys (smallest down-weight), but the choice is really just between Roland PHA-50 and Kawai Grand Feel. Next september or christmas I am gonna have enough money to buy one. I did already a music school 25 years ago, that was synthesizer and for gigs, but now I want to do the classical pianist all the way to conservatory admission level. But I won't be a stage pianist, nor conservatory, I learn it for my own joy, so I can play pieces for myself and enjoy it. Thanks again for your efforts.
@SilverSpur13 жыл бұрын
And you are beautiful..
@actie-reactie3 жыл бұрын
👍thanks
@sigma_z7 ай бұрын
So the CA77 and CA79 uses te grand feel action 3? CA78 and 98 uses grand feel 2?
@BayAreaPianoMasters7 ай бұрын
CA78/98 use Grand Feel 2; CA79/99/701/901 use Grand Feel 3
@fevermusica72773 жыл бұрын
Do these types of KAWAI mechanism have LEAD parts or as counterweights? I hope the Lead has been eliminated because it is toxic. In real wooden pianos (it seems to me more in the grand ones and less in the vertical ones, where perhaps they are not on the sides but more in depth) I have seen that on the sides the keys are full of these Lead button disc counterweights. What can You tell me? And which brands have banned it? Thank You.
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
To clarify, none of Kawai's digital piano actions use lead counterweights. Counterweights are typically made of lead or steel. Counterweights are placed inside of the key, meaning there is no possible contact with the person playing the piano. Lead poisoning can occur from lead getting into the body through water or food contamination or from breathing in dust from deteriorating lead-based paint. Lead poisoning does not occur from playing a piano that has lead or steel pieces built into its keysticks.
@eddygan3256 ай бұрын
Is it ES120 and KDP75, KDP120 almost the same piano feeling and sound when play ?
@BayAreaPianoMasters6 ай бұрын
Yes, I'd say the touch is similar. The KDP120 has a slightly more advanced action technically because of the triple sensor. The ES120 and KDP75 use the same action. The KDP75 and KDP120 have 15 sounds to choose from, while the ES120 has 25.
@vitalybedros767823 күн бұрын
How much noise actions produce? I need the quiter one to play in headphones without boring other people in the room.
@BayAreaPianoMasters23 күн бұрын
The CA piano actions (GFC and Grand Feel III) are the quietest! If you're wanting more info, feel free to email me at specials@sanmateopiano.com
@vitalybedros767823 күн бұрын
@@BayAreaPianoMasters , yes, I today played Kawai MP11SE - it is even quieter than CA901, because has no cabinet to resonate. Very quiet, gently and soft keyboard. Loved it from the first touch.
@3775593 жыл бұрын
What about durability? Which kawai key action system will last the longest before one or more parts breaks or wears out? I have seen cases on other brands where one of the plastic components breaks (presumably from frequent use) resulting in the need for a replacement. And while I am on this subject, how easy is it to obtain spare parts in order to make repairs? I ask because I am thinking of purchasing the CA79 and would like to believe that the keys would last at least 10-15 years of regular use before they are damaged in this way. Currently, I own a Roland KR-570 purchased 20 years ago and only now are the plastic mechanisms beginning to fail.
@ferexx3 жыл бұрын
my experience is rather limited, but putting aside failure of sensor and circuitry which there is no way to tell, I expect a Kawai action to be quite durable from a purely mechanical point of view. In fact the major manufacturers like Kawai, Yamaha and Roland use quite similar layout. if you look at the middle of the keys right above the sensor, the protruding plastic piece is pressed into a cup of sort. This seem to be a more robust design and easier to find a fix if it breaks. In my opinion, this type of design has the potential to be far more robust than Casio's design (google a video of their action to see what i mean) where a similar plastic protrusion is found but is used to house a rubber bits that drives the lever to hit the sensor. Damage to the rubber piece would cause the key to sink. There is much greater range of movement needed for the Casio design and putting a rubber knob over the plastic point meant that you probably need the exact part for replacement compared to the key-bed from the other companies where you just need to find something to line the cup. I think Casio's design is the closest to a "digitalization" of a acoustic piano as far as plastic action goes. But that is not to say that it is better simply because the pivot length is completely different. if we look at Kawai's Grand Feel action we can see how having long key length reduces the need for complexity which is not the case for Casio. The mechanical analysis is ofcoz my 2 cent worth and I would be glad to be proven wrong. But all that being said, I think the keys across all brands should be pretty robust and would last many years of use. But 10-15 years is really pushing it to be honest.
