Atomy MLM Deep Dive | The truth about Atomy, watch before joining or buying | ANTI-MLM

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KBeautyHobbit

KBeautyHobbit

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@thomsewell2361
@thomsewell2361 Жыл бұрын
My wife has been through many MLMs and I hated every single one, except Atomy. Why I don’t mind Atomy: she could buy what she wanted without some kind of product “starter pack”, only paid for her specific product(s), there is no fee to join Atomy and start shopping, no cancellation fee- your account is removed if you purchase nothing for 1yr. from date of last purchase, and to maintain membership to shop Atomy, just buy any single product like hand soap- cheap and simple. Or if it expires, just make another account since you do NOT have to do the business to simply enjoy the products. My wife only buys some skin care, kitchen/cooking items once every few months. It’s simple, no fuss, and she’s not hounded to do the business. I should mention she did earn 50 dollars without trying, but that took 2 years- mind you, she has not been signing people up, but others above her have been. So it does seem like the people involve help one another succeed.
@paulamcfall881
@paulamcfall881 2 жыл бұрын
It is not $20 a month it's only one product a year to keep your membership open and the products are at the lowest price below corporate prices we are going to be an Amazon Distributing Company in the near future we've already surpassed all the other mlms in volume of sales because the products are the very best products at the lowest price
@missdesireindependance5194
@missdesireindependance5194 2 жыл бұрын
I was apart of it but my account is probably closed.
@pkkim9384
@pkkim9384 Жыл бұрын
@@missdesireindependance5194 I can help you with a new account :) And yeah, it’s not $20 a month lol Not sure where in the world she found that info 😂
@SuperTrupatriot
@SuperTrupatriot 7 ай бұрын
1 product a year
@AtomyenBarcelona
@AtomyenBarcelona 5 ай бұрын
where that $20 monthly fee info you got it? surely you dont know what you are talking! dont give BAD information to people
@dollarbilz
@dollarbilz Жыл бұрын
My wife's parents are in Atomy. I like the products, and as far as I can tell (don't know for sure because my wife buys the stuff), the prices are reasonable and the quality high For the most part, the company seems benevolent. I appreciate the fact that you only have to purchase one thing a year to maintain membership, and no joining fee, so there's no pressure. I haven't heard of any other MLM that does that. BTW, I detest the MLM model, but so far Atomy seems pretty good. In general, my opinion of Atomy is positive. That being said, someone from my wife's parent's upline invited herself over to our one-bedroom apartment for a week (originally supposed to be 2 weeks!) to sell us on being more active in the business. We spent 6h yesterday having me watch compensation videos on youtube and one of her giving an acceptance speech to an empty auditorium ("It was COVID" says my wife. Uh huh, ok) where she won a 300k prize for hitting Emperor Crown level or some such, and called herself beautiful no less than 3 times during that speech. She's like 70. There's you-go-girl cute, and there's delusional. I don't like her that much and I swear to fucking christ I'll lose it if she makes me watch another video of some cocky Korean throw business mumbo jumbo in my face like I don't have an MBA (which I do). I might just have been drunk when watching it, because I wouldn't have been able to get through it otherwise, but the details confused me, and now I know what normal people feel when they get hit with a bathtub full of numbers. Anyway, wish my sanity luck. 6 days to go. I will still keep an open mind, and I know one person isn't the company, but it seems to me that the focus of any company should be on promoting the virtues and benefits of the products, not on how much money you'll make if you recruit others. I don't appreciate that.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
From one MBA to another - good luck. 6 hours is a lot of unpaid time to be watching comp videos 😂
@Mikeghosn
@Mikeghosn 5 ай бұрын
There is no monthly subscription. You must purchase at least 1 product a year to stay active. That’s it. It could be $5 for toothpaste
@creakyjoints8300
@creakyjoints8300 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your effort making this video. You analyse their operational system with a working example based on what is available to you. To all those refuting her claims, help her out by providing the financial numbers she questions. One way to find transparency in a company is to follow the money. Keep up the great detective work lady!
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Atomy members like to pick one insignificant inaccuracy and then use that to say the rest of the arguments are invalid. But at the end of the day, stats clearly show that very very few people make money in MLMs, and atomy really is no different despite all of their claims otherwise.
@PatrickAung93
@PatrickAung93 Жыл бұрын
that is a prime example of strawman fallacy. If you even spared time to read the critism, you would know we are not just making "hoo haas" We are correcting her false information that she is putting out. PLUS all income disclosure also includes PURE customers. for every 1 business builders, there are 9 customers, whose only intention is to purchase products. not do business. including them in would make the income disclosure looks grim to those who do not know what goes into the numbers. Get educated or don't comment on it.
@cenidgonzalez8149
@cenidgonzalez8149 Жыл бұрын
For real
@paulamcfall881
@paulamcfall881 2 жыл бұрын
I have been in this for 5 years and I've never been pushed into buying anything
@smileday9088
@smileday9088 2 жыл бұрын
Do you take profit from this company?Does it really work?
@Atomysway
@Atomysway Жыл бұрын
Same here. 6 yrs in Atomy. My kids are always sick before, but when i change to Atomy brands? Thank God they are more healthy now. Evne my wife has now normal blood pressure.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
Gotta love health claims 😂😂
@annamerkushev1320
@annamerkushev1320 Жыл бұрын
​@@smileday9088 yes it works! Absolutely! If you want more information I can contact you😊
@Senaliah
@Senaliah Жыл бұрын
​@kbeautyhobbit You clearly lack understanding of the topic, my friend. Just to clarify, I'm not associated with Atomy. I'm actually involved with a different MLM and I'm quite satisfied. I challenge you to gain a deeper insight by experiencing it at a more advanced level over a few months and perhaps even create a video about your experience. Best of luck!
@ShirleySime1rolfefinancial
@ShirleySime1rolfefinancial 7 ай бұрын
Their products are actually outstanding considering the price is very reasonable and affordable. I would keep buying.
@angelsvanity6279
@angelsvanity6279 Жыл бұрын
Literally a waste of time. If you havent been involved personally or a success academy event then you don’t know. This brand has been the best “mlm” company. We don’t sell the product, it sales it’s self.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
I agree - MLMs are a waste of time. Would love to see an income disclosure to see how truly “the best” it is.
@livegoodnow5028
@livegoodnow5028 Жыл бұрын
I like Atomy. I joined them on Jan 2023. I like their products, but most are too pricey. So I am happy that Atomy wants the members to purchase once a year to keep their membership going! Also on my left leg, I have over 200 members that Atomy gave me! :)
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
The products are pricey because they “feed” levels and levels of reps.
@PatrickAung93
@PatrickAung93 Жыл бұрын
@KBeautyHobbit strange. Kind of like how warehouse products are cheaper than the retail outlets' counterparts. Maybe they up the price to feed the middleman. But anyways...
@PatrickAung93
@PatrickAung93 Жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit some atomy products are more price competitive as compared to retail products. And yet they maintain their products quality
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
Yes yes, every single warehouse worker makes money by recruiting more warehouse workers and they each make a % off of the retail price… oh wait… 😂😂😂 thanks for the continued engagement 👌😝
@PatrickAung93
@PatrickAung93 Жыл бұрын
@KBeautyHobbit false equivalent fallacy We're talking about pricing and now you start talking about how the operation is run. Sure I will go with your flow even though it is not related at all In atomy, we can have customers who do not do business at all. They just happily purchase the products with NO intention to even sponsoring another soul. They exist. In my organisation, they are about 90% customers. The leaders are the one putting other customers under them. Now in warehouse and retails, it seems like they do not need to "recruit" but they have to continuously look for customers 😉 every month they have to hit quota. And they have to hit quota forever. Cos the customer can go ahead and choose other brands the next time the next month the next purchase. However, in atomy, when we have real loyal customers, and we keep "looking for" loyal customers, there will come a point in time when we have enough loyal customers to get that nice passive income. And oh, your engagement is looking terrible since you make such misleading video your comment section is full of people trying to correct you which you blatantly ignore, I am boosting your algorithm to let more people know how silly you are 😄
@thefreelanceworker3491
@thefreelanceworker3491 2 жыл бұрын
You did not even try to correct your mistake when you said that members are required to spend 20$ a month. Where did you even get that?
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
I listed all my sources in the comments and acknowledged your comment about that. This is not the key point. The key point is that joining Atomy will likely not result in income. I’m not sure how much more clear I can make that. I’m also really not sure what makes you keep coming back to the comments. It must have really touched a raw spot for you :)
@thefreelanceworker3491
@thefreelanceworker3491 2 жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit Your key point is based on what grounds? Base on what you know about other companies? Come on? You don't even have the details right and you did not even look at the products. This is the reason why I kept coming back. Not admitting your inadequacies and mistakes is one thing but defending it is another. Now you are making a statement that is safer and generalized. You know what? joining anything but not doing anything will definitely not result in income. That is true to every type of opportunities. That is the same as joining YT but not making any videos. You will not earn anything. You know what, instead of dealing with things you do not know about, just do what you do best. Make a review about the product. You don't even have to test them. Just tell people how ridiculously expensive it is as you claim it to be. Look for a cheaper alternative with same ingredients and quality. Maybe products that were manufactured by the same company but not an MLM. That's how reviews are done. You base it on actual facts and not just from your baseless assumptions. Other MLM's are like this and like that so Atomy must be too. You don't have to do it if you don't like too. You're not crazy about being accurate anyways. You just want to be an anti MLM no matter what. That's ok. My purpose here is to make it clear that you do not know what you are talking about.
@alanie8555
@alanie8555 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefreelanceworker3491 you're so delusional till the point that you have to keep reassuring yourself by posting a fuck ton of comments that you're not being scammed (surprise-surprise, you are), its sad.
@Atomysway
@Atomysway Жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit Sorry, but making a video on discrediting a company based in your own speculations is an UNETHICAL way. You are spreading wrong information and you can be liable for it. If somebody spread bad things about you personally based on speculations? What do you think is your response?
@pkkim9384
@pkkim9384 Жыл бұрын
@@Atomysway I challenged her to do a one on one live show but she didn’t accept it. Maybe we hit her raw spot about how wrong she is :) And yes, she can be held liable for falsely accusing company with wrong information
@EleanoraDzen
@EleanoraDzen Жыл бұрын
I’m here because I have some skincare but I had no idea they were an MLM until I saw PV on their website.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
Had no idea it was an MLM? Not sure I understand your comment fully ❤️
@EleanoraDzen
@EleanoraDzen Жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit oh gosh, sorry! yeah that was a tired brain comment, fixed!
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
Haha I get it, I have a tired brain most of them time 😅
@lermaukegbu6068
@lermaukegbu6068 8 ай бұрын
So what if it’s an MLM? What is important to me is the quality of products I buy from them that I have already been using. Have you ever been given back pay for all the products you have been using like toothpaste? Toothbrush? Detergent and other household products? Well, I have and those I have recommended the products to are very happy with their Atomy product purchases. Of course there are many options of products anyone can purchase from anywhere, but as for me, I like the quality of products I buy from Atomy. No body forces me to buy them. They are worth the price I pay for them and will definitely recommend people to try and be convinced. On the business side, if the company shares with me some profit, why will I decline? I don’t believe you will decline it too. One correction on the presentation is, there is no $20 per month membership fee. I don’t know where the presenter got that information. Cheers! Go Atomy!
