Peter Hook | Interview | 'Inside Joy Division' | 2nd Oct 2012 | Music News

[@FireMinstrel]

God, Ian singing "Blue Monday" would've been beautiful...I can hear it in my head so clearly too.

[@579enact]

I'm reading Peter's book at the moment, and I like his natural, unpretentious style of writing. Some of the stories are really funny, too, it's just the way he tells it cracks me up.

[@chrs1968]

Both books are a brilliant revaluation

[@jasonunsell2778]

Hooky is so awesome live. I have seen Peter Hook and the light twice now and his is an amazing showman. Close to a 3 hour show. I only paid 25 dollars for my ticket and the venue was very intimate. I saw New Order without Hooky and it just seemed they were so disconnected and so far away. They didn't even play for 2 hours. Hooky sounded great vocally especially on the Joy Division songs. Amazing keep it up.

[@jasonunsell2778]

You will get your moneys worth i am certain

[@chrs1968]

He and the band are amazing live and have gone from strength to strength

[@everettbutler8193]

Peter Hooks book"Unknown Pleasures" Is a wonderful book. Hook speaks about Ian Curtis as much as about him self and his life. This interview struck me as very special the way he remembers How important Ian was to the band what a warm thoughtful person Ian was. I truly believe Peter has missed Ian the most of what was Joy Division and I know he things of Ian most every day of his life. Ian's talent to sing , write lyrics and perform on stage will live on till end of time. As one fan of Ian wrote he was a passing angel was her too short of time most gifted with writing songs, Ian gave his all.

[@nerveclinic]

Hook and his bass Are New Order

[@chrs1968]

Yeah I agree totally

[@calgrundy9834]

This was great.Really enjoyed him and The Light in Wakefield.I am a true believer in Joy Division, fuckin hallelujah.

[@andrewmanford]

Such a lovely man.

[@hughiedavies6069]

I like Peter hooks honesty, I knew rob gretton and the Manchester scene joy division , new order , and the hacienda were the reason I moved to Manchester in 87. I think all of them are unique individuals and together their music is very special and will always be important. I can think of incredible individual elements of joy division songs that are amazing..the incredible drumming, some guitar solos, and bass lines with the Incredible vocals and poetic lyrics that all work together perfectly. Dead souls, novelty,disorder, shadowplay, and No love lost, are some favourite tracks but Digital and Day of the lord's are my current favourites. I love ALL the music, depending on my mood and I like the earlier new order stuff in particular. They shaped my musical taste. Its hard to believe they were only professional for such a brief time. They had something very different and powerful, and more relevant now in 2021 than its ever been.

[@kylabotting]

i admire his honesty.

[@EarlofCrawford]

Joy Division, New Order and there is a New Order tribute band. No Hooky, no New Order.

[@FilCanJay]

Sumner, Hook and Morris are all amazing talents. I cannot believe they reformed New Order without Hook. Still I hope they get back together. New Order is just not the same without Hook. Sumner is the signature voice hands down but Hook's bass is equally as important. I just hope they all realize it's about the music. They all made their money already. Can't they just put egos aside, and get along and create great music again! Sheesh.

[@ginamcgill7054]

I'm completely uninterested in New Order without Hooky.

[@davidjames7949]

+Gina McGill AGREED!!

[@iamsheep]

I'm completely uninterested in New Order without Ian.

[@edwardmulholland7912]

Gina McGill you are right, hooky was a huge part of the sound. It was his melodies that made them the band they were.

[@lostulusF]

Joy Division was all 4 of them. I think Peter Hooks bass was amazing. Him performing unknown pleasures ..touring it years later was disgusting. and awful to see and hear. fuck him and fuck them. its just a shame people they really influenced my world my sonic world just couldn't age gracefully.

[@globalparadise6979]

iamsheep Ian was never a member of New Order

[@Hwral]

New Order without Hooky is as much New Order as much as Joy Division without Ian Curtis wasn't Joy Division.

[@TheMuzfly]

Interesting interview with great person. Like many Northerners (being one myself), Hook is very direct and to the point. Seems so honest and feel a bit sorry for him. Cannot help but sense that he would love to re-work together with his other two old friends...

[@dpiedra1520]

Glad to see Hooky is open to sort things out with the rest of the band.

[@BlueArcStreaming]

It's fascinating to me that Hooky says here that if things hadn't ended the way they did with Joy Division that the music wouldn't have been much different and it would be Ian singing on New Order songs - I've always thought that way. However I think the lyrics would be quite different, probably much better - Bernie never purported to be such a poet as Ian, and he almost decided it seems to me to deliberately write simple lyrics, which worked in their own way, for New Order -

[@MrCharbs]

Amazing what "six months of professional" togetherness brought to a kid from Minnesota.

