Before the Dodgers | Lost LA | Season 1, Episode 2 | KCET

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Long before Sandy Koufax threw Dodger Stadium's first pitch, and even before the first residents moved into Chavez Ravine, there were the Elysian Hills. Raised up by tectonic forces, and carved into deep ravines by the ancient precursor of the Los Angeles River, these hills have meant many things to many people. They were a refuge from floods for the region's native Tongva Indians, and then a source of quarried stone soon after the city fell under American sovereignty. In this episode, "Lost LA" explores the various ways Southern California's inhabitants have used the hills around Dodger Stadium. The program looks at an old lithographic view of L.A. as drawn from an Elysian hilltop, the vanished neighborhood of Chavez Ravine, and a massive construction project that reshaped the land into a modern baseball palace.
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@raymondalverez5999
@raymondalverez5999 Жыл бұрын
I was born and raised EAST of EAST Los Angeles (AZUSA/IRWINDALE) CALIFORNIA. So much for my NATIVE American/JAPANESE Roots. Chumas-Tong-va, With JAPANESE Heritage. Sweet memories 😢
@gregfisher
@gregfisher 5 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Los Angeles in the late 1940's-50's and I remember watching them build Dodger Stadium. It displaced quite a few families...but not nearly as many as the construction of the Harbor Freeway.
@xjew4ux
@xjew4ux 4 жыл бұрын
Gregory Fisher and the lax fwy
@sredson
@sredson 4 жыл бұрын
So can you tell me how the air back then smelled? I know It's completely off-topic, but how did you guys live with all the lead exhaust fumes during that era?
@lawrence-yx1ew
@lawrence-yx1ew 3 жыл бұрын
@@sredson my father tells me there were days where it hurt to breathe. Do everyone just staying inside
@benjaminlibertarianscorpio
@benjaminlibertarianscorpio 3 жыл бұрын
All freeways interestingly lead to Anaheim and Disneyland I reckon Disney displaced more people
@benjaminlibertarianscorpio
@benjaminlibertarianscorpio 3 жыл бұрын
And also excludedBlacks and LatinX and also gay people
@jinjitsu4350
@jinjitsu4350 7 жыл бұрын
One of the oldest hospital next to dodger stadium is Barlow. It was built in 1902 and still in business today.
@dislikesquare8749
@dislikesquare8749 Жыл бұрын
You've done your homework. It was abandoned as a hospital and repurposed not long after it was built.
@lindawoody8501
@lindawoody8501 3 жыл бұрын
My late great grand aunt Ruth was one of those last few residents at Chavez Ravine. She was a renter and good friends with the owner with whom she had lived. Both were very elderly women. My great grand aunt was the lady who shook her cane for the newspaper camera in a famous photo that has been circulated for several years. She was never the same after she had to move out and lived unhappily for several months in temporary motel housing before finding a new place for her remaining years. So, I say: Always remember Chavez Ravine, the neighborhood that was.
@dislikesquare8749
@dislikesquare8749 Жыл бұрын
Truly sad.
@RonPaulgirls
@RonPaulgirls Жыл бұрын
WE NEED TO MASS DEPORT MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS FROM CALIFORNIA TO MAKE IT GREAT AGAIN.........AND NOT LOOK LIKE TJ.
@margiearaujo6680
@margiearaujo6680 Жыл бұрын
It is a shame that the residents of Chavez Ravine were never given anything for their land by the La city council, till this day they have never been 😢given a marker to remember the residents
@higher_pwr8178
@higher_pwr8178 Жыл бұрын
The city paid residents 10k. Those who refused to leave turned down the eminent domain payment were issuedunlawful detainers.
@arttrujillo7949
@arttrujillo7949 Жыл бұрын
​@@higher_pwr8178Kind of like the Indians. Told what to do or else.
@loualcaraz6497
@loualcaraz6497 5 жыл бұрын
If you were born in the 50's in LA and are Mexican-American, you knew somebody who was displaced. The stories were horrific.
@garryfield5319
@garryfield5319 7 жыл бұрын
i have to say that this is one of the best films i have ever seen.both great and sad at the same time..good post.
@fingersfan1843
@fingersfan1843 3 жыл бұрын
My family and I lived in the LA area from 1958 to 1973. We attended dozens of Dodger games. I never knew the story of the forced evictions of the inhabitants of the area that became Dodger Stadium !
@danielmorse6597
@danielmorse6597 7 жыл бұрын
Good show! A former SoCal resident I was always amazed by the place. It's amazing, if somewhat, dark history.