@NyaNyaJP
@NyaNyaJP Жыл бұрын
I am using Atomy products and refuse to get involved in the business side but am pressured to do it all the time. I have a full time job and if people are interested in my skin care, I will tell them. I know some distributers that have it as a full time business. They are very generous and happy to help but not everyone has the time, space or energy to do that. I am happy to help them but I only do what I can. The products are wonderful and not that expensive. I only buy what I need, that sometimes annoys my uplinks, but I have nearly every product they sell in Japan already. I don't pay attention to PV but if a downlink needs the PV, I will buy under their name to help make matches. Sometimes I get money back, but I don't care if I don't.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
Yeah buying stuff you don’t need to help someone else make PV is exactly the issue with MLMs. It’s not genuine sales - it’s a pyramid
@yessir4385
@yessir4385 11 ай бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbitshe is saying she buys it under their account but the product is still coming to her. She’s not buying it for them, only to help them get more pv. She still gets the products for herself
@kpanaram1
@kpanaram1 11 ай бұрын
No. The PV are shared wıth all members in the same line. You are so wrong.
@pratibhasaxenahwh495
@pratibhasaxenahwh495 2 ай бұрын
That's the beauty of this business
@pratibhasaxenahwh495
@pratibhasaxenahwh495 2 ай бұрын
​@@kbeautyhobbitno... No... U have not understood Atomy Business, I request u to kindly study all minute details with open mind..... It's not MLM, please please study Atomy with an open mind..... I m sure u will fall in love with Atomy. It's just amazing ❤
@vijayajathar645
@vijayajathar645 Жыл бұрын
I like atomy and it's products and the business too. Don't believe unless you use and experience it. Atomy products are the best
@kerry8461
@kerry8461 Жыл бұрын
Well put together and concise video. I’m so glad you made this. Never heard of the MLM, and I am kind of shocked that they would try to sell K Beauty since like you there are amazing products available for much cheaper in the general market. The lack of Income Disclosure is very interesting. Is it not a US based brand so they don’t have to make it public? Not that many new recruits would look for it. Thank you for putting this out there! I hope you save some people from harming their wallets and relationships
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
There’s no requirement even for USA based companies to release an income disclosure. Companies that do it are doing it voluntarily and get to make up their own rules on what they include and what they don’t. Just like with USA companies like Mary Kay, there are more affordable drugstore options or luxury brands for the same price, but people still join and purchase MK. With atomy it’s the same. And if you read through the mess of the comments, you’ll see that some people are adamantly into Atomy. I did have to block one after he started dropping the R bomb, but all the other comments should be up.
@pkkim9384
@pkkim9384 Жыл бұрын
Kerry, please feel free to read my comment that I had written but income disclosures are voluntary by each company but Atomy surely discloses the how many people are earning above certain amount. I work for a big corporation and what I do for living outside of Atomy is a Commodity Manager. All companies focus on profitability only when it comes to business to include all k beauty companies. I am 100% confident that Atomy skincare would be the best quality that you have used while being the most affordable with cost to the quality you receive. I will not say that they are are not the cheapest because you can goto some cheap market for better pricing but Atomy surely will be the best for your dollars spent. I’ve been with Atomy as a distributor for 3+ years and I am one of the main speakers for this company. I am forever grateful to have found such an ethical, generous and genuine company that’s not sorely profit driven but truly think about their customers and people that are in need around the world. Don’t just watch one video of hers, which I challenged her in many different areas that she was wrong. You cannot possibly do 2-3 hours or days of research and learn everything about the company honestly. This is unfair to Atomy . But hey I am a veteran and fought for the freedom of speech, even for the people that misrepresent the organization as such
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
Who cares how many people earn above a certain amount if that’s only 0.00000005% of the company, for example. If a good % of people made money, atomy would be proudly parading its income disclosure and showing everyone how “different they are from other MLMs”. It would be a great recruitment tool as well. Even the companies that do disclose paint a grim picture. Atomy must be even worse than Monat and others 🤭
@pkkim9384
@pkkim9384 Жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit why does someone have to make money if all they are doing is shopping at Atomy website? Now I am wondering how you attained your masters degree, is that real? Because I wanted to recommend that school to folks that want to get masters degree without much effort lol
@5veast2west53
@5veast2west53 Жыл бұрын
@@pkkim9384 🤪🤪
@missjet9060
@missjet9060 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been exposed to so many network marketing and recently been introduced to atomy because i complimented her skin and thats when she told me about her skincare and thats how i learned about it. To be honest ive never liked mlm’s but I do like Atomy. They have great products and reasonably priced. A pack of sponge for example is 5cad for a pack of 4, same proce as what u get from supermarkets and dollar stores but theirs lasts so much longer and doesnt smell. Not sure what your channel is about bit it looks like u review K beauty products so u should have focused on reviewing that part of Atomy products, but you delved into their area of business you have small knowledge of with a prejudice so now you find yourself defending your misleading content from people who actually know about it. Why wud i buy atomy products when i can buy it from other companies. Because i like the company, their values and their culture and i trust the efficacy of their products. Also other companies dont pay me back for my purchases and the purchases of other members I have registered, they keep the profits to themselves, getting a share of the company’s profit sounds better to me. I have never met an atomy rep that sells hard, but if they do, its an individual decision, some take it seriously because they have a goal theyre trying to achieve so maybe they are more aggressive about it, you have to respect their hustle. I think what u should have done is became a member first, learned the business side of it and tried their products first without prejudice before you publish a content that way your lomoted knowledge dont mislead people.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
One doesn’t need to join a cult to talk about why cults are undesirable. Highly recommend the newly published book “Hey, Hun” by Emily Lynn Paulson. Good luck.
@missjet9060
@missjet9060 Жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit i would but based on this video and how you reply to comments you have no credibility to me so, i wouldn’t waste my time woth your recommendation no matter how highly. Just because people like the products and they’re calling you out for publishing incorrect information as “truth” doesnt make them a cult, and calling them a cult because you cant admit you’re wrong doesnt make u credible.
@bumakev360
@bumakev360 Жыл бұрын
​@kbeautyhobbit You are just looking for views and people who think like you to buy your views on atomy. Atomy has great products maybe just try their toothpaste or body wash or body cream. For the business part you just hate MLM and see no reason anyone should do mlm. Very inaccurate. MLM is a great way to make a living and atomy is the best in it's strategy. Atomy doest do any advertising just so you know.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
Every KZbin who makes videos wants views. That’s nothing new. Atomy doesn’t have to do advertising, the reps happily do it for free as we can see in this comment section. Again, if it’s such a fantastic business opportunity how come they won’t release an income disclosure?
@bumakev360
@bumakev360 Жыл бұрын
@kbeautyhobbit ooh yeah and I am happy doing that because I'll love to see people enjoy good products like I do. Atomy has the easiest way for anyone to spend their money on what they're already buying at other shops with no rewards whatsoever but Atomy allocates points value on almost all its products which means you'll eventually make money if you continue to use the product and share with others. And just so you know as a member of Atomy, to keep your account active, you only have to purchase 1 product even if it's just 1 dollar or whatever you want to buy in a year. If you are watching this video and come to the comments section and want to know more about Atomy, watch other people's testimonials about Atomy products' quality and pricing. Atomy has the best toothpaste some people are in Atomy just because of the quality of the toothpaste try it. Stop spreading wrong information about a company you know nothing about your interpretation of whatever you researched or read is completely misleading and incorrect. Am saying this because I've been with Atomy for 2 years now.
@paulamcfall881
@paulamcfall881 2 жыл бұрын
None of us would be stupid enough to use our own money to buy and buy and buy our PV that's not what this is about
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah yeah sure
@kerry8461
@kerry8461 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s pretty clearly not the case for many people in MLMS.
@pkkim9384
@pkkim9384 Жыл бұрын
@@kerry8461 I agree but I would welcome you to chat with me and I can explain why Atomy has a righteous marketing plan :) I earn about $2500 a month as a passive income and I have a full time job as well. I thank God to have found Atomy in my life and affecting many others’ lives. I am so happy Atomy doesn’t require member ship fee nor Autoship.
@adelabarnes110
@adelabarnes110 Жыл бұрын
Atomy you have nothing to lose and they don't promise you to get rich.
@tinasatingin4021
@tinasatingin4021 Жыл бұрын
I’m a member of atomy, the good thing about this company you dint have pay anything to become a member all you need to do is sign up like what you’re doing in Amazon or other online shopping. In order for you to keep your membership all you need to do is purchase anything once a year. If you want to be in a business then you have yo learn the marketing plans, which most people don’t want to do and stay as a consumer. There’s nothing to loose the products is great high quality.
@felizgaylord
@felizgaylord Жыл бұрын
High quality my ass
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
It’s not like amazon, because Amazon doesn’t pay you for recruiting more amazon reps 😅
@hambaallahswt3190
@hambaallahswt3190 Жыл бұрын
Atomy much better than Amazon or other websites shopping
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
@hambaallahswt3190 hahaha no it’s not 😂😂😂 why lock yourself into one brand when you can have entire amazon and don’t have to sell anything to friends and family.
@pliem
@pliem Жыл бұрын
Wanttoknowatomuy?
@nsz3037
@nsz3037 Жыл бұрын
The comment section is WILD! And I kinda feel even more uneasy after reading these comments coz I'm getting the vibe of cult and stuff;'). I have a question. My aunt has been using these products for some years now; just buying stuff for herself without recruiting or selling any of the products. She's been telling me to use the products(which I do not have to pay at all and she paid it for me) and I finally went along as the products seem to work on her. It's been about 2 weeks now since I've used the product but I'm kinda scared it would make my skin worse or anything and so, I have been searching and googling the reviews which are difficult to find. Do you think the products are scary and could cause negative impacts too as it's an MLM product?
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
To be honest I don’t know, I’m not sure how they are regulated (if they are). MLMs in general don’t have a good track record for being upfront and honest, so I personally do not trust them. And yes, the comment section is absolutely wild 😬😬😬
@missjet9060
@missjet9060 Жыл бұрын
The comment section is wild because your claimed your apeculations as “truth” . You werent fair or honest nor did u offer an actual product review. U spoke negatively about the business side and what your oponion of it is when u dont know the half of it. I think thats very irresponsible.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
@missjet9060 please share an income disclosure - I used the materials available in Atomy’s own promotional videos. Also maybe ask yourself how much you are making per hour commenting here and defending the company that doesn’t pay you for any marketing. Only for actual sales or recruitment ;)
@missjet9060
@missjet9060 Жыл бұрын
The Absolute skincare have recieved IR52 Jang Young-shil Award in Korea. According ko Samsung’s website who also won this award, ..”this award is given to Korean companies and researchers at Korean technology research institutes that led industrial technology innovation by developing new technologies and products.” That to me means the reasearchers and scientist have created an great product and im inclined to believe that more than this video. Whether the mlm side of atomu is profitable or not depends on who’s speaking but has no bearing on the quality of the product. Imo
@missjet9060
@missjet9060 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@kbeautyhobbit what you choose to not understand is that not every atomy member wants to build a business out of it or earn. Its an option, u can if u want to but u dont have to. Its not rocket science but u seem obsessed with maligning a company u dont know. So many people in ur comment section telling u ur wrong and u call them a cult. 😂 u want financial disclosure be a member and ask for it. No one in their right mind will show u their fiancials just to convince you because why would they?
