Kazuya Montage: Rhythmic Hallucinations

[@ViedViper]

Even though it is April Fools day, this is still unapologetically a Tombstone Crusher montage! But hopefully you'll enjoy regardless :)

[@ViedViper]

@Xeal R That is hard to say, it is definitely a tough transition. You will have to relearn all your tech (though it may end up being easier) and relearn the basics. It will also be a time dedication and you will be way worse than before you can even start to get better. Maybe you can try playing on keyboard for a bit, but it still doesn't really compare. Especially with some buttons not available on keyboard. I'm going to try and have a video going over Kazuya on smash box with layouts and getting started tips for some time next week or the week after. Maybe wait till that vid and if it looks like something you will like/won't you can use that to help your decision. It's hard to say if you don't actually ever try one though. But you can probably sell it for a lot of your money back if you really do not like it though.

[@ViedViper]

​@Xeal R Not so much hinder I would say, but more difficult at first. You have buttons to change how far the analog stick is tilted, so stuff like walking, certain DIs, drifting is all done differently. But it's more so hitting the non 8-way angles that can make stuff more difficult like fox/falco/wolf recovery angles and certain DIs as well. Which I am in no means an expert on, especially those chars recovery angles and stuff. If we are speaking strictly Ultimate, I play smash box and can't really comment on the others too much, but there are some big advantages to smash box over the others, especially for Ultimate Kazuya. Smash box has the mode button, which the others do not and that greatly benefits Kazuya as you will see in my vid. Also it is kinda nice to have an up button on the left hand, which you do not have to use, but it is there if you want.

[@ViedViper]

@Xeal R The 'mode' button is unique to the smash box atm. Iirc the 'mod' button on other box controllers is called 'tilt' on the smash box. These are the modifier buttons, mode is something else entirely as you will see in my upcoming vid. Yeah idk what is going on with the Panda controller, but hopefully your new controller issue gets solved one way or another soon enough though :)

[@ViedViper]

@Xeal R Yeah of course :) np!

[@2350CST]

Finally, a Kazuya montage that doesn’t rely on the same combo 20 times in a row! Good shit, the Gimfinite was clean as hell, can’t imagine doing it at all, let alone online LOL

[@ViedViper]

Lol thanks! Kinda what I try to go for, but also you know, Tombstone Crusher! I don't know if the last rep was true though tbh, they were really high percent, and if iirc it was 3-4 frame CD. They probably buffering jump, but I thought it was fine enough for this type of vid lol

[@2350CST]

@@ViedViper lolll, eh, I wouldn’t put it past the opponent, if it’s Kazuya and he’s only jabbing you, I’d get pissed and stop shielding and start mashing buttons I need to practice the Gimfinite since it has crazy consistent wall carry, but also just implementing Tombstone, love that Sakurai’s interpretation of high crush in Smash is just full body intangibility LMAO

[@ViedViper]

@@2350CST It's hard to tell if I get it or not online sometimes vs some opponents, but as turns out most of the time, it is no lol. yeah cr. jab tombstone is a nice niche kill confirm, but idk about grinding out the infinite, even if it may be optimal. LOL yeah I've never thought of it that way.

[@2350CST]

@@ViedViper loll, the Gimfinite really is the pinnacle of: “If your shield doesn’t come out, it’s because I’m cracked as hell at this game or you’re pressing buttons” but both still get results LOL I think in the end it might be worth it due to crouchjab never being DI’able, plus it’d work better in platform environments! But yeah doing 2 frame perfect inputs just for a single rep… yeesh

[@ViedViper]

@@2350CST Lol I guess so it does lol. Oh wow, you can't DI cr. jab? I thought it was, I just training mod pack, but haven't really tried that. yeah... lol

[@Fightzpike]

i love how instead of making it a simple high crush in smash, they straight up just gave him full body intang LMAO

[@ViedViper]

ROFL ikr, someone else just pointed that out as well lol

[@gilbertguerrero2916]

An underrated Kazuya move and the Funniest move in smash ultimate. I love it lol

[@ViedViper]

I think I agree lol! Easily my favorite move :)

[@Toasters_for_life]

"Funniest"?????

[@iluvazrael]

Move is actually insane from a CDC, love using it so much

[@ViedViper]

LOL ikr same, the I-frames! Oh and I subbed, just cause :)

[@IceeSwirl]

GOAT

[@CapnLexCrunch]

This move is alright, but it becomes amazing once you can instant FC from CD

[@ViedViper]

and the insane amount of I-frame including full body I-frames, it can challenge almost anything. The risk being that it takes 50 frames lol. Yeah much better from a CDC!