[@johnblonde8589]

lifelong fan of Joy Division not that fussed about New Order but love the Hooky interviews really down to earth comes across honest and generally interesting good stuff!

[@royalnass1029]

yeah peter hook from joy division one of the best bands of all time

[@AndySalinger33]

Just ordered the book. Can't wait!

[@neoisis9373]

Interesting to hear Hooky say that about Ian would have been singing Blue Monday. I know some JD fans probably find that hard to believe. That would have included me in 1983, but I came to realise that if Ian had lived and Joy Division had continued on for years, they might well have gone in the same direction as New Order did, but with Ian lyrics and vocals. After all, the people who were writing and playing the music in JD were all in NO, and Closer already had moved into electronica, and we know Ian was into Kraftwerk, and the Bowie- Eno records.

[@ggghhjd]

There is no New Order without Peter Hook, just like there's no Joy Division without Ian. And he is really honest in his book, that is obvious, because he doesn't spare himself the stories where he looks a twat too.

[@memoryfield]

Thanks for covering the great Peter Hook. He's always got something to say that I want to hear about.

[@MultiStevo1]

Keep it going Peter. The gig I saw you do recently was one of the best i've ever been to. Never knew you were such a good singer. Please keep the Joy Division shows as well. Its amazing.

[@katoness]

Must say this is the best book I have read about Joy Division

[@brownson1970]

CAN YOU IMAGINE what the next joy division album would of had on it???

[@ChiquitoKan]

Best bass guitar ever. Period

[@SeanRupertKent]

It was the biggest dance club in the 80s-90s, literally. Joy Division/New Order funded it, and it became a huge Manchester attraction that shifted dance music.

[@uk1988tb303]

Deffo going to buy Hookys book. Just the thought he’d have couple quid royalties from a random scouser makes me grin. G.mex ‘88 best gig of my life

[@chrs1968]

He is doing good and doing it well, I love the guy and I hope he keeps being well and happy

[@russellloomis4376]

When he talked about Ian singing on Blue Monday. Is it me or does he seem to get a little choked up?

[@CarolineCarnivorous]

Just finished it, I absolutely loved it! Much better than the two other JD books I've read. I have his two other books on the way :D

[@killabees-m4t]

Absolute legend!

[@preserver7777]

...gosh, it's easy to forget they had DAY-JOBS while making this incredible music....?!

[@NoxiousRob]

Yeah, they created one of the greatest and most influential albums ever, and did it in their spare time. It's amazing.

[@johngammon963]

Martin Hannett was the real genius behind Joy Division.

[@thephoenix3155]

Hook as more charisma than Sumner.

[@jthompson2379]

He's one of the most charismatic musician storytellers, full stop. I could listen to his stories for ages.

[@ColdCanuck23]

Peter Hook is not arrogant, you're just jaded because he called Barney a "Twat". Which probably is not that far off the mark.

[@marksmith6327]

Paul Jones - I agree 100%.... but as a group it all works so well. I just wish they would patch up their differences... Songs like Perfect Kiss still make me tingle, just as She's lost control....

[@carloslima6705]

Mark E. Smith???

[@belw58]

New Order without him just seems so silly what is up between him and Bernard?

[@markusdaxamouli5196]

Hes hurt...they reallly screwed a member of their band that shoukd have at the least had been given the chance to say no...and i dont think he would have said no. Hook is a very unique sound, that belongs and is most associated with NewOrder and JoyDivision., TEAM HOOK

[@Astr0wave]

im reading the book as we speak. ITs great!!!!!

[@peterrobertson8625]

Glad to have shook your hand Peter.Well done with your books and and leaving a sound in all your fans brains with bass playing.Sometimes it happens when in conversation with someone.Actually.........your a nightmare ha ha

[@1themidget]

Bernard is a leach. Pete is from l/h HE DOES NOT NEED TO LIE. Put it all straight Pete like how loyal you are to Ian

[@Kenny8723]

Hes just announced a special tiny Cardiff show in Jan at Welsh Clwb!

[@vanceschweigert315]

Ian,s life he had a child a day job the band his mistress a life in two album's I n sanity is crazy,fun un controllable Ian thanks

[@musclethings1]

total class...

