Keenan Allen on Lamar Jackson's extension, Is Justin Herbert a ‘social media' QB? | NFL | SPEAK

[@SpeakOnFS1]

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[@joester4251]

"If he gone, then im gone". Keenan saying that just shows how important Herbert is to the team and the fanbase and i absolutely love Keenan for that. i hope to god Allen retires a charger, hes been a blessing to us since we drafted him ⚡⚡⚡

[@lul2366]

yep basically.. Allen was always a beast reciver, i’m pretty sure brandon staley and The GMs would extend herbo contract very soon

[@brianlefler4246]

Better start winning

[@ericharden6832]

Chiefs fan here. But geez Keenan is soooooo underrated.

[@Chrism7178]

Hes just not a yac guy.

[@stonedstansmith]

Respect, glad you can see it. It’s hard to be a YAC guy when you’re not a burner

[@Chrism7178]

@@stonedstansmith yeah. Wegot J herbo. We need YAC badly.

[@amenbrother8818]

@@Chrism7178 Keenan is smooth, he runs routes like a pro and so smart. He fakes DB's out all the time. He was running down field like to go deep and catch a pass and the DB was chasing after him with Herbert following right behind the DB. It was hilarious! Keenan could see Herbert was taking off on the run and just kept baiting the DB into following him. Always great stuff.

[@glo2fr823]

I’m a chiefs fan and Keenan all has always been one of my favorites I was convinced Andy was going to make a play for him but it never happened

[@mhzprayer]

I like how KA brought it back to "what exactly did you mean talking about my QB.."

[@anthonyjackson6470]

One of my favorite players all time…He was with the Chargers since San Diego

[@justinmoore3028]

Him and bosa are the last two from the San Diego era 👑🔥🙏🏿👏🏿💯

[@nightbreed6]

@@justinmoore3028 isn’t that so scary bro? Like if we don’t win a ring with one of those two, it’s like the San Diego Chargers history will be erased forever

[@acb9896]

Wow.... That was like 3 cell phones ago. Feel old yet?

[@johnmurphy9523]

Ekler and Mike Williams were also from the San diego days

[@dandreray1602]

Good segment. Allen up there giving real convo n not that pre determined PR talk💪🏽

[@TheProHopper]

Keenan is real

[@adeanda92]

Have you seen Drue Tranquill podcast with Keenan 🔥

[@shonspencer8058]

Facts… I was sayin the same thing. It felt like I was listenin to my boys just chop it up and clown

[@Imagemike2]

2 things: -wins are not QB stats. -play calling is what is holding the chargers back. Being passive and not aggressive. That might mean running the ball more second half to set up play action but either way, coaches are getting paid millions it their job to figure out a way to be competitive late in games

[@jkehoe100]

Exactly. And if you listen to Keenan, exactly what he said. “You do you”. Philip Rivers didn’t let the coach decide games for him.

[@anthonychilds8193]

I think the Chargers weakness is their coaching. I listen to a lot of games and they start hot and then go silent and opposing teams routinely come back and make it close or, like they so candidly discuss, overtake Chargers late. The coaching seems to be great at opening play scripts and very bad at handling the opposing team's adjustments as well as mentally conditioning Chargers players to hold steady when it seems the game is slipping from their grasp. Coaching. Kellen Moore SHOULD be able to correct a lot of those dead zones in Chargers' offensive games.

[@yzfool6639]

You are right. I live in Atlanta. Last year, the Chargers were running the ball on 3rd and 4th and short against one of the worse secondaries in the entire NFL. Unfortunately, the Falcons forced them to pass to win the last 5 minutes, as they did against New England in the SB with a similarly bad secondary. Herbert didn't throw one incompletion during a drive where they only ran once run once (and fumbled) sothey won. Who scouted Atlanta?

[@21DBZ23]

BINGOOOOOOO

[@Aneurism_]

100% Keenan knows it too, Staley has killed and squandered away playoff opportunities two years in a row

[@anthonychilds8193]

@@Aneurism_ yeah I think he recognized it'd be a bad look if he blamed the coaching on camera.

[@Chrism7178]

OC

[@pacificbeatz5440]

Loved the interview. I like How Keenan checked em tho “what did you mean by that”.

[@anthonychilds8193]

That was a lot of fun. Thanks Team & Keenan.

[@nserekoraymond8593]

I love it when NFL and NBA players do analysis as guests. Players perspective is good.

[@rickpeterson8825]

Herbert is the reason we got the to the playoffs!!

