Kawasaki Z900 RS Ownership - "Can a bike be too perfect?"

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TheMissendenFlyer

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@eliteengineerdaz
@eliteengineerdaz 8 ай бұрын
I completely disagree with you saying this bike has no character - it being a four cylinder and its smoothness IS its character and charm. I think you've somehow missed that.
@johnharris6087
@johnharris6087 8 ай бұрын
I agree. De-cat and tune and you have plenty of character from the engine
@benmorris1968
@benmorris1968 4 ай бұрын
I agree. She's too masculine. Too logical, reliable, perfect. I think what he meant to say is "she's trans". Give her a bit of surgery and she'll be fine as.
@chuckster243
@chuckster243 3 ай бұрын
@@eliteengineerdaz 💯 agree,I miss my 76 kz900 Ltd like the desert misses the rain.
@paulwintermute1495
@paulwintermute1495 3 ай бұрын
Aftermarket header and a reflashed ECU, and you won't be complaining about "character."
@tmgasia
@tmgasia 2 ай бұрын
@@benmorris1968 Lol!!! Dude! lol!
@terencenottingham2379
@terencenottingham2379 9 ай бұрын
Because I'm an old git I drooled over the Z1, Z900 etc in the 70's but could never afford one, now I own a 21 plate Z900 in black and silver and I am in love. Even during the seemingly constant rain I can take a cup of coffee, sit in the garage and just stare at this beautiful machine. No bike is ever perfect but the Z900RS very damn close.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 9 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@jameshales6958
@jameshales6958 8 ай бұрын
I started my Apprenticeship in 1972 and one of the guys bought a brand new Z1 in 72/73 and you’ve never seen so many guys drooling over his bike. A sad day for the guys who owned Triump Bonnevilles and Norton Commandos. The Z1 truly was a game changer.
@chrissymes-davidson3598
@chrissymes-davidson3598 8 ай бұрын
I bought a 2019 std z900rs... it is stunning. Everything about it is as perfect as can be.i know I am biased but comfort? it's spot on, power? It has loads. And that sound? So addictive 😅
@kwakithailand
@kwakithailand 7 ай бұрын
Dang right 👌
@stevenjonestriumpht1207
@stevenjonestriumpht1207 9 ай бұрын
I bought a 2019 Z900RS Brown and Orange in January. I love it bought it to help me recover from Open heart surgery. I am busy making it mine by modifying it a little.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 9 ай бұрын
Nice one Steve!
@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne
@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne 9 ай бұрын
What a fabulously good idea. May I wish you all the best in your ongoing life 'post surgery'...
@stevenjonestriumpht1207
@stevenjonestriumpht1207 9 ай бұрын
@@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne Thank you I wasn't sure I would wake up
@expatbiker6598
@expatbiker6598 9 ай бұрын
​​@@stevenjonestriumpht1207 you're up and more alive than most people with your 2 wheels. Godspeed.
@stevenjonestriumpht1207
@stevenjonestriumpht1207 9 ай бұрын
@@expatbiker6598 Thank you Sir
@Grauer1963
@Grauer1963 8 ай бұрын
Hello. Congrats to your choice. I`m 100% on your side. I bought mine in march 2023....and I wanted exactly the SE model. So I ordered in winter 2022 a new 2023 model. Arrived in march 2023. I`m very satisfied with every kind of riding......comfort is perfect. Grip heating, custom seat with heating...main stand and some other extra things on it. You can do anything with that bike....touring, sport, cruising...anything is possible without any negative reasons. I`m 60 years old and had every kind of bikes..but this one is really perfect for me, in my opinion. And also the sound and look of the whole bike is perfect, really nice. Regards from germany and stay healthy and enjoy your rides.
@billreynolds2221
@billreynolds2221 9 ай бұрын
Love Kawasaki retro bikes. I currently own an 05 ZRX1200R. Had it since new. No mods. It's exactly like it came out of the crate. These in-line 4s from Kawasaki are practically bullet proof. Mine was a father's day gift from my wife. I'll never sell her. The bike, not the wife. :)
@PhaedruS007
@PhaedruS007 9 ай бұрын
I have a 2001 fully upgraded. I was very excited for The release of the z900rs and did a test ride. TMF is correct- zero riding character. I thought I would be blown away with modern power but it wasn't even close.
@stuartandzoe
@stuartandzoe 8 ай бұрын
I have a '99 ZRX 1100 with a few mods, tried the Z900 expecting it to be light years better. Was not impressed.
@billreynolds2221
@billreynolds2221 8 ай бұрын
Every time I take the zrx out I always come back with the same impression. Best engine of any motorcycle I’ve ever owned. It has effortless tractable power.
@scottstambaugh8473
@scottstambaugh8473 8 ай бұрын
How much for the wife then?
@AJ29430
@AJ29430 9 ай бұрын
Ive a strong memory of certain bikes, ie 1969 Honda CB 750, Norton Commando 750, but it was the Z1 900 in 1972 that captured me as a young man
@soulrebelno1
@soulrebelno1 9 ай бұрын
So do I! I loved the way the CB750 looked, especially the shape of the tank, I can't understand why Honda haven't done a modern version.
@billspringer7683
@billspringer7683 9 ай бұрын
When I read your response I thought that I was reading something that I had wrote but forgot about 😀but my order of progression was Honda CB450-Norton 750 Commando-Kawasaki Z1B 900 😉
@billcotton1551
@billcotton1551 9 ай бұрын
I think it has the big Japanese 4 vibe that used to be huge in my motorcycle past, so to me, it does have character.
@macsmotors
@macsmotors 9 ай бұрын
I've got a 2023 Z900RS, popped about 5K miles on it over the last year. It's been an utter hoot to ride and own. I'm running a Yoshimura Straight Cyclone exhaust, a Rapidbike tuning kit, and a Sprint air filter. I'm looking at getting a proper remap done to protect the engine a bit better, but man, the tweaks have turned this into a proper weapon. The only thing that lets it down is the suspension on the standard bike. One day, when I've saved a few pennies, I'll get some new forks etc sorted.