@paulamcfall881
@paulamcfall881 2 жыл бұрын
I was very poor when I came in there I didn't have the money to buy and buy and buy but so many people join with me that they buy when they buy and I get their PV also it's that simple
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
Right. They buy, you get paid - classic pyramid
@smileday9088
@smileday9088 2 жыл бұрын
Are you rich enough now?☺️
@Atomysway
@Atomysway Жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit You have been buying your household products all your life. Are you earning from that expenses? It is also a typical pyramid, because only the manufacturers earn from that. Unlike in Atomy that every consumers has now an equal opportunity to earn from their own daily personal expenses. You are complete MORON for making a video that you do not know nothing about.
@pkkim9384
@pkkim9384 Жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit who earns the most amount of money in Amazon and Cost. The CEO and senior managements. How about warehouse workers who work so hard? Barely above minimum wage. Hmm does that sound like a pyramid ? Lll
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
What does this have to do with MLM. The salary of an Amazon manager is not dependent on how many other Amazon manager he or she recruits. A bizarre (yet common) point to make by desperate MLM reps. Also, even an entry position at Costco or Amazon earns an hourly wage and isn’t working for free trying to recruit more cashiers 😂
@Bea-yg9od
@Bea-yg9od Ай бұрын
They arrived in Brazil recently. I unfortunately had an alergic reaction to their evening cleansing foam, my face filled up with red pimples after the first use, I woke up absolutely terrified. I immediately contacted the seller, she made me record a video explaining how i used the product and then left me on read for two days. Meanwhile, I suspended the use of all skincare products (except for sunscreen) and only applied frozen aloe vera (yes, the literal plant). My face came back to normal very quickly. After she contacted me back, she said that their specialist had informed her that it was completely normal, and that i should keep using the product along with their sheet mask. I decided not to. Anyone who had a similar experience?
@thefreelanceworker3491
@thefreelanceworker3491 2 жыл бұрын
The compensation plan is indeed complicated, but there is no reason for you to study the compensation plan if you are not a consumer of the product. I mean, you should not buy Atomy products just because you want the compesation plan or you just want to earn from it. Use atomy because you like what you see on the labels. Share it only if you liked it. You don't have to buy your inventory if you are not going to sell. This company eliminated everything you hate about the usual MLM companies out there; membership fees, membership packages, monthly maintaining fees, false advertising, overprising and more. That is basically the reason why it is not popular among MLM hustlers. :)
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
They didn’t eliminate the pyramid scheme structure of it where the main way to make money is by recruiting other people.
@thefreelanceworker3491
@thefreelanceworker3491 2 жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit That is not correct. Members will earn by selling not by recruiting. The membership is free so even if I recruit 100 people I will not earn anything. 🙂
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
Members earn more by recruiting. That’s very clear in the comp plan and the comp plan video released by the company. The only way to make anything close to a livable wage with Atomy (and any mlm, actually) is to recruit a lot of people who will recruit more people. Otherwise, you are only making about 9% of your own sales and that’s it. How many $200 skincare sets would you need to sell to make anything close to a livable wage when huh only make 9% off each set and then have to pay self employment taxes off of that? I’ll let you do the math :)
@thefreelanceworker3491
@thefreelanceworker3491 2 жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit why don't you do the math yourself so you can understand better. Tell us how much money will you lose when you register for free. 🙂
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not talking about losing money when registering for free. You and I are talking about different things. Just because registration is free doesn’t mean the business model is sound. To make $39,960 you’d need to sell $444k of products (if you don’t want to recruit anyone). Can you do that in one year? Oh and then pay self employment taxes on that $39k. Most of the money in these businesses comes from recruiting others, not from sales, and that makes them a pyramid scheme. It has nothing at all to do with the membership fee. And if we really get into it, how would someone sell products they have never tried? So of course the consultants / members will be buying these overpriced items to try them and then attempt to sell them to others.
@iwonanamiel8528
@iwonanamiel8528 8 ай бұрын
I was invited to the Atomy conference by a friend. Most of the time I listened to a bunch of nonsense. There were too many and repetitive top-shelf stories to best motivate and convince new participants to take part in the ATOMY sales activity. Then I didn't like showing expensive cars, such a car is a shame. you can get more than this small salary, not to mention the tax deduction. The next strange announcer informs you that you don't have to pay anything to make money by advertising and you can use their official website, it's logical that you won't earn any more because you recommend their website and that's the salary 🤷 ‍♀️You can set up a website yourself, the cost of the website is about £200 per year. The products themselves, I don't know because I haven't used them. But I know from experience that before selling something, let's start with ourselves. Are you sure the product is for everyone?
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 8 ай бұрын
“A bunch of nonsense” describes most of the comments from reps on this video as well 🤭
@paulamcfall881
@paulamcfall881 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have anything nice to say about Anthony because all you're doing is putting it down and you're being hypocritical because you haven't tried the product and given it fair chance
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure who Anthony is. I don’t need to try a product to disagree with the business structure. Just like I don’t need to try illegal substances to know they are bad. The issue with Atomy is that the only way to make some real money is by recruiting others. Fair warning - I’m not going to get into drawn out discussions about this. You are welcome to read all the other comment threads if you want to know the rationale behind my statements. Have an awesome day.
@smileday9088
@smileday9088 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the products,dear?Are they really effective?
@bellecosia6950
@bellecosia6950 2 жыл бұрын
No annual fee, to remain active as a member, you need to purchase ONE product per year, even if it is just the zipperbag for $3. 215 $ for a 6 pce skincare is expensive if you don’t know what quality you are comparing it too, and you will not know the wuality until you experience it for yourself, some people have switched from ZO which is sold in derma clinics and facial spas for 4 times the price, so 215$ is actually a bargain, how can they sell it low? Because they don’t pay for advertising and other traditional marketing cost. Yes, you need to have a guest password which is FREE to see the prices, otherwise there is a price for non members on their website
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
$215 is absolutely not a bargain. It’s hyper inflated to support all the levels of Atomy reps making commissions from their recruits. But if that’s how you want to spend your money - more power to you. Edit: thanks for clarifying the requirements for dating active
@thefreelanceworker3491
@thefreelanceworker3491 2 жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit Atomy skin care products are manufactured by Kolmar korea. You can compare the prices of the products made by this company. Sponsors do not get anything from the purchases of their downlines, they only get points. Unless they do direct selling and earn from selling the product at SRP.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
You said yourself in another comment that once enough points accumulate, the sponsor gets paid. So yes, they do get something.
@bellecosia6950
@bellecosia6950 2 жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit Atomy shares the profit with the distributors, atomy only takes back 30% of profit back for operating cost, and gives back 70% back to distributors to provide education training and seminars for all who wants to do it as business and includes compensation for doing the marketing work for them, so people get paid just by using and sharing, we all pay the same price for products and don’t make anything by recruiting, unlike other MLM, when people by skincare products from the popular “S” store, company’s make all the profit and the marketing company gets the chunk of it, Atomy chooses to pay distributors to do the marketing, since they are the ones using the products and recommending to others. A true pyramid scheme makes money off the recruitment and obligates people to purchase expensive products every month, so EVERY recruit has to buy to ensure that everyone above gets paid, in Atomy, they rely on the high quality products at an affordable price to create regular consumers, and not forcing anyone to buy and be a financial burden, in fact they discourage people to do the business if they don’t love the products and to do it because of compensation aspect of it, people will buy daily necessity products for the rest of their life, regardless of economic status or circumstances, and why not have a share of profit from products you are using instead of all profit goes to walmart, costco or sephora. People shop and earn points nowadays, Atomy uses points too, to compensate you for recommending the products to others.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
In their own materials they say 44% is spent on distributor compensation. I suggest we stop this discussion as I do not think we will change each other’s minds. I would have liked to see an income disclosure but Atomy doesn’t release those. Shady shady
@5veast2west53
@5veast2west53 Жыл бұрын
Hello from UK..i am hooked with Atomy' s skin care products same quality of Estee Lauder I used to wear for years but half price of them. My skin is smoother and brighter thanks to Absolute skin care, brightening masks n evening care set, essence and ampoule! And hemohim is daebak!! My friend survived covid thanks to this Atomys health supplement
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
Well that’s an interesting health claim there at the end, I’m sure atomy would be thrilled with people making that claim (and so would the FTC)
@5veast2west53
@5veast2west53 Жыл бұрын
@kbeautyhobbit yea im happy I've found a better quality but cheaper price products . BTW I'm an end user nothing to do with the sales or its kind But their products speak for itself half price of branded skincare out there but even better quality . I used to wear Estee Lauder's Clarin's and Chanel's skin cares but Atomy's skincare products have saved me £££ every year ☺️☺️.
@grizzdesu9732
@grizzdesu9732 Жыл бұрын
bro thats insane does atomy distribute vaccines via nice skin products? im rubbing that shit all over my balls right now
@paulamcfall881
@paulamcfall881 2 жыл бұрын
You have to have a membership to get the pricing
@MJ-ee6fc
@MJ-ee6fc Жыл бұрын
But no fees at all!
@grantferrigan3837
@grantferrigan3837 Жыл бұрын
We just give you a guest passcode to the the prices.
@anamacdonna2990
@anamacdonna2990 Жыл бұрын
It is very unfortunate to see such an educated person (4 undergrad degrees and a master) making so many assumptions with incomplete information. I would think your audience and subscribers deserve better.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
I think everyone deserves better than an MLM :)
@adelabarnes110
@adelabarnes110 Жыл бұрын
That's what you think she didn't know what she talking about. Atomy is amazing products.
@PerfectasImperfectas
@PerfectasImperfectas Жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit You don't understand MLM and specially you don't understand ATOMY.
@paulamcfall881
@paulamcfall881 2 жыл бұрын
Atomy is a recreated network You have no idea what you're talking about because you're comparing us to another company and if it was a regular MLM I wouldn't be in it it's so incredible this company and the CEO only takes 5% company the rest of it goes to all of us they're so generous nothing like anything I've ever been in before and I haven't lost any money in it as I didn't other companies
@adelabarnes110
@adelabarnes110 Жыл бұрын
That's right I love the product. I use it everyday. And the time you pay when you buy the product. You can buy anytime you want and all up to you if you want to build a team or if you're just want to be a consumer.