[@Lonellefrom226]

This is by far the best take on this show because Acho wasn’t talking that much and just saying sh*t

[@MyTeamOnly_]

Keenan is quietly carving out a hall of fame career 3 or 4 more seasons of this and I think he’s in.

[@holpcs2]

This segment is 🔥🔥🔥

[@jeanfourcade]

Great segment. 2 players talking frankly to one another. Really refreshing. Honest, no bs. And very classy of Joy to remain quiet all the time, knowing how rare it is to have an active nfl star opening up so candidly. I guess she was a bit smitten too.

[@Gush27]

“Player” is a bit generous for Emmanuel

[@TheInterestedObserver]

her brother is a hall of famer, she's been around top players and people like Michael Jordan all her life. Smitten or star struck I really doubt it bro.

[@lujones9961]

Her brother was a greater player than all these guys I’d love to hear from her about any topic 🤣

[@MrMenace3210]

@@Gush27 That's why he was likely talking about Shady, he said 2...

[@jeanfourcade]

@@Gush27 Granted, he never was starter material. But he still made it to the NFL. In football terms, that still places him apart from us.

[@robbogart6266]

If you took Herbert's talent and Phillips brain, all time great QB

[@Chrism7178]

Herbert's IQ and decision making clears rivers. And i love Rivers

[@colinedelman6392]

Herbert is the only qb as good as Mahomes

[@acephas3]

@@colinedelman6392 Nope.

[@SycoticForeverNeverAF]

@@colinedelman6392 There is no current qb as good as mahomes. That discussion is over lol

[@robbogart6266]

@@Chrism7178 very good point. Brain is the wrong word. Philips Heart/leadership

[@Bobbeige]

This was dope! KA the man!

[@rickpeterson8825]

"Like when Phil was running the team , ain't nobody tellin' Phil nothin'" lol!

[@jrsands]

Joe Lombardi cost the Chargers that Jags Wildcard game. All 2022 season, 18 games, the Chargers scored a total of 45 pts in the 3rd quarter. That is a pathetic average of 2.5 pts per 3rd quarter. For an offensive coordinator to allow that to happen coming out at halftime throughout a season, including a playoff game, is firing fodder fo sho!

[@EZ68-y4k]

Joe Lombardi & Brandon Staley

[@TheFrostFilesPodcast]

@@EZ68-y4k and the trainers

[@adeanda92]

Best episode you guys have released

[@georgecarpio7155]

⚡💪KEENAN HAPPY BIRTHDAY MY BOY💪⚡ LET'S GO CHARGERS ⚡

[@lalexander7338]

4:27 Shady saying "bullsh*t" on live television 😂

[@edrew22]

Great job, Keenan.

[@Zetler]

Keenan was real in this interview.

[@xx-hs6co]

He's always real

[@kinzeltijamo7609]

did justin herbert not lead this team to the playoffs this year? lmao

[@MrEmmanuelmack]

Naw give him that same smoke they give Lamar

[@nightbreed6]

First Year: Wins rookie of the year, breaks multiple rookie records. “He can’t win games” 2nd Year: Achieves a winning record while breaking all passing record through the first 2 seasons. “Can’t make playoffs” 3rd year. Breaks more records and makes the playoffs. “Win a playoff game” 4 He’s gonna keep proving them wrong.

[@acb9896]

No, actually. This year hasnt started. Last year is whats called "history". YW

[@EverythingMustChange-e8j]

keenan top ten wr in the nfl big facts

[@JohnCasen]

Keenan!!!

[@mrblue___]

My second favorite WR 😂

[@pmcfarlin7]

This segment was too funny 😂😂😂

[@dominicray1673]

Chargers wasted this dude best days

[@thaarealdeal4349]

They wasted many players careers

[@BIGjeffSanDiego]

Yea, but lot of teams had great players and never got their ring. Chad 85 didn’t get one, TO, or Randy Moss didn’t get one either.

[@mikehatten5738]

Same with phil, gates and LT. Cursed organization they make good choices yet somehow always get shafted. Either injuries or bad luck like goat boy Brady haha

[@TheProHopper]

just like LT and Gates

[@giffondhall9214]

You mean herbert

[@Traww-ys1do]

Joy up there cheesing😬

[@DreWrld222]

Facts 🤣 keenan holdin that eye contact

[@BHG4LKalilDaeShon]

She's not star struck if that's what you're implying.

[@shelden286]

​@Kalil Dae'Shon Canada u obviously never had a girl flirt with u and it shows cause everyone should know what he means 🤣

[@jeanfourcade]

You noticed it, too? I never saw Joy so quiet with a big smile on her face for a whole segment 😉

[@Rich.as.in.spirit]

Them fools blew a historic playoff lead .

