KDE Plasma on Raspberry Pi. Black screen fix for latest Raspberry Pi OS Labwc update

[@silvergull]

WOW G'day Lee I've just ordered my RPI 5, and your KDE Desktop download, takes me back to my RPI 4 Twister OS (now with KDE Desktop)

[@benculwell8356]

Lee I am happy to report that Plasma Wayland was fixed. There was a wayland update on Discover that seemed to do the job

[@leepspvideo]

@@benculwell8356 that’s great news, I had another comment confirming this. Haven’t tried it yet. 👍🏻

[@droneworks6340]

So now we can let the updates go. I have been holding off on them

[@leepspvideo]

@ yes

[@richarda2906]

This update has made a massive improvement to GameCube emulation in Vulcan, worth a revisit.

[@guyhillyer9077]

I've been happily running plasma mobile on a raspad for the last six weeks, now this! It will teach me to make backups before upgrading. Sigh

[@guyhillyer9077]

I recovered by starting over with the July release of raspios. Would like to figure out a set of packages to pin, to avoid this problem but still get security updates.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

What do you want me to say here? Every Wayland option fails and the first X11 option you try works. In the words of American comedian Bill Engvall, "Here's your sign".

[@ricardocarrillogonzalez7049]

Have issues with labrc. I try to login and I get an incorrect password error. I switched it back to X11 and I was able to login with no issues.

[@52Pi_Maker_Education]

yes, I have got the update information about turn to labwc , it is nice and faster than before. I think.

[@yanoushkubica3174]

⚠️ plasma wayland works again since the last update

[@leepspvideo]

@@yanoushkubica3174 thanks for letting me know 👍🏻

[@droneworks6340]

What updates not to do and avoid running this X11 version wayland was faster and more stable. I'm going to use a backup and go back to wayland and not do any updates until this all gets fixed. My mouse now flashes and the screen glitches and seems like boot time is longer. On a RasPi5 8gb.

[@glitcher-ofc]

THE CURSOR FLASH IS THE MOST ANNOYING THING.

[@droneworks6340]

@@glitcher-ofc Yea I put up with that for 1 min and reinstalled my backup and refuse to do any updates until this is fixed. @leepspvideo what updates do we avoid?

[@alevans51]

interesting! Thanks!

[@theofficialgman]

KDE plasma uses it's own custom KWIN compositor. It can't use anything else (ie: mutter, wayfire, labwc)

[@CJGrass]

I wanted to share with you my latest discovery - for all Logitech K400+ keyboard users, I recommend the solaar software (manages receivers, keyboards etc...) I recommend.

[@samoylov1973]

Had to switch to Kubuntu on my Raspberry pi 5, because of that ... malfunction introduced to KDE by those who wrote official updates for Rpi. And you know what? It was a good move, because Kubuntu doesnt have limitations, that Raspbian KDE version has. All widgets are available, all updates run smoothly. And wayland works as expected. Still waiting for Manjaro release for Rpi 5 though. 😃

[@leepspvideo]

@@samoylov1973 I was thinking about an alternative but I’ve just been told Plasma Wayland is working again after the latest update

[@samoylov1973]

@@leepspvideo You are to try alternatives to make diverse and interesting content for your youtube channel 🙂

[@iam.jasonhoward]

💯

[@he98508]

"that's the Raspberry Pi OS (Desktop) - or something similar" Any idea how to get the standard Raspberry PI desktop (Raspberry in the top left /start of the menu)? I also found the only answer was Plasma (X11) but now I have a mouse pointer that flashes annoyingly whilst I am typing in both browser windows and LibreOffice docs.

[@Metal_TrashCan]

I'm using xrpd and KDE plasma isn't recognized. I can open the KDE settings and get a garbled screen. New problem for me to solve

[@DJDocsVideos]

It's fixed now.

[@leepspvideo]

@@DJDocsVideos yes, thanks. The latest update sorted it 👍🏻

[@chinesepopsongs00]

I always remote into my RPI with RDP, and that also has some troubles with different desktop protocols. O and before people start complaining why RDP, well because i can remote from machines that are not under my control meaning i cannot install software on it like my laptop from work. If you want to win souls you have to be compatible with some stuff from the other side. In my case that is RDP.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

What has any of that got to do with the video content? If you're looking for some kind of affirmation then Linux is entirely about doing things your way and if RDP works for you, why should anyone else care? Sure, as someone who has worked with Linux for 28 years now, I don't ever use RDP but I also don't have any Windows systems any more and RDP is very much linked to Windows anyway. I use SSH and VNC but those fit my workflow and if RDP fits your workflow, then great.

[@roanbrand7358]

Wonder if a fresh install of plasma on a new rpi OS would fix Plasma on wayland. Or a newer version of plasma? Or maybe there is something missing it requires from this new compositor?

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

I would give it another 10 years and they may finally fix wayland to a point where it's usable.