@marinaislas855
@marinaislas855 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I appreciate the video you put out it does make a person think about the people above her in her line and I will admit they do push a lot but I do notice that they are older people they’re not doing this full-time this is more like a side job. I was given this product during Covid time in 2021 to 2022 and I still continue to take it the reason why with my mom and me take it is because I was in a coma and people that were buying the product of Atomy had told my mom to get it for me that it would help me get better so my mom did that she gave me the product and I woke up and each time she gave it to me my have gotten better she gave me the hemo product. It has done wonders for me and help me lose weight as well as with the food my mom would provide for me and kept me from dying in the hospital and it’s even helping close up my hole that I got from the trach, the doctors put on me it also removed, the fungus I had on my feet and all over my body. The products do work, but I do wish there was an easier way to get the products than having to go through this pyramid scheme. And I do tell people that it is a pyramid just like almost every other thing out there in the world. But I know things work, so I let them know you know what I know. I’m not being a very good sales person but if you can find it cheaper elsewhere, get it elsewhere just get it cause it helps. I’m the type to help people not to make some thing from helping them. Also, I want to include that the toothpaste also works my teeth are white they were never white lol. But I do appreciate the video because it gives more an intense look at what some people might be happening in their lines when they’re not explained correctly by the higher-ups or when the higher-ups are a little too selfish and I just looking for money I know if any of them in my line read this they’ll probably call my mom or me and demand to know what’s going on but like I said I’m not trying to bash them, I’m not trying to bash the person on the video because like she said she’s just getting her point of view on what she experienced.
@marinaislas855
@marinaislas855 Жыл бұрын
Also, if my comment doesn’t make sense, it’s because I’m using the microphone and I’m not able to see very well so I can’t proofread my comment😊
@internetprincess8998
@internetprincess8998 Жыл бұрын
may I know which country are you from?
@PatrickAung93
@PatrickAung93 Жыл бұрын
i understand you are explaining from your own definition of pyramid, which in your case you reference everything as pyramid because of the shape of the organizational structure. Not exactly wrong. But it would be much better to reference the FTC and laws and regulations definition of pyramid scheme, ponzi scheme, and legitimate businesses in order to have a more solid footing. Ponzi: it is a fraud investment that, when you put in money initially, you will yield monthly profit regardless of whether you bring in members or not. Pyramid: this is a money game where by you get paid for people coming into your investment business. There is no products involved Network marketing: this is the industry that pays you ONLY if the customers or business owners purchase products from you. Literally the CEO of network marketing companies had to spend huge capital to set up warehouse, productions of items, staff hiring cost, land ownership, and distribution channel, The ceo of network marketing companies did all that, just to get ridiculed by antimlmers saying that "The product is just a front to bypass legal loophole. you get paid for recruiting." this is nonsense. Also, I respect you for defending kbeautyhobbit. However, there are a lot of misinformation and i'll only point out one of them (There are plenty, btw...), there is no monthly maintainance. there is yearly maintainance, which is SGD 5 dollar per year, and it is just buying 1 scrub, or 1 sponge or 1 handsoap. but in the video, she tell audience that there is 20 dollar monthly maintainance. There is no such thing as monthly maintainance in the history of Atomy. there is Not even past and old compensation plan or business plan where you are required to purchase 20 dollars per month. So i really wonder... from which source did she derived her experience, her findings and resources from? I will not accept any answer saying "got it from company source" because that is clearly cap.
@kyongjimerson5872
@kyongjimerson5872 2 жыл бұрын
I think you don't even know the products and compensation plans at all. I am new to Atomy but nothing like what you said. Please let me know if you really want to know and make money, I will help you!!
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
My information about compensation plans is from Atomy’s own website and KZbin channel. But you are new and full of hope. I’d be curious to see just how much profit you make 1/2/5 years from now. Good luck!
@smileday9088
@smileday9088 2 жыл бұрын
I am going to join Atomy thanks to my illness,but I don't know anyone around me who works for the company.Could you help me,dear?
@smileday9088
@smileday9088 2 жыл бұрын
@@tristancarax4572 Thank you a lot, dear
@rizkyramadhani940
@rizkyramadhani940 3 ай бұрын
Hello everyone, My mother has been familiar with Atomy for a week now and has started inviting other family members to join T_T ,,,,,,,,,, plis tell me and convince me that atomy is a scam, i'm really not sure how atomy works. very doubtful. Pliss plis tell me so I can convince my mom😭😭😭
@rizkyramadhani940
@rizkyramadhani940 3 ай бұрын
I hope someone will help me 🙏🙏
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 3 ай бұрын
I go over all of my personal issues with Atomy in the video. Not sure what else I could add to that
@kino_mara
@kino_mara Ай бұрын
​@@rizkyramadhani940 I made a comment myself about my personal experience with this MLM. I know another person who does atomy for a living and they work 24/7 always on call and they keep calculating PV every day on their personal atomy given planner.
@grantferrigan3837
@grantferrigan3837 Жыл бұрын
Way off. 1 product a year keeps you active. It's literally a free business. Comp plan is very simple actually. 300,000 on each side of your binary earns you a commission.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
Free business bc over 99% of people in it work for free :)
@pkkim9384
@pkkim9384 Жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit wrong majority of people are in it just to shop not to earn money
@thefreelanceworker3491
@thefreelanceworker3491 Жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit can you name 1 person who complained? None coz you're just making up stories based on statistics from other companies.
@grantferrigan3837
@grantferrigan3837 Жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit I've made money and none of my people have lost money either. Is this bad? No autoship for 2.5 years for me. I am against autoship for sure. Interesting takes however.
@grizzdesu9732
@grizzdesu9732 Жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit fucking gottem hahahahah
@thefreelanceworker3491
@thefreelanceworker3491 2 жыл бұрын
3:47 when a company reminds their members not to do bad things, that makes them a bad company? And a company that do not make reminders like that is better? Wow. I am amazed by that logic.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
No, it just means that a surprisingly high number of their members were doing that so that it warranted the warning (just my speculation) For the 100th time, I suggest we stop these discussions. You may have tons of time on your hands to keep going over the same circular points, but I don’t. I summarized it very neatly already, but here it is again: Atomy is not a good way to make money (and they advertise themselves as a business opportunity, not simply a way to purchase skincare and other products). If Atomy is a great way to make money (which would make them different from all other MLMs), they can prove it easily by releasing an income disclosure. The most lucrative way to make money in Atomy is by building a team, not by making sales. These are the reasons I personally do not recommend them. I can’t put it any more clear than that, and if that still doesn’t make sense, perhaps topics that are easier to comprehend would be a better use of your time. Have a great weekend.
@thefreelanceworker3491
@thefreelanceworker3491 2 жыл бұрын
Let's talk about your 4 reasons why you made this video so you can evaluate yourself. 1. You want people to be critical about the products they are buying? But where is your product review? Why not make a comparison between atomy and a better product. certainly that will be more helpful thn just guessing. 2. You don't want people to support a predatory industry? Can you describe an incident where someone became a victim of Atomy? Just one. 3. Why limit yourself to just 1 brand when there are thousands. You don't want them to stick to one brand just because you want them to try the thousand other brands? And that is suppose to help people save money? 🤔 4. Most MLM advertise themselves as a small business owner. Can you name one Atomy member that does that?
@thefreelanceworker3491
@thefreelanceworker3491 2 жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit surprisingly high number of members are doing false claims? Where is the data that supports your speculations? So are you saying that If an MLM company do not make announcements like that, it means that no members are doing it? How ridiculous. Even if it's true, the company is not liable to the actions of its members. You said it yourself that they are individual contractors. Just like vlogger who violates rules. YT can only remind them or ban them but they cannot control them. When you see a foul video, you do not blame YT. You blame the uploader.
@thefreelanceworker3491
@thefreelanceworker3491 2 жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit you keep on repeating nonsense. Atomy is not a good way to make money because of... what? You have to complete your sentence. But you can't cause you don't know why exactly. Because you do not have the DETAILS. You keep on shooting blank Bullets.
@thefreelanceworker3491
@thefreelanceworker3491 2 жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit KZbin does not disclose revenue. Does it mean that KZbin is not a great way to make money?
@mzkii1002
@mzkii1002 Жыл бұрын
So.. My friends recruited me and I was researching about this company.. My Friend's Dad is like part of a higher level rank in Atomy I think he's like a Royal Master. I was partially convinced and 50% was also suspicious about it because it's sound too very pricey in my country.. And I can't believe my friend's Dad said it's cheap! 95 dollars is like 5,249 pesos for that.. Even with the toothbrush and toothpaste.. 500 pesos is too much for that too.. My mom also got into alot of networking businesses in the past and it never worked clearly but their products are really nice.. Even though it's too pricey for my taste.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
Typically MLM products are priced higher compared to non MLM ones since a lot of consultants in the chain make a cut.
@yessir4385
@yessir4385 6 ай бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbitin all fairness I would say that a product like hemohim and its benefits is worth the price even if it seems like a lot. You won’t find anything as potent like that in Walmart. Prices are cheaper in stores for health supplements but I feel the quality and impact is also lower in those stores. Just my opinion.
@pkkim9384
@pkkim9384 Жыл бұрын
It seems like you did some research, although your masters degree background doesn’t mean much, but I would think it’s better than an average person. I am one of the speakers for this company and would love to go live show with you and share how much you are wrong about Atomy. Oh, I have a masters degree too and know how to research well too :) Even if you don’t accept my invite , let me leave you with one thing. I challenge you to find out what is an average of overhead of product cost as a percentage by other Korean beauty products VS Atomy. Yeah, there are alot or cheaper options but I bet I can find cheaper skincare at Walmart than your shipping sources
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
The easiest way to show how different and awesome Atomy is would be to publish an income disclosure, right? When will one become available?
@AlaskasYummyToes
@AlaskasYummyToes Жыл бұрын
Agreed PK Kim.
@PerfectasImperfectas
@PerfectasImperfectas Жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit I wonder why you are so worried about the income disclosure, ask real people why they do ATOMY. I wonder if you or people who are so worried about the income disclosure, ask those things in a job interview. As if your jobs will tell you the truth about your benefits, retirement plan risks and that they will kick you out when they don't need you anymore. But people beg for a job, willing to do anything, and when it comes to a company that gives you everything to become successful, suddenly you guys become so picky.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
With a regular job you get a guaranteed pay / job offer, and it doesn’t depend on your ability to recruit more employees to do the same job you do. Really not comparing apples to apples here
@paulamcfall881
@paulamcfall881 2 жыл бұрын
And on top of this every single product in atomy has been patented from their technology to their purification technique there's nothing that compares to it on the market point that's at the lowest price
@crowsandravens8998
@crowsandravens8998 Жыл бұрын
*Exactly. I'm amazed at the quality and cheap and FREE shipping costs. No one gets hurt here. Period.*
@paulamcfall881
@paulamcfall881 2 жыл бұрын
One of the products in this company is made by NASA and this product saved my life and during covid it saved so many lives
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
This sounds suspiciously like the claims the company wouldn’t want you making…
@wendyhardwick3561
@wendyhardwick3561 2 жыл бұрын
Paula, and Tristan, those are health claims, and both you and the company can be fined by the Federal Trade Commission if reported.