@MotoDude1967
@MotoDude1967 9 ай бұрын
I love the round dials, must have for a retro bike, and you still have a small screen for fuel, gear position etc. You got it right, a very well executed update of a standard motorcycle of decades past.
@LickyDischarge
@LickyDischarge 9 ай бұрын
After passing my test, all I wanted was the most powerful motorcycles I could find. As I thought that was the key to enjoying them. Fast forward six years and I’m enjoying the delights of a CRF250 Rally, for me it’s pretty perfect on the crappy broken up roads of East Anglia, with the ability for some light off roading.
@BaxterTheBiker
@BaxterTheBiker 9 ай бұрын
Does "calm, confident competence" count as character? If so, then this bike has character. 😊
@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne
@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne 9 ай бұрын
I do enjoy a Kawasaki retro, they do seem to nail them from time to time, think not only of this stunning machine but also the old ZRX1100/1200.
@ianhalliwell8604
@ianhalliwell8604 9 ай бұрын
I agreed with every word you spoke on your Z900, until the very end. As an owner of a bike with bags of character, my BSA GoldStar, I disagree with your comments on your bikes character. From the twin clock's to the fuel tank and the engine, to me its loaded with character and I'd love one in my garage.
@johnlaw5762
@johnlaw5762 9 ай бұрын
Have you ridden one? Character lies in the way it rides, not looks
@gsrossco
@gsrossco 9 ай бұрын
@@johnlaw5762 Character is very subjective, inline 4's are great motors, but very different vibe to twins etc.
@johnlaw5762
@johnlaw5762 9 ай бұрын
@@gsrossco I don’t disagree at all that they are great motors and while character is subjective in theory I’m yet to hear someone honestly describe one as “characterful” in practice. “Smooth” yes, “perfect” perhaps… Each to their own of course but my answer to the question of whether a bike/motor can be too perfect is yes…for me at least. I do love looking at these and completely understand why someone would want and enjoy one ✌🏻
@BIGGIEsmalls13
@BIGGIEsmalls13 9 ай бұрын
For this very reason I fell in love with Ducati V twins. A lot of modern bikes are gadget laden but intrinsically dull.
@andyedmond248
@andyedmond248 8 ай бұрын
@@johnlaw5762 I agree to a point, but it depends how you ride it. If you ride it sedately then sure, it's like any other in-line four, smooth as silk. But, if you ride it with scant disregard for your licence, (or personal safety), then I can assure you that you will experience the true character of this awesome bike. Each to their own as usual though. Have fun.
@ianrobertson8514
@ianrobertson8514 9 ай бұрын
Surely it's not that it doesn't have character but that it's character is that of hyper smoothness and efficiency. If you want vibrating mirrors and numb hands take out one of your more "characterful" set of wheels ! Oh, and the looks are stunning -reminds me so much of the original Z1 that I drooled over as a schoolboy.
@jeannoelsandrazie1874
@jeannoelsandrazie1874 9 ай бұрын
Agree. 👍
@peterwilson8039
@peterwilson8039 9 ай бұрын
@@jeannoelsandrazie1874This comment reminds me of Andy’s reaction to the 861 Commando. There is such a thing as too much character.
@jdh4041
@jdh4041 9 ай бұрын
Totally agree. comments that the bike is great then said it has no character ?. i have thought after watching your videos regarding this bike many times that you seem to have changed your mind about it Andy and always seem to prefer your Triumph speed twin which is a great bike, looked at them myself before buying my Z900RS. maybe you should stick with the vibrating mirror and numb hands bikes that has been said above. And before i get knocked for this comment i would like to point out iv had Harleys, Z1000 4th gen and Z900RS and everyone of them had character. the sound alone of the stock Z900RS is character. beginning to think you bought this bike on a whim or did i not understand the end of the video.
@lachiedamn
@lachiedamn 9 ай бұрын
Quite, I played it back because I couldn't understand Andy's closing comments..... Maybe a wee bit of clarification required. I prefer the Speed Twin and I'm not a fan of gold wheels.......
@kkiwi54
@kkiwi54 8 ай бұрын
What is often referred to as "character" is often just "faults"
@TheChrysler56
@TheChrysler56 8 ай бұрын
I’ve owned many motorbikes since the age of 17 I’ll be 63 this coming May, blimey! That’s only next month 😮 My brother owned a Z1 back in the 70’s and I was brave or stupid enough to go pillion. I took delivery of my 2019 Z900rs “Jaffa” two years ago and can honestly say I enjoy this bike more everyday. I have had a de-cat and remap and made it my own with other lovely modifications like the retro kawasaki tank badges, twin horns and Kawasaki fork emblem, colour matching rear hugger, a better rear light, grab rail, amongst other modifications oh! and lowered custom made seat. It’s worth investing in a decent set of tyres too.
@andrewooi2551
@andrewooi2551 9 ай бұрын
Possibly the best looking bike in your garage. Kawasaki nailed it with the looks of the Z900RS 👍🏻👍🏻
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 9 ай бұрын
100%
@michaelhartman5485
@michaelhartman5485 9 ай бұрын
If anything, the Z900RS is of steadfast character. Dependable, reliable, yet performance wise, it stays the course set by the Z1 fifty years on...it is the perfect motorcycle for me.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 9 ай бұрын
Great when you find the perfect bike!
@reinmansmith
@reinmansmith 8 ай бұрын
My friend bought one of the original Z1Bs in the mid 70s which was an amazing machine and I have to say that Kawasaki have nailed the styling on this particular retro machine 🤩
@elevationmoto6208
@elevationmoto6208 9 ай бұрын
I bought a 2021 Z900 RS shortly after you put it your top 5. Good call. That sound never gets old. Congrats on picking up the SE!
