Pikmin's Strange Identity Crisis

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KBash

KBash

Күн бұрын

Miyamoto, you lovable scamp.
Pikmin is such a great franchise. People who've played more than one of them know.
But the series definitely went through its share of difficulties, and has an uncertain future. In this video I cover the trilogy of Pikmin games, compare and contrast their various strengths and weaknesses, and watch a franchise do a 180, then another, to get where it is today.
#Pikmin #retrospective #pikmin4

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@theivoryguy2476
@theivoryguy2476 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Pikmin has some werid identity issues. I mean Pikmin 4 just can't decide if it wants to exsist or not!
@mokana713
@mokana713 5 жыл бұрын
Schrodinger's Pikmin
@ywnrnf6028
@ywnrnf6028 5 жыл бұрын
I hope the fourth game has greater connectivity, especially between larger areas. Pikmin Souls!
@shinyprisma6085
@shinyprisma6085 5 жыл бұрын
70th like lol
@doot7730
@doot7730 5 жыл бұрын
They say its in development remember nsmbu took 3 Y E A R S to develop so ...
@gubbebubbe4942
@gubbebubbe4942 5 жыл бұрын
@@ywnrnf6028 Pikmin but with parrying???
@alemoncitrus8285
@alemoncitrus8285 5 жыл бұрын
half of this was massive pikmin losses that were hard to watch
@kal-eldritch
@kal-eldritch 5 жыл бұрын
I used to think that Pikmin was how my friend said "Pokemon" when we were in elementary school
@davidgamingandmore989
@davidgamingandmore989 5 жыл бұрын
Justin Chery I am in elementary school all fortnite players Nintendo must grow more
@IAmCipeRamo
@IAmCipeRamo 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidgamingandmore989 wait how old are you?
@acardboardbox9386
@acardboardbox9386 5 жыл бұрын
Did you think he didn’t know the real names of the Pokémon so he called them by color like Red=Charmander Blue=Squrtile Yellow=Pikachu
@kal-eldritch
@kal-eldritch 5 жыл бұрын
@@acardboardbox9386 No, I just thought it was his minor speech impediment
@Lucaccino17
@Lucaccino17 5 жыл бұрын
It doesn't help that the early Pokemon games referred to it as PKMN a lot of the time
@SchaffrillasProductions
@SchaffrillasProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for articulating nearly every problem I have with Pikmin 2
@readysetgameover9977
@readysetgameover9977 Жыл бұрын
Surprised this hasn’t had any comments on it until now.
@fungusmeister259
@fungusmeister259 Жыл бұрын
Foreshadowing
@someguy1894
@someguy1894 Жыл бұрын
why does this just have 63 likes
@ComicSky
@ComicSky Жыл бұрын
Thank you for pikmining 2 nearly every problem i have with articulate
@chocobros1
@chocobros1 5 жыл бұрын
The real time strategy game marketed towards little kids has a conflict of identity? No way
@wave4024
@wave4024 5 жыл бұрын
imagine saying Nintendo makes games marketed towards kids when they been saying they make games marketed towards people of all ages
@GoatedYukari
@GoatedYukari 4 жыл бұрын
wave you can’t just have every demographic even tho, the primary demographic for Nintendo games are toddlers- teens
@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149
@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 4 жыл бұрын
I think you're underestimating "little kids". Why can't they play RTS games?
@TSMSnation
@TSMSnation 5 жыл бұрын
"disconnect the video" also 3 was actually kinda the opposite for me, i really like it. but it was like "wheres all the shit from 2?"
@zephyrelizabeth965
@zephyrelizabeth965 5 жыл бұрын
Most of the fun i had in two was multiplayer
@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149
@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree, Pikmin 3 was really nice. It felt like they made some backwards progress from Pikmin 2 though.
@cypher838
@cypher838 2 жыл бұрын
@@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 I prefer pikmin 3 because it takes pikmin 1 and refines everything, and also takes the multiple characters of pikmin 2 and makes the entire game to be designed around this, which allows for multitasking. The new pikmin types are super useful but never overshadows any of the other types.
@JoSilverNG
@JoSilverNG 5 жыл бұрын
Pikmin 2 is easily my favorite one.
@holyhackinghamsters4962
@holyhackinghamsters4962 5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@donsancho6690
@donsancho6690 5 жыл бұрын
JoSilverNG I love 2 and 3. I don’t think any of the two are particularly better than the other
@scoobmidi
@scoobmidi 5 жыл бұрын
Holy Hacking Hamsters yes
@starstriker4960
@starstriker4960 5 жыл бұрын
JoSilverNG but the water monster
@banjofangirl3458
@banjofangirl3458 5 жыл бұрын
But..but, d a r c c
@Purpletrident
@Purpletrident 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you were trying to be as terrible at the game as possible when talking about how bad the combat is, but...yeah you were just playing not smart. This is a strategy game, if you play it by going all in and not thinking, obviously it's going to feel bad. If you actually put thought into what you're doing, which is what a strategy game is about, then the combat is very fun.
@DudeTheMighty
@DudeTheMighty 5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! SOMEONE SAID IT! That was like watching Egoraptor try to play a 3D Zelda game. You can tell by the way he's playing that he's either incompetent or just playing badly out of contempt.
@plasticcheese7068
@plasticcheese7068 4 жыл бұрын
@James Brincefield IT'S COMING TO SWITCH BABYYYY !
@andrewjin6618
@andrewjin6618 4 жыл бұрын
"let's attack the electric enemy with all the pikmin that are weak to electricity" -utter fucking genius
@Oman666444555
@Oman666444555 2 жыл бұрын
Watching him chuck 20 pikmin BEHIND the snagrat hurt my soul. Adjust ur aim damnit
@hadoukenfighter
@hadoukenfighter 5 жыл бұрын
"its really easy to control" unless your proton jon, then you'll blame everything except yourself.
@hyrulehero2773
@hyrulehero2773 5 жыл бұрын
Too damn true.
@vwoopselkek6260
@vwoopselkek6260 5 жыл бұрын
It hurt me to watch that play through
@nostalgiafactor733
@nostalgiafactor733 5 жыл бұрын
God I like Jon but he was such a bitch in that play through
@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic1636
@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic1636 5 жыл бұрын
To be fair pikmin isn’t really beginner friendly.
@hadoukenfighter
@hadoukenfighter 5 жыл бұрын
@@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic1636 its not, but you have enough time in the game to figure things out as long as you try to not rush threw things and want to learn how to play, keyword is want to learn, which i can't say ProtonJon was willing to learn.