@kerry8461
@kerry8461 Жыл бұрын
😮
@thefreelanceworker3491
@thefreelanceworker3491 Жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit ypu have time to make a video but you don't have time to do a proper research? If you have a degree then you should know how to research about the manufacturer of the products instead of making generic comments.
@PerfectasImperfectas
@PerfectasImperfectas Жыл бұрын
@@wendyhardwick3561 This information is public. Do your research. :HemoHIM was the name of a government research project conducted by a team of doctoral scientists at the Korea Atomic Energy Research Institute (KAERI). The South Korean government proposed the project to the team to create a new substance that will radically boost the human immune system."
@NOTLeavingLV
@NOTLeavingLV Жыл бұрын
Realtors are also independent contractors working under a giant company. This video seems to misrepresent this as some sort of predatory company. You admit they pay 44% of profits through revenue sharing. That means people are getting paid if they want to work it as a business. What’s the issue then?
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
Realtors don’t make money recruiting other realtors. Not a fair comparison. The issue? The stats on the % of MLM reps who actually make money :)
@PatrickAung93
@PatrickAung93 11 ай бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit can you show me a real concrete and undeniable proof of any legitimate MLM reps who solely earns from recruiting other people with ZERO product movement? And i'll show you a REAL pyramid scheme. (stating company name is not proof, let alone concrete proof. no legitimate MLM/network marketing companies reward reps on purely recruiting people with ZERO product movement)
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 11 ай бұрын
@PatrickAung93 the issue with MLMs isn’t ZERO product movement, but the fact that the way to make any real money is by recruiting, not selling products. This is shown in Atomy’s own KZbin video explaining the pay structure, which I linked. But you already know that. The amount of time you devote to this comment section makes me wonder why sales and recruitment aren’t keeping you more busy. I guess business must be slow. If my claims were so outrageous, people wouldn’t feel the need to foam at the mouth defending that their company “isn’t a scam” :) but the problems with MLMs are more and more known to the public now, making reps scramble in the comments of videos like mine to try and save face. Take care.
@PatrickAung93
@PatrickAung93 11 ай бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit "the way to make any real money is by recruiting, not selling products. This is shown in Atomy’s own KZbin video explaining the pay structure, which I linked: So we can only get PV points from product purchase made by customers.... But you said we don't earn from product purchase. you said we made money from head count? Very contradicting. Come on, link me the REAL atomy video where they said they will pay based on HEADCOUNT and not PV points. You can't. cos you already know deep down, we can NEVER earn from head count. We can only earn from product movement. "The amount of time you devote to this comment section makes me wonder why sales and recruitment aren’t keeping you more busy" The company works FOR me. They handle email marketing, for me. They handle logistic, for me they handle delivery, for me they handle Audit, For me. your guess is as good as kindergarden. which explain all these made up information in the video. also, please provide photo proof of atomy members foaming at the mouth in your next video update. Would love to know and see it for myself. All i see are ad hom attacks now The problem with antimlm is that they think they can get away with misinformation. now that the lies and false news spread by antimlmers are consistantly being debunked more and more. I also like the way you ignore my comment about me debunking the living day light out of the 99.7% fake statistics.
@elizviy
@elizviy Жыл бұрын
My mother in law joined this …part of her sales pitch gave me ASMR and an equal part couldn’t wait to jump online and see if it was an MLM or not
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
Definitely an MLM 🤭
@satishsingh6777
@satishsingh6777 Жыл бұрын
nice video and lots of information but i want know about the QNET another MLM company ..... it will be another eye opener for you ....
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
Never heard of it. Google tells me it was founded in Philippines and it looks like they sell everything from “wellness” to watches. Hopefully one of the specifically anti MLM channels will cover them eventually. Good tip!
@satishsingh6777
@satishsingh6777 Жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit I SUGGESTED U AFTER WATCHING UR HONEST REVIEW ABOUT ATOMY IN THE SAME WAY I M REQUESTING YOU TO PRESENT SOMETHING ABOUT QNET.... HOPE U WILL LOKK INTO IT ... THANK YOU..
@paulamcfall
@paulamcfall 11 ай бұрын
You are so so wrong I have been buying Atomy for 6 years and I do not run it as a business They never once forced me to buy
@paulamcfall881
@paulamcfall881 2 жыл бұрын
I do get paid everyday
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
How is that a selling point? It’s not the frequency of payment, it’s the amount that matters.
@kerry8461
@kerry8461 Жыл бұрын
I get paid for working every day whether I recruit someone or not. Just get paid for working the hours I work. It’s awesome. Sadly I am not a boss babe. I’m a regular employee. With paid vacation and sick days.
@nikechic619
@nikechic619 3 ай бұрын
Ask any MLM business person to show you their tax returns. Then divide that by how many hours you work selling the products.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 3 ай бұрын
That would work for that one person, assuming they kept track of hours. I want to see an income disclosure for the entire company’s footprint as that gives a more accurate idea of what a mean and median income are for the sales reps. That’s a better tool for decision making than one individual tax filing.
@march4victory
@march4victory 2 жыл бұрын
I would rather follow atomy than u
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha feel free. Also it’s spelled “shut” not “shout” ;)
@MrRespectandpeace
@MrRespectandpeace 8 ай бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit the clown edited 😂
@someperson9959
@someperson9959 Жыл бұрын
What I’m the hell are these comments I don’t even know what side of yt I’m on anymore lmao but if you ever actually need skincare advice isn’t best to see a dermatologist atomy just seems like your typical skincare besides the mlm and everyone’s skin is different to everyone
@someperson9959
@someperson9959 Жыл бұрын
Like even cerave an incredibly big skincare brand doesn’t get this much defense or love
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
For sure, a licensed professional is always best!!
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
Because cerave has regular employees with paychecks who don’t make money recruiting new cerave employees
@missjet9060
@missjet9060 Жыл бұрын
So people who work for cerave get their salary, ur ok with that, why are u not ok with people from atomy trying to make money out of it? What and who are you fighting for? Because the people who joined atomy and wants to make money from it clearly dont need you to advocate for them. And based on the comments on here, there's only 2 categories of people, the ones who likes to buy and the ones who like to sell and build a team who will sell, none of them are complaining, but you, ur not even a member or a consumer or anything but you're up in arms and spreading wrong information to boot 😂. Like why? These people love the product, some of them wants to earn money but ur just raining on their parade, potentially sabotaging their source of income with your false statements, i mean its wpuld have been ok if you were info is accurate but its not even correct and theyve been trying to tell u but u wont listen, why? 😂 because u'd rather they work as an employee? I dont get what you're cause is.
@missjet9060
@missjet9060 Жыл бұрын
Definitely go to a dermatologist not some youtuber who labels their assumptions and opinions as "truth", those ones have no credibility whatsoever.
@ermasoriano7663
@ermasoriano7663 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your review. You mentioned about supporting the micro companies . Atomy. started from a very humble beginning. The founder and chairman was very sick and bankrupt. It only started from 2 kinds of products. One was HemoHim which made him better from Liver Cirrhosis in ICU and skin care 6. His teacher from high school helped him to get a loan so that they can start the business. The marketing is righteous and transparent..The goal is to be number one company in the world within ten years. Your ID number can be passed on three generations. Out of 500 companies Atomy gives 2% of there revenue to Charity. Please continue to do your research about Atomy"s Absolute Products Absolute Price. When you buy and use Atomy products, you are getting more than what your hard earn monies worth. Also you are saving at the same time you are investing because it's an investment. Atomy is a business with a Mission to make consumer's successful beyond Satisfaction.They are building schools and hospitals and mobile clinics. Please try to use the toothbrush and toothpaste. It will minimize you Dental visit again. Toothbrush sell every seconds. Thank you.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
They are no longer a small company and I do not support their business structure.
@tetetalk
@tetetalk Жыл бұрын
"The founder and chairman was very sick and bankrupt" Many MLM companies tell similar stories about their founders.
@MelTheMuppetslayer
@MelTheMuppetslayer 2 жыл бұрын
Wild comments section here. 👀
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy 😂
@MelTheMuppetslayer
@MelTheMuppetslayer 2 жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit it’s a ride alright!! 😂😂 the clap backs got me saying daaaammmmnnn 😂
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
My self restraint isn’t always the best 😂
@MelTheMuppetslayer
@MelTheMuppetslayer 2 жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit you had a lot of grace and tact, even when you were on point!! They were trying to serve their version of truth but were doing these wild dances in circles all over the place!
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite is the Dr who makes $50k a month but has time to leave 12+ comments in a row 😅
@privateshoppingmall
@privateshoppingmall 6 ай бұрын
I love their products. There are prices on there and I also purchased coffee. So delicious at amazing prices! I’ve never been pushed either. I’ll keep buying. Bashing Atomy but talks about her MLM at the end. LOL
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 6 ай бұрын
I don’t have an MLM and am not in one, so not sure what you are referring to 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️
@sammyhale6463
@sammyhale6463 5 ай бұрын
I don't know this person. I started with Atomy three weeks ago. I don't have to sell anything to anyone. I just use the products I want, and I buy toothpaste and shampoo anyway, and the Atomy products are reasonably priced and very high quality. I don't think she knows anything about Atomy from what she said. I just thinks she is a total skeptic about ANY MLM. My opinion
@pliem
@pliem 8 ай бұрын
Even if you have a degree, does not mean you understand Atomy's marketing plan. Thank you for your video, because of it I studied Atomy's marketing plan and found that it is the best in MLM. I am now successful in Atomy. In Atomy there is NO REGISTRATION FEES, NO PACKAGE TO BUY, NO AUTO SHIP, NE SELLING, NO MAINTENANCE FEES, PERSONAL PV WILL NOT GET RESET FOR 3 GENERATIONS, GROUP PV WILL NOT BE RESET UNTIL YOU QUALIFY FOR YOUR COMMISSION, AND PASSIVE INCOME UP TO 3 GENERATIONS. Anyone who reads this and has questions please message me.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 8 ай бұрын
And also NO INCOME 😂😂😂 great marketing plan indeed. Good luck.
@rizkyramadhani940
@rizkyramadhani940 3 ай бұрын
haha funny 😂😂
@zippyzie
@zippyzie Жыл бұрын
I thought that you focus on beauty products and give reviews. You oughta and should've delved into Atomy products because they are awesome. You get more for the price you paid and the results are very comparable to other high end skincare. The $215 dollar skincare that you showed can last for about a year or more depending on use. I'm really surprised at how much time and effort you've put into this video dissecting Atomy's marketing plan, when this is not really your forte. I use Atomy products because I love them and I get a check back after my group purchases are totaled every month. You obviously do not understand the concept of it and have not done a complete research. There is more to Atomy than what you see on the website.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
The issue with atomy isn’t the products, it’s the fact that it positions itself as a “business opportunity” yet the overwhelming majority likely don’t make money. My actual forte are finance, data analysis, and risk management ;) but I’ve gone over all my issues with atomy in the video and in the comments and don’t feel like engaging in any more circular arguments about it.