[@AP-WhatsUp]

Herbert won every game last season when Allen and Williams played the entire game

[@amenbrother8818]

In spite of having a OC that shouldn't even have been coaching in the XFL.

[@armandovega7479]

That’s B.S. he was saying Tua is better QB than Tua.

[@joshscharf4230]

Weird play calls and injuries

[@f3rnandoll]

“Tua led them to the playoffs” Who gonna tell him

[@southercalifas]

😂

[@BRYIAN5]

Simple answer: The NFL is hard bro.

[@pm21-v3h]

Didn’t acho only have like 33 tackles before retiring.. or 33 games played idk either way that don’t give him the right to talk about anyone lmao dude had the saddest career and talks like he a hof

[@samking2094]

My God, Philly already had a great roster, not only have they improved it ,but now Aaron Rodgers has gone to the Jets, when you look around the NFC Jalen Hurts is the only Elite QB in the entire conference. If Jalen Hurts stays healthy it's hard to bet against the Eagles winning the NFC again. Dallas Cowboys and San Fran 9ers gonna both have great rosters but their are big doubts over their QB's. People have finally realized what I've said all along, that Dak's not a top QB, imo Dak's around the same level as Kirk Cousins which is very average, he moves/runs better than Cousins but Cousins' is a better pocket passer. As for Purdy, he was really good for the 9ers when he came in but it was a small sample size and he wasn't asked to do anything amazing, and now there are question marks over his health, we don't even know if Purdy will be the starting QB or whether Trey Lance is gonna be the guy. It's just weird how all the top QB's have ended up in the AFC leaving the NFC wide open for someone to make a SB run, Tom Brady's probably looking at it thinking he could have a chance....I mean Jared Goff is quite literally top 5 in the NFC... Crazy, Crazy, Crazy!

[@stevendraper2613]

I've been a Charger fan since the Dan Fouts Era.. that came help me through my military enlistment's.. King's best I just love that guy.. and I love Justin.. it "Will Happen".. All the Challenges and Expectations Will Be.. ACHIEVED!!! I GUARANTEE YOU.. Money "Will Not" be an Obstacle.. when it comes to Justin... No matter what the Justin Hater that sits at that table continually repeats and Spews...

[@KJ-jh2gb]

My man KA13!!!

[@rsgomlftw]

u know Nick is regretting what he said about Keenan Allen now

[@RUTHLESSambition5]

Herbert doesn't win anything by year 3 and gets praise. Lamar gets MVP and in the playoffs by year 3 and got nothing but hate. It's diff rules for them

[@Noahdventure]

Lamar is 1-3 in the playoffs, I personally think it’s a toss up between herb and Lamar. They are the same tier

[@danjones7251]

Lamar can’t stay on the field and even when he’s on it he can’t compete with Herbert. Justin clears that boi lol

[@TheBrotherHoodSports]

​@@Noahdventure what's Herbert's playoff record?

[@James-jr8yo]

Different organizations too.

[@tbrauch2017]

Nobody is hated more than Tua!!

[@chefnoelA]

Acho need to start calling Ohtani and Trout social media players.

[@brandonmitchell6351]

Lol! I’m a chargers fan and an Angels fan. Long suffering for sure lol. But just like the Chargers with Herbert and Derwin James, Ohtani and Trout are plagued by a terrible ownership

[@oXthe__j0k3rXo87]

Lmfao Acho throwing shade at Marcus Smith

[@nserekoraymond8593]

I agree Devante Adams is great.

[@BrianLipphardt]

Keenan Allen rules I thought I could move him I can’t we ❤ 13. he’s here to stay.

[@all_blacktee]

For every excuse and accolade that y’all give Herbert……..27-7 at half and SCORELESS IN THE 4th IS INSANE!!!!!!😂😂😂😂

[@CalobAdamsInfamous913]

I’m mad nobody asked him about his tweet after the Tyreek Hill trade

[@52baldingindianjanitor72]

The Charger's ain't clinching the division if the Chiefs are there, and I can't see them clinching a Wild Card spot with how stacked the AFC is

[@tyronebettersofficial]

Well Gianis didn’t leave his team to go to the team that beat him. He stayed and worked harder. Got better. Is what it is

[@jamanwashington9478]

They gave him pieces he needed that's why 😂. For example, one of the pieces they brought in was all star dru holiday

[@tyronebettersofficial]

@@jamanwashington9478 so theybdid they job 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@williamarchie]

Chargers don't like to pay i hope Herbert all the best in his negotiations with these cheep scapes, he deserves it lets see if they pony up before they destroy him.