@moony2249
@moony2249 5 жыл бұрын
I think there's definitely a difference between Pikmin 1 and Pikmin 2's playstyle. While Pikmin 1 concentrates on you having to achieve as much as possible (raising Pikmin, gathering as much as possible and clearing enemies) in as little time as possible, Pikmin 2's cave concept concentrates on you managing a set number of Pikmin to clear as much as possible. While one focuses on time management, the other focuses on resource management. I personally actually gotta say that Pikmin 2's caves were my favorite part, so I guess I just like resource management. Pikmin 3 might've been kind of unsure what it really wants to be near the end. Most of Pikmin 3 is similarly structured to Pikmin 1. But the ending section seems alot like Pikmin 2's caves system with having you manage your resources rather than your time, even if it is a pressing issue in this section. I can see how many new players might've been a bit frustrated at that, since it throws these curveballs at you with having a not easily accessible base (so you gotta manage your Pikmins better than ever), furthermore having the enemies not be able to give you more Pikmin and also have an AI chase you. All these new things while also having the regular time limit, could easily lead to messy situations. On a different note Pikmin 3 has always been pretty messy for me. Especially the boss fights had my Pikmin scattered all over the place, with me having to spend alot of time to regroup all, which allows the boss to get in another attack. The first two Pikmin never had that kind of situation happen to me, so I personally kinda wonder why Pikmin 3's bosses give me so much trouble. The second boss was really the only organized boss battle I had in that game. Maybe it lies in the bosses changing the terrain every so often but I can't say I know why the boss battles feel so different in each game. But those would be my thoughts on the differences of the games and why Pikmin 2 wasn't as good in your eyes as the other two
@Aethozoid
@Aethozoid 5 жыл бұрын
I agree completely. I no-death-ran the first two Pikmins no problem. Well... not *no* problem, but I was able to do it. With Pikmin 3 I just couldn't. The controls are just too different and don't work with the way I play. I like the addition of both the lock-on and charge mechanics, but losing the C-stick swarming made it incredibly difficult to avoid enemy attacks and losing some of the camera angles sometimes complicated aiming. It made playing feel very clumsy and like I had very little control over whether or not my Pikmin were killed. The Quaggled Mireclops fight had me begging for the C-stick controls back. And I know there's dodging, but... I just forget to use it. But at the same time, I feel like using it wouldn't have made enough of a difference. Personally, I find the C-stick controls superior to having both dodging and charging. It doesn't have to *replace* those mechanics, but I desperately hope C-stick controls make a return in the next installment. There are plenty of stuff with the video I agree with, but I still stand with Pikmin 2 as my favorite.
@scoobmidi
@scoobmidi 5 жыл бұрын
Pikmin 2 is great
@jayman5234
@jayman5234 5 жыл бұрын
I found pikmin 3 way easier, and it was the only game I found where there really were strategies to avoid losing pikmin (eg throwing pikmin at the bulborbs eyes to interrupt it if it grabs some pikmin) while in pikmin 1 and 2 pikmin would just get snatched and devoured instantly, without giving you anything to do about it. I personally found pikmin 3 much cleaner and deliberately constructed. And the dodge whistle is actually really good. It's your fault and not the games if you forget to use it.
@Aethozoid
@Aethozoid 5 жыл бұрын
@@jayman5234 I partially agree with you, and I do love the additional bulborb weakness, as it addresses the problem of there being little that can be done to avoid them eating Pikmin if you're not be able to kill it quickly enough, and there are probably more examples like that that I'm forgetting. After revisiting the game to complete it with 100% of the fruits gathered some time after posting my last comment, I realized that I hadn't grabbed the dodge whistle that was in the Distant Tundra and had done my first playthrough of the game without ever having it. I don't think the whistle being something a player can completely miss is /inherently/ flawed... probably... but it actually accentuates a bigger problem I have with the game compared with the prequels, and that's its approach to delivery of narrative. *SPOILERS* In the past two Pikmin games, the stakes were relatively low when compared to an entire civilization being on the brink of starvation. In the main story of Pikmin 3, there was never any breathing room. Not counting needing to save Brittany and Charlie, the whole way through the game you needed to find the Cosmic Drive Key. Without that, everything would be screwed. With that in mind, there's little incentive to gather fruit beyond what you would need to consume at the end of each day. Why would you bother gathering fruit when your ability to bring it all home is at stake in the first place? And then when you do get the Cosmic Drive Key, the game just ends. I see no reason why the Koppaites would need to leave immediately after receiving the Key while not having enough food to feed their people. For my first playthrough, I just made sure I had enough fruit to survive and I focused on what seemed more important. Then I got the worst ending. And as for the difference between the pressure in Pikmin 3 and in the latter half of Pikmin 2 when you needed to find Louie, you had no idea where Louie might've been, so the pressure was lower, but constant and actually /encouraged/ for you to explore (albeit perhaps at a faster pace). In Pikmin 3 you always had a lead on what to do next, so why not focus on that and skip the deep exploration? Had the story given me a little breathing room, I think it would have been more likely that I would have found the dodge whistle at least at some point. And I don't mean to shift blame completely off myself, I was probably focused too much on using mechanics I had learned in the previous titles without mentally allowing myself the chance to learn the new mechanics introduced. Although, I still stand by my opinion that the C-stick controls should be kept alongside dodging, locking on, and charging. And I still do think the implementation of those mechanics is rather flawed (e.g. exiting lock-on mode takes away player-camera control for a few seconds; lock-on inhibits view of other enemies / surrounding hazards / Pikmin that are out of scene; exiting out of lock-on mode in the middle of charging causes Pikmin to stop charging; charging takes away your ability to consign just a few Pikmin to a task without separating them; dodging movement can be somewhat unpredictable; possibly other issues I'm forgetting). But I suppose this is just an extended explanation of why I don't prefer Pikmin 3. Sorry for the long rant. (Also I didn't even touch on the exclusion of the Piklopedia, that's a whole other thing.)
@moony2249
@moony2249 5 жыл бұрын
@@jayman5234 I agree that Pikmin 3 was easier to play. Enemies had exploiatble weaknesses that also required the different Pikmin types at times, which allowed for alot of strategic plays (Flying enemies falling to the ground after getting with a Rock Pikmin was a great idea in my opinion), however I'm not sure if I'd call Pikmin 3 "cleaner". It looks more polished, having enemies light up a bit when you target them made hitting them so much easier and the Pikmin AI is much smarter now. So why am I not saying that the game is cleaner? Mostly because the earlier two titles gave you more control over your team. Having C-Stick Controls gave you the option to choose in what formation the Pikmin should move in, which allowed for more control over your team and also an essential option to reduce casualties. I personally abandoned the dodge whistle pretty early, since I found myself having more trouble whenever some Pikmin didn't dodge along with the rest. Swarming was indeed a neat mechanic, however also somewhat flawed in itself. Having it linked to the lock-on mechanic, made for some confusing moments. I'm sure everyone had that moment, where you were already locked on a boss but out of routine, you lock-on again, which removes your lock-on mode, and start swarming the enemy but instead made every Pikmin exit the team. Obviously that's my fault but it's still somewhat of an issue. Not to mention that Rock Pikmin have their unique attribute of flying away from an enemy after hitting it once, which scatters them all around the place (Which is also why Rock Pikmin are probably my least favorite Pikmin). Not to get me wrong. The lock-on mode plus swarming mistake is always my fault and I absolutely love the swarming function. However I would trade that in for the C-Stick Controls anytime, because of the aforementioned issue of "control". All in all, I believe that Pikmin 3 didn't play easier because of better controls, but more because the environment of the world was made easier to compensate for the lack of gameplay elements that were present in the earlier two titles
@TwilightYonder720
@TwilightYonder720 5 жыл бұрын
>Pikmin 2 is too hard > Purple Pikmin make the game unbalanced you can just stun lock everything hmmm pretty sure that's why having a lot Purple Pikmin are for
@discountchocolate4577
@discountchocolate4577 5 жыл бұрын
The issue at the core of Pikmin 2's difficulty is that the buffs (purple and white pikmin & both sprays) seem like a band-aid response to the dungeons' relentless difficulty, especially in the last stretch. The giant dumbbell seems tacked on to encourage building up an absurdly large reserve of purples prior to tackling the boss rush in Hole of Heroes.