[@leepspvideo]

I did think it may work 👍🏻

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

@@leepspvideo Don't get me wrong here, it would have been interesting to see it work but I wasn't holding out any hope. Xorg came out in 2004 and it was a replacement for X11R6 as an Open Source and "backwards engineered" replacement - it took years for it to be a good and stable product. Wayland is a completely new protocol and it has to work with many types of drivers and desktops if it is ever to replace Xorg. It is being rushed out, mainly for the benefit of gamers who seem to incorrectly believe that it's the answer to them gaming on Linux and getting rid of Windows. That's a different conversation but it's in this constant "throw it out there and see if it works" mode, and the end result is it usually still doesn't work. So I am very cynical about Wayland for that reason..

[@elmonte5lim]

I'd made no headway, so I'm relieved to get a working system back. OTOH, 'the solution's in the problem', although someone who knew more than I, had to provide a fix. Anyroadup, thanks for that.

[@travisash8180]

This is not a fix, it is avoiding the issue.

[@elmonte5lim]

@@travisash8180 no, not a repair, but it got me out of the dudu. Better than a poke in the eye with a hot fagend.

[@pd9rd]

I got the update of the standard desktop and changed to labwc, it was an ordeal to say the least. Disappearing icons in the menu, Conky was in the middle of the screen and no way to change it no matter what I changed in the conky conf file. After the desktop frooze a few times I had enough. Installed a back-up I made first, did the update and stayed on Wayland.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

I've removed Conky from all of my machines now, it's a complete waste of resources, especially on lower-powered devices. You think it's not taking up many resources but when it's running scripts that check fan speeds, disk occupancy, CPU usage and temperature every few seconds, it is doing a lot more than you think. It's useless eye candy anyway and the machines I've removed it from instantly feel quite a bit snappier.

[@pd9rd]

@@terrydaktyllus1320 On my RPi 5 it's ok with the resources, with Brave as my standard browser watching YT in 1080p I never see the ram over 2GiB. So I think Conky doesn't hog up my resources. But, I will keep it off and see if there's any difference. Thanks!

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

@@pd9rd I only use Xorg anyway and I refuse to even consider Wayland until it is in a much better state than it is today. Maybe Wayland is the cause of your Conky problems, I don't know.

[@pd9rd]

@@terrydaktyllus1320 That might very well be. LabWC is for certain not in love with Conky. By the way, Conky uses 0.1% of my 8Gb RAM. So its not of real resource influence.

[@retrotourist]

@@terrydaktyllus1320 I removed Conky and the flickering pointer issue vanished from Plasma X11. Thank you!

[@markevs3360]

Ive got this OS on a pi 5. Its set to automatically login, so mine just boots to the frozen mouse cursor in the middle of the screen. Its installed on an ssd, so don't really want to rewrite it. Any idea how to change the boot option as you did or at least stop the autologin. If it can be done from command line etc i can boot from sd card and change the file

[@leepspvideo]

@@markevs3360 I think you may be able to choose x11 from sudo raspi-config

[@CJGrass]

At my place the sound was kicked out, is there any way to have sound in the system again?

[@leepspvideo]

@@CJGrass I haven’t experimented with it yet

[@CJGrass]

@@leepspvideo Thank you for your reply, I managed to solve the problem by switching from Pipewire to PulseAudio (in raspi-config / adv options / audio config)

[@themydnighthour]

Bought an Argon Neo 5. My Halloween was a miserable failure in a 2TB drive not working

[@leepspvideo]

@@themydnighthour compatibility issues? which NVMe drives work with a Raspberry Pi 5? kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZ64mImKd9J-n9E

[@themydnighthour]

@leepspvideo I think so. It's a WD Black 850X 2TB. Is it incompatible?

[@leepspvideo]

@@themydnighthour possibly I haven’t tested it. Best to stick to known working drives

[@themydnighthour]

@@leepspvideo I'm going to mess around with it on my next day off. Apparently, the pi installer was messing up Ubuntu. Let you know?

[@glitcher-ofc]

LEEP! I am facing probs with KDE X11. IT IS SUPER BUGGY NGL.

[@droneworks6340]

I went back to original and not updating... these updates sux

[@glitcher-ofc]

@@droneworks6340 YUP Its true

[@jim-xi1ml]

I like your videos I got a pi 4 and a pi 5 I have android 14 running on my pi 4 on a 7in touch screen I did the same thing with the pi 5 on my touch screen with android 14 put on my touch screen the screen just blanks out sometimes and the WiFi becomes very unstable do you know how to fix

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

If your screen is blanking out and wi-fi is unstable then my best guess would be a power issue - specifically, not enough power to drive the Pi, the screen and wi-fi at times of high load. You might need a more powerful power supply, or you might need to replace it if it's faulty. Check to see if the PSU gets very hot, that can be a sign of a failing power supply. Also disconnect the touchscreen and use the Pi with an externally powered monitor to see if that makes the wi-fi more stable. If it does, then it's almost certainly a power problem.

[@leepspvideo]

It’s not an issue I have had. Resolution is often problematic with Android. Try Konstakangs page for possible solutions

[@antonsaint8295]

Could be a case issue. Had something similar with my metal case - WiFi was barely working and the OS kept freezing until I disabled wifi. It is no secret, that metal cases have problems with wireless connections, but these lags was something new to me. Tested it on raspberry pi os and lineage os.

[@terrydaktyllus1320]

@@antonsaint8295 Excellent point, I hadn't considered interference from a metal case - one for me to "file away".