[@raijin8718]

Keenan, Mike, Bosa, Mack are all making 20 per year while JC and Derwin have lucrative contracts. The narrative that the Chargers are cheap is insane

[@mathewjones8886]

Don't worry, if they pay him based on achievement then he's in line to be about the 12th best paid QB in the league so it shouldn't be too costly.

[@marcuswade710]

Knowing sean peyton was available, the chargers should have fired brandon staley for sean peyton. That playoff L is unacceptable.

[@marcuswade710]

@Spacetrooper How? It doesn't go against the cap. It's straight out the owners pocket. And for Sean Peyton. That guy worth every cent.

[@thaiwatchdog]

Keenan my dog right there. Who came after 200+ yards game!

[@thecarolinanativejxann8450]

Vincent Jackson & Keenan Allen my favorite receiver in chargers history wish they played together. Asante & jammer would be nasty of defense together too 😢

[@communismisgarbage]

RIP Vincent Jackson 🙏

[@e-weenie5325]

Coaching. Bringing in Kellen Moore is going to help tremendously

[@BratatoChip]

One pre season game in, mooted scheme is already miles better

[@e-weenie5325]

@AaronAdamss yeah it looked good, not a lot of dink and dunk plays, lot of airing it out which in turn is gonna help the running game which had a great night

[@BratatoChip]

@@e-weenie5325 yeah and imagine it with our starters and starting o line. Dangerous man

[@snowhawk04]

AJ Brown said the same thing about Hurts. If Hurts is gone, Brown is gone.

[@BHG4LKalilDaeShon]

Okay, and?

[@snowhawk04]

@@BHG4LKalilDaeShon Are you deaf or dumb?

[@Jaypharoah06]

Because they CANNOT STAY ON THE FIELD ACHO. At the end of the season Justin Herbert is the only one on the field when it counts.

[@dretowns3291]

He was on the field when the jags came back 27 to 0

[@Chrism7178]

keenan didnt want to blame injuries nor his defense

[@harisselimovic1952]

At the 8 min mark he pretty much circled around “coaching”. Let Herbert be the man and have him override the coaches. Maybe the new offensive coordinator will utilize him better and they can stay healthy.

[@JewdahRize-me5or]

Acho talk ur talk Sir!!!

[@thunderbolts2438]

They lack a solid running game. Gotta get that special RB or FB to take the pressure of Ekeler. A home run threat (all year long!) at WR. They will be a force to be wreckin' with. 😀

[@ryancarver585]

Herbert is a great passer Lamar is not REALITY

[@BratatoChip]

Love Keenan , BTFU

[@hanspatmpouma1183]

Chargers are just the clippers of the NFL. Snakebiten franchise.

[@amenbrother8818]

The Washington Generals to the Harlem Globetrotters.

[@BillyRobisonsr-tu1dt]

Justin Herbert is the )east accomplished so I feel he should be get to the 40m to 50m range🏈💰

[@israelbaylon7964]

Herbert needs the confidence and the comes from coaching, lombardi showed no confidence in him to stretch the field. Staley loves herbert but he dont run offense

[@Ballardgeonte]

Acho putting up stats from a game from 12 years ago is hilarious

[@acb9896]

The ONLY way my Boltz make it to at least a wildcard is Kellen running the O 100% , ZERO interference from Lets Go Brandon, the family... And thats never gonna fly. 10-7 Yet another year of wasting J10's career.

[@websoup]

No 1 on underrated team 😅

[@nserekoraymond8593]

I like Mr Acho's take on Justin Herbert.

[@jjkraay1]

It’s the coach saleh and Staley got hired same time. La had a better record and better team compared to New York. the jets ended up with a better defense but if you look at the names on each defense everyone picks the chargers. Imagine Herbert on the Jets last year. Which team would of had a better record?? It’s the coaching if Salah was coaching the chargers with all those weapons on defense, they would’ve went farther guaranteed. They could’ve got Sean Payton but they let him go this year. Guaranteed. They are going to be third in the division and going to fire Staley typical chargers.

[@amenbrother8818]

It comes down to team ownership. The Spanos family is fine cashing those NFL TV checks. No driving motivation to win the SB. Always waiting for next year with the Chargers.

[@martinwalker4320]

Why hasn’t anybody ever asked him who was getting exposed when the Chiefs traded Tyreek Hill??

[@davidtorres1696]

To Allen's comment he said the offense failed I disagree D fence fell apart completely and the coaching was also garbage 👎

[@mrgvb4]

Respectfully, Joy is a joy to watch, always running up the score

[@iceice021]

She carries this show fr

[@dannewth7149]

The chargers need to stay healthy.