@cheatyhotbeef2636
@cheatyhotbeef2636 5 жыл бұрын
@@discountchocolate4577 I mean, there are mods to have more combat focused to balance it out, 3 Emporor Bulblax in the first cave :0
@toasturhztoastbunz896
@toasturhztoastbunz896 4 жыл бұрын
@@discountchocolate4577 In other words, a cheap, lazy fix up.
@sebtherowlet
@sebtherowlet 5 жыл бұрын
This is the darkest Mario game ever.
@davidgamingandmore989
@davidgamingandmore989 5 жыл бұрын
Except Its not mario Dunn dun dun
@ToadRoasted
@ToadRoasted 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidgamingandmore989 thats the joke dunn dun dun
@NinXuS
@NinXuS 5 жыл бұрын
david plush and more Y e A h ThAtS tHe JoKe
@SpaceLobster21
@SpaceLobster21 5 жыл бұрын
Well, I'm guessing you mean besides that one game where Dimentio kills Mario, Luigi, Peach, and Bowser (temporarily), manipulates people into doing all of the work for him, takes over their minds, and then proceeds to destroy the entire multiverse. Compared to that, the harsh ways of the food chain are NOTHING.
@ApvCoffee
@ApvCoffee 5 жыл бұрын
R/whoosh
@ApolloDawn85
@ApolloDawn85 5 жыл бұрын
Pikmin 2 is the black sheep of the trilogy. It's not bad. Definitely not (some would argue it is the best). It has amazing monster and boss designs, treasures are fun, and it has the amazing Piklopedia. The thing with Pikmin 2 is that it is less about time management and strategy than 1 or 3, it is a dungeon crawler through and through. I would not say skip Pikmin 2 if you're interested in getting into the series. Just be aware that it is very different from the other games.
@UniversalSketch
@UniversalSketch 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's mostly right but I'd like to point out that the overworld is interesting and some develop overtime like how theres bulbears that appear in perplexing pool later in the game
@ApolloDawn85
@ApolloDawn85 5 жыл бұрын
@@UniversalSketch Honestly, I find the overworlds of Pikmin 2 to be the weakest of the series. But you're right about the 2nd thing.
@bulborb8756
@bulborb8756 5 жыл бұрын
@@UniversalSketch yea that's after day 30 that reviving black and red bastard show's up in the perplexing pool since both that thing and gatling groinks are the worst things to exist in the 2nd game (which i havent played) because they don't permanently die and instead just play dead and don't even get me started on the bloody water wraith
@louiepikmin3184
@louiepikmin3184 5 жыл бұрын
Pikmin 2 is my favorite. All of them are great but, there's something about it that's just amazing. I even like the waterwraith even though it's just so unfair.
@louiepikmin3184
@louiepikmin3184 5 жыл бұрын
@@bulborb8756 You shouldn't be judging it if you haven't played it...
@bookid1581
@bookid1581 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't have much of an issue with the dungeons in 2 except when they throw random shit from the ceiling, especially the egg enemies
@radicaljoedst1365
@radicaljoedst1365 5 жыл бұрын
That's why I always ran through the room once holding a Pikmin. Louie would just sit with the others until I defused the room.
@andrewjin6618
@andrewjin6618 4 жыл бұрын
Unless you have the reaction time of a plant, those are easily avoidable
@bookid1581
@bookid1581 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewjin6618 Easily avoidable depends, its still scary to suddendly have a bomb drop on top of you
@crypticpoptart
@crypticpoptart 5 жыл бұрын
The fighting mechanics can be mastered, it's just not intuitive. I played Pikmin 2 over and over as a kid, beating myself up over each lost Pikmin, and I got pretty good. The game does a poor job of showing advanced combat such as, disbanding to abuse lock-on limits, or twisting your hand to use the c-strick and "A" button.
@junichiroyamashita
@junichiroyamashita 5 жыл бұрын
I don't get what are you talking about. What do you mean?
@crypticpoptart
@crypticpoptart 5 жыл бұрын
@@junichiroyamashita What part is confusing?
@junichiroyamashita
@junichiroyamashita 5 жыл бұрын
The last two lines.
@crypticpoptart
@crypticpoptart 5 жыл бұрын
@@junichiroyamashita When you swarm an enemy with the C-strick the game limits how many Pikmin will lock on, around 1/2 or 3/4 will attack, by disbanding they all take on the nearest task - the enemy. And the second line is about how you can swarm and throw Pikmin at the same time.
@junichiroyamashita
@junichiroyamashita 5 жыл бұрын
@@crypticpoptart ah,i thought those were pretty basic elements,weren t they explained in the first zone?
@MimicAraiun
@MimicAraiun 5 жыл бұрын
While I do think the troll bombs in dungeon crawling was bit excessive I found them pretty easy to avoid as I was always wary of them and I actually enjoyed the combat as I figured out how to kill monsters with very little causalities. I think I actually got less than 100 deaths my last run of the game because I knew how to kill quickly and efficiently, I didn't just go around punching things (except for bombs in order to kill nearby enemies) I just rushed Pikmin onto an enemy and retreated if the enemy was going to retaliate before I could finish them. I can see why you dislike Pikmin 2, but it seems mostly down to personally preferences because Pikmin 2 is my favorite out of the bunch.
@louiepikmin3184
@louiepikmin3184 5 жыл бұрын
Same.
@DoctorMario606
@DoctorMario606 5 жыл бұрын
I just played through every main line Pikmin game and I agree, I immediately got hooked, as for which one is my favorite game, I have to say Pikmin 2.
@funfan2345
@funfan2345 5 жыл бұрын
My favourite's Pikmin 3, it feels like the best and most fully realized Pikmin game, or maybe that's just my personal bias towards it since it was my first Pikmin game
@DoctorMario606
@DoctorMario606 5 жыл бұрын
@@funfan2345 yeah that game is pretty good waaay better than pikmin 1, although that game is still good.
@hyrulehero2773
@hyrulehero2773 5 жыл бұрын
@@DoctorMario606 You're implying Pikmin 1 is bad? Why?
@bulborb8756
@bulborb8756 5 жыл бұрын
@@hyrulehero2773 Pikmin 1 isn't bad, it is good but it can be glitchy at times such as pikmin getting pushed through the floor and that the Libra can bounce into the void due to a glitch and thus make the game impossible to beat as the libra is 1 of the 25 ship part's that are required to beat the game i mean i've even seen my pikmin still attacking a dead swooping snitchbug a couple times and i dont have much of an issue with my pikmin's AI aside from them randomly tripping i mean damn it steve that's the 6th time today u tripped
@hyrulehero2773
@hyrulehero2773 5 жыл бұрын
@@bulborb8756 I hear people constantly talking about all the glitches in Pikmin 1, but I gotta say(as with Somecallmejohnny to Sonic '06, for example), I just don't see what anyone is talking about. The only problems I've ever had playing Pikmin 1 have been with tripping and, one, it doesn't happen to me often, and two, when it does happen, it's never been a REAL problem for me. Do the glitches only occur in the Wii version or something? I've only ever played it on the GameCube.
@Traitorness
@Traitorness 4 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad to hear such a positive opinion of Pikmin 3, it’s my favorite one after playing them all
@YouB3anz
@YouB3anz 5 жыл бұрын
discovered your channel through this vid. good stuff, keep it up!
@johnathandamanp3729
@johnathandamanp3729 5 жыл бұрын
Edward Nunez same
@Professor-Badger
@Professor-Badger 5 жыл бұрын
My mom loves pikmin 2 BECAUSE the treasures were left behind human things. I liked it because of the dungeons and chill vibes. 3 was my favorite one though because captains got utilized and I could use the tablet to move all the captains at once and ooooouugh I loved it but my mom hates 3 because she's tbh awful.