[@DMC5SE]

tombstone crusher finally getting recognition >:D @2:25 invulnerability was crazyyy

[@ViedViper]

LOL yeah and insane I-frames, probably can go through just about every other move lol

[@starter497]

Okay I see you at 1:55 ! Also it's funny because I was going to do a training session with just CDC tombstone crusher today

[@ViedViper]

Yeah you know it lol! I think the dash read was good there cause the tipper sweep on the extended hurtbox put them much further. Couldn't believe I missed the conversion though -_- I do not like combing this char lol Yeah it is really strong for challenging moves with all the I-frames. The risk is that it is a 50 frame move lol

[@starter497]

@@ViedViper yep. Don't forget it's a -20 move on shield! Literally you need ur opponent to challenge.

[@geekey3441]

this my friend, is why kazuya is the best character in the game. Even Richter, who is widely considered one of kazuya's worst matchups due to his long disjoints and zoning, can't play the game thanks to well time invincibility and armor (oh yeah and a reflector forgot about that one-). He has a counter for every option in the game. Even sonic in the later clips (who I believe is Kazuya's WORST matchup *worse then min min imo* can occasionally just lose based on good counterplay from kazuya) Also 2:10, that's barely even REACTABLE online. incredible stuff

[@ViedViper]

Yeah the character is definitely always in the game, you just need that 1 good hit per stock. But can be easier said then done sometimes though lol

[@tigergames7849]

This is a reminder that I should be using crouch punch for combo extensions and especially tombstone crusher and not just for beating options at the ledge. Nevertheless stellar video as usual.

[@ViedViper]

Thanks! Yeah insane reward on cr. jab as starter and a great combo extender. And Tombstone Crusher probably straight up challenges every move in the game XD But only for that lol, otherwise it is a 50 frame, very minus on block move.

[@realchezboi]

I forgot how strong tombstone crusher is

[@ViedViper]

Yeah! and all the those I-frames too!

[@maverickhunterstupidiocy7779]

Using the 2002 version is absolutely BASED

[@MrWoodsman]

Kazuya Mishima: Deadliest Gymnast

[@bryantomson8223]

Best Kazuya ive ever seen. How did u get so good at wavedashing like that!?!

[@ViedViper]

Lol thanks! I play on smash box and have a whole layout I use to CD/EWGF as well as some other stuff you can see here twitter.com/ViedViper/status/1535047940661706760 I still want to make a proper video going over all this in more depth still

[@mikebiff]

@@ViedViper any plans for that proper video 👀

[@ViedViper]

@@mikebiff Yeah :/ there a lot of videos I've wanted to get done :( I started a script for that one, but have not had a lot of time to make videos recently. Hopefully I'll be less busy going forward now. I'm going to try to get back into the flow things and try posting a shorter, easier to make video tomorrow though.

[@mikebiff]

@@ViedViper no worries! Take your time, glad to know you're still around.

[@ViedViper]

@@mikebiff Ah thanks! But I hope you don't expect more than some UMVC3 lol, at least for tomorrow

[@recklessbattler5931]

Super epic gamer montage

[@ViedViper]

LOL!

[@jackredfield5993]

1:54 this clip settles it i'm incorporating crouching 1tilt in to my game, the poke i've dreampt of was here all along, and it isn't back tilt

[@nanobotics]

I’m never going to get the hang of kazuya

[@ViedViper]

You'll get there, just gotta keep grinding! Just focus on a few areas at a time and build your Kazuya up piece by piece.

[@slyscoops6822]

Legit saw this video and start to spam this move and proceed to body everyone in the friendlies

[@ViedViper]

Lol nice! don't be spamming this minus, 50 frame move too much though XD

[@ryubayani1729]

Riddles and Turtle should see your stuffs. Your methods are so unique and effective. I dunno if this would work on high level, hopefully it would tho.

[@ViedViper]

They've seen stuff here and there I'm pretty sure. TYVM! I like exploring and trying new stuff :) Some of which can be a little niche, so stuff like the Ferps tech, people will see and implement much sooner cause it of course can be used much more frequently with huge reward. Whereas some of the stuff I post might not be the highest priority to add to your game. Though I still like trying to incorporate it into my game/playstyle. But Riddles and Turtle will be successful regardless and if they come across some of my stuff, they can prioritize if they want to try it or not. I'm still playing with a lot of stuff and figuring it as well, but learning lots :)

[@ProdTyraz]

New favorite montage

[@ViedViper]

Lol, Thanks!

[@siumalachi9774]

Please accept me as a student once my boxx arrives.