@grahamhall28213 жыл бұрын
Don't do it, purchased CA78, developed problem with sticking keys after 2 and half years, support from Kawai very bad.
@abath07 Жыл бұрын
The RHC is nicely weighted. It is misleading to claim that it is almost unweighted.
@jsanchezguerra10 ай бұрын
I play with KORG ex88 but I look for a new one with touch similar my ex upright piano. Vpc1 , or keyboard with PHA50 as Roland FP90X or NWX system? Could vpc1 be a good election ? I need only the keyboard without furniture and use Pianotec8. Thanks
@BayAreaPianoMasters10 ай бұрын
I think the VPC1 or the MP11SE could be a good option for you! They both have the fully wooden keys with an extended length, so the touch is quite nice!
@jsanchezguerra10 ай бұрын
@@BayAreaPianoMasters thank you. Do you know if vpc1 has problems with the pedals? I have seen several comments about it
@williamgroener91543 жыл бұрын
I read that the MP12 will have GF 3 action when it comes out next year. Rumor or possibly true?
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
I haven't heard about that, but I think it would be a smart move on Kawai's part to do that!
@SilasJager2 ай бұрын
Hi, i bought a se 920 and for me its action is not heavy enough. I Wonder if its possible to somehow make the keys heavier? Hope anyone can help…
@BayAreaPianoMasters2 ай бұрын
Have you tried adjusting the touch curve settings?
@SilasJager2 ай бұрын
@@BayAreaPianoMasters Yes, but that hardly makes a difference . I need to prepare for a performance on a grand, which has really heavy keys…
@pedrolavigne9718 Жыл бұрын
We own a Kawaii manufactured piano that has a Renner piano action. Are these still used in currently manufactured pianos?
@BayAreaPianoMasters Жыл бұрын
Kawai uses the Millennium III action in their current production for acoustic pianos, and all their own models of digital key actions. I actually have not heard of Renner actions being used by Kawai before! What model of Kawai do you have that uses Renner?
@pedrolavigne9718 Жыл бұрын
@@BayAreaPianoMasters The Kawaii manufactured piano with the Renner piano action was sold under the brand Scheidmayer. So it was in North America.
@ghaze.c4official2 жыл бұрын
Is the casio px 160 RHC hammer action
@metallema82313 жыл бұрын
i wish yamaha made a video like this i have a ypd 144 anyone know which action from kawai may be similar to the one used in my piano?
@philipbrown2225 Жыл бұрын
whats absolutely hilarious about this is how no one can replicate old technology using new technology. Yes, things are always improving
@tjarsun5 ай бұрын
It's all about what do you want it for. There are keyboards designed to be light to touch but have the fastest "reset" moving up so you can play it repeatedly easier, great for electronic music and organ playing, awful feeling for classical players. Newer tech made cheaper actions feel closer and closer to real acoustic pianos. To the extreme of some hybrid pianos having the same keyboard mechanisms as a concert grand, but using sensors instead of strings. Not cheap tech, but really advanced!
@E.Bernay5 ай бұрын
🤓🤓🤓🤓
@rex6rocks3 ай бұрын
What's funny in that? 😅 I guess you're too unaware about tech today. Have you seen novus 5 and 10?
@leonardw5487Ай бұрын
You can bring your old technology easily around??? And play with headphones at night without costing a bomb? You are the hilarious one
@aaa-yc1no3 жыл бұрын
What action does the Kawai Pw 300 have??