@goldengear1000
@goldengear1000 5 жыл бұрын
THAT OPENING GAVE ME SO MUCH ANXIETY
@Smoofmaster
@Smoofmaster 5 жыл бұрын
2:04 "each day lasts 13 in-game minutes" did you mean "each in-game day lasts 13 real-world minutes"? You seem to get it right at 15:45 Cool video. Nice to hear you talk about something you enjoy and care about.
@rawman44
@rawman44 3 жыл бұрын
He did that in another video. I can't remember which one, but he referred to real world time as in game time and I was confused until I realized he used the wrong words lol
@glasssawsslipperstraws7410
@glasssawsslipperstraws7410 5 жыл бұрын
unpopular opinion: pikmin 2 is my least favorite one
@MrHocotateFreight
@MrHocotateFreight 5 жыл бұрын
Can i just add that Pikmin 3 had the best feature: first person camera mode. with some cardboard engineering, I could sit the WiiU controller wherever i wanted and have a lovely live Pikmin screensaver
@Hocotate589
@Hocotate589 5 жыл бұрын
I've been playing the PIKMIN series Since I was 4...I replay all 3 every year....in hopes that the 4th installment is announced someday...or at the very least an HD remaster for Switch of 1 and 2.
@brokendictionary8344
@brokendictionary8344 5 жыл бұрын
Now thats dedication
@Hocotate589
@Hocotate589 5 жыл бұрын
@@brokendictionary8344 it's just so fun to revisit....I play tge GameCube versions first then the Wii versions and then 3.
@spqr5843
@spqr5843 4 жыл бұрын
You are a very dedicated fan i love pikmin too but i not reach that level
@sophiej6893
@sophiej6893 5 жыл бұрын
Nobody ever agreed when I said I disliked Pikmin 2’s dungeons so I’m glad someone could put into words why I didn’t like them
@Kenisi1
@Kenisi1 2 жыл бұрын
2:43 - That impecably timed voice crack single handedly elevates the delivery of this one joke from "pretty good" to "* chef's kiss *".
@bagman4235
@bagman4235 5 жыл бұрын
"It's polygons, bro!"
@_ThatJaceKid
@_ThatJaceKid 5 жыл бұрын
No comment on the DS Pikmin? haha
@EnderIzzy124
@EnderIzzy124 5 жыл бұрын
We do not speak of Hey Pikmin. The mere mention of it's name is borderline blasphemy.
@timmijhonson9263
@timmijhonson9263 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think we can call Hey Pikmin a Pikmin game. From what I've seen, it's pretty much Kirby Mass Attack: Electric Boogaloo
@EnderIzzy124
@EnderIzzy124 5 жыл бұрын
@@timmijhonson9263 Interesting. I liked Kirby Mass Attack, despite the very different direction it took Kirby.
@timmijhonson9263
@timmijhonson9263 5 жыл бұрын
@@EnderIzzy124 Agreed, Mass Attack was really fun! The gameplay was a unique take on Kirby's usual format, and was super enjoyable. 10/10 game, and I totally need to pick it up again bc I was really bad at it as a kid.
@_ThatJaceKid
@_ThatJaceKid 5 жыл бұрын
@@EnderIzzy124 But wouldnt it be fun to hear him poop on that game? lol
@jayman5234
@jayman5234 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly think pikmin 3 was soooo much better. Pikmin 1 was underdeveloped, pikmin 2 had too much bs, but pikmin 3 looked beautiful, had great combat in my opinion, the bosses were the best in the series, and so much more balanced, and the go here function was super rewarding, it kinda made the game for me. The final boss was a bit annoying but super satisfying to nail.
@PokeminMaster
@PokeminMaster 5 жыл бұрын
Aha, a rare case of someone who agrees with what I think; Pikmin 2 was a good game - more or less - but it was extremely lost in trying to be a grand adventure and changed up the formula too much. Pikmin 3, on the other hand, feels like a proper evolution of the first game, and is ultimately my favorite of the bunch. I would like them to keep up with that direction, but if we don't see anything in the next year or so, I think I'm gonna give up hope lol
@hillbillyboyDakota
@hillbillyboyDakota 5 жыл бұрын
I love dungeons and pikmin 2 :(
@vinnie3731
@vinnie3731 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah he's unnecessarily judgemental about it.
@Purpletrident
@Purpletrident 5 жыл бұрын
Most people like it.
@hillbillyboyDakota
@hillbillyboyDakota 5 жыл бұрын
Dont get me wrong I think hes right on how to make it better
@louiepikmin3184
@louiepikmin3184 5 жыл бұрын
Same. It makes pikmin 2 so amazing.
@connorthompson66
@connorthompson66 5 жыл бұрын
That's perfectly fine! Pikmin 2 and 3 are completely different games with the same basic mechanics. One is geared towards exploration, and the other is geared towards the traditional Pikmin formula. Imagine the same painting, but a replica is made using monochrome colors. It is the same painting but has obvious differences. However, you do have to admit that the nerfs to the "Candypop Pikmin," were justified.
@googleprofiel6814
@googleprofiel6814 5 жыл бұрын
Pimin 3 is definitley the best one, and I'll kill everyone who tries to argue with me on that one. The gamepad will be missed for the instant sending captains everywhere. I've never had a game I'd play from start to finish as much as this one. It was so much fun to finetune your gameplay once you got to know the maps etc. The challenge modes are also really fun, cutting the fun of replaying the entire gme into shorter bits, and the bingo battle is something me and a friend still play to this day. The final boss may be weird, and that mud boss my be anoying to figure out. But it's the Wii U game I've played the most, and have had the most fun with in general!
@kikigarza9092
@kikigarza9092 4 ай бұрын
💀💀💀
@mashedpotatos3750
@mashedpotatos3750 5 жыл бұрын
I have nothing but love for Pikmin 2. One of GameCubes greatest next to Smash Melee, Kirby Airride, and Mario Cart Double Dash. Having said that attacking anything flying was annoying as hell and the dungeons were WAY too long
@beanieweenie1349
@beanieweenie1349 4 жыл бұрын
No way dude, the dungeons are awesome. I hope they come back!
@Gamepwner1234
@Gamepwner1234 2 жыл бұрын
Pikmin 2 will still be my favorite just because of the complete disregard that game has for the lives of your pikmin. Watching someone lose 70+ blues in a single frame to an anode beetle while doing submerged castle is beautiful
@Klinker0913
@Klinker0913 5 жыл бұрын
Pikmin 4 better come out or I will cry
@meursaulty6672
@meursaulty6672 5 жыл бұрын
Dude if we don't hear anything within the next year this series is dead, and that's a damn shame.
@vinnie3731
@vinnie3731 5 жыл бұрын
@@meursaulty6672 that's not true. I don't care what happens, I love this game. It's amazing.
@Klinker0913
@Klinker0913 5 жыл бұрын
@@meursaulty6672 I gotta feeling something will come
@TerrorOfTalos
@TerrorOfTalos 5 жыл бұрын
@@vinnie3731 That has nothing to do with the series being dead though
@vinnie3731
@vinnie3731 5 жыл бұрын
@@TerrorOfTalos ok you are correct, but still good game series.
@Cruddyhorse
@Cruddyhorse 5 жыл бұрын
I never had an issue with combat in the Pikmin games, they were fine, hell, last year after not playing them in over ten years I went back and played 1 and 2 and my total Pikmin deaths combined numbered less than 100.