@Russell-x8w
@Russell-x8w 2 ай бұрын
My friend's father was an man named Jose. He was born in 1929 and was raised in Chavez Ravine. Jose told me how he and his family were forced out and had to move to Lincoln Heights. Strangely, he was a big Dodger's fan, but some of his family refused to ever go to the stadium. Jose is gone now and I regret not asking him more questions about his neighborhood, etc. We did talk about Chavez Ravine, but I have so many unanswered questions for him that I will never be able to ask, nor know the answers.
@calihustler08
@calihustler08 8 жыл бұрын
thank you KCET
@p2p104
@p2p104 Жыл бұрын
I am not american, never been to L.A. but these series are work of art documentary.
@ZhangtheGreat
@ZhangtheGreat 7 жыл бұрын
Even some fans today don't realize how important Fernando Valenzuela was for the Dodgers. It was his presence and performances that helped heal many of the wounds left from the forced evictions at Chavez Ravine in order to build Dodger Stadium.
@Lawomenshoops
@Lawomenshoops 5 жыл бұрын
Sandy Koufax did NOT throw the first pitch at dodger stadium. The starting pitcher for the LA dodgers on April 10, 1962 was Johnny Podres!!
@johndough23
@johndough23 5 жыл бұрын
KCET has a Racist Caucasian bias.
@sweetmapleleafs
@sweetmapleleafs 5 жыл бұрын
Sandy Koufax didnt even throw the first no hitter at Dodger Stadium. Bo Belinsky of the Angels beat Koufax to it by 51 days
@robburnquist
@robburnquist 4 жыл бұрын
@@johndough23 seriously. Go to 4:28
@pt8175
@pt8175 4 жыл бұрын
Yep Johnny Podres was the pitcher. At 1 p.m., Kay O’Malley threw out the ceremonial first pitch to catcher John Roseboro. The honor was a “two day early” birthday present from her husband who was the Dodger President Walter O'Malley.
@AnimeBronx
@AnimeBronx 4 жыл бұрын
You’re wrong. They are talking about Opening Day, not exhibition.
@ddoperations2768
@ddoperations2768 5 жыл бұрын
La was actually nice back in 1877.
@jamesallen5591
@jamesallen5591 5 жыл бұрын
It was okay. But nothing like 1860, when it really started to go downhill.
@DrunkenSlob
@DrunkenSlob 5 жыл бұрын
D&D Operations it’s nice now I’m sorry you’re broke and find yourself in the shithole but the rest of us get to enjoy the west side
@jamesallen5591
@jamesallen5591 5 жыл бұрын
@@DrunkenSlob Do all jokes fly that high over your head?
@DrunkenSlob
@DrunkenSlob 5 жыл бұрын
James Allen who’s replying to you?
@jamesallen5591
@jamesallen5591 5 жыл бұрын
@@DrunkenSlob I'm posting on the internet. Why don't you have arrested for committing that crime? Moron.
@stevekatz9986
@stevekatz9986 8 жыл бұрын
many hispanics were evicted from their homes to build dodger stadium...for years no hispanics would see the dodgers play...now 90% of the fans at the park are hispanic.......WTF
@elchivato8147
@elchivato8147 8 жыл бұрын
Two words Fernando Valenzuela
@stevekatz9986
@stevekatz9986 8 жыл бұрын
I guess.....also human have a short memory span
@creativekiiier1649
@creativekiiier1649 7 жыл бұрын
humans or mexicans?
@1richnasty
@1richnasty 7 жыл бұрын
Of course it started with Fernando. Not quite 90% of the fans at the stadium are Hispanic but I feel a large amount is because Fernando and it is Los Angeles. Don’t matter what ethnicity goes to the stadium we all have one thing in common. We bleed Dodger Blue.
@markemyshibukawa9254
@markemyshibukawa9254 7 жыл бұрын
Yup! Doyer Dogs!
@krusty6246
@krusty6246 5 жыл бұрын
It’s always screw the lower class over big business
@mborges2133
@mborges2133 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, thank you for remembering the barrio of Chavez Ravine!
@steelmike1981
@steelmike1981 Жыл бұрын
The Barrio or a future of hoodlums having another hood to call home. The history sucks, yes, but most hood vatos would have made things worse.
@misacruzader
@misacruzader 2 ай бұрын
I would honestly and truly like to see a movie about this Los Angeles history. So few stories of Chicanos are told and I think this is a testament to our legacy.
@maryMartinez1813
@maryMartinez1813 7 жыл бұрын
My great grandfather bought the first land in Chavez ravine thats why is called Chavez ravine, then other people came and settled there. My sir name is Chavez and I am Proud of it.