@doremifasollatido22553 жыл бұрын
Is Kawai ES110 keys action are semi-weighted like the Yamaha DGX-530 keys? I owned a Yamaha DGX-220 with semi-weighted keys andI'm planning to buy a digital piano with weighted keys. One of my option is Kawai ES110.
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
I'm hesitant to use the term semi-weighted again (see the comments below). But in my opinion, the ES110 key action feels lightly weighted to me. If you're looking for a portable keyboard with a more advanced action with keys that are more weighted, I would recommend looking at the ES520 or 920. There is an increase in price point, but I would consider both the actions on these pianos to be better than that of the ES110.
@doremifasollatido22553 жыл бұрын
@@BayAreaPianoMasters Thanks for the recommendation. When you mentioned that Kawai ES110 has a semi-weighted keys. I first thought that it was just the same with the Yamaha DGX-230/530 action as Yamaha stated on the paper.. Since I owned a Yamaha DGX-230 and wanted to upgrade to a digital piano with 88 weighted keys. I never tried or seen a Kawai digital piano( Although I was able to play on a Kawai Grand Acoustic Piano and Kawai Upright Piano) since it is not readily available on our region and we have to preorder it from a music shop. But ES110 was one of option second is a Yamaha P125 and Roland FP-30. I was able to play Roland FP-30 and Yamaha P125 which is also my options aside from Kawai ES110. But after watching several reviews about Kawai ES110. I was impressed with its dynamic range and sound but the downside is the light keys. Which made me wonder on "How light are the keys? is it the same as the the Yamaha DGX-230/530 model which I owned right now". I might reconsider to upgrade to a higher version if I will not be impress by the keys and action after seeing and touching it personally.
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
@@doremifasollatido2255 I haven't done a comparison between the Yamaha and Roland models and the ES110, so I'm not sure how the feeling of the keys compare. Our store just carries Kawai at this time, so that's all I have readily available to me. In any case, it sounds like you're doing a lot of research, so I hope you find a piano that works well for you!
@brunolacerda46112 ай бұрын
Witch keys does VPC 1 uses? It's better than the CA59?
@BayAreaPianoMasters2 ай бұрын
The VPC1 uses the RM3 Grand II Action, which is a predecessor to the Grand Feel III Action. I have not played a VPC1 in a long time, so I don't know how I would compare the action to the GFC action found in the CA59.
@reborn75772 жыл бұрын
Nice video. How about kpd 120? Thank you
@BayAreaPianoMasters Жыл бұрын
The KDP120 uses the RHCII. It is like the RHC, but it has a triple sensor and an improved cushion material.
@pingchianleong25083 жыл бұрын
Hi, i am upgrading my keyboard to piano actions however i am lack of budget to buy an acoustic piano as advised by my piano teacher. May i know if ES110 type of action is sufficient for my finger touch and pressure training (as if i am playing an acoustic piano)?
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure which keyboard you're currently practicing on, but even though the ES110 has a more simple action, it has 88 grade-weighted keys. The keys are touch-responsive meaning that you can control the volume of the sound that's produced by pressing with more or less pressure with your fingers. What type of keyboard do you currently have?
@pingchianleong25083 жыл бұрын
@@BayAreaPianoMasters a very old casio wk1800
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
@@pingchianleong2508 I think the es110 will be a nice upgrade in regards to the key-touch and weighting and because it has the full 88 keys. I hope you find a new keyboard that works well for you!
@pingchianleong25083 жыл бұрын
@@BayAreaPianoMasters thank you very much for your advice!
@Javaslinger77303 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure Kaiwai would appreciate you calling the RHC Semi-Weighted. That is certainly not what they advertise.
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. I used the phrase "semi-weighted" to highlight that the weighting of the RHC is different than that of the RHIII. Eric (the commenter above) offered a similar suggestion, and I appreciate the feedback.