@ernestocuengil1366
@ernestocuengil1366 5 жыл бұрын
Pikmin 3 is definitely either my favorite or in my top 3 games of all time
@spark9372
@spark9372 4 жыл бұрын
The thing I should mention is that the reason why blue pikmin are found so late in pikmin 3 is because there was originally going to be a 5th marshland area that would be mapped between twilight river and the distant tundra but it was scrapped and put into the garden of hope because they wanted pikmin 3 to be a launch title for the Wii U
@SpaceLobster21
@SpaceLobster21 5 жыл бұрын
Pikmin 1: really good, but low content Pikmin 2: Louie... Oh yeah, and I can't forget to mention EXPLOSIONS Pikmin 3: really good, but the bosses have a weird difficulty thing. Boss 1: easy to kill, but ends up eating lots of pikmin and can take a while to beat. Boss 2: easy if you turn on all of the lights before attacking it. Boss 3: just rush it every time it comes out of the ground or sinkholes. Extremely easy. Boss 4: If you take in an army of flying pikmin, just rush it when it tries to attack, but if it's doing the drill attack you should get out of the way first. Boss 5: This took me 4 in-game days to beat and I lost over 250 pikmin to it. It wasn't clear how much you needed to hit the feet to make it fall, they kept changing color for seemingly no reason. Boss 6: oof. The chase was incredibly difficult and time consuming, and when it came to the boss itself, it did an obnoxious amount of damage to my captains.
@dasutanehineri
@dasutanehineri 5 жыл бұрын
The biggest difference between the first two games and pikmin 3 is the fact that in 3 the onion's legs go SLSLSLUURURURRRPOP back into the onion
@GigaMan91
@GigaMan91 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone who understands why I HATE and DESPISE Pikmin 2! Pikmin 1 was a smaller and simpler game, but it was near flawless in execution.
@nickbastion
@nickbastion 3 жыл бұрын
This video is filled with so many clips that end right before disaster strikes.
@DG0964
@DG0964 5 жыл бұрын
The AI comment on Pikmin 1 could not be any more true.
@saturdazedreviews3591
@saturdazedreviews3591 5 жыл бұрын
C'mon Reggie, you big purple Pikmin... Give us a Pikmin 3 port for Switch please!!! Or even better, a Pikmin collection?
@hyrulehero2773
@hyrulehero2773 5 жыл бұрын
You do know that, at the time you made this comment, Reggie announced he was leaving Nintendo, right? And that, at this moment, Doug Bowser is in charge of Nintendo of America, right?
@saturdazedreviews3591
@saturdazedreviews3591 5 жыл бұрын
​@@hyrulehero2773 I was aware, just joking around
@hyrulehero2773
@hyrulehero2773 5 жыл бұрын
@@saturdazedreviews3591 Okay, I was just concerned about that being said without being informed, considering it was very recent.
@bulborb8756
@bulborb8756 5 жыл бұрын
i'd be down for a pikmin collection cause that would be cool
@louiepikmin3184
@louiepikmin3184 5 жыл бұрын
Or even better, pikmin 4.
@Melty-pup
@Melty-pup 5 жыл бұрын
I like your video! Fair warning- I was one of the holders of a challenge mode record a few years back before I stopped playing and was inevetably surpassed. Keep that in mind... BUT I do want to point out I felt as though this game was probably harder for you than I thought it was. I've never had much of an issue with a lot of your complaints (not that they arent valid :3) I feel like after a little practice, these are all able to be accounted for. Even the messiness of these fights can be curbed if not prevented entirely with thoughtful setup, some very fast fingers and quick thinking. (Even the first game to a degree) And I do want to mention the time limit on the third game.. I've played through maybe two or three times and the only time I ever even think about it is the first day after Louie steals everything. Which btw, he eats NONE of. So you'll get back all 30 some odd juices at once... He didn't even drink one a day or something... You get him back in like a day or two, three or four if you're slow, so if anything it gives me a reason to try for a few in game days only for this miniscule challenge to get completely ironed out in an hour. So yeah I never found the time limit as something I needed to consider. While I'm glad it's technically there, If you have any sense of urgency at all it should be a braindead achievement to not starve. The only way I could manage is if I actually attempted to lose. Plus, since you start the game with three premade juices.. and the first day gives a strawberry, maintaining the three day supply... I think it's far too easy. Too many times I actually wished there were harder challenges because I'd have an overwhelming surplus of pikmin that just wouldn't die.. kind of making it pointless to carry anything back except fruit. I want a pikmin game where they let us stay out all night.. Or something! Give me a real challenge! I was a fan of 3's puzzles. Quaggled Mireclops was my bitch though- I need this "next pikmin game" to be like the Dark Souls or Bloodborne of the Nintendo universe... Pikmin 4, genocide mode pls It's not fun if I'm not suffering. XD Great video.
@louiepikmin3184
@louiepikmin3184 5 жыл бұрын
No. No. I completely disagree with what you said about pikmin 2. The dungeons were so intense and so fun. Just no.
@johnwalsh904
@johnwalsh904 3 жыл бұрын
"Don't listen to the people who say you can only use the wii remote the gamecube controller is fine" Thank you
@harrisonhallbeck1991
@harrisonhallbeck1991 4 жыл бұрын
“It’s killed or be killed, and in such a happy looking ga- *LOUIE* ”
@shadowskyz
@shadowskyz 5 жыл бұрын
Those clips in the Formidable Oak pained me watching this. For the times to split up your captains that would of been it and seeing you cut the whistle so close was uncomfortable. but the video was ok I suppose lel
@doctjoe
@doctjoe 3 жыл бұрын
Yikes. I'm not gonna lie, it was rough for me sitting through your critique of Pikmin 2, which might be my favorite game of all time. Don't get me wrong, though. This is a great video and I loved it watching it (but it doesn't mean I have to agree with you on everything).
@liliflower1376
@liliflower1376 5 жыл бұрын
It's kinda nice to see a fresh perspective on things I really enjoyed this video
@juckt_mich_nich4992
@juckt_mich_nich4992 Жыл бұрын
i love the dungeons in pikmin 2 and they really arent that hard and the combat youre talking about isnt just "calculting risk". you can actually beat any enemy in this game without losing pikmin, you just need to know how and thats where the difficulty in every pikmin game comes in. its about knowing HOW to deal with an enemy, not just stupidly throwing your pikmin at him hoping for the best. You can even use the second player to distract the enemy. Its a tactical game, the skill that is required in combat is also tactial, if you lose your pikmin, its because of a bad tactic. Thats exactly why i love the pikmin franchise, because every time you play the game you learn something new. Im playing pikmin 2 for the fourth time now and this time im doing a no pikmin loss and no sprays challange and its actually pretty easy if you know how to abuse the specific strengths of each pikmin type and the strength of the captains.
@lamegamertime
@lamegamertime 5 жыл бұрын
Imo I am the person who likes the dungeons, and the completion stuff. Although I never got to the bomb-rocks falling from the ceiling part.
@bulborb8756
@bulborb8756 5 жыл бұрын
trap's like that can be BS so having 1 pikmin with u and that your carrying it (i.e trowing) can allow you to deal with a majority of the bomb rock trap's...i havent played pikmin 2 but i really, really want to
@RamJam3
@RamJam3 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah the bombs Rocks were BS so it was best to carry one pikmin with you and bait out the traps and use your punch. also the balancing in pikmin 2 was bad electrical hazards are instant one hit kills on all pikmin except yellow it pretty much negated using any other pikmin unless for pure necessity, carrying purples was pretty op as well but it made you play extremely careful. I do like 2 pikmin 2 it's my favorite but it has alot of flaws that could be addressed.