[@tosman000gtrendy3]

Can someone please me what Justin Herbert has done to give him the right to be mentioned in the same breath as Lamar Jackson

[@Joe_Kondeez]

Whos the better qb? Lamar or Justin?

[@Otto-W]

History says QB that run win more games but pocket passers will more Superbowls.

[@Joe_Kondeez]

@@Otto-W that's 100% true. Mahomes will break that.

[@Otto-W]

@@Joe_Kondeez Mahomes runs when he has to and when a game is on the line. He's not really a running QB like Vick, Moon, or Allen. That part of what makes him dangerous, he gets out of the pocket and throws on the run as well as anyone has ever then boom he's gone for a long run when it matters most.

[@huckstaunfiltered8200]

Keenan should have told these fools, "hopefully we (the Chargers) win a SB, before y'all win a Sports show award..!!!

[@urbanlinksportsent.9953]

This Roster has no excuse,It's always coaching with LA always coaches or owners getting in the way.😮A bad Kicker is still coaching.

[@Chrism7178]

our roster overrated

[@rossedwardmiller]

"the fanbase gets involved" Joy, we're the reason the team exists. We're the *MARKET*

[@SycoticForeverNeverAF]

lmao no you arent. The owners are the market. Always has been always will be

[@FarewellFix]

Dumbest thing I've read. No fans means no NFL dipshit.

[@pm21-v3h]

@@SycoticForeverNeverAF you think they’d be a market without the fans watching ??? How would the revenue come in ?

[@chargerboy411]

​@SycoticForeverNeverAF without fans there is no teams

[@eucariomendez9376]

Happy birthday my brother jena

[@brady21peterson]

Allen is classy

[@thomasgentry6201]

Thing with Hurbert not Black like Lamar if so every talking head in sports say no big deal loses in playoffs.

[@Z1ldjian2785]

Everyone knows why you take umbrage with Herbert. Own your thoughts, you hating because he's so good and the wrong....

[@brianlefler4246]

I can't stand listening to Ocho

[@brianlefler4246]

How does he even have a job. JH hasn't done anything but they dog LG8 out.

[@seancuffie]

How did nobody even mention deebo. The disrespect

[@sirhoopalot1125]

This the same guy who was supposed to win the afc west right? Allen said some people would be exposed without Hill right? Riiiiight

[@aboveSubparBallAnalysis]

Patriots winning draft tn

[@sirhoopalot1125]

@@aboveSubparBallAnalysis I hope so, if anyone competes with the Chiefs it’s Bill B

[@truth2219]

@@sirhoopalot1125 insert Howie Roseman

[@BHKGames0]

@@aboveSubparBallAnalysis still the 4th best team in the division

[@SycoticForeverNeverAF]

@@sirhoopalot1125 The patriots haven competed with the chiefs as a serious squad since 2019 lmao. They are a roudbump for kc at this point

[@chargerboy411]

Watch herbert be on some tom brady mentality and take a paycut

[@isaacchavarria5636]

Wtf is a "social media QB"

[@dannewth7149]

That fool talk show host has been hating on Justin Herbert since before he was drafted.

[@iceice021]

I think Joy’s into Keenan 😅

[@mcronn1002]

I still can’t believe that Herbert/Keenan blew a 27/3 halftime lead to the Jaguars 🐆. In the playoffs 😢 some people wonder 💭 is the NFL is deceiving people. Because of the point spread and gambling. Because imagine all the money 💴 chargers fans including me lost on that game?

[@teddyknight25]

We need a Better head coach

[@chargersina]

Acho is lying he said social media quarterback, before they play the dolphins way before the playoffs.

[@officialkoolwag5996]

Joy. My goodness

[@scottmoll1813]

What do y’all need to do? Stay healthy

[@saucedohector110]

Social media QB what an asinine quote….typical Acho take

[@140acresretired7]

When a player say's a agent does not do much had a shity agent. Had he had a good agent he would of got out of Baltimore like he wanted. He got stuck and Baltimore got stuck with him. Because of that injury bug, I think he will be a bust. 31 teams passed on him.

[@Am20044]

Goofballs like you don’t deserve to have opinions🤡

[@sflxn]

Defensive minded head coach is their problem.

[@amenbrother8818]

Staley was touted by the LA media as a "Defensive Genius," he had peak Aaron Donald. Donald would have had me looking like a defensive genius.

[@justinclement9691]

Everyone is questioning what went wrong. It was the offensive coordinator. I’d trust a blind monkey to draw up better plays then joe Lombardi.