Kay meets...Joy Division's Peter Hook as he speaks about his depression

Co-founder of Joy Division and New Order Peter Hook tells Kay Burley about his troubled marriage with Caroline Aherne.
He also spoke of the changes to people talking about mental on how 'people speak about it better'.
The guitarist is known for his album Movement with New Order.
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[@fac443]

I really like Peter. He's such a great guy.

[@tjchesney4997]

He's such a humble man. I loved this interview

[@Dangerman5]

Yeah but I can imagine he is awkward to deal with sometimes

[@The.Last.Guitar.Hero.]

glad that hooky said that he was a victim of domestic abuse as a man. it's not a one way street.

[@alexjewell2351]

@SgtBaker16 So easy when the other person is dead. I'd love to think he isn't lying, but who knows with the shallowness of celebrity.

[@affablecamel153]

I don't know if he's lying or not but think what he has to gain from lying? The reaction has been largely unsympathetic and people are even saying he's less of a man for his allegations which is very common when men come forward about domestic abuse. The only other reason I can think of is pure spite because of how their relationship ended maybe, but he doesn't seem like a spiteful unhappy person.

[@smujiodome]

What a great bloke. Such a real human being.

[@davideveson3041]

Ive always loved his bass playing technique.

[@jafarjaffery4859]

I'm thankful for the catalog of work that's from Peter Hook, and just as much so from his interviews. If I didn't know who he was watching this interview, I'd have never guessed he was one of the greatest bassists of all time -- guy is so down to earth. The interviewer did a great job as well.

[@Greggorious123]

If it was Peter Hook who was abusive to Caroline, he'd be all over the newspapers as a villain. Women get away with domestic abuse though cos it's not seen as serious.

[@euan7166]

Men who are physically abused by women almost always deserve scorn.

[@Pointblankmos]

@@euan7166 how does it feel being a wet fart of a human

[@Thunderchild-gz4gc]

He waited until she died to say anything.

[@Greggorious123]

@@Thunderchild-gz4gc And? Many women do the same.

[@vermilliongecko]

It wasn't all over the papers because he didn't tell anyone until after she died.

[@plunder23]

Ahhh even Hooky suffered in silence im glad he can now say how difficult things were

[@robharper1035]

Great honesty from a legend

[@alternatingbitmusic]

There's a lot of deep content here... very valuable and much more than just shoulder patting about the music. Excellent interview.

[@PeterDixonMedia]

Legend. Why am I only seeing this now and it was take a couple years ago. Legend muso. Legend human. Battling life and struggles with a heroic get on with it attitude but not suppress or hide. He’s real. As is ‘his’ music.

[@littlejohnnyturtle8770]

Suffering from depression is a major issue for millions. Talking about it with Kay Burley doesn't help.

[@BarbieChaite]

I agree. Her stupid questions are depressing.

[@user-SBURCHILL]

TV therapy....so sincere...call it mid life crisis...it has all the symptoms....rock star becomes agony aunt...full story on graveyard slot mid afternoon TV

[@tylork8025]

I've had my share of depression. No one really wants death. But I've still tried many times. Just loneliness and the perception of my future always seems to be set in a murky sad tragedy. And ending things before it takes place seems to be the right thing to do. It's an easy that way. I just hope I keep having a press forward additude.

[@conorsmith8551]

La tristessa durera

[@DIYTFY]

Fantastic Interview!!!!

[@1conor]

"Ian Curtis, remind us of what happened to him" jesus kay

[@euan7166]

It's a normie channel, most viewers wouldn't know/remember what happened. As usual with her, it was putting her foot in it, rather than spite.

[@PooperScooperTrooper]

@@euan7166 Fair point...but still, it irked me too

[@conorsmith8551]

“Kurt Cobain.. remind us what happened to him”

[@michaelwall8417]

Depression and Joy Division come hand in hand

[@theohyeahkid8500]

Like bread and butter unfortunately, an incredible band with some incredible music :( Ian will love on in our hearts and his music for generations to come.

[@nervesinapattern7261]

TheOhYeahKid absolutely, music today won’t stand the test of time like joy division.

[@jawknee4088]

​@@nervesinapattern7261 it's incredible how well their stuff aged. the one thing about joy division that will always trouble me though... is that there was no proper recording of "Ceremony"... there exists only three recorded versions, and they're all botched and fucked up. (New Order's version of Ceremony is pretty good though, perhaps that will suffice...)

[@nervesinapattern7261]

Jonathan I know! It bothers me a lot that they aren’t 100% sure of what ceremony’s lyrics are. Weirdly enough I discovered Joy division when I heard Radiohead do a cover on ceremony and the song stuck with me.