@meursaulty6672
@meursaulty6672 5 жыл бұрын
@@bulborb8756 wow that's actually a strat other people used too? My 10 year old brain must have been massive.
@aver2326
@aver2326 5 жыл бұрын
this man sounds and looks like hiccup from how to train your dragon
@Godzillabrawler
@Godzillabrawler 5 жыл бұрын
This video perfectly encapsulates my love for this franchise and all my feelings towards it!
@jenovalife1
@jenovalife1 3 жыл бұрын
"It's Polygons Bro!"
@K1rkhammer
@K1rkhammer 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty great analysis of the series (never played Pikmin 2 but I'll take your word on it), though I have to disagree on the new pikmin introduced in pikmin 3 being entirely balanced. They definitely made an effort to give the rock and flight pikmin specific weaknesses, but the flying ones in particular didn't fit a lot of the level design and straight up trivialized some of the games puzzle sections. Sure they do less damage, but their ability to both float over water and be commanded to objects in high places totally invalidates the practical uses of blue and yellow pikmin in the overworld. It seems like a pretty huge oversight to me and was one of the main reasons I found Pikmin 3's challenge mode legitimately more engaging than the main game itself.
@meursaulty6672
@meursaulty6672 5 жыл бұрын
Don't take his word for it, Pikmin 2 is the best of the series. True, it's entirely a dungeon crawler but the enemy designs are the best of the series, the Piklopedia is a fun touch, and I spent days upon days playing the local multiplayer, which in some ways is better than Pikmin 3 multiplayer.
@eduardorpg64
@eduardorpg64 5 жыл бұрын
Pikmin 1 is of my favorite games of all time. In general, I remember liking Pikmin 1 and 2 more or less equally, but I liked 1 slightly better. You pretty much nailed it with your explanation of Pikmin 2´s flaws: the freaking dungeons. I also restarted them a lot since I hated that my Pikmin died. I really need to play the 3rd one. Awesome video!
@Bobo_1057
@Bobo_1057 5 жыл бұрын
It's probably a good thing he didn't mention Hey! Pikmin.
@itsmebeter3538
@itsmebeter3538 4 жыл бұрын
pikmin has very good potential to be a survival horror game
@dc7981
@dc7981 4 жыл бұрын
lol no
@marmato9332
@marmato9332 5 жыл бұрын
I tried Pikmin 3 a couple of times. Done few levels, completely got my ass kicked, put it back on the shelf. Maybe one day I will make a marathon myself, thanks for the advices on the 2nd.
@DemonHeart719
@DemonHeart719 5 жыл бұрын
How do you not have more subscribers? Your videos have so much time and quality put into them it's astonishing.
@DemonHeart719
@DemonHeart719 5 жыл бұрын
Not only that, you're comedic and wittty which is rare on this platform
@butterflyexists
@butterflyexists 5 жыл бұрын
I beat the Sanbelching Meerslug after some practice. Get 4 rock bombs. Get a mixture of Pikmin, but mostly red. When it opens up its mouth, toss in a bomb. Charge at it when it falls down on the ground. Chuck red ones at it when it’s chucking sand boulders at you. I was able to do this with 3 deaths only. And those were the rock-carriers.
@alliecatcosplay
@alliecatcosplay 5 жыл бұрын
Wow your joke timing and editing are hilarious and you're adorable 💜 new sub. Here's to Pikmim4!
@nickbatt399
@nickbatt399 5 жыл бұрын
To me, Pikmin 1 is a tightly designed, tightly playing, highly ambitious and innovative classic. It's the most immersive to me and the most intimate. the small size and small play time makes it a replayable favorite that i can beat over and over.
@shape8198
@shape8198 5 жыл бұрын
Pikmin 2 is one of Nintendo's greatest games ever. It's honestly one of the most vastly improved sequels ever created. Your distain for it absolutely threw off your entire point of this video, lmao
@shape8198
@shape8198 5 жыл бұрын
"combat sucks" You just suck at it, man.
@louiepikmin3184
@louiepikmin3184 5 жыл бұрын
Pikmin 2 is a strategic game yet still holds the charm of the original pikmin and makes it SO much better. Pikmin 2 is my favorite pikmin game.
@lazarnephz4952
@lazarnephz4952 5 жыл бұрын
Ikr? 80% of the video was him complaining about how much he sucks at pikmin 2 and how it's a bad game because he sucks at it
@PokeminMaster
@PokeminMaster 5 жыл бұрын
It didn't derail his point at all; Pikmin 2 took the game in an entirely different direction. Just because he doesn't agree with you doesn't make that aspect any less true; Pikmin 3 is a more proper evolution of the first game That's not to say 2 is bad, just quite different with a different goal. "Best" is completely suggestive. You're being incredible critical for no reason
@321cheeseman
@321cheeseman 5 жыл бұрын
No.
@Praecantetia
@Praecantetia 5 жыл бұрын
Pikmin 3 was the single game that made me consider buying wii u. I didn't in the end
@punkitt
@punkitt 5 жыл бұрын
This was a journey of a comment
@Ben_of_Milam_Music
@Ben_of_Milam_Music 5 жыл бұрын
It actually wasn't that great. I beat it in less than a day, and I felt super disappointed.
@Jeremiah15100
@Jeremiah15100 5 жыл бұрын
Sold me on Pikmin 3, ordered it right after watching
@KazLordOfLightWarriors
@KazLordOfLightWarriors 5 жыл бұрын
The slight pause at the end before the endcard made me think there'd be one last GOD DAMNIT LOUIE
@nathankemp4007
@nathankemp4007 3 жыл бұрын
I was expecting it to be about what bullborbs actually are
@Weldedhodag
@Weldedhodag 5 жыл бұрын
man, and Pikmin 2 is my favorite one in the series, starting to feel like I'm the only one edit: geez, and the mireclops is my favorite boss in 3
@RamJam3
@RamJam3 5 жыл бұрын
You're not alone
@holyhackinghamsters4962
@holyhackinghamsters4962 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite boss is either the Titan Dwevel or Water Wraith (it's probably obvious what my favorite pikmin game is)
@bulborb8756
@bulborb8756 5 жыл бұрын
im not too big of a fan on the quaggled mireclops cause wow is that thing a pain to fight
@vinnie3731
@vinnie3731 5 жыл бұрын
He's my favorite too. I feel like the guy making the video is unnecessarily judgemental. Like cool you didn't like Pikmin 2, but you didn't have to make more than half the video about it.
@LudiusQuassas
@LudiusQuassas 5 жыл бұрын
Pikmin 2 is often the highest rated game in the series. And personally, it is my favorite game of all time. I just love the difficulty curve in the caves (well, maybe except for Submerged Castle's sublevel 4, but still). There are also the facts that it is still the longest and most complete game in the series (the most collectibles and the largest challenge mode, even more than 3). And the soundtrack is pretty whimsical too.
@SleepDeprivationVids
@SleepDeprivationVids 5 жыл бұрын
I never could convince myself to give the Pikmin games a shot. At least now I know if I do wants to give when I shot that Pikmin 3 is probably the best way to go.
@parkeywaddledee
@parkeywaddledee Жыл бұрын
JORD THE INTRO SCARED ME-
@LeviChurch
@LeviChurch 5 жыл бұрын
This video is a great simple analysis of the straights and weaknesses of the 3 games in the Pikmin Trilogy.