@jobcabillon44912 жыл бұрын
Hey, just wanna ask where and how can you buy those keys? Please reply, I want to get one. Thanks
@anonymanonym12432 жыл бұрын
I'm also interested:-)
@BayAreaPianoMasters Жыл бұрын
To my knowledge, the key action models are only available to Kawai piano dealers.
@watchingyoutube73302 жыл бұрын
Are you aware of any high quality keyboards or digital pianos that will show you the chord that you are playing on the LCD screen?
@BayAreaPianoMasters2 жыл бұрын
Hmm I'm not sure about that! I would imagine that there may be an app that could assist with identifying a chord you're playing, though.
@juanjor2379 Жыл бұрын
which system is better?
@verymozart2 жыл бұрын
I read that the hammer action of the keys of KAWAI KDP 120 is just basic. So not the best for advanced pianists. Is that true? Are the key too softly weighted for advanced classical music piano practice??
@BayAreaPianoMasters2 жыл бұрын
I agree that the KDP120 action is more basic--it uses Kawai's Responsive Hammer Compact II Action (which is a predecessor to Kawai's most current plastic key action, the Responsive Hammer III). If you're looking for a higher quality action, I would recommend the CA49 since it is still at somewhat of a mid-range price point and uses longer wooden keysticks.
@verymozart2 жыл бұрын
@@BayAreaPianoMasters CA 49, you think is fine for advanced practice? But it's expensive for my budget, even because you have to include the costs of the stool, the headphone and to install it it costs as far as £ 250. I saw now there's a bit cheaper Kawai CN39, that states has hammer action III, but l don't know. Or maybe Kawai CN29? I'm a bit discouraged honestly, because it seems l won't find a digital piano for my needs within my budget 😔. Thanks for your reply
@BayAreaPianoMasters2 жыл бұрын
@@verymozart The piano bench comes in the bundle with the CA49, but, yes, headphones would be an additional cost. In the U.S., the CA49 retails for $2299 USD and the CN29 retails for $1959 USD. (I have a CA49 at home, and I completed the assembly with 1 other person on our own. It's a little time-consuming, but it can be done :) ). The CN29 and CN39 use the same action--the 39 has upgrades to the speakers, sound selection, and the Bluetooth connection. I'm not sure what your budget is, but purchasing a portable piano will typically bring down the cost of the piano. The Kawai ES920 uses the same action as the CN29 and 39, but it costs $1599 USD. It doesn't come with a stand and bench, though. Even though the KDP120 has a more basic action, it still is better than the action of the ES110 (which uses Kawai's most basic action, the Responsive Hammer Compact). Hope this helps!
@verymozart2 жыл бұрын
@@BayAreaPianoMastersthanks for replying. I think KDP 120 is too entry level and the Hammer action too basic for advanced practice. O can't afford CA 49. All l'm trying to find out now is if the CN39 (with Hammer Action III, full weighted keys, and high polyphony 255,) is appropriate for advanced classical music piano practice. That would be within my budget. I found a dealer here in the UK with a nice price, included: bench headphone, 5 yrs guarantee, (plus £180 to assemble/install it, l live alone and can't assemble the top without someone else). And in 3 interests free payments.
@BlueEyeTableRockLake2 жыл бұрын
Very nice, As an Acoustic Piano Tech I'm having a hard time finding anything on the older Kawai CP series actions with some of the first wooden keys. I need to find the plastic parts that the counter weights pivot in For a CP-150 . As well as the pads if still available. Besides the broken part some of the notes sound louder then others, I think that is the pads or just dirty. Any help pointing me in the right direction would be appreciated.
@BayAreaPianoMasters2 жыл бұрын
In regards to the some notes sounding louder than others, it sounds like there is an issue with some of the sensors. I am not sure where you're located but you may try contacting the parts department at Kawai directly for the parts you are in need of. You can ask for David Reed and see if he can assist you. Kawai's number is listed on their website.
@JonArgencam Жыл бұрын
0:08 where can i buy these salesman kawaii key samples ?