@erniel7689
@erniel7689 8 ай бұрын
I’ve been riding for 54 years and have owned 20 different bikes. Overall my 2018 Z900RS is the most enjoyable bike I’ve ever owned. Just wish they had the SE version in 2018.
@Keith-e5f
@Keith-e5f 8 ай бұрын
It has character because it's modeled after the 70s KZ900. It's an old man's crotch rocket with upright seating. And people that were around in the 70s and know the history of these bikes appreciate it.
@fasteddy3661
@fasteddy3661 9 ай бұрын
At a test event organized by Kawasaki I rode the Z900RS and the W800 and I liked the W800 so much more. But I don't care about horsepower, my 1956 BMW R50 only has 26hp and it is one of my favourite bikes.
@stewartnorton6386
@stewartnorton6386 9 ай бұрын
I'm looking to replace my 600 Hornet with a W800 this year ( too old, fat and stiff now !)Want it in the red finish, not many come up for sale but keeping my fingers crossed.
@MarmiteTheDog
@MarmiteTheDog 9 ай бұрын
​@@stewartnorton6386 Try the RE650 first. It's better & cheaper.
@stewartnorton6386
@stewartnorton6386 9 ай бұрын
@@MarmiteTheDog I want something a bit more unique, I love the look of the W8000. I see Interceptors everywhere. Also from the research I've done the build quality and reliability of the Kawasaki is quite a bit above the Interceptor.
@MarmiteTheDog
@MarmiteTheDog 9 ай бұрын
@@stewartnorton6386 Maybe, but they ride like a relic and the engine is a bag of nails.
@oldrob5773
@oldrob5773 9 ай бұрын
You could also try the Z650RS if you don't need too much power. I like mine very much.
@marcosagosti6175
@marcosagosti6175 8 ай бұрын
As usual a very good and insightful video. Always enjoy them. I love the Z900RS and probably be my next bike, perhaps with some add ons to expand its touring capabilities. I would like to hear what your missus has to say in the pillon department. For me, it was the bike to have when growing up - I'm from 1959 - but the money was never there. Now my take on "character". I use quotations simply because it means many things to many people, and the word has been used and abused to the point that is at best a catch phrase, at worst meaningless. A Triumph has it, but a Kawa doesn't , why? Because one vibrate somewhat and the other doesn't? Because it brings back nostalgic memories of a better past? Etc. It reminds me of a non definition of pornography by supreme court judge Potter Stewart in 1964 "I know it when I see it". Great! So, in one stroke he became the unquestionable master of the subject. Brilliant! A bit of history. Character was not mentioned very much in the 50's or before. It started to be used in motorcycle magazines by British and Italian bike manufacturers, less by Germans, when the japanese bikes began their invasion in the 60's. Coincidence? or perhaps the only available defense against superior products at cheaper price. A modern analogy would be expensive swiss watches. Who needs them when a Casio would do and everyone has a phone? But back then it was worse, much worse. Because the swiss watch works, and very well, but those bikes were crappy compared to the reliabilities and performance - except in handling until the japs fixed that as well - of the oriental siblings. Most European makers in the 60's were stated subsidised enterprises keeping employment numbers looking good but without the real capability to compete with the rising sun machines. So, not a nice way to plant the seed of "Character" as something special that only the true "connoisseur" can appreciate. Even wine tasting has a more comprehensive list of qualities before giving the nod. Even though at the end ALL that matter is if you like it or not, just as with motorcycles. The rest is just plain marketing bollocks to sound fancy and up the price.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 8 ай бұрын
Wow - thanks for taking the time to write that lot, interesting reading….
@wattie1050
@wattie1050 9 ай бұрын
Nice one TMF lovely looking and sounding bike , love the Japanese 4 cylinders can't beat the sound and smoothness . 👍
@IanSixbikes-by6ei
@IanSixbikes-by6ei 9 ай бұрын
Have to say the Z900 RS SE is in my book the best looking "retro" on the market today, as a fellow fan of gold rims it gets my vote every time 👍
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 9 ай бұрын
Yes this is defo a great looker
@jonnny1
@jonnny1 9 ай бұрын
Agreed with everything you said Andy apart from the character. I think it’s got loads, unless you mean the vibrations of a twin cylinder motorcycle! I love mine as it never fails to make me smile! My Multistrada V2 has the sort of character that I think you mean, which is lovely as well.
@Joseph-gp5ld
@Joseph-gp5ld 8 ай бұрын
The retro look is absolutely brilliant and spot on. I think if you want a bike that is kind of like the Swiss army knife of motorcycles, you got a good choice in that Kawasaki. If you just want to go run some curvy roads or do some touring, the Kawasaki 900 will do it all. I think Kawasaki 4 cylinder engines are just absolutely amazing and so smooth. Great video sir
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 8 ай бұрын
Thank you....
@robertlindstrom540
@robertlindstrom540 9 ай бұрын
The original Z1 was what made me fall for the brand in the seventies, my first one was a 100cc used one and the Z1 was the dream. Never to be, it was just too expensive for a young man. Now as an old geezer I´m quite happy with my old Vulcan but if I were 10-15 years younger I would get one of these new ones, propably the model in this video. Have a good season, and keep it upright!
@Boyko1996
@Boyko1996 8 ай бұрын
Got this as soon as I passed my test when I was 24, 3 years later still not felt the need to get anything else! The exhaust is a symphony which saves me battery life on my cardo as I don't have to listen to music, it's super comfortable for longer journeys (did 2k miles around the UK and 5k miles around Sweden and Norway on it) and still so much fun to hoon around on!
@cedricpieterse7280
@cedricpieterse7280 8 ай бұрын
For good looks as well as character and beautiful sound, you can not go wrong with a BMW R nineT. But all retro bikes are my cup of tea and this Kawa is high on my list. Enjoy!