@justinbuergi9867
@justinbuergi9867 5 жыл бұрын
Time limit turned me off to after i rented the game as a kid but came back years later and fell in love with the series
@theone7097
@theone7097 5 жыл бұрын
This is the darkest Pokemon
@shinyprisma6085
@shinyprisma6085 5 жыл бұрын
i remember playing Pikmin 2 and almost completely beating it then deleting that save and doing the same thing in Pikmin 3 but i dont care it was my childhood
@jamescallahan2258
@jamescallahan2258 5 жыл бұрын
Fuck yeah. Pikmin. I think the design underplays how good the gameplay is. They need a pikmin game on the switch pronto. Even a remake of 1 with smarter AI would be acceptable. Good video dude you're making me less and less embarrassed to share you with people.
@haruhirogrimgar6047
@haruhirogrimgar6047 5 жыл бұрын
The first and pretty much only time I played Pikimin I turned into a totalitarian racist dictator. I would throw the red pikimin against the wall, let them die, and call them worthless while I made the purples the elites of society. I don't think I need to explain why I stopped playing/my friend took the game away from me despite finding my total character shift hilarious. Nice video though, I definitely enjoyed watching it.
@Sabertooth1000000000
@Sabertooth1000000000 5 жыл бұрын
This is a really good video. Also you're the only KZbinr who's ever shared my opinion on Pikmin 2.
@ShaddyFromHatena
@ShaddyFromHatena 5 жыл бұрын
Coming out of pikmin 2's massive amount of content to play around with, pikmin 3 felt very fun and a very good return to the series, but it didnt feel like it lasted long enough to warrant the price. Like yes it was a very great game, but for what, 10 hour main story? Maybe you can tack on a couple more hours for the extra content and the multiplayer is great but it just. Pikmin 2's huge variety and sprawling dungeons made the game feel very full and if you did want to full complete it there was lots of content there. You could argue it was sub par content, sure, but pikmin 3's 9 year wait for a game you can beat in a day feels... not enough.
@CyberBinary
@CyberBinary 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve always wanted to get into Pikmin but never really tried it.
@saturdazedreviews3591
@saturdazedreviews3591 5 жыл бұрын
Give them a try. They're all pretty fun
@nandernugget
@nandernugget 5 жыл бұрын
If you have a Wii U, all Pikmin games are $20. I suggest you try either 2 or 3 first.
@retrosquid4438
@retrosquid4438 5 жыл бұрын
Pikmin 2 best Pikmin 3 is second best Pikmin is 3rd best
@LitchiBorrower
@LitchiBorrower 5 жыл бұрын
I only played Pikmin 1 and 2, but I LOVED Pikmin 1 and really, really hated pikmin 2.
@retrosquid4438
@retrosquid4438 5 жыл бұрын
pokeclank Well you see, in my opinion, Pikmin 2 is my favorite because it has unlimited days so you’re free to explore at your own pace. The caves are randomly generated so you may be lucky or you might be a bit on the challenging side. The pikilopedia and the treasure hoard are interesting to read with descriptions and stuff. Also with the pikilopedia, you can throw pikpik carrots at the enemies and turn them to stone temporarily. Pikmin 2 I’d say is the best for me because it is also the hardest and I love a good challenge. Also it has a separate co-op or vs mode but Pikmin 3 has that as well, with the addition of a boss battle mode. It’s just that sometimes the ai might be a bit messy and some game interfering glitches might occur rarely but still happen. But overall I like it for its challenge level and the enemies. I respect your opinion. The reason why I don’t like the original Pikmin as much as you do is because of the delay when throwing Pikmin. It’s just unsatisfying and frustrating for me.
@LitchiBorrower
@LitchiBorrower 5 жыл бұрын
Well, the unlimited days are part of the reason why I really dislike it actually. I really loved the sense of impending doom looming ahead if you didn't do well enough, which is kind of rare in the games I usually play. Pikmin 2 not only removes the day limit, but may as well remove the day time limit, since you're going to spend any productive day inside a cave where there is unlimited time. This wouldn't be so much of an issue if the caverns were hand made, like a zelda dungeon, but the fact they're random rooms mashed together makes them a really incohesive and tedious experience most of the time. Some bits of the caves were really cool, like that bit where you find a birdhouse and can see out of it through the cracks to see the next floor, but these moments were all too rare imo. The overworld gameplay in Pikmin 2 is really similar to Pikmin 1, with environmental puzzles and bosses guarding treasure, with the major difference that in 1, these treasure were BIG objectives and were therefore really satisfying to collect, while the ones in 2 aren't really worth any more than ones you'd find in a cave, but take much longer to attain and bring back to the ship, so they feel a lot more like a waste of time, which made me dislike doing what I loved doing in Pikmin 1. Now, Pikmin 2 has some truly great additions. I was really looking forward to the piklopedia and the treasure hoard, and they're exactly what I was expecting ! I played these games recently so I didn't spend a ton of time in them but I know I would have if I played them when I was a child. They're exactly what I wished more games had, a ton of info on everything ! And they're interactive ! But because of the problems I mentioned earlier that made me dislike the game, my brain interprets it as wasted potential, making me even more angry. "Why would they include such great things a lesser game !?" I think my main problem is what I value more in games. I love short games that are concise, straight to the point and whose mechanics and stories are very deliberate and impactful a lot more than I like long, expansive games with lots of stuff to explore or fight or collect, but does all those things in a more usual and less impactful way. This alone wouldn't make me dislike Pikmin 2, I'd probably just think it was an okay game that tried some new stuff, some of which I really liked, some of which I didn't, but because Pikmin 2 is a big expansive game that's a sequel to a short impactful game, it really rubs me the wrong way.
@retrosquid4438
@retrosquid4438 5 жыл бұрын
pokeclank Ok so I just thought of something. Think of the day time limit in Pikmin 2 like a stop watch. They both don’t have limits but everyone wants to go for the best time (least amount of days spent collecting all treasures). I mean sure they could put a limit on the days but that would make it even harder now wouldn’t it? I mean there are a lot of treasures and lots to explore so I don’t think a specific amount of days would work. Lets not forget that the game also has to be friendly to some newcomers to the game. So it has to be fair and playable at the same time. Also that what I like about Pikmin 2 is that it does have some references to other Nintendo stuff. The old Nintendo playing cards, Game & Watch, R.O.B’s head, a box of Bowser matches, Blue colored Mario Paint and Peach colored Mario Paint Chalk, a Famicom disk, and finally a Gamecube control stick. Also I love how the music is actually real time so it responds to the gameplay. Music gets intense when you approach an enemy or Pikmin are currently holding a treasure, music changes tempo when changing captains, also that I love the boss music, it’s so intense and also changes depending on the attack. Things like these make the game feel more interactive and all the big everyday treasure objects make me feel so small in a big world. One more thing is that the *Submerged Castle* cave is really creepy. I’m not kidding. But stuff like this keeps me on edge and it’s fun having a little chill on your spine. Yes I do agree some cave layouts just don’t match my gameplay and you can be really unlucky at times, but trust me, you get used to it. Every time when I lose a Pikmin, I always reset my game lol. I don’t want to lose a Pikmin. I usually play on the New Play Control versions of Pikmin and Pikmin 2 so it’s easy to reset the game and throw Pikmin. I still respect your opinion. The pressure of remaining days does keep you on edge constantly, but limitless days do give you more time to appreciate the aesthetic. If you didn’t know, most of the Pikmin 2 overworld places are actually previous places of Pikmin. For example: Perplexing Pool = Distant Spring, Wistful Wild = Impact Site + Final Trial, and last but not least, Awakening Wood = Forest of Hope. If you want a time limit, you should go check out the challenge mode and if you want 1v1 action, go try out co-op. I also love the cutscenes and the title screen easter eggs.