@esvinperez7225
@esvinperez7225 7 жыл бұрын
mary Martinez sad to know what happened to those family members
@maryMartinez1813
@maryMartinez1813 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for your thoughts.
@cinewillp6391
@cinewillp6391 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome that your surname is Chavez, I always take time to cut thru the area and imagine old LA on my way back to Silverlake..
@maryMartinez1813
@maryMartinez1813 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir.
@hendrixphish420
@hendrixphish420 7 жыл бұрын
surname
@jesseflores9087
@jesseflores9087 5 жыл бұрын
The battles that occurred between Mexican and US armies in downtown LA over possession of the city was not mentioned and is kind important.
@Kain5th
@Kain5th 3 жыл бұрын
They do in other episodes
@windelarigago1100
@windelarigago1100 Жыл бұрын
I lived in Chavez revine in 1958 janet Frey🥰
@chadjaeger7626
@chadjaeger7626 5 жыл бұрын
The constant drone of music under the spoken parts of this documentary is distracting and unnecessary.
@TimothyForbesXXI
@TimothyForbesXXI 5 жыл бұрын
Chavez Ravine is to Los Angeles like the 98 Acres is to Albany, NY. Sad.
@gerardoaguilar4579
@gerardoaguilar4579 4 жыл бұрын
This so so beautiful... what once was
@anthonyelgin8653
@anthonyelgin8653 4 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe Tonka tribes once lived there,I always played with tonka toys,it brought joy but at what costs,cleared my memory of the tribe which I know so little of ,I can only hope their are existing members.honor those who are silenced .
@AntonioGomez-lk6jm
@AntonioGomez-lk6jm 5 жыл бұрын
Being of Hispanic decent, I didn't know about this, then again I was only 8 yrs old. But I'm surprised that my dad who came from Mexico in the late forties didn't mention this to me. He was a big Dodgers fan, as well as I, as well as my son. But now, after listening to this bit of history, I'm very frustrated to hear of this. I'm all for progress, but not at the expense of human disregard! I remember back in 1974, I along with my wife and my two little girls were out trick or treating, I accidentally parked my car a few inches into this driveway, the gentleman who was waiting for us to return to move my car started to come down on me pretty hard, I apologized, but he had to throw in the race card, by telling us that we should go back where we came from, I then told him we are where we come from and he should go back to school to brush up on his history, because all of California belonged to Mexico at one time. Now this 2019 and we're still being told to go back to where we came from, is this progress??? Physically the land (scape) will change, but not the people, sad...
@Sohowyoubeen
@Sohowyoubeen 5 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry that has happened to you and your family but one thing to look forward to is that the Latino population is the fastest growing demographic in the US. While that may mean more problems in the future it also means progress for our races. This growing demographic will bring more college graduates = more professional in the work field. This also means that the majority (white people) and the ones that believe we should will have accept us into society because they’ll be the minority. This has become the meaning of some protest and the call for harder immigration laws but the fact is immigration has slowed down and the demographic growing is from folks like you that have created a family after years of being here. The results of heavy immigration in the 1970s and 80s is a result of the destruction of governments in the homelands where the U.S had enforced their will and created uneasiness causing immigration. The caravans are a result of the same thing and in a couple of decades we’ll see a boost in the Latino population.
@DrunkenSlob
@DrunkenSlob 5 жыл бұрын
Erik Lopez when you become the majority make sure you don’t become hypocrites and start discriminating against the new minority as some kind of revenge for the past. Keep moving foward and don’t punish innocent people for the sins of their ancestors
@clvrswine
@clvrswine 5 жыл бұрын
No one from this area cared. They were happy to attain the American Dream. Stop using 3 question marks, which is not English, and start being appreciative. My grandparents worked hard, moved as was necessary, and did very well. Never once mentioned race. Only losers mention race. DO go back. Do it. You are the trash that failed because you thought someone held you back. You are the very reason for your own failure.
@Sohowyoubeen
@Sohowyoubeen 5 жыл бұрын
@@clvrswine that's not true. The systems that are lined up for our families have failed the latino community. You can't possibly tell me that if our two very races that most prominent in california have had equal oppurtunity. The latino population before this century wasn't know to have college students. But the latino population has been rising in all states so it makes sense that white donald trump supporters are afraid.