@jimathanasopoulos2234
@jimathanasopoulos2234 8 ай бұрын
Was just about to chime in with this but didn't want to sound like I'm bagging the Kwaka which is overall a beautiful bike. The R nine T has that engine as well as the looks.
@jtwu8931
@jtwu8931 9 ай бұрын
I just took delivery on my 2024 SE yesterday. Can’t take my eyes off it. How timely. Thanks!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 9 ай бұрын
Enjoy it!
@jtwu8931
@jtwu8931 9 ай бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer thank you. Last night I finally got time to take it out for a spin. The odo shows “0”. and trip says .6. I noticed the initial rev is kinda all over the place. Being new to it and tires are freaking not worn in. I took it easy on it. Is getting an ecu flashed the way to go? My list of rides includes a GS and several Ducati’s so narrow power band and high rev/ violent acceleration don’t bother me but this one is out of sync with my wrist.
@nigelsride
@nigelsride 9 ай бұрын
It's a beutiful bike Andy, comfort, performance, a proper head turner. A great review. If I had the spare green stuff it would be a defo second bike. Maybe one day 😊
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 9 ай бұрын
Cheers Nigel!
@nlmotor
@nlmotor 9 ай бұрын
Hi Andy your first review of the z900rs about 6 years ago was one of the reviews that pushed me to this bike. 2 years ago I bought a new z900rs café lime green. Never had any regrets. Thanks for all your videos and especially the ones with “our bike”! Keep them coming!
@RRRRefuelRideRace
@RRRRefuelRideRace 9 ай бұрын
Keep that bike. :) This is what I think.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 9 ай бұрын
I won't be letting her go anywhere for a while yet.....I do love the bike, just not as much as my Speed Twin.
@xfactor5876
@xfactor5876 9 ай бұрын
Well, I would call it civilized character. I grew up riding the CB series of Honda's where bike mods were common. Listening to those 4 cylinders growl through a long set of near straight pipe turn outs was nirvana for me. The excitement for me has always started at the first press of the starter. Listening to a 4 cylinder start and run is pleasing. I have had Harley's and BMW's and have a Triumph in the garage. But I have never lost appreciation of the standard 4 and have watched your videos of the Kawaski with great interest.
@jacksunstone8771
@jacksunstone8771 6 ай бұрын
2020 Cafe here. Green and Black. Changed to standard bars, added Ohlins rear shock and Delkevic Headers. Now I have the perfect bike.
@palantir135
@palantir135 9 ай бұрын
Hi Andy, Yes, we’re growing old and we want comfort. I want to sit a bit more upright, windshield, nice suspension, easy handling and luggage capacity. I like this bike’s specifications and looks. The things I miss here is that windshield. A bike that has character usually means that it has its quirkiness and that usually means less comfort. Tomorrow, at last we hopefully have a few hours of nice weather and then I’m going to have my first ride of the year. I wasn’t able to ride earlier due to weather and heavy side effects of Statines/Statins; too much pain. Those problems have been solved for the moment so hooray 🏍️🏍️
@RRRRefuelRideRace
@RRRRefuelRideRace 9 ай бұрын
Rode it and a short demo ride and it was fun. Offers a lot of comfort, but the throttle was a bit too snatchy, otherwise... the one to buy. I am now sure if they fixed it or not. I agree about being the best looking in the todays "Retro world". :) Another great video Andy.
@carlton683
@carlton683 9 ай бұрын
Hi kids, happy easter everybody ❤
@numidian5191
@numidian5191 9 ай бұрын
I didn't know anything about the z900, and when I was visiting the dealer a couple of weeks ago, they had a Kawasaki Z900 under the lights, and I must say, pictures do not do it justice, it really is a handsome bike. And the details of the bike were top notch, very well appointed.
@Astroman1958
@Astroman1958 8 ай бұрын
I've had mine (standard RS) for about 6 months now. The brakes are superb, and if you think the SE Brembo's are necessary, think again. The standard suspension is setup soft, and that suits my old back fine. There is plenty of adjustment if you wanted it firmer. The Ohlin's on the SE are probably slightly better, but at the expense of comfort. The engine is like a turbine (not in a bad way). It seems to pull the same almost regardless of what gear you are in, or revs you are at.
@brianb.2857
@brianb.2857 9 ай бұрын
Great video. I think it comes down to how you define character. In my mind it means how it makes one feel while riding. I often hear reviewers mentioning how a BMW boxer or Moto Guzzi kicks to the side on firing up and how this gives them character. The Kawasaki seems to be much more original in appearance than many of the other manufacturers retro bikes. Loving the way the bike rides and looks does not seem to square with it lacking character. I think when it comes to a subjective thing like character it comes down to ones personal feelings and perhaps even bias. Personally love the bike.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 9 ай бұрын
Very much agree yes.....
@bertsbike
@bertsbike 8 ай бұрын
Got the cafe' version. Amazing looks, comfort and performance.
@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449
@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449 9 ай бұрын
Hay mate in Australia the First Kawasaki Z , was the Z900 , the Z1000 followed. So your new Z900 was taken from the original Z900 . A fantastic movie was the original Mad Max - with Mel Gibson , it had the original Z900,s and Z1000.
@murrayhyde4902
@murrayhyde4902 9 ай бұрын
I reckon kawasaki Australia sponsored that original mad max flick... also some great Victorian back roads in the chase scenes.
@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449
@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449 9 ай бұрын
@@murrayhyde4902 totally 👍
@Ukmongoose3
@Ukmongoose3 9 ай бұрын
Y’all can get various kits for this bike too!
@murrayedgar4791
@murrayedgar4791 6 ай бұрын
And there was "stone," a total crap movie where the only good thing was the bikini faired Z1s.