@LitchiBorrower
@LitchiBorrower 5 жыл бұрын
I totally respect your opinion as well ! I'm just trying to explain why mine is different. I don't really try to rush through games on my first playthroughs, so I sadly didn't find getting all the treasures in the least amount of days a compelling goal because of the lack of a reference as to how well you're doing. Before finishing the game you'd have no idea if paying your debt in 20 days was fast or slow, so you'd have no idea while playing for the first time if you were doing a really good job or really taking your time. Considering a time limit in pikmin 2, without changes, yeah it wouldn't work. Too many items to collect; they'd either go with too short a time limit and annoy every completionist or too long a time limit to the point where it'd feel so far away that you wouldn't feel any need to hurry, making a time limit pointless. But honestly I feel like there's a lot of really uninteresting or duplicate items that could have been removed to make the ones left feel even more special (but again, we're going back to me wanting less instead of more). I do disagree that the game has to be friendly to newcomers, especially since this is a sequel, which more often than not assume you've played the previous games (not saying that a sequel HAS to be harder or that it shouldn't be friendly to newcomers, just that it doesn't NEED to be). In this case, I understand why they removed the time limit (as said in the video, it put a lot of people off) but to me it makes the game less unique since, as I've said, Pikmin 1 is one of the only games I played that required this amount of time management and that made it stand out in my mind. I played both games on the New Play Control versions but using an emulator so I could play using an xbox controller in the left hand and my mouse as the pointer in the right, for what felt to me like an even better control scheme (although I play a lot of games with keyboard&mouse, even from genres where most people would use a gamepad), and I only reset days after big losses in the caves that felt kind of unfair or ENORMOUS losses in the overworld. And again, Pikmin 2 adds stuff I really liked, the cutscenes and main menu easter eggs being some of them, I'm just a bit annoyed they're not in the game I like the most..! I haven't tried the challenge mode since I was mostly interested in playing the main campain, so I can't say if I'd like it better or not.
@tysonasaurus6392
@tysonasaurus6392 4 жыл бұрын
When the clam shut, I felt that
@Homodemon
@Homodemon 4 жыл бұрын
"SHEEGAIROH MIYAMOH" Subbed.
@PurpleColonel
@PurpleColonel 4 жыл бұрын
You avoid the meerslug by getting the fuck away from it cuz it's like the biggest thing in the game up to that point
@MrRyu719
@MrRyu719 5 жыл бұрын
Whatever is happening to Pikmin 4 I think I'll still love it as much as the other 3.
@scarface7320
@scarface7320 3 жыл бұрын
Dude I love those dark jokes
@nobiggyvinney7367
@nobiggyvinney7367 5 жыл бұрын
I think it was a good thing they added more even if it wasn't much and changed up some mechanics, it does literally the complete opposite of call of duty. I wouldn't say it has a identity crisis if it has the same base mechanics ya know...USING THE PIKMIN, that hasn't changed just the surroundings and game design. I understand some things did get tedious and obnoxious but the title doesn't make sense. The only thing I think has an identity crisis in this game is the difficulty cus it went from normal to hard to easy and I'm not hating on you and love the vid.
@thelooch7002
@thelooch7002 4 жыл бұрын
I've only ever played Pikmin 1 - would love a Switch port of 3.
@moonbound6478
@moonbound6478 5 жыл бұрын
I've only played pikmin 1 and boy did it take me awhile. I was worried about my pikmin a lot and trying to get at least 1 or more ship parts. It wasn't going well, so with my new found knowledge I restarted the entire game and I was ahead by a day, sometimes two days. I'm going to get the other two, pikmin 2 first since my gamepad charger is broken, but I'll probably won't be as worried since there's unlimited time. 1. Bosses in pikmin 1 seem to be apart of the environment. What I mean is that they don't have a special arena for the most part, no cutscenes either. So when I ran into one I was surprised since most bosses in most games have a cutscenes stating it's name. Not sure pikmin 2 but pikmin 3 isn't the same which just doesn't fit the theme of pikmin imo. 2. Does anyone know why they got rid purple and white pikmin? Purple seem obvious but Rock pikmin are kind of the same. White pikmin seem like a good idea, they should've brought it back. 3. When he said that they fixed the pikmin distraction issue; I feel like it was supposed to be an issue. Think about it, these pikmin aren't sure if they trust you fully yet. Then they start listening to the captains more and more as the series continues. It seems that the pikmin now trust these type of people.
@holyhackinghamsters4962
@holyhackinghamsters4962 5 жыл бұрын
Purple and Rock are extremely different
@moonbound6478
@moonbound6478 5 жыл бұрын
@@holyhackinghamsters4962 it seems the only difference is that one can break glass, if there are any others I'd like to know
@holyhackinghamsters4962
@holyhackinghamsters4962 5 жыл бұрын
But It's Poorly Animated purples count as ten pikmin when carrying things but are really slow. They also stun enemies and do a lot of damage and can latch on to enemies. Purples will come from candy pop buds. They also aren't thrown in an arch they do half of an arch and then slam down on whatever's there. They do not have any resistance. They got nerfed in pikmin three though. Rock pikmin don't latch on they continuously ram into an enemy, like you said they brake glass, and cannot be crushed. Rock's are normal speed, are grown naturally, count as one pikmin and are thrown in an arch. They both very useful in their games.
@Commander_Bowling
@Commander_Bowling 5 жыл бұрын
I know this comment is super late an you will probably never see this, but to KBash and any new Pikmin player who became interested in this fantastic franchise thanks to this video, you can charge the Sandbelching Meerslug's mouth when he is buried in the ground. That is how you fight the boss without losing a Pikmin. Honestly, that boss is the easiest in the game thanks to that trick.
@bungabean3292
@bungabean3292 4 жыл бұрын
I have clocked in at least 100 hours into pikmin 3
@colincheese7550
@colincheese7550 5 жыл бұрын
While I was fighting the Hairy Long Legs I had a full on panic attack after it killed 49 of my 50 yellow Pikmin. It was terrifying! Also why the hell wasn't Brittany added to smash? She is best girl.
@matthewhenry86
@matthewhenry86 5 жыл бұрын
Pikmin 2 is probably my favorite. I'm not an RTS guy and I like to take my time. I'll concede that 1 and 3 have better design, but I just can't enjoy an RTS on a timer. Though I do prefer 3 to 1 by a lot. The time limit feels more forgiving since you can always go and grab some fruit, even though I consciously know that 1 has an obscenely long time limit for how quickly you can collect the necessary parts.
@meursaulty6672
@meursaulty6672 5 жыл бұрын
Don't get me wrong, 1 is obviously the precious granddaddy of the bunch, but playing that 3D strategy/puzzle game as a 10 year old and having 6.5 real hours to beat it was hellish and anxiety inducing.
@menph1096
@menph1096 5 жыл бұрын
Pikmin 2 was the ideal Pikmin
@louiepikmin3184
@louiepikmin3184 5 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. If they improve the dungeons a bit more, it would be absolutely amazing. I like them but, they can have too many floors.
@lazeddonut
@lazeddonut 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't think someone could be this bad at Pikmin.
@TheAudacityChannel2020
@TheAudacityChannel2020 3 жыл бұрын
All the games are AMAZING!
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