@Justsayin-p5g
@Justsayin-p5g 5 жыл бұрын
The whole this was Mexico 's land first is BS. I wish Mexican/American people would simply be honest with them selves. Mexico has and still doesn't give a crap about it's own people. They treated their own people, like the whites treated the blacks in the US. You should be ashamed of the Mexican flag instead of flying it. If it's about pride, then fly a Azteca flag.
@aaronwilliams6989
@aaronwilliams6989 3 жыл бұрын
WOOAH! WHAT A HISTORY!
@Adartse310
@Adartse310 Жыл бұрын
Great doc, heavy content.
@elmascavidal1797
@elmascavidal1797 5 жыл бұрын
They displaced all those Mexicans... they did them dirty 🤦🏻‍♂️💭💭💭
@lukepeita7026
@lukepeita7026 3 жыл бұрын
This is so insightful gotta love this stuff
@gamernorcal
@gamernorcal 7 жыл бұрын
think if Dodger stadium was reversed. You would have a great shot of Downtown L.A. viewing from home plate out to the outfield.
@charlesjwin
@charlesjwin 7 жыл бұрын
Gamer Norcal The Dodgers would have had to landscape the topography quite differently.
@LongieR8er
@LongieR8er 7 жыл бұрын
Gamer norcal, the sun would be killer if the stadium was reversed. Also walking out of the top deck seating area and looking towards DTLA is jaw dropping, especially at night.
@kenrhino7904
@kenrhino7904 5 жыл бұрын
But the sun would be in the player's eyes.
@joevignolor4u949
@joevignolor4u949 5 жыл бұрын
And don't forget that the Dodgers were the heart and soul of another neighborhood back in Brooklyn. That heart and soul was ripped out and moved to Los Angeles. Ebbits Field was demolished and turned into a pubic housing project while the public housing project in LA was never built and Dodger Stadium was built there instead. I guess that money is all that matters in the modern world.
@bradwesley8419
@bradwesley8419 5 жыл бұрын
Money is pretty important, go to the grocery store and see if a poem or tap dance will pay for the groceries next time.
@joevignolor4u949
@joevignolor4u949 5 жыл бұрын
​@@bradwesley8419 Yes money is important. But it isn't everything. Both the Dodgers and Braves abandoned their cities and moved away due to economic conditions and changing demographics. But Tom Yawkey stuck it out and kept the Red Sox in Boston. That's why both the team and Fenway Park are still here today instead of another apartment building.
@bradwesley8419
@bradwesley8419 5 жыл бұрын
Joe Vignolo It’s a free market, last I checked. An owner of a team risks his or her capital into the franchise, there’s no fault trying to make the best deal possible as long as it’s within the legal boundaries
@joevignolor4u949
@joevignolor4u949 5 жыл бұрын
@@bradwesley8419 Well I don't completely agree. There is something to be said for incorporating loyalty to a community and to your fan base and to considering people's feelings and emotions when making decisions. Otherwise it will continue turning into a pretty cold and hard world when everything is just all about money.
@bradwesley8419
@bradwesley8419 5 жыл бұрын
Joe Vignolo As soon as you start working for free or exist in a world where money is irrelevant, I’ll take you seriously
@josecarranza7555
@josecarranza7555 4 жыл бұрын
This is why my family and I are not Dodgers fans, we're Angels fans. Angels were named after the city of Los Angeles and been here in LA market ever since the late 1890's, as a minor league team until 1957. Gene Autry bought back the Angels name for the Los Angeles Angels. Angels are LA's original team.
@southsidecompton9668
@southsidecompton9668 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck the Angels fuck Orange County!
@josecarranza7555
@josecarranza7555 2 жыл бұрын
@@southsidecompton9668 You sound stupid.
@locotx215
@locotx215 7 жыл бұрын
If you want to know why Fernandomaina happened. That's why. The poor short fat shy Mexican kid who grew up to be Fernando Valenzuela symbolically came back to "reclaim" and own Chavez Ravine for Mexicans again. His success on that very soil is extremely symbolic for all generations of local Mexicans.
@MrSpolaR
@MrSpolaR 5 жыл бұрын
Loco Tx you realize native Americans were there before Mexicans right...
@savagedick3848
@savagedick3848 5 жыл бұрын
and now Dodger Stadium is unsafe
@brentguy3117
@brentguy3117 5 жыл бұрын
Can you still get a hot dog there or is it all tacos now? And how do all these illegals afford to go to a game? Welfare? Drugs?
@janetshaw4130
@janetshaw4130 5 жыл бұрын
The Tongva people? Where are they now!?
@ubroc
@ubroc 3 жыл бұрын
Displaced by the people who were displaced by the Dodgers.