@SS-ck3ew
@SS-ck3ew 9 ай бұрын
You certainly do have some tiny (narrow!) roads over there! Tiny but beautiful. The camera view makes me think you are like Moses crossing the parted Red Sea. And yes, your motorbike is gorgeous! Thank you! SS
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@steve940
@steve940 9 ай бұрын
Passed my test 6 years ago and always loved the style of this bike..I'm a supersport lover at the moment but would love this as a second bike for lazy Sunday rides..maybe in the future
@bobleschewski8677
@bobleschewski8677 9 ай бұрын
Nice review of the Z900RS, keep up the good work. I did a test ride on one a few years ago, it reminded me of my ZRX1100 I currently ride. I would disagree with you about the bike lacking character. Speaking for myself, who grew up on Japanese 4 cylinder machines, the smoothness is a quality I like. A few aftermarket parts could change the inline four's personality to something you might find more to your liking.
@docmarten8382
@docmarten8382 9 ай бұрын
I had a new Z900 in 2019, that was quite zesty and wild, was offered a day’s test ride on a Z900RS in comparison. The engine tune is far better, torque notably better with the RS, but they are two different beasts from the same stable. Which did I prefer? The RS, lovely all round package. The Z900 was far too alive for me and required too much input for my sedate style….
@elevationmoto6208
@elevationmoto6208 9 ай бұрын
Interesting... I own and ride both a 2021 Z900 RS and 2023 Z900 SE. The Z900 SE has better fueling, smoother ride, better brakes, more top end power. But the Z900 RS is much better for carrying things, and it sounds better. If I had to do it all over again, I would have passed on the Z900 SE and looked for a Z900 RS SE. The one TMF has.
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 9 ай бұрын
​@@elevationmoto6208 people don't realise the benefits. Or a lower state of tune they just think more horsepower the better. Is the rs 111hp and the se 125hp.
@elevationmoto6208
@elevationmoto6208 9 ай бұрын
@@chrishart8548 Yes. 110 HP for the Z900 RS and 125 HP for the Z900 SE. The rpm range of highest torque production is about 1500 rpm higher on the higher HP bike, but it has still has penty down low. There are some other differences: the 125 HP engine has much better fueling, shifting is smoother (1st and 2nd are closer to each other), pulls hard all the way to redline (it tends to stutter at redline more than the 110 HP engine), but fuel economy is not as good. I think the 125 HP engine is perfect for the bike it is in, but the 110 HP would benefit greatly from better fueling. I may get my RS ECU flashed, but am concerned about degraded fuel economy and a few other things. Other than the poor fueling in certain situations, I think that 110 HP engine is perfect for the RS. I do not want 2nd gear power wheelies, and the RS is slightly below that point. Also, the RS with stock exhaust sounds so, so good. When I'm just cruising along, the grumbly exhaust note, gentle mechanical clatter, and soothing gear whine match my relaxed mood. But crank it up, and that fantastic moaning howl of intake sound... just awesome, never gets old.
@GDM22
@GDM22 9 ай бұрын
@@chrishart8548 Have to agree, I have seen people dismissing this bike on the basis of HP, arguing they know better than Kawasaki. Clearly Kawasaki could have just dropped the Z900 engine in and saved money.
@SeanSean1892
@SeanSean1892 9 ай бұрын
As a very happy owner of this bike I couldn't agree more!! I have the 23 model in Black/Red. Great performance, great looks and amazing sound!! Only 'major' change I'm making to mine is putting on a set of Rizoma race retro bars just to lower my arms and body a smidge. Coming from a 2015 Thruxton I got used to the leant forward riding position. I got the RS due to it being more upright and that's what I wanted, however since making the change I have felt like I don't have as much control of the bike, particularly in corners! Funny what you learn after a change haha
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 9 ай бұрын
It sure is!
@markellott5620
@markellott5620 9 ай бұрын
I bought mine in2018 and still have it. An ex colleague bought the same model as yours last summer. He only put 45 miles on it before deciding that it didn't float his boat. as he's selling it for £3k under list, I'm selling mine and buying his. Too good an opportunity to pass up.
@kaine4472
@kaine4472 9 ай бұрын
Your comment on the comfort chimed with me. I'm quite tall with a dodgy back and on most naked bikes I'm crippled after a couple of hours in the saddle. Give me a big adventure bike and I can ride all-day. However, although I haven't ridden the Z900, when I sat on one in the showroom, the upright riding position with wide bars made me feel instantly at home. If I ever have the luxury of getting a naked retro it would be a contender 😊
@winchester92stevebrook44
@winchester92stevebrook44 9 ай бұрын
The Z900 RS SE looks gorgeous, however I get your point about a 'lack of character' or 'involvement' in the riding experience. I owned a Yamaha 1000 Fazer that performed faultlessly, commuting, touring, Sunday scratching around country lanes, and motorway blasts, yet lacked 'character'. As I say I could not fault it at all in any way, and I wouldn't have wished for it to develop foibles, but I had more fun riding less refined motorcycles.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 9 ай бұрын
Strange isn’t it - but turns out “character” is an essential thing…..
@elevationmoto6208
@elevationmoto6208 9 ай бұрын
I feel that way about my Z900 SE. It is basically a perfect motorcycle. Does exactly what I want without drama. The only way to get satisfaction out of that flawless machine is to go fast. Or perhaps put on loud pipes and be obnoxious. I may trade it for something more involving for the daily ride. Probably a Triumph T100 or Speedmaster.
@jag1970s
@jag1970s 9 ай бұрын
Perhaps the character aspect comes down to being a 4, not a twin. But I agree - as I think nearly everyone does these days - horsepower by no means the most important part of enjoying a bike. 109 is more than plenty. And I also agree about the looks - it is just a very beautiful bike. I wish the clocks on my bike were as beautiful as those.
@ThomasMallows
@ThomasMallows 9 ай бұрын
Hi Andy, interesting word character for the Z900RS… I purchased my Z900 from your first review in 2018 never lacked in its interesting qualities and plenty of interest from others…
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 9 ай бұрын
Great to hear!