[@kwangos]

bro i aspire to be ur kazuya. i wanna impress my dad lol since he plays tekken

[@ViedViper]

Thanks! I pretty much just try to mess around with cool, new stuff while playing with different box layouts. You'll get there, char is just a bit of a workhorse char

[@darrito04]

OP VIPER BOSS. Truly one of many kazuya content creators I enjoy. Just a question though. Yesterday somehow, I did hellsweep into rage drive cancel and I don't know how. Like he did the animation for a split second, and the voice audio kicked in, and immediately after rage drive kicked in on a match. Is there an actual thing for this or was smash actually bugging out?

[@tkr3399]

Interesting, you're saying this was while doing spinning demon to left hook? Kick to punch? Ot the 4 sweeping kicks?

[@darrito04]

@@tkr3399 The hellsweep command. So ➡️⭐⬇️↘️4️⃣. Or in smash terminology ➡️⬇️↘️ 🅱️

[@tkr3399]

@@darrito04 Ah gotcha, interesting. That'd be sick if that were a thing.

[@ViedViper]

TYVM! Was it online? I think the moves out Crouch Dash share the same start up animations and also if it was online maybe it went into hellsweep before it registered a fully pressed B button, then gave the proper input being Rage Drive. Idk this games online can be weird and sound design is really important for online fighting games for that reason. I'd say it was bugging out, but I'll keep my eyes open for it though

[@darrito04]

Yeah it was online. I just don't know how it really happened.

[@amr.a4028]

I like this move, but is there a reason to use it over dragon uppercut? Many of kazuyas moves have a similar syndrome.

[@ViedViper]

That's a good point, but I think if you are just going to be like CDC-DB around it's probably easier to flow into Tombstone once you crouch. Still a good point though, you can definitely go into that instead or just play around what works best in what situations. Yeah whenever I hit like an F-tilt or B-tilt, A lot of times I'm like it would have been better to just Electric since that would have hit too. Of course you can always say that after the fact though.

[@amr.a4028]

@@ViedViper my thoughts exactly!

[@siumalachi9774]

Dawg what controller are you using

[@ViedViper]

I play smash box. Its a bit different than the boxx in what you can do with it, especially for Kazuya. But I am going to try to have a video out soon that goes over smash box Kazuya layout and box Kazuya stuff. Probably in like 2-3 weeks or so.

[@siumalachi9774]

@@ViedViper is that bc of the nerfs wit the boxx firmware or just difference in button layout? Also wow thank you for your effort man after binge watching your videos I consulted some servers about cdc stuff and you replied faster than them. Please have a good day brah.

[@ViedViper]

@@siumalachi9774 Ah TYVM! It is mostly cause smash box has a button called mode which you can set to force the analog stick down while holding left or right. Very useful for when Crouch Dashing or doing Electrics

[@Oz1455]

I wanted to send you a message on Twitter, but they're deactived on your account. Wanted to ask you if you could point to me what I'm doing wrong with Crouch Dashes.

[@ViedViper]

Oh thats weird, I can usually get messages on Twitter. Just at me and I can see if I can message you back. I'll also have a vid out some time next week going over my Kazuya smash box layout and how I Couch Dash on it.

[@Oz1455]

@@ViedViper Thank you.

[@Speak2Soon]

how do you crouch dash from a crouching position? 0:22

[@ViedViper]

That's the crouch jab infinite :) You can buffer a Crouch Dash cancel (in this CDC-DB) which can allow you to Crouch Dash for only 1 frame. I've shown it more here twitter.com/ViedViper/status/1453096656057114625 twitter.com/ViedViper/status/1455662740845039617 Here's the infinite and more about it kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYnIh5Vjr9p5b5Y But you can not buffer out of some moves using the c-stick CD method, since you are doing an A press by doing c-stick down, the A press/c-stick down will read as another crouch jab, up-tilt(2), etc.

[@Speak2Soon]

@@ViedViper so how do you preform the crouch dash when you're doing the infinite? just normally? like facing right, 6 5 2 3? or is there another method? and do you play on box? i play on a pad and cant imagine moving my thumb that fast lol

[@ViedViper]

@@Speak2Soon yeah I play on box and I won't be the one doing it on pad lol. It is with the standard CD method where I CD with 623 then DB cancel with 51 (neutral, db)

[@LeOreoCookiee]

how do you manage to keep cdc so consistent, that's the only thing I'm still missing with my box

[@ViedViper]

I'm going to have a video out in like 2 weeks going over Kazuya box layouts and box Kazuya stuff. Hopefully that will help with this.

[@LeOreoCookiee]

@@ViedViper hell yeah buddy, I'm still new to the box Im sure it will help

[@AvgGio]

See I dont get it everyone di’s out of my kazuya combos 🙃

[@ViedViper]

oh lol. Just focus on how to follow the DI on Electrics for the most part. For no plats follow up try a dash then a neutral jump nair will catch many DIs at a lot of percents. Then for plats you want to use the Ferps tech and catch with a Crouch Jab or DGF