@asiafaith6736
@asiafaith6736 2 жыл бұрын
Right here !! We are still here !!
@eugeniofernandez8101
@eugeniofernandez8101 3 жыл бұрын
The Chavez-Ravine story was sad....
@Mickcotton
@Mickcotton 5 жыл бұрын
So Sad 😞
@ronlight7013
@ronlight7013 Жыл бұрын
Does anybody know, is Mount Lookout the site of what's generally referred to as a "forty-niner" (pow wow) in the movie The Exiles?
@charlesdowell4505
@charlesdowell4505 8 ай бұрын
I was a kid then living right off Riverside Dr, I remember the turmoil surrounding land acquisitions and stand offs with residents at the time.
@thebeerlovinglover9278
@thebeerlovinglover9278 6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful view from the stadium but they really didn't take in consideration how it would impact traffic and residential areas surrounding the stadium.. traffic is horrible when its game day.
@redlopez8528
@redlopez8528 5 жыл бұрын
My home the Northeast Los Angeles!
@patrickstevens7786
@patrickstevens7786 4 жыл бұрын
I love Elysian Park!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@iamgermane
@iamgermane 10 ай бұрын
They did not have pictures of the before? I find that hard to believe.
@marytrout6131
@marytrout6131 7 жыл бұрын
I never knew the story of how Dodger Stadium came to be . It is sad what is scarificed in the name of progress . Thank you KCET for the best programming, more people could learn from from you station .
@CesarClouds
@CesarClouds Жыл бұрын
13:49 I see camera crews, does anybody know if that footage is available for viewing?
@nedludd7622
@nedludd7622 3 жыл бұрын
The stadium was built with private money, which was better than the taxpayer funding used since. However, the land was another thing. In 1949 it was planned to be a public housing area and it was acquired in large by eminent domain. Then a new mayor canceled that project. The city acquired the land at a low price from a federal agency. The Dodgers got the land in exchange for some other land they owned, but I couldn't find details on that. Anyway, effectively eminent domain was used to build a private sports stadium. George W. Bush's group used that tactic to build their baseball stadium. That is how GWB made his fortune, on stolen land.
@timwoods3171
@timwoods3171 5 жыл бұрын
Terrific, enlightening documentary for the eyes of a Midwesterner... every bit sobering too, I'm sure, to the ancestors of the Chavez Ravine community.
@kdm71291
@kdm71291 2 жыл бұрын
So, was the lithograph taken from about where the Elysian Park helipad is....or a little farther towards the stadium...on a hill top that was brought down?
@richardvasquez8911
@richardvasquez8911 5 жыл бұрын
Surely this was a sad day 4 Chavez ravine neighborhood and the other neighborhoods dodger stadium should have been put at Murano Beach
@kikeruiz539
@kikeruiz539 3 жыл бұрын
Hope we get a movie to show what happened
@275Vet-RLTW
@275Vet-RLTW 7 ай бұрын
Only 20 families were left when they started to build dodger stadium? Id always pictured way more based on the historical villification
@Predicatetoalife
@Predicatetoalife 8 жыл бұрын
I'm truly saddened at this piece of historical information and that I didn't know it sooner.
@drfunk1986
@drfunk1986 5 жыл бұрын
you're sad about learning?
@aaronwilliams6989
@aaronwilliams6989 3 жыл бұрын
@@drfunk1986 She is sad about WHAT she learned in this video.
@danielpenkoff688
@danielpenkoff688 4 жыл бұрын
As I sit here typing out this response, my heart is breaking. I was born in Van Nuys, and grew up in Altadena and South Pasadena during the 60-70's. In the foothills of Altadena, there were hiking/horse trails all over. I used to hike down to the front gate of JPL. I remember going to Dodger Stadium in the late 60's, as well as the LA Zoo (two of my favorite places). At the time, I had zero clue about the history of Chavez Ravine, and the cold and cruel destruction of a beautiful and vibrant community. Greed and money motivated O'Malley to move forward with the construction of Dodger Stadium (I suppose also for his love of baseball). To think of our history comes with sadness. Michigan is now home for me. I get out to visit my grandparents and son's graves at Forest Lawn in Glendale. I see what is going on back home with COVID-19, and the scenes break my heart. Please be safe, everyone. Follow accepted practices and look after one another. We will get through this pandemic together. Peace.Dan.
@zacharyoliver5332
@zacharyoliver5332 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't this season 1 e2? You have two different videos labeled as s2e2 .
@Casatoman
@Casatoman 3 жыл бұрын
I bleed dodger blue but after watching this it's hard to look at the team the same.