[@djh29971]

Why is Hooky annoyed that New Order reformed without him, when he had left in the first place? Getting to the bottom of that deserved a book in itself. Such a shame how things have panned out :(

[@peterliolis5482]

He left because it became Bernard Sumner''s band he took control ,those two had formed Joy Division ,Sumner had a case of the John Fogerty''s, took full control in the end

[@Tomtoms-tomtoms]

The book is a great read! Must say, saw Peter Hook n the Light live,, totally brilliant.. New order just now sound pre-recorded and dated live. In my opinion

[@mastersamus500]

He appears on concerts with New Order

[@BestUserNameUK]

Nice Breitling watch Hooky.

[@nick78447]

He is New Order.

[@marziafrate]

See you at the velvet club, rimini (italia) Nov. 9 2012

[@ColdCanuck23]

It's not selling out. His ex band members are also doing the same with New Order. Why shouldn't he enjoy performing J/D-N/O material?

[@tblends]

The Hacienda???

[@ivorytower99]

Great interview. Funny, New Order hated doing interviews back in the 80s and Hook was known for being an asshole.

[@TheAlmighty65]

his books are well worth the read. thanks hooky. and thanks for mentioning andy liddle,

[@cquilty1]

Loves to chat does this one...

[@Novacoma]

All apples and oranges, period.

[@AlcholicAlligators]

Yeah, I will agree that New Order is selling out. Peter Hook has right to perform this music since he did have a hand in it's creation. I just feel like it's a tad exploitative.

[@jpdcjpdc]

You mean Chester Bennington !!!

[@sunshine4d64]

Chris Squire. Period

[@cquilty1]

marshall 'rabbit' warren And old squire took a dirt nap shortly after your post. How delightfully ironic. Give 2019 a try...it won't bite.

[@wishwizard100]

geddy lee exclamation mark les claypool exclamation mark

[@AlcholicAlligators]

I love Peter Hook, he is the guy who really opend up bass playing for me, but I feel like he is starting to use Joy Division instead of embracing it, I like the idea of him doing a book but it makes him look like he is selling out

[@MrMoon-cg2yy]

Hey Dad!!... can you please turn down the volume on that devil music...I'm trying to study! ...so I don't end up with my teens and twenties being the high point of my life.

[@stephenpearson3153]

Sorry mate you just hanging on mr hook

[@tedex8100]

For me personally,Bernard was the weakest link in the band. Hook and Morris' musical ability were the driving force followed by Curtis' singing delivery. Just saying........

[@Dexter101x]

***** Even Hooky lauded him in this video

[@MrCamelneck]

***** Curtis sucked. I could pick anybody off the street and chances are they could sing better than Ian Curtis. He's overrated because people are intrigued by his suicide. However, Curtis wasn't without his merits. He did write some very unique lyrics which set the tone for the band's music. But on the other hand, he was a manic depressive and I'm sure his mental defects helped make his lyrics so intriguing.

[@Dexter101x]

MrCamelneck Curtis wasn't a manic depressive when he started off with Joy Division, it was only until he started suffering from the effects of epilepsy and the fact that he used to work in a hospital working with people who suffered from the same illness, "She's Lost Control" is why he wrote that song, that he thought that he was dragging the band backwards that he started suffering from depression. I don't see mental "defects" as that, all I see it was as a mental illness. I won't speculate whether this was the cause of why he wrote unique lyrics, because some of the songs he wrote (with the band) were also very good. I don't think it's because that people like him is because they are somehow "intrigued". I never knew of his epilepsy or depression or even suicide until I read more into the story of Joy Division, like you do after liking some or most of their songs, so to say its because of this or that is just plain nonsensical and pure speculation. Yeah, you do have your own taste in music, like I do, you do have the right to say whether it is good or bad, but please do not speculate like this, it might hurt people's feelings, especially those close to Ian and his family

[@stevenedwards4470]

+MrCamelneck shut your hole. im sitting here mentally drafting different ways to insult your poorly thought out comment here but I landed on "youre not worth the time"

[@underdawg2743]

Well Peter thinks that Bernard is a better guitarist than Johnny Marr so he must be pretty good....

[@genimas]

I hope that Bernard Sumner will release his book about Joy division and New order, At least for me he looks more honest person and definitely not as arrogant as Peter Hook (with all respect).

[@MrMike4uk]

what an uncomfortable interview

[@71bayou]

Bernie told me your just out for the cash.sold out years ago.

[@royalnass1029]

noiwont doit fuck bernie peter hook is the man

[@napatora]

im sure there was no bias there 🙄

[@daveyhando9536]

No band would of ever have been as big as U2

[@russellloomis4376]

Fuck U2 they're average at best. Far from being the biggest or the best.

[@PATTISONize]

all he cares about is cash. fac 251 is a joke, flogging a dead horse.... hes gone down in my estimation

[@texasknight5175]

artie fuffkin They’re still trying to pay off the Haçienda! Lol.