[@arevans5986]

Disagree: Joy Division is an escape from depression.

[@riobabic8960]

Seems like a genuine straight up guy ! I think it must be tough sometimes to live in a place that has lots of gloomy weather like the UK , Ireland and Northern Europe ! When I travel to Cuba my mood changes for the positive instantly and people I meet there on holiday from England say the same thing !

[@VincentRE79]

A change of scenery definitely helps shake depression.

[@michaelwilson2340]

Thanks to Jaco Pastorius and Peter Hook the bass was given the dignity it deserves.

[@MrHoefnix]

That being said, I sure don’t want to disqualify the capabilities and merits of bass players like J J Brunel, Chris Squire, Larry Graham, John Entwistle, Suzi Quatro, James Jamerson, Stanley Clarke, Carol Kaye etc.

[@conorsmith8551]

And flea

[@floralpattern1]

Great words from this man

[@markrigg6623]

Nice guy, showing the classic traits of the wisdom that comes with age.

[@VinylCollectorJames]

This interviewer should be sacked. She knew NOTHING about his music going into it, was rude, interrupted, dismissive and pushy. Hate her guts

[@richardneale246]

Such a great bloke.

[@Burgmannn]

Top man. This is what growth looks like.

[@rampageclover9788]

Amazing individual

[@MarkSmith-tp6zc]

Subtle as a house brick that Burley. Thanks Hooky good insights

[@mcdonaldgeraldmark]

Legend. Gentleman.

[@cappaculla]

To speak out as he did and hold back from thumping that woman, respect.

[@ChubbyChecker182]

Kay Burley is very hreavy handed, but Peter was fascinating in this interview

[@tattooedfagin]

Can't stand Burley's interview technique, abrupt & seriously rude & here again, she's digging up 'dirt' on someone unable to answer back. Hooky's marriage breakdown is well known, why bring it up yet again.

[@tattooedfagin]

It's Kay Burley, she's a pro so would have done her homework, she knew full well what the trigger was but directed the questioning into making Caroline Aherne appear a nut job, could have nipped it in the bud but she kept poking for more 'dirt'. Regardless of what issues Aherne & the marriage may have had it's poor taste to go over it yet again, especially as Aherne's no longer with us. Burley's a Pitbull & that's being polite.

[@711honved]

She cuts his answers short & talks across him frequently. A classic sign where an interviewer believes they are more important than the interviewee.

[@dazdavison1]

She horrible.

[@robharper1035]

Bloody hell. Caroline abused Hooky lets not forget that and he had the courage to speak about it. He never slagged off Caroline nor did Kay. It was dealt with honesty and respect and Hooky claimed clearly they were BOTH ill.

[@markrigg6623]

She's not the greatest but Peter managed to react positively and still we ended up with an Insightful interview. Seems like a cool dude.

[@adamturner1563]

Without depression, there would not be a joy division or a new order! ...

[@nhlazyarse]

Or Coldplay

[@vincentdeguard4726]

or Talk Talk

[@adamturner1563]

Or suicide's ...

[@scottiehanbacks6595]

​@@vincentdeguard4726 talk talk ooh god was alsome great band keyboards yep talk talk human league

[@markwright7021]

💗

[@dancewithme2278]

I'm 20, never had a girlfriend, never even been kissed. Never had a true friend, I've been drinking to numb the pain. I've been trying to find a job should I end it all?

[@a1974h]

Nah mate. Hang in there.

[@becomingsmith5715]

Nope. It's a challenge but its worth it to keep going.

[@richardjames5843]

Got nothing to lose mate, might aswell take a risk and go for it!

[@raymondbamford7061]

"Don't pray for an easy life,pray for the strength to endure a difficult one"

[@BlowinFree]

@@raymondbamford7061 wow that’s great 🙏🏻☺️

[@maricallo6143]

Not being familiar with the actual Kay in question , I thought Carol Kaye had actually met Peter Hook and they filmed it...silly me...as one pick wielder to another, both with some unorthodox approach to bass playing = a meet made in heaven.

[@77Spionkop]

Top guy Peter.

[@DiRtYLaWs2007]

I’m torn about this. On one hand it is admirable to be so open and honest about men’s depression but on the other, he agrees to do this on Sky News and with Kay Burley, of ALL people. She’s utterly vile, unsympathetic,self obsessed and incompetent in speaking about such issues.

[@vincentdeguard4726]

...agreed

[@chonnerone2964]

Spot on!

[@bryankinney1]

I could tell just by looking at her.