@PatrickAung93
@PatrickAung93 Жыл бұрын
​@@kbeautyhobbitthe video is a load of misinformation. Everything you says and do contradicts.😊
@zeallo509
@zeallo509 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think that Atomy is multi-level MLM. It is binary. We don’t do business like an Octopus. We only need to do 2 lines. Which makes Atomy very genuine to help out all the downline and upline members. Atomy has no monthly commitment. You only need to purchase 1 product within a YEAR in USA, some other countries might be 6 months to stay active. Any product. No monthly purchases unless you like to buy it whenever you want to use it. The marketing plan is easy to understand. It’s just different than the others. Which people found it simple is hard. People not gonna fully understand until they go up the mastership. To move up the mastership, of course you have to get certain amount of point value(PV) within certain amount of time in a month, and how you gonna get rid of the products if you don’t promote or try to consume it? People push to sell, the problem is them, not the company. The company truly wants genuine consumers. It’s about sharing to others and teach them to buy, use and share and repeat. It’s about passing down the knowledge and duplicate the success system while using great products you believe in. People who join any company, job, career are not CEO. They don’t know how to be a CEO, so can’t expect people to NOT mess up the company reputation. But, overall, the system is tooooooo genuine, which has its pros and cons. Red flag? To not see the price? It’s a private company. What’s wrong with able to see the price when you become a member for FREE? That’s what networking website like. Protect their information so people won’t abuse it. It’s a security to protect the company’s info so people don’t steal info and take advantage of the company. Asking people who are not Atomy members is like asking a person if the apple taste good when that person never had apple in their entire life. Asking the wrong people leads you to believe only the negativity. You truly don’t know what Atomy is all about unless you achieved atomy mastership. People exaggerate the products is their selling techniques which are not Atomy’s way. But selling is selling. But what is not selling is that if you don’t make a profit from it, it is not selling. I sell Atomy products in person, never online, and give them membership price. I got $0, maybe some pennies for change. But I am only looking for loyal consumers, people who likes the products and I give them resources along the way depend on what they want to do with Atomy. Other people chase money, looking at their heart, you know they abuse Atomy just like how they abused other network marketing in the past. The reason why they don’t succeed because they do the same every business they touch. ... I can't write anymore. Believe what you guys want to believe...The thing is, you won't know until you are all in. If you are not connected to the system, don't say Atomy is not good. The problem is yourself.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
It’s absolutely multi level, because people make money off of several levels down each leg
@zeallo509
@zeallo509 Жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit you get paid whenever you get certain amount of points on 2 legs and became an agent yourself. It is free to join so you don't make money recruiting. people up there don't get discounts. Prices stays the same for all members. How is it MLM? I can get paid with only 1 person on my right and 1 on my left... And isn't that what network marketing is supposed to be like? Make money, sharing companies benefits and using great products? Or not make money, just use it? Atomy is binary, I can't say that's MLM, but I can say that's network marketing company. If people do it like an octopus, then, it might as well looks like a MLM.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
@zeallo509 you do make money recruiting and I showed how / why in the video. If it weren’t an MLM, you wouldn’t have any “legs” at all. Doesn’t matter if it’s two legs or an octopus. Not really interested in arguing further, believe whatever you’d like.
@MaterialesOrnamentacion-nz6rc
@MaterialesOrnamentacion-nz6rc Жыл бұрын
Hola. Leí palabra por palabra y al final me pareció que lo que UD busca es hacerle propaganda a esa pequeñas empresas que UD dice. O a lo mejor son suyas,de todas maneras le respeto su forma de ser. La felicito por ser tan preparada siendo tan joven y es UD muy bonita. Un abrazote ❤🎉
@yusenbajalla8768
@yusenbajalla8768 4 ай бұрын
Have you tried their products already?
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 4 ай бұрын
No and don’t plan on it. Don’t need to try illegal substances either to know they aren’t good for me :) the main issue I have is with the “business structure” and lack of transparency. MLMs aren’t about the product
@Mikeghosn
@Mikeghosn 5 ай бұрын
I have no degrees and I understand the compensation plan
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 5 ай бұрын
You are also in it (sounds like) and have access to materials not available to the general public. They make this stuff complicated on purpose, highlighting only the potential benefits and not giving full info. And I’m assuming still no published income disclosure two years later :)
@Mikeghosn
@Mikeghosn 5 ай бұрын
I understand your point about income disclosures. Perhaps that is a red flag. Look I’m not particular fond of the company but am attracted to the hemoHIM product. No false claims here but I’m feeling amazing since I started using it using it a couple months ago. HemoHIM was available before ATOMY (the distributor ever came along). Now because of Atomy I discovered HemoHIM and wouldn’t have otherwise. The compensation plan is a bonus when you have products like hemoHIM. I’ve only made an initial $75 so far (I think of it as cashback) but have also been able to share this product with some family and close friends. In time as they share they will made their for $75 check, and my check size will increase and become residual. That’s the theory anyway. Yes the company may have suspicious activity and even appear like an economic cult if you attend their opportunity meetings. I’ve been to two of them. That said, I put all that aside and saw an opportunity and a product that might just change my life. It’s low risk and high reward for me and I feel great on the hemoHIM.
@kiddustrymagazine562
@kiddustrymagazine562 Жыл бұрын
Why make a video about a company you never joined? Im a Atomy member I love the products the toothpaste is amazing. No one was pushy with me to join. You don't have to pay a monthly fee.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
By that logic the only people making true crime content should be the ones involved in the crime :)
@atomygamaimperiallapaz7728
@atomygamaimperiallapaz7728 Жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit Why did you erased my messages??? Because you can’t confront real arguments.
@PatrickAung93
@PatrickAung93 Жыл бұрын
​@KBeautyHobbit false equivalence fallacy.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the engagement, Patrick ❤️ bringing more and more people to this video 👌
@PatrickAung93
@PatrickAung93 Жыл бұрын
@KBeautyHobbit again, majority of people commenting will speak for itself whether your video is educational or just plain out troll. Kinda weird you don't mind making yt money off making troll videos and claim to be highly educated but hey. Its 2023 🤷‍♂️
@paulamcfall881
@paulamcfall881 2 жыл бұрын
I am making $50,000 a month with them now and I will for the rest of my life it doesn't ever end
@vitaliiatro
@vitaliiatro 2 жыл бұрын
No way, what is your rank? Could you share you social media page?
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
It ends as soon as you stop recruiting people. Or are you personally selling $150k in product per month? 😂🤦‍♀️
@Atomysway
@Atomysway Жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit YOU REALLY DID NOT KNOW WAHT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. ATOMY IS A PANDEMIC PROOF SYSTEM. It has been proven this last Pandemic. No recruting yet People still buy daliy necessities like shampoo, toothpaste, detergents etc. Most SPECIALLY Vitamins & FOOD Supplements. While my other businesses stops. Atomy is booming!!!
@kerry8461
@kerry8461 Жыл бұрын
I COMPLETELY believe that 😂
@thefreelanceworker3491
@thefreelanceworker3491 Жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit you have no idea what you're talking about. You just want engagement in your videos. Pathetic
@grantferrigan3837
@grantferrigan3837 3 ай бұрын
She seems so sad.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 3 ай бұрын
Sad for all the people duped by the MLM industry and not reading income disclosures before signing up. Heartbreaking.
@zippyzie
@zippyzie Жыл бұрын
You shouldn't have mentioned your 4 years of undergrad and Master's and how you are used to reading legal documents. And yet does not understand the marketing plan. That's because you do not know enough of your topic and did not do thorough research. Atomy can be a legit business opportunity for people who wants to run a business because it allows you to sell products like having your own store. I also have a Master's degree and am a Financial Analyst for 10+ years now. It does not really take a genius to figure out data if you really know what you're doing. I'd say just stick to your cosmetic reviews.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
The marketing plan clearly shows that the only way to make real money here is to recruit other people. I’ve said this a million times - the best proof of what a great opportunity atomy is would be an income disclosure. It’s like investing in penny stocks hoping for high returns and telling people to do the same 😂👌 best of luck with all of that.
@PatrickAung93
@PatrickAung93 Жыл бұрын
​@@kbeautyhobbitthe problem is I tried recruiting a lot of people for alot of different companies. It never made me money. The money is not in recruiting. It is in product purchase. Once I understand this and start focusing on product sales I start seeing money So the saying the money is in recruiting... is false. Stop lying to your audience
@lamb2004
@lamb2004 2 жыл бұрын
my friend does this and tried so hard to recruit me just so they can gain the pv. at the time, being gullible, i reluctantly agreed because she never shuts up about it whenever we hang out which is exhausting. even having an account for atomy, i never bothered buying anything because i learned that our accounts are automatically terminated after a year without being active and that was my plan so i can get out of it. my friend got frustrated when i didn't buy anything on it and has been shady towards me since my account was permanently terminated. seeing how much they rely on their downline and forcing them to buy the products for the sake of earning pv and commission is already a red flag for me.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so sad when MLMs not only affect people’s finances but also their relationships
@Atomysway
@Atomysway Жыл бұрын
You do not know Atomy Absolute Quality products that is why. Your friend probably did not explain to you why we need to change brand? Commercial brands is normally bombarded with toxic chemicals... Atomy idea is to avoid those harmful chemicals that can contribute to Cancer, diabetes, hypertensions, pneumonia etc...Money is secondary in Atomy. Because we normally do not earn from selling or recruting... but by building a loyal consumers like what COLGATE, PALMOLIVE, NESCAFE etc. are normally doing. Just to let you know i am formerly homeless. But because of Atomy i am now able to help other people.
@kerry8461
@kerry8461 Жыл бұрын
This is a pattern I’ve seen over and over. I feel bad for the reps who reluctantly reach out to everyone they know and end up pushing people away who don’t want to be sold to.
@pkkim9384
@pkkim9384 Жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit you did not thoroughly read the comment, the writer said no purchases were required and just left it for a year to have it automatically terminated. So where is that $20 a month that you mentioned in the video? But agreed, some people push it too hard and take things personal when their friend doesn’t help them. But it’s not just MLMs but rather what each person is enthusiastic about. For example, my friend would not shut up about saving the environment, how we need to work together to save the earth. I am still his friend
@thefreelanceworker3491
@thefreelanceworker3491 Жыл бұрын
It's unfair to judge a company based only on one person. Specially when you have not tried a single product. Forcing someone to join is not encouraged by the company so the actions of one person is not enough to make conclusions against the company. The fact that you were able to register for free even without buying a product is already a proof that this is far from the shady mlm we all know. It's fine if you're not interested. It's really not for everybody.
@JeReveshop
@JeReveshop 2 ай бұрын
I have a question guys- is atomy a Korean company or actually Chinese ? I’m suspicious
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 ай бұрын
Their website says it’s Korean
@rowenajove8191
@rowenajove8191 5 ай бұрын
Atomy is the best Company WE are serving in HUMILITY When we serve with a heart of humility, we not only bless others, but we also bring glory to God.