@briansmith9439
@briansmith9439 7 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see a documentary that explored Chavez Ravine in greater detail. What were the prices paid for the properties by the residents, and when? What was offered by the City? In hindsight, it's easy to complain about prices obtained but in the late 1990s one could buy a single family home in Echo Park for under $100,000 - the 1932 duplex on a quarter-acre where I lived sold for $99,000; it's current value is close to $1 million. The City maintains that many did not actually own the land but, rather, were squatters on the land after having appropriated unoccupied land for their own use. It was the inability to prove land ownership that led to many of the evictions. If a person held title to the land, it is a simple matter of presenting the title but the City maintains, and the court records support the contention, around 25% of residents could not produce such a title. What was the structural integrity of the homes? Many were described as self-built shacks without bathrooms or running water that were cobbled together with debris taken from other building sites but some of the pictures show quite elaborate houses rather than shacks. Pictures on this site show both: www.chavezravine.org/the-story-in-pictures.html. Even the pro-Ravine site mentioned states that the area was not hooked up to City water, sewage, or electricity. Lots of questions continue to 'dog' Chavez Ravine; questions that could be answered by evaluating the situation with an objective eye and digging into the extant records.
@ShmuelWeintraub
@ShmuelWeintraub 5 жыл бұрын
Brian: There's a great documentary (I believe done by Bullfrog Films) about the history of the people of Chavez Ravine, what the original plans for the land were and how they were corrupted by moneyed interests. Eventually, when O'Malley wanted to move, the land that had been expropriated was still 'vacant' and they built there. It's well worth watching... I don't believe it's on KZbin but it is available for download on iTunes (I think)... possibly on Netflix also, not sure. This one is narrated by Cheech Marin). IIRC, in it Wilkinson states that the prices paid for the land would have been enough for the families to purchase apartments (subsidized) in the new development, but not enough to by market rate housing elsewhere. Once the ravine development was cancelled, the families were unable to buy anywhere close and most dispersed throughout L.A.
@almeggs3247
@almeggs3247 2 жыл бұрын
The greatest loss was the pacific electric!
@HarZoiD
@HarZoiD Жыл бұрын
My main gripe, aside from the terrible forced evictions, is that the stadium should have been rotated 180 degrees to face downtown LA. The views would have been stunning.
@FutureMixTV
@FutureMixTV 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thank you!
@huarachudo47
@huarachudo47 5 жыл бұрын
Every colonization has it's dark side... but the result is always better than you'd expect. Now DodgerStadium is a symbol for the city, and most Angelinos of hispanic heritage are die hard fans for the Dodgers. I certanly am. Go Dodgers.
@PICHIORTIZ2008
@PICHIORTIZ2008 6 жыл бұрын
Chavez Ravine, we´ll never forgette
@gme213la2
@gme213la2 5 жыл бұрын
damn inmagine now a days it would be a huge part of LA like east LA or south gate didn't know the complete story sad what maney does.
@normansilver905
@normansilver905 Жыл бұрын
In he days of he old PCL I was a Hollywood Stars Fa. Rarely missed a game. Even traveled to Seattle to see them beat the Ranier's. The PCL was fun BUT nothing compared to todays MLB
@williammize8270
@williammize8270 3 жыл бұрын
Younger generation don't care about past that's screwed up parent need to teach their children about their legacy their past is the future
@uchihadabba699
@uchihadabba699 Жыл бұрын
I went to the Room 8 School, Elysian Heights Elementary in the 70’s and this story was never taught.
@sighentertainment475
@sighentertainment475 Жыл бұрын
And that's why the big one is coming
@yourguidetorights3909
@yourguidetorights3909 Жыл бұрын
You make it sound like the dodgers wiped out Chavez Ravine. The city of Los Angeles did it in 1952. Long before the Dodgers were even in the picture. 😊
@rsls101
@rsls101 2 жыл бұрын
Im really glad to see when I go to dodger stadium I see a lot of Latino influence there. People, ads, food, music, drinks and events. I personally feel the dodgers and the stadium owe so much to Latino community.
@elamenaza7595
@elamenaza7595 5 жыл бұрын
Raza listen to Ry Coodler Chavez Ravin , El Palo Verde real facts
@heidi7151
@heidi7151 5 жыл бұрын
That cartoon at the end was so overly maudlin and hilarious 😂
@gordybishop2375
@gordybishop2375 5 жыл бұрын
Can you guys please place the tittle of the show, lol n this case Lost LA in the titles of the videoed you post?