@BayAreaPianoMasters Жыл бұрын
They're not for sale, unfortunately. They are sent to Kawai dealers as promotional materials.
@n33oh2 жыл бұрын
Do you have this for Korg, Roland, and Yamaha?
@BayAreaPianoMasters Жыл бұрын
I wish! We are a Kawai dealer, so we do not have access to action models of other brands.
@verymozart2 жыл бұрын
Is the Grand Feel III suitable for practicing advanced level of classical music in order to study for diploma level??
@ispianist8 ай бұрын
Yes. You should know that even all acoustic pianos have different weight and tone. So is never gonna be the same. Some pianos can be adjusted to a lighter key action.
@verymozart8 ай бұрын
@@ispianist doesn't matter. The grand feel action 3 is what it is, unsubstantial, unrealistically light, spongy, not firm. It's true every acoustic is different, but there are not acoustic lighter or more or spongy as the kawai GF3. No you can't change the action, the weight of the keys of a digital piano action can't change. I suppose you mean the touch response, that basically it changes the touch force required to obtain the same sound. But that is not the weight of the keys that changes.
@ispianist8 ай бұрын
@@verymozart No I meant the weight when your press the keys on acoustic piano. Yes you can change that. I've done that couple times. These pianos truly feel like a grand piano. I have played with many Steinway pianos and I own myself the Studiologic GT. The feel is very similar when you press the keys. On the other hand the sound is not the same. But I use VST.
@verymozart8 ай бұрын
@@ispianist but the grand feel 3 action is quite rubbish, it's all but an acoustic feel.. It's like a toy, nothing to do with an acoustic piano touch action
@ispianist8 ай бұрын
@@verymozart I haven't tried that one yet but I been wanting to. I own the Studiologic Numa GT and is the closest to an acoustic piano.
@anandacarpenter1282 жыл бұрын
menarik banget
@brunolacerda46112 ай бұрын
Please update
@Joshua-xm1hk3 жыл бұрын
anyone knows how the rhc2 compares to the rhc3
Жыл бұрын
Is "ivory touch" made of actual ivory? (Vegan so negative for me.)
@BayAreaPianoMasters Жыл бұрын
No, ivory is no longer used in the production of piano keys.
@LamondFan5 ай бұрын
If it used actual Ivory, Kawai would've been shut down. It's been illegal to sell ivory for half a century.
@jonathan130 Жыл бұрын
I prefer resp
@jonathan130 Жыл бұрын
Resp
@harukayure Жыл бұрын
3:59
@marcutrillogibert91542 жыл бұрын
no table resume, its a shame
@kenpeters98073 жыл бұрын
How long are the keys on the GF2
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
Approximately 13 11/16 inches. We'll be doing a video comparing the GF2 and the GF3 soon :)
@kenpeters98073 жыл бұрын
San Mateo Piano: Thank’s for this. How did you get this information? Did you remove the top of the piano. I used calipers on supposed scale drawing in a brochure. By so doing, I “calculated” 16.9 inch keys. They do fit the sanity check. I’m very curious. On a total other key length subject: I measured the keys on the KAWAI GL series grands. The key length on the 5’2” baby grand are 20”. The key length on the SS Model “M” is 19” and on the BOSTON’s is 18.9”. (Ken length contributes to the ability of playing pp and ppp passages more responsively. (BTW, 19” is a VERY adequate length.) Long is good - but has to be merged with a good action, of course.
@BayAreaPianoMasters3 жыл бұрын
@@kenpeters9807 I would definitely need a technician's help to remove the top of the piano! I measured the GF2 action model that we were sent by Kawai. Thanks for that additional information about the keystick lengths for the acoustic pianos!
@omert9996 Жыл бұрын
2:36
@jpdurrАй бұрын
Kawai seems to let their Engineers do their Marketing and that's how we end up with this alphabet soup of naming, and so many different actions in current lineup. Confusing the customer is NOT an effective marketing strategy.