@ChelseaChan96
@ChelseaChan96 Жыл бұрын
I am Atomy lovers 😍
@laquitaholmes3569
@laquitaholmes3569 Жыл бұрын
I recently joined Atomi & I am grateful for the information you have shared.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching
@betisalvarado7092
@betisalvarado7092 Жыл бұрын
I bet this lady reather make costco and sams rich thant make her self rich some people are very closed minded that they even think they know everything
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
Based on income disclosures from every MLM I’ve seen, only a tiiiiiiiiiny % of people on them make anything close to a livable wage. Costco pays their employees for every minute they work. So yes, I’d rather support a business like that.
@PatrickAung93
@PatrickAung93 Жыл бұрын
​@@kbeautyhobbitthe success rates always includes inside members who are purely customers and have no intent to build business
@paulamcfall881
@paulamcfall881 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be with them if they were making false claims I cannot in the position that I'm in as a doctor I cannot recommend something that's not going to work to my clients
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
I won’t even get into the problematic doctor patient dynamic where a doctor sells them items for personal gain… wow just wow
@smileday9088
@smileday9088 2 жыл бұрын
Are the products really effective?I am struggling with Arthritis for a year,and no medication is curing my ilness.I am getting disappointed 😢😢Will I recover or not😒.Can you help me doctor?Does Atomy supplements help me to get rid of my illness?Thank you beforehand for your attention 🙏
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin automatically deletes any comments with login info and even IG info. Had this issue on a giveaway.
@PerfectasImperfectas
@PerfectasImperfectas Жыл бұрын
@@smileday9088 The products are really the best. Do your own research on youtube and internet.
@vitaliiatro
@vitaliiatro 2 жыл бұрын
WRONG REVIEW!!! DO NOT HAVE TO BUY $20/month to activate acc Wrong math with compensation plan!!!
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
The $20 thing has been discussed at length in the comments already. How is the compensation math wrong? It’s based on the information from Atomy’s own presentation
@vitaliiatro
@vitaliiatro 2 жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit learn more closer compensation plan for all structure, and you will find the truth. as for me, I don't spend my time for those who even do not research correct information. Just stop share the WRONG INFORMATION
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha oh boy. No friend, the burden of proof is on you here. I used the materials released by atomy to do my math. If your time is so precious feel free to stop commenting 😅 maybe invest in a grammar course instead…
@PatrickAung93
@PatrickAung93 Жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit hes not wrong at all. you only have to buy 5 dollars a year to purchase a sponge to be active. i do not know which lalaland numbers you pulled to calculate and got your final answer of 20 dollars a month. it may have been discussed at length but you are going absolutely crazy length to protect your lies.
@PatrickAung93
@PatrickAung93 Жыл бұрын
don't bother. she goes unbelievable length to provide misinformation and all the other antimlm fans are eating it up
@JdjdbNdjdb
@JdjdbNdjdb 11 ай бұрын
this video didnt even go into the levels of "masters" the levels are really called "masters" and theres different kinds of "masters" very scary...
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 11 ай бұрын
The company isn’t the most forthcoming with info
@PatrickAung93
@PatrickAung93 10 ай бұрын
sounds like you are projecting. if you would like to debate with me and really understand the WHOLE TRUTH, instead of being in a self induced echo chamber, feel free to reply back to me. I understand about the huge lies and misconception behind 99.7% failure rate lobbying recruiting mandate recruite 15 cycles and you recruit the entire population And other nonsense and illogical statements. I can debate and debunk them all. i await your response
@paulamcfall881
@paulamcfall881 2 жыл бұрын
You are really leading people in a wrong direction with this company I'm so sorry but this is really off I can say it because I've tried the mango I've tasted the mango I know what it taste like I know what I'm talking about you're in a speculation belief not quite sure about the information you're putting out because you don't know what you're talking about and it's so obvious unbelievable
@grizzdesu9732
@grizzdesu9732 Жыл бұрын
mann is this some shit HAHAHAHA thank you very much for your time it was very informative
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
The comments are something else on this video 😅
@SiongBoonLim
@SiongBoonLim 5 ай бұрын
Any business has to make profits to sustain. We are paying for the business factory production, sales staff, logistic team, distributors and administration team. MLM is simply another business which distributes/optimising its revenue towards the salespeople and eliminates the cost middle man cost. Important is the product quality and cost, compared to the competition from the market. If it is of better quality and lower cost, it is a value for money product. Be it a MLM or not a MLM business. MLM is simply the method of distributing the product to the mass. It cost money to distribute any products.
@sharonlmathis4287
@sharonlmathis4287 Жыл бұрын
Short and Sweet you really do not know what you are talking fully even though you claim to be Highly Educated do you homework young lady!!
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
Yes please show me the atomy income disclosure proving me wrong - show how much the average person in the company earns and how much of that is from product sales vs recruiting. When there’s more money to be made from recruiting than from actual sales, it’s a classic example of a pyramid… Not sure what my age has to do with any of this.
@wiramaz
@wiramaz Жыл бұрын
Atomy is the Correction for all MLM before... This your personal view, I recommend you to go to Atomy HQ nearby get the explanation from Atomy personal not only from you reading and perception... Overall you not understanding Atomy...pls go to Atomy HQ near by..to many incorrect information by you...
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
I did go to Atomy source material. And I linked that.
@PatrickAung93
@PatrickAung93 Жыл бұрын
​@@kbeautyhobbitdo you mean the links from "the guardian" and the "bestpreneur"? You do know that those are blog post and not official from Atomy right? Sure you can say they are not positive biased. But since they are blog posts I can say they can be negative biased. Am I wrong?
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
No, I mean Atomy’s KZbin video showing the comp structure.
@yessir4385
@yessir4385 6 ай бұрын
I thinks it’s awesome that you can make any money at all just for continually buying products even if it takes years just to see $50 based on the activity of others on the down line. This is assuming you don’t want to do the business side of things. I’d never get any money from Walmart even after shopping their for over 20 years, not even $5 lol so I like the idea of buying my toothbrushes from Atomy and seeing random $50 get sent to me every year.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 6 ай бұрын
Overpaying inflated prices that support multiple levels of commission just to get $50 makes no sense. Would save way more than $50 shipping at regular retailers. The math isn’t adding up.
@yessir4385
@yessir4385 6 ай бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit but where else would I find something like hemohim? It’s done wonders and I would say it’s worth it
@bethlindow6835
@bethlindow6835 Жыл бұрын
This is not Atomy in any way or shape but your own mind frame. None of your views are correct,nor are your facts correct.. completely out of sorts. People wake up and look at the truth of Atomy for yourself without someone else's false views. From beginning to now Atomy is easiest residual income and Absolute highest standards in world for lowest prices and purest products with NIL ADDITIVES,FILLERS, CHEMICALS . I'M ACTUALLY ASHAMED OF HER IGNORANCE AND FALSE CLAIMS.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
Let’s see the income disclosure to check out how great the “business opportunity” is.
@PatrickAung93
@PatrickAung93 Жыл бұрын
All income disclosure of all mlm companies includes customers who are inside members who have no intent to do business
@thefreelanceworker3491
@thefreelanceworker3491 2 жыл бұрын
You keep on talking about "Income disclosure". Do you really know what that is for? You know what? Here is a more relevant question to ask if you are really concerned about people loosing money. How much money can a person lose by joining Atomy. :)
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
We are going in circles now. Atomy positions itself as a money making opportunity. I want to know how much money people make, not simply that they don’t “lose” money. It’s not a good business if all you do is break even 😂 it’s seriously such a basic business concept, one doesn’t need a business degree to understand that. And yes I know what income disclosures are and what they are for. And it’s a much more relevant question to anyone considering joining than just “how much money can you lose”. If they are just a buying club then maybe they should stop advertising all the commissions and bonuses and legs in their marketing videos (which I linked in the original video) ;)
@thefreelanceworker3491
@thefreelanceworker3491 2 жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit yes we are going in circles because that's exactly what you are trying to do. :) your arguments were all based on other MLM companies. You can't even give an actual scenario. If you are making reviews about company A, talk about what company A does and not what company B is doing. Let me bring you back to what we were discussing. You argued before that most people lose money in MLM that is why you wanted to see the income disclosure of the company to prove your point. Now that I have suggested that a better question to be asked is how much money can be lost, you are suddenly telling me that you are now concerned about how much money people are going to make? You see that? You will just keep on making up questions every time I logically answer your questions. Well since you asked, let me ask you back, did you ask that same question before making videos for youtube? Certainly YT is a known money making opportunity. I bet you did not asked YT how much money you can get before uploading your first video. In fact you worked for YT for free in the beginning by making videos for them. You did not ask them to show you the income disclosure of vloggers right? That is because you know that it will not affect your potential income. You know for a fact that only a handful of content creators earn from YT but that never stopped you. Because you have seen the product. And that product is the platform. You know that your income is solely based on your work. Does that makes sense to you? "It's not a good business if all you do is break even". Well yeah that's right. So how can an income disclosure tell you if you are going to earn or not? It will tell you that certain people make money while other do not. Did you think about that before making your videos for YT? I bet not. You only know that you will make money because you know you can make it work. Right? You don't need any degree to understand that. "If they are just a buying club then they should stop advertising commission?" First, who said that they are just a buying club? Next, just because they advertise commissions that makes them the same as other MLM company? Did you know that Tiktok is now giving referral bonuses everytime you invite a new user to use their app? Does that make them an MLM company? 🤣 Just answer the question. How much money can one lose from joining Atomy and we are done. 😉
@wendyhardwick3561
@wendyhardwick3561 2 жыл бұрын
@@tristancarax4572 go back and read your own comments. Atomy presents itself as a business opportunity, yet you admit it's hard to make money and you aren't making any. You also claim that you didn't make any money because other people didn't keep their word. You've demonstrated the 2 largest and most unethical issues with the mlm business structure. 1. Your income is not based on your sales, You aren't making any money from something presented to you as a money making opportunity and you did try to earn money. 2. Your income is based on other peoples work. You could work yourself into the ground, but if other people "Don't keep their word" you aren't earning an income. If you like the product, then buy the product, nobody that I've seen has told you that you couldn't. Just be aware that you are supporting a highly predatory and unethical business model that hurts 99% of the people it touches. And next time someone offers you a business opportunity and you consider joining to make some money, ask them directly how much money they are earning each month and ask to see their schedule c as proof of income. You have every right to ask that of someone asking you to invest your time and possibly money into a "business" of any kind. If you were buying a brick and motor business, they would be expected to open their books. If the people offering this opportunity shy away from fufilling *both* of those requests, run, they are not being honest about what you can expect to earn. I wish you luck in your future endeavors.
@mariafelisar.comendador1059
@mariafelisar.comendador1059 2 жыл бұрын
With all the talks… it is clear you don’t know anything about atomy… and you go yakity yak! It would have been best if in your investigation, you attended an orientation, asked questions, used the products before you open your mouth.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 yes, the ever mysterious atomy where the best way to make money is by recruiting others. It’s not about the product. But good luck, maybe you’ll be the 1% who don’t lose money. If they ever publish an income disclosure, please share a link. Have a great day.