@TalesfromtheRails
@TalesfromtheRails 4 жыл бұрын
And some of the houses were moved to universal studios in Hollywood
@lynnstone6998
@lynnstone6998 5 ай бұрын
@ericunderwood6728
@ericunderwood6728 6 жыл бұрын
the roads are the path to civilization...I have a stock certificate of water from Santa Ana Valley Irrigation Company, sixty five cents per share, Nov, 18,1902, from Orange CA.
@williammize8270
@williammize8270 3 жыл бұрын
Sure doesn't look like Los Angeles wow what a view who lived there then 1877?
@rickpaton7538
@rickpaton7538 5 жыл бұрын
Shades of Robert Moses. In his era as well. I wonder if the city consulted with him.
@aicofrena505
@aicofrena505 4 жыл бұрын
Why do chicanos love the dodgers look at this history
@aicofrena505
@aicofrena505 4 жыл бұрын
Go Padres the Original Southern Ca team
@aaronwilliams6989
@aaronwilliams6989 3 жыл бұрын
@@aicofrena505 That is the Angels. They actually came before the Padres did.
@TIMOWHITEBUFFALO
@TIMOWHITEBUFFALO 2 жыл бұрын
But did they pay the home owners a fair pay for kicking them out...????!!!!!! I doubt it...!!!!
@cjsligojones5101
@cjsligojones5101 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting.....but the Dodgers are still CHOKERS!
@goldeneve
@goldeneve 3 жыл бұрын
I’m from the future and the dodgers won it all
@cjsligojones5101
@cjsligojones5101 3 жыл бұрын
@@goldeneve Sure, when there's a 60 game season.
@xaviermiddlefinger2506
@xaviermiddlefinger2506 6 жыл бұрын
The picture at 10:20 that's elephant hill in the city of pomona/diamond bar ca look up elephant hill in pomona ca
@marikabakocs2832
@marikabakocs2832 4 жыл бұрын
Took away And wraked it
@wonglee2424
@wonglee2424 5 жыл бұрын
If it could be done all over again the best place for Dodger Stadium should have been on empty land near Chinatown or near City Hall but no they had to kick people out of their houses such a horrible part of Dodger history
@philipgregorymaingot7722
@philipgregorymaingot7722 2 жыл бұрын
The land was already taken with eminent domain way before the Dodgers showed up.
@lenexvdez
@lenexvdez 8 жыл бұрын
great show kcet. why did the animated portion at the end include the word "communist" tagged on the Elysian Park Hights sign ?
@PBSSoCal
@PBSSoCal 8 жыл бұрын
+TheyLive WeSleep Good question. At 18:37 we see the sign "Elysian Valley Heights New Public Housing" with a vulture on top. The words "Elysian Valley Heights" have been exed-out in red paint, and below it, obscuring the words "New Public Housing," is the word "Communist". To find the meaning of this we must look back to the initial plan from the City to replace the rural Mexican community in Chavez Ravine with a new public housing project. Letters were sent to the residents of Chavez Ravine informing them that their houses would be replaced by the project and occupied by low-income families. To the residents of Chavez Ravine, the public housing plan was a manifestation of communism. Aside from that in 1950's America, the term "communist" had a good deal of weight. It would maybe be compared to someone scrawling "Gentrifier" on one of the new condos going up in Silver Lake today. To note, this is the opinion of one moderator. To find out more about the impact of the housing project and the eventual displacement of the community of Chavez Ravine, check out this article: www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_focus/history/la-as-subject/history-of-chavez-ravine.html Hope that answered your question!
@charlesjwin
@charlesjwin 7 жыл бұрын
TheyLive WeSleep Because the local Real Estate Lobbies used the Red Menace of the time as a convenient excuse with which to counter Truman's initiatives of 1949 for housing the Public via Gov't, and thus sway opinion against these planned projects.
@merrillmilner8717
@merrillmilner8717 Жыл бұрын
I saw capitalism's dark side here. I feel for the residents who were displaced. Long ago, I played in a band called Conchita y sus Latinos. I was the lone white guy there. I learned about their lives and their feelings about those of my kind, which I didn't understand back then but I understand more now.
@arnulfogonzalez7476
@arnulfogonzalez7476 6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful park.