@robertjames3378
@robertjames3378 8 ай бұрын
Great review again,I owned a kh 250 triple then an original z900 back in the 80’s ,after having owned a r ninet over the last 5 years thought it might be nice to have a change so I tried a bike like yours last year as I’ve always had a soft spot for Kawasaki I liked the bike but it didn’t grab me due to lack of character,so stuck with my r ninet until I test rode the r12 ninet and was blown away,my order is in.!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 8 ай бұрын
Did you see my review of it?
@billythealien
@billythealien 7 ай бұрын
I bought my standard Z900 in January 2024 and have covered 850 miles so far. To buy it I traded in my beautiful Honda CB1100, a bike I loved but was just too heavy for me. I have found the Z900 has lots of pros and cons: Cons The amount of things you have to buy which I think should be standard, such as centre stand, radiator guard, fender extender, grab handles Seat height, the rear section is quite high and makes getting on quite difficult with my 29” legs Snatchy throttle Low gearing, lots of people are changing their sprockets to make up for this Pros Great handling Bags of power Great looks Nice clocks and dash Relatively light Lovely gearbox Overall despite the cons I am really enjoying the bike especially the power from that great engine
@christaylor491
@christaylor491 9 ай бұрын
I know exactly what you mean TMF with the character aspect of a bike. Had a Z1000SX and thought that was the perfect bike at first but as time went on I came to realise that it lacked character. Swapped it for a GS and haven’t looked back. Keep up the good work TMF 👍
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 9 ай бұрын
Cheers Chris!
@chrisnielsen9885
@chrisnielsen9885 9 ай бұрын
I rode a Z1000SX and I think I could have ridden it all day and felt great at the end but it was just so damn boring. I own a GSXS1000 and it makes all sorts of interesting noises that keeps me interested 😂
@christaylor491
@christaylor491 9 ай бұрын
@@chrisnielsen9885 yes, that’s exactly how it was with the SX. Loads of power and very smooth and, apart from the seat, it was a bike I could ride all day, but its smoothness was the big negative. It had absolutely no character. And, although I know they have their haters, the GS, for me, has bags of character with the boxer engine and not so smooth gear change, but it’s that agricultural feel that lets you know you’re riding a bike and I love it for it. Happy riding!
@debenhamdave4314
@debenhamdave4314 9 ай бұрын
I think the z900rs se is an awesome bike would definitely love one in my garage, only negative I wish they had hidden the radiator more in a way like your speed twin. Cheers Andy
@ilmarinen79
@ilmarinen79 8 ай бұрын
Stunning. Absolutely gorgeous. Never been a biker, but this...Times are a changin'.
@guyrose2239
@guyrose2239 9 ай бұрын
Lovely … looks like they have really nailed it… nice to start my Saturday off with a dose of TMF… looking forward to your next mini tour 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 9 ай бұрын
Thanks - delighted to hear that!
@phillipmorgan6822
@phillipmorgan6822 7 ай бұрын
Tried one a few days ago but it didn’t click for me. Great engine but under geared, suspension harsh on our terrible urban roads, great brakes, good handling, seat was uncomfortable but I think easily improved. Nice looking bike
@SuperSportler43
@SuperSportler43 9 ай бұрын
I own the metallic dark green one , or simply British Racing, from the year 2022. It's a truly beautiful bike with absolutely fantastic performance in every aspect. I am 35 years old, switched from a supersportbike, and I never miss the performance, it's always there. Anyone considering buying it should just take a test ride, and you'll understand everything. Wishing everyone a great 2024 season.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 9 ай бұрын
You too!
@simonwilliams9435
@simonwilliams9435 9 ай бұрын
I think for me it reminds me of my gpz900,sounds like goes like etc but modern & comfy too. & Every ride makes me smile . We've all got favourites 👍
@JanSonnemann
@JanSonnemann 9 ай бұрын
I earned a gpz 900 back in the days too. I can not see a little similarty of these 2 bikes. Gpz 900 was a great sportbike, with aggressive driver positioning, lot more weight on the front-tire, not comfortable but stable like a tank on speed over 200km/h (German Autobahn). I loved her so much!
@adriansmith1989
@adriansmith1989 9 ай бұрын
After 18 years of owning twin cylinder bikes (Ducati 900SS, Norton Dominator 961 SS, Triumph T120 & BMWR1250 GSA), I bought a Z900RS Cafe to remind me of the lovely character of my 1985 GPZ900R!
@simonwilliams9435
@simonwilliams9435 9 ай бұрын
@@JanSonnemann it's the power delivery, airbox roar & 4 cylinder pull
@JanSonnemann
@JanSonnemann 8 ай бұрын
@@simonwilliams9435 Ok, understand. But for this I would say the Suzuki GSXS 1000 is more comparable to the GPZ 900.
@neildove1869
@neildove1869 9 ай бұрын
I was after an old school retro inline four! I rode the Z900rs and loved it, it is a great bike! However I felt the look was spoiled by the rear mono shock suspension, although it works great it just doesn’t look right on a retro! I bought a Honda CB1100ex in the end which has twin rear shocks and looks the business, real retro styling and still works really well for the type of riding I do. Keep riding safe
@SteveInskip
@SteveInskip 9 ай бұрын
It’s a retro in styling only. It’s a Z900 in a different frock.
@mirzaomar
@mirzaomar 8 ай бұрын
I got the z900 yellow ball! Love it. The looks and performance are amazing!
@soavader9641
@soavader9641 9 ай бұрын
Just come back home from a good lil trip out on my SE. Its my first proper trip out due to work and weather and honestly if i wasnt up early tomorrow morning, id be heading out again. I had such good fun today. Never had a bike with Olins suspension on it but i can see why people rave about them. Super smooth and brings a good giggle in the corners doesnt it. For the first time in 12 years of riding, i think ill be keeping this one
@beastieboy3926
@beastieboy3926 3 ай бұрын
I have one and agree with you. As for character, I have a tube framed Buell lightning for that,which has more character than most ppl want.