@Atomysway
@Atomysway Жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit We do not disclose our earning in Atomy just to convince people like you. We do not do that. The product will speak for itself. Other companies need to do that because they entice people to join. Why shoud we do that in Atomy? You are a FAULT FINDER spirit. May you go in peace.
@grantferrigan3837
@grantferrigan3837 Жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit It's impossible to lose money in Atomy, except for toothpate and toothbrush haha!
@Chichibu01
@Chichibu01 Жыл бұрын
You know very little about Atomy. Atomy company is very transparent, study their compensation plan, just do a little bit more research before you make a video about it. You’ll learn a lot.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
I looked at the comp plan. Would love to see their income disclosure.
@paulamcfall
@paulamcfall 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing Your opinion does not way out the fact that without experence behind your words You are not someone who I would believe So I would not follow you Who are you ? Let me make an opion about you Let me see you must be ....... someone that is only words and that in my opinion is very very weak and no guts to give something a fare chance
@misterlee1390
@misterlee1390 Жыл бұрын
Nah I know enough of atomy to know that's this video is half knowledge
@PatrickAung93
@PatrickAung93 11 ай бұрын
You gave her too much credit. 90% of what she said is false
@misterlee1390
@misterlee1390 11 ай бұрын
@@PatrickAung93 with half knowledge I mean she didn't dive deep enough to present factual red flags. Einstein said something like, halfknowledge is the illusion of knowledge, and worse then ignorance.
@PatrickAung93
@PatrickAung93 11 ай бұрын
@@misterlee1390 may I know what are the actual red flags? wow
@PatrickAung93
@PatrickAung93 11 ай бұрын
@@misterlee1390 hi, i kindly await your answer on what are the red flags. thanks. if you can prove me wrong, i will quit Atomy and network marketing in general. And when I say prove me wrong, i am not talking about some random misinformation created by the antimlmers. Be it lobbying or 99.7% FTC or income disclosure or any other nonsense mumbo jumbo that I have carefully dissected and debunked very very thoroughly in all my Anti-antimlm videos.
@Senaliah
@Senaliah Жыл бұрын
You clearly lack understanding of the topic, my friend. Just to clarify, I'm not associated with Atomy. I'm actually involved with a different MLM and I'm quite satisfied. I challenge you to gain a deeper insight by experiencing it at a more advanced level over a few months and perhaps even create a video about your experience. Best of luck!
@GOWOSOLUTIONS
@GOWOSOLUTIONS Жыл бұрын
your audience deserve better, a lot of false Info. atomy is free guys. every year you just need to have 1 ithem at the lowest price $3, to keep the account active. just the compensation plan is a bit challenging.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
My audience deserve better than to fall prey to an MLM 👍
@Atomysway
@Atomysway Жыл бұрын
You do not know Atomy for you to make such a video. Shame on you for making a video to discredit a brand that helps so many ordinary people like me. Atomy system is the most righteous mlm system ever existed at prsent. Unlike otherS PYRAMID like structures. No Membership fee. No monthly quota. Basic necessisties products like toothpaste, toothbrush. coffee is much much more cheaper than in the market. Absolute quality yet affordable price. i.e. Atomy Arabica coffee is only 9 Philippine peso per pc. E-Omega 3 is only Ph 6 per capsule. How can you say the price is expensive? Plus every products has equivalent PV(Point Value) unlike other brands.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
Let’s see that income disclosure then if atomy is so different. The issue with MLMs are the products but the business structure where more than 99% don’t make any money. Atomy doesn’t just position itself as a store, they are saying it’s a business opportunity…
@grantferrigan3837
@grantferrigan3837 Жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit Actually, we do position ourselves as a store / shopping mall. Atomy is all about customers. Now, likely, some distributors lie as well, unfortunately.
@PatrickAung93
@PatrickAung93 Жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit strawman fallacy
@pabloyi
@pabloyi Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I hate atomy so much
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
Yay finally a fresh comment not from an atomy rep haha ❤️❤️❤️
@baharyzdn8992
@baharyzdn8992 5 ай бұрын
It’s totally incorrect .
@allanbacina5680
@allanbacina5680 Жыл бұрын
Atomy is the best company ever so generous,,, aja
@mireyaleduc1660
@mireyaleduc1660 Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why people like you victimized, criticized the network companies. The first thing you do need to do is join ATOMY for free then you can find out by yourself the kind of company is ATOMY. You said that we get only a 10% in our commission, so tell me who or which company that you suggest you can get products of absolute quality and no chemicals added and gives you a 10% back ? No one right? ATOMY IS NOT A MLM COMPANY and why is not a MLM ? because there are no levels; therefore ATOMY is a network company that offers whoever likes to join the opportunity to purchase any product with no pressure ,once so ever and yet Quality Products and AFFORDABLE PRICE.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
I criticize network companies because they promise a business opportunity in a field where well over 90% of people lose money. Atomy is even shadier since they won’t bother to release an income disclosure. If it made the company look good, they would have definitely release it. Legs are levels, atomy is an MLM. Have a great day.
@PatrickAung93
@PatrickAung93 11 ай бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit First off, that is an outdated statistic, The more recent studies from AARP shows that 52 percent breaks even and makes a profit. Next, they may say FTC research shows that Network marketing has 99.7% failure rates. However, FTC did not conduct any studies of sort. the 99.7% ( which is Outdated, btw) is conjured up by Jon M Taylor who is in no ways shapes or forms related to FTC at all. he is in fact, the founder of consumer awareness institute, to which when i first heard it, gave me the impression that they handle all kinds of consumer rip offs across all kinds of industries, not just MLM network marketing. but unfortunately, when i googled it, the only thing this consumer awareness institute ever talked about in history, is mlm. it is not known to be registered under any business entity, no physical office location were found, no past employee records found. Now some may say that FTC endorses or promotes Jon M Taylor's work, which is why it is appearing in the FTC public comments. however, little do they realize, the report was put up on FTC Public comment section. and after reading many many many many unprofessional comments in the public comment section, it is safe to say that anybody can post anything in the public comment section, as long as it is not life threatening or pose risks to national security. And with all these information, the arguments made by antimlm all comes falling apart.
@wiramaz
@wiramaz Жыл бұрын
Talk too much at the matters she didn't know well
@memorylane8395
@memorylane8395 Жыл бұрын
I'm not a professional on this case, but I'll give my opinion. I have a friend who started distributing Atomy and yes, she started promoting it and trying to advertise it to me so that I would buy it. And it was clear that she was upset that I was not interested, as she was losing her potential money. I do not like to communicate with people who see me as their money. So I would say that this is a pyramid, although it is organized differently. Personally, I like to buy cosmetics of different brands and not use only the same one. But I have nothing against Atomy cosmetics.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
Sadly this happens a lot with MLMs - relationships become transactional
@jessietanable
@jessietanable 6 ай бұрын
Atomy model is square. The model is not pyramid. Pyramid is the one who is on the Top will make all the big money. Square is the top leaders will have an earning capped. Everyone has a fair chance to reach the top and get the same money as the previous leaders.
@mariacalizaire7032
@mariacalizaire7032 Жыл бұрын
Atomy is the beeeeest AJA AJA AJA
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the engagement
@kimh478
@kimh478 7 ай бұрын
Wow, I'm appalled at so many of your statements that are incorrect, wrong assumption, misleading, and so on. I think Atomy should sue you for making such a false statement and making Atomy company a false/negative reputation. Clearly you didn't study well enough to create this kind of videos to tell the world Atomy is a bad company. Before talking about prices of Atomy products, we should compare the products' quality with other cheap brands. Atomy is like a global online shopping mall, you buy what you need, when you need it. Imagine, if Amazon paid us for shopping at Amazon shopping mall. Atomy is just that. It is MLM because that is the only way the company can pay its members (in Atomy - Atomy is sharing the company's profit with its eligible members and what is wrong with that? No one is forced to buy, recruit, sell, do the business. Everything is optional. When we join Atomy, we own the right to run a global online shopping mall for free~ One thing positive about this video - it drives people away from Atomy so less competition for Atomy business partners lol. Everyone, do your own research and please don't trust this video.
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 7 ай бұрын
Being an MLM isn’t the only way Atomy can pay its members. Wow. Also, Amazon has a great affiliate program that doesn’t rely on people recruiting other affiliates. Good luck.
@PatrickAung93
@PatrickAung93 7 ай бұрын
​@@kbeautyhobbitso basically atomy allows affiliate marketing PLUS additional benefits like building a sales team, and earning from their performance, just like any other traditional sales company??? Thanks for pointing out the benefits and perks! Thankssss
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 7 ай бұрын
@PatrickAung93 not at all what I said but talking to you is fruitless thus I tend to not engage 🤷‍♀️ feel free to reach back out once an income disclosure is available. Or when FTC stops warning people about MLMs 😚
@PatrickAung93
@PatrickAung93 6 ай бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit I do not know why my comment got deleted. Information control much? Or are you going to blame it on youtube auto delete system? how oddly convenient. getting back to topic, I love how antimlm quickly changes the topic when they know they can't win a debate. But okay. Did you forget to mention how Neora won the case? The truth will out! What about the more recent case, Two SEC lawyers on the IX Global / Debt Box case "resigned" after they got caught lying to the court. And what about FTC? The FTC is now trying to strong arm larger tech companies and they're not having it. People with influence are starting to say "wait a second, this is ridiculous." just google "amazon CEO andy jassy FTC" A lot of people are speaking out. And they are starting to turn on the propaganda of antimlm. This comment section of this youtube video is the beginning. I sincerely hope more and more people start speaking out.
@Skycrapers-z4v
@Skycrapers-z4v Ай бұрын
😂mind others business 😂
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit Ай бұрын
Thanks for the engagement :)
@racheleckart9462
@racheleckart9462 2 жыл бұрын
Man, this sounds super confusing! No thanks!
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
Right? If they have to make it this complicated, that’s a red flag.
@thefreelanceworker3491
@thefreelanceworker3491 2 жыл бұрын
It is confusing because it's not the usual MLM where you earn thru the entry fees of your invites. It's basically an online shopping mall where you can buy korean quality household products at wholesale price. Everytime your invites purchase a product, they earn points. When these points accumulates and reach a certain level, you will earn cash. The good thing about this is that there is no joining fee. There is no reason to join if you don't need the products.
@thefreelanceworker3491
@thefreelanceworker3491 2 жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit There is no membership fee. How can it be a red flag? It's just an online shopping mall. If you need something, go ahead and just buy it. If you liked it, then share it. As simple as that. It's not rocket science. 🙂 It's an MLM for CONSUMERS and for Distributors. :)
@kbeautyhobbit
@kbeautyhobbit 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefreelanceworker3491 the lack of membership fee isn’t the red flag. It’s all the other things :)
@thefreelanceworker3491
@thefreelanceworker3491 2 жыл бұрын
@@kbeautyhobbit Those other things you are talking about are only based on your assumption. I suggest, rather than talk about the compensation plan that do not makes sense to you, why not talk about the products in detail and compare them to other brands. The registration is free so there is no reason for you to think that Atomy is trying to hide anything. Go ahead and create your account and explore. That way you can expose Atomy's secrets more accurately.
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