@georgem2118
@georgem2118 4 жыл бұрын
Why aren't they wearing white clothe gloves when handling the lithograph?! 🤔
@DanielMartinez-el3uz
@DanielMartinez-el3uz 3 жыл бұрын
Man that was a sad 😢 story just your typical elite player taking advantage of our people in the count that they think 🤔they can cause they’re bigger than us cause we’re brown 🇲🇽, but I can tell you one thing if I was the mayor of LA I would at least give the descendant families of Chavez Ravine free tickets 🎟 to Dodger stadium ⚾️ 🏟 along with front row seats 💺 and free snacks for every baseball ⚾️ season that comes and it would be valid for the next generation and the next , plus free Dodger souvenirs will also be included. Hay is the least anybody can do considering the fact that the people of Chavez Ravine been nothing but hard working Americans 🇺🇸 🇲🇽 just to be evicted out of their homes 🏡 unfairly
@mariposarios764
@mariposarios764 7 жыл бұрын
nice , my great grandmother and grandfather were from the Kizh Nation, my family lived where Whittier is today and their land of course was taken, they were placed in the mission of San Gabriel and went to Sherman Indian school. We are still here 💚💚
@dannyboyy6063
@dannyboyy6063 6 жыл бұрын
Mariposa Rios cutie
@fewtomany5901
@fewtomany5901 5 жыл бұрын
That is real nice to hear.
@joelfelix856
@joelfelix856 4 жыл бұрын
My grand father had 12 acres in that part of town we was threatened by the Mayer to sell or go to jail he would tell us I very little now we rent out 170 apartment units threw Los Angeles
@zmedina4068
@zmedina4068 5 жыл бұрын
I love my city Los Angeles 🌃🌆🌇❤💙
@evelardeortiz
@evelardeortiz 5 жыл бұрын
Why don't they mention the HISTORY before 1877? When it was Mexico. TELL THE TRUTH
@JoseAguirretenser
@JoseAguirretenser 5 жыл бұрын
You hear him say clearly that LA is no longer a western town but a place that decent white Americans can live... fucking crazy
@Gen3ralGrimReaper
@Gen3ralGrimReaper 5 жыл бұрын
Jose Aguirre Western is still European
@nickc247
@nickc247 5 жыл бұрын
Why not before Mexico, when it was only Native Americans? Because you can only go back so far
@nickc247
@nickc247 5 жыл бұрын
@@JoseAguirretenser they were talking about the Old West
@evelardeortiz
@evelardeortiz 5 жыл бұрын
@@nickc247 That's not the point
@christophermccarthy2948
@christophermccarthy2948 5 жыл бұрын
They didn't take all the hills down. my mom grew up in a house where you can see the top seats from her backyard. I'll never forget the lights at night. Go Dodgers!
@rashidahshakir2632
@rashidahshakir2632 Жыл бұрын
Yet the 710 and 210 interchange, which would have connected Pasadena to Long Beach, was shelved because residents did not want their neighborhoods disrupted. The power of the wealthy white voice!
@namenotphil
@namenotphil 5 жыл бұрын
Is it disgraceful to be a Dodger fan in 2019?
@DrunkenSlob
@DrunkenSlob 5 жыл бұрын
Shotgunner42 16 championships 5 in my lifetime
@raulalonso7470
@raulalonso7470 5 жыл бұрын
Why?
@aaronwilliams6989
@aaronwilliams6989 3 жыл бұрын
I don't blame you.
@goldeneve
@goldeneve 3 жыл бұрын
Blame McCarthy/Moses for ruined Chavez Ravine and Brooklyn not O’Malley.(McCarthy Paranoid and Moses no stadium in Brooklyn)
@luisllorens70
@luisllorens70 6 жыл бұрын
Why do they have to bring race into this? 4:40
@nekomatajs
@nekomatajs 5 жыл бұрын
That was the mentality of the people of that era.This was before the civil rights movement.There are people alive today with that same mentality ,some of whom actualy lived in those times.
@05EVORS
@05EVORS 5 жыл бұрын
people like sticking together nothing wrong w staying in your kinds hood, thats how it works in prison lol. Not racist its natural.
@Texicana_512
@Texicana_512 5 жыл бұрын
for history purpose.... can u understand that?
@bulkmailbullseye70
@bulkmailbullseye70 Жыл бұрын
Lost ability to walk to the cornfield ?!? I hope you’re not dreaming in the present tense
@stevemartin9949
@stevemartin9949 Жыл бұрын
This doesn't surprise me it's all about City planning even laws change all the time sometime for the good sometime for the bad 😞 I'm not a baseball fan but. I do feel for those families lost their homes when freeways were built in LA people lost their homes again.
@firstchoice7761
@firstchoice7761 3 жыл бұрын
So sad.
@raypavey1102
@raypavey1102 3 жыл бұрын
Another reason to hate the Dodgers GO BRAVES
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