@nicholascrocker4329
@nicholascrocker4329 9 ай бұрын
Back in the day the Honda VFR750 was regarded by many as ‘the best motorcycle in the world’ despite having no character.
@elvis_chen
@elvis_chen 8 ай бұрын
In Japan, z900RS has won the sales championship of large motorcycles every year since it was launched in 2018. To be able to achieve such results in Japan, a big country of motorcycles, Kawasaki must have done something right!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 8 ай бұрын
Very true! It is a lovely thing….
@WyreForestBiker
@WyreForestBiker 9 ай бұрын
Very honest assessment ..bravo ... It's a common trait with 4 cylinder bikes in my opinion ( to be specific inline 4's) they just don't give the visceral feedback that a motorcycle needs ....
@paulbarnes6124
@paulbarnes6124 9 ай бұрын
Kawasaki has done a great job of exhaust note in a stringent world !! You are always aware of the note
@aidens04
@aidens04 9 ай бұрын
I sat on one recently at a dealership. I was very impressed. Felt like a lovely place to be. Then I sat on an Indian FTR. Cwooaar! Loved that as well. Take my money!!
@peterlivermore2177
@peterlivermore2177 9 ай бұрын
Character? Yes, I'd say so; smooth and refined, and sounds good for an inline 4. I've just bought one, a nice contrast to my Guzzi V85TT.
@peterdane9138
@peterdane9138 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely love it. Can’t beat a Kawasaki 4.
@gilesshort1093
@gilesshort1093 9 ай бұрын
One reason why I sold my Honda cb 650r. As the miles went on the bike was becoming smoother and smoother with almost imperceptible gear changing. The breaks and suspension were great too. I now ride a moto guzzi v7 which has none of the above but it’s much more engaging to ride….imho.
@mattcorbett4431
@mattcorbett4431 9 ай бұрын
I agree, I sold my Guzzi V7 and bought a Yamaha XSR700. I had thought about the Z900RS too but the weight put me off. The Yamaha was in every way a more competent bike than the Guzzi but it didn't make me smile as much or feel good just being out on it. I sold it after 6 months and bought another V7! The missing ingredient was that elusive character.
@gilesshort1093
@gilesshort1093 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I test ride a few retro bikes but as soon as I pulled away on the v7 I knew it was the bike I was looking for. Funny enough though it was way down on my list of new potential bikes.👍
@JIMMER15
@JIMMER15 8 ай бұрын
I love the look of the Z900rs and I'm sure I'd love the engine too as I own a Ninja 1000sx (2022). I did get to borrow a Z650rs whilst my bike was in for a service and I have to say I hated it and that was all down to the vibes from the parallel twin engine (the bike looked lovely but was not a pleasant ride), that's why I think the Z900 is the perfect retro bike at the mo.....
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 8 ай бұрын
Yes no such issues on the Z900!
@ianmacree9830
@ianmacree9830 8 ай бұрын
I had a Z900RS for four years and tried to love it but just couldn't get on with it so sold it. I found the bike to be the most uncomfortable bike to ride that I have ever owned and I have had around 50 bikes. within half an hour I started to ache and an hour was the max I could ride the bike without stopping. I changed the seat, lowered and then raised the handlebars but just could not get comfortable. The snatchy throttle on my bike was terrible so I removed the O2 sensor and that made a big difference but it still was a little snatchy, the clocks and the headlight are cheap plastic so I didn't like those, but I really liked the overall look of the bike and the power of the engine was very good. This is obviously just my opinion but I think the RS is a average bike with nothing really to make it stick out from the crowd apart from the looks of the bike. I do think though that it's the nicest looking retro on the market today but as I said it just wasn't for me.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 8 ай бұрын
Fair enough!
@allistonhyde
@allistonhyde 9 ай бұрын
Agree with you completely, I have a 19 plate Jaffa Z900RS and love it, I did change the front sprocket up by 1 tooth to make the ride much more relaxed, there's going to be a meeting for the marque in Brackley on the 20th July at the Stratton Arms if your around.
@M4rky71
@M4rky71 9 ай бұрын
I think it’s absolutely stunning, by far the best looking of this genre IMO. And only an owner/rider could comment on “character” so thanks for the overview Andy. However, it’s hard to see it’s worth nearly three brand new interceptors?
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 9 ай бұрын
Well that’s true! Though the quality of the Kwak far outstrips the Enfield….
@RideWith_Mee
@RideWith_Mee 9 ай бұрын
My Multistrada V4S is my perfect bike. Was my dream bike and now lucky to own one. It just does anything and everything you want it to do and such a lovely bike to ride.
@stuartmiller9648
@stuartmiller9648 8 ай бұрын
Beautiful looking bike. Was always wondering why they fitted a cable operated clutch rather than hydraulic..? Really fancy getting a test ride on one to see if they ride as good as they look! Great video..!
@camerongeater5404
@camerongeater5404 9 ай бұрын
I totally get the character thing and I certainly enjoy Rumbly v-twins and thumpy singles, but for me there is nothing nicer than a no-fuss ride.
@kyotosal
@kyotosal 9 ай бұрын
Yes, the styling is absolutely perfect.......Sal : )
@merseamoto
@merseamoto 8 ай бұрын
Nice review, loved the timing of the “Stop recording” 🤣
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@bigdope3913
@bigdope3913 8 ай бұрын
4cyl bikes don’t have a lot of go? I’ve heard it all now.
@Latvianization
@Latvianization 2 ай бұрын
They need RPM to get going. My neighbour has CB400 with 4 cyclinders, I had XSR125. I could beat him from green light because of low end torque, but when he got rpms going he would get me in long straights.