[@mysynthsandstuff6519]

Its his choice and I avoid Sky and especially Burley at all costs so can completely relate to the OP’s comment. This is the first time I’ve watched any Sky TV in many years. I wouldn’t watch if it wasn’t for him being on it. And really... what do Sky care. They thrive on creating fear and fear causes depression.

[@jeleth]

the way she cuts him off when he's about to finish a sentence pisses me off

Hooky is a great guy👍

[@bigmoneysteppa]

Team back up with bernie and make some bangers

[@whiiteshirt7192]

Bernard or Barney. But not Bernie.

[@lorrainerutter3802]

Definitely not Bernie....not sure they will ever kiss and make up

[@eoliver437]

Kay B missed out on the empathy gene?

[@vincentdeguard4726]

missed out and got a heavy dose of the "nasty" gene me thinks

[@dylanharkin8198]

she needs an E

[@alexjewell2351]

Nowt like striking when the irons hot. There's always two sides to eveything.

[@sobrevalorado]

The guitarist??????

[@timjones9583]

She keeps talking over him!

[@robtolley]

There’s no sound

[@katerichardson8523]

Was this to do with new order firing him

[@REVVINGRODNEY]

Seen this, clicked on it started to enjoy it then seen what avenue she was going down with her questioning... A joke... very poor interviewing skills

[@vincentdeguard4726]

...bad choice on his part by going on Sky News. could have just done a piece on YT directly or found some other media forum/outlet.

[@dirkbogarde44]

Kay Burley..........hopeless.

[@BarriosGroupie]

Why the nasty comments for Kay? She has a job to do called interviewing her guest and asking questions that might interest the public.

[@vermilliongecko]

In a 2008 interview with the former girlfriend of serial killer Steve Wright, Burley was criticised for asking her whether, if the couple had enjoyed a better sex life, he would not have committed the crimes. Images from 2008 show Burley appearing to strangle photographer Kirsty Wigglesworth outside the Naomi Campbell hearing, which a Sky News spokesperson explained by saying "Kay Burley was provoked by a hard hit to the face with a camera."But the Associated Press said: ‘Kirsty is absolutely sure that she’s not the person who bumped Ms Burley with a camera. She was the victim of an unprovoked and inexcusable attack.’ During the 2010 general election, Burley's interview with electoral campaigner David Babbs from 38 Degrees was criticised for "bias and aggressive behaviour"

[@bryankinney1]

the sight of that woman makes me sick...is hooky really that desperate for an interview???

[@beetlejuice9320]

Manc hero

[@chief1redwolf909]

Christ said I will keep at perfect peace who's mind stays on him

[@globalparadise6979]

Wheres his tatoo's Hooky had a few on his fore arms last time i looked

[@chrisguevara4476]

I saw his bee on his arm back in May.

[@MrPomelo555]

Chris Guevara Did it poor honey?

[@danielowen5787]

interviewer was pony, a rock star chatting to his square grandma

[@kashmir87]

Wow, it's really startling how bad she is at interviewing, I'm getting whiplash. Let him talk and listen before jumping randomly to another question, ffs

[@666Eva]

aaaw :)

[@thevellocet]

Too many E's El Hacienda

[@lukaszskiba6482]

L tryptophan is the cure for depression for all people

[@agedefiant-heteromundane-s6943]

thanks doc

[@johnringoo756]

turkey sandwich

[@plunder23]

Ahhh even Hooky suffered in silence im glad he can now say how difficult things were

[@BarbieChaite]

Elle fait poser des questions bêtes dont on connait 20000 fois la réponse... c'est fou. On apprend rien...

[@oscarslife5497]

His wife used to beat him up? I don't get it

[@disorder_go]

How is that difficult to understand? She beats him up knowing that he won't hit her back.

[@vincentdeguard4726]

that not really the reason, something causes the action. is she also depressed? drink/drugs...suffers from an illness? has she been" taught" to resolve conflict with violence?

[@Psychocartography]

@@vincentdeguard4726 she was an alcoholic and an addict. she's dead.

[@rael1999]

@@vincentdeguard4726 .....is that called letting go of all responsibility for your actions ?

[@cecicestmoi]

could she maybe stop interupting his answers' ends.. so annoying.

[@beetleything1864]

They must have paid him a lot of money for this soap opera.

[@vincentdeguard4726]

...someone should been looking-out for him. given his "fame" could have used other outlets other Sky

[@gaygambler]

Ian is the king. Fook hook.

[@jameslandy9959]

If she abused him then why did he wait until after she died to come forward? Maybe because she wouldn’t be able to defend herself. Maybe he’s lying,maybe he’s not. We’ll never know.

[@thefinalsolutionall]

blah blah blah