@kghwanadoo
@kghwanadoo 8 ай бұрын
The Z900 was a winner in the looks department and this is SO based on the original it was bound to win!
@justwoody6511
@justwoody6511 8 ай бұрын
Just rode it on a demo ride it it was a big surprise to me how much fun it makes to ride it. The sound, the handling, the comfort, the smoothness. Before I thought this bike has “not a lot of character” - I was wrong!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 8 ай бұрын
...actually since I filmed this it has been growing on me!!
@G3A3
@G3A3 9 ай бұрын
all depends on what you mean by character, I would say it has lots of smooth character😉
@garethgriffiths8128
@garethgriffiths8128 9 ай бұрын
I bought my new SE at about the same time as you last year and although it is an all round fantastic machine that is very hard to fault and lovely to ride it is definitely void of character. I take my Triumph Bobber 1200 out a lot more as that is such a good machine- a proper bike with bucket loads of character and a hoot to ride.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 9 ай бұрын
Totally agree! I prefer to ride my Speed Twin (but to look at the Kwak)
@stevenwatling3160
@stevenwatling3160 9 ай бұрын
As a previous owner of several Japanese inline fours they can appear 'characterless' but infact have a character of their own. They are completely different to the Speedtwin 900 which has replaced them recently and oozes that certain something that puts a smile on my face everything I ride it. I sold a Mazda MX5 recently which performed perfectly but characterlessly( it didn't cost me a cent other than routine servicing) but I really wish I had bought the classic MG that I really wanted which was full of character but less reliable....
@markmundy3435
@markmundy3435 9 ай бұрын
I think the Z900rs is the best looking bike on the road today bar none, I lusted after one after seeing it at the NEC when it first came out. Fast forward to 2022 when it was time to add something new to the fold, I knew what I was getting, I was sure of it, a Z900rs. Imagine how gutted I was (and still am) when I find out I can't get on with the seating position, well to be precise the seat, curse my abnormally long arms that push me back in the seat. Maybe still on the cards one day, but with a cutom seat, who knows.
@edbot456
@edbot456 9 ай бұрын
Hi Andy, I do like the looks of the bike a lot. It always takes me back to when I first a z900 in late ‘72, I was totally gobsmacked! It looked so awesome and sounded so sleek and sophisticated compared to the old Brit bikes. I had the z900 and z1000mk2. But yes have to agree about the character of boxer twins etc. I had a Royal Enfield 250 was huge fun too.
@churchofbrap876
@churchofbrap876 9 ай бұрын
I have the Cafe version. Did a Brocks exhaust, ECU flash, filter and velocity stacks. Woke the bike up and made it a little more rowdy. Much more exciting than the stock bike. Also did sticky Bridgestone tires and EBC brake pads. Its such a fun bike! IMHO you can't really leave these bikes stock for long, they need uncorked .
@juliancrooks3031
@juliancrooks3031 8 ай бұрын
Don't know about the new one but back in the late 70's, early 80's it was the best you could buy. It was fast and handled good.
@scottyoung5625
@scottyoung5625 9 ай бұрын
I have the exact same bike. Mod’s are far from necessary but if you want to add ‘character’, decat headers; ECU flash; lithium battery; discrete fly screen, grab rail, fender extender; Metzeler tyres; It’s a blank canvass….
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 9 ай бұрын
A fly screen can be a neat look on these naked retro style bikes.
@glenncaukill1320
@glenncaukill1320 9 ай бұрын
I love my se . Lack of character often means lack of faults , an excellent bike ,
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 9 ай бұрын
I hope you’re right! So far it has been faultless to be fair….
@glenncaukill1320
@glenncaukill1320 9 ай бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer I'm on my second one , had a 69 plate green one before this one , that was perfect too , what do you think of the new Yamaha xsr900gp ? Hope you get chance to test one when they appear 👍
@10secondsrule
@10secondsrule 9 ай бұрын
That’s usually correct as long as it doesn’t feel like riding on the vacuum cleaner as most IL4’s feel like to me. Triples and twins for me only.
@msims1250
@msims1250 9 ай бұрын
The Z900RS is certainly a lovely bike. I’ve been so close to getting one a couple of times, just never did it. I went with a Speed Twin for while, and now I’ve got an RNineT. I still might end up with the Kawasaki though. Thanks for the video!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 9 ай бұрын
My pleasure....
@cliffymill
@cliffymill 9 ай бұрын
I love my z900rs it does have character, but in a different way to a V-twin or parallel rwin. The easy going nature may make it seem bland compared to a speed twin, but I think easy and accessible performance is never a bad thing.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 9 ай бұрын
I agree with that!
@TheBritfrog
@TheBritfrog 8 ай бұрын
i have a 2024 rs SE it is my 50 something bike in as many years, and after having sportsbikes most of my life and still do it is nice just to have a "normal" motorcycle , especially with all the speed cameras around etc, it is not perfect, i would like to see better spaced gear ratios, a bit more room under the seat for even a sandwich, cruise control, but all in all it is a great package
@1bruv1962
@1bruv1962 9 ай бұрын
Hi folks, I brought a Z900rs secial edition paint job at Via moto Clay Cross, a beautiful bike in every way, but as you said character less. I part chopped it for a speed twin. There are days when I regret it as a stupid thing to do, but for me, a motorcycle needs character over just looking pretty.
@IvanIvan-sn5sq
@IvanIvan-sn5sq 9 ай бұрын
Andy, have you considered ChicDesign fairing? Cafe racer style... In my opinion it is only thing missing from making it look perfect 😊 If I ever get my hands on z900rs it will be one and only mod I'll do...
@Wisnix85
@Wisnix85 9 ай бұрын
Great video, keep up the good work. Used a lot of your videos to get more information on the ST and finally decided to trade my Street Triple for a ST 1200 stealth. Can't wait to get back on a 2 cylinder with lots of character.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 9 ай бұрын
Good choice!
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