Keenan Cornelius Comes Out of The Closet For His Final Media Appearance After Being Cancelled

Merch out now! bteamjj.shop | Once loved by reddit, now exiled. Fritzdagger & Johnbelushismom are putting their Karma points together to piss off the internet one last time. We went all the way to Legion in San Diego to sit with the greatest American Jiu Jitsu grappler of all time, Keenan Cornelius, to talk about his hiatus from the spotlight, getting raided by SWAT, Jiu Jitsu cults & conspiracies & much more! If you're reading this make sure you link it to reddit & while you're at it hit the download button so you can stay up to date on the Matburn podcast.... I mean the El Segundo Podcast.
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
03:59 AJ podcast
09:51 Getting cancelled by Reddit
17:24 Stealing Jokes
19:49 Flograppling
27:04 Jiu Jitsu Hiatus
33:30 Eskimo Bros
36:22 New rankings?
38:46 Biggest cult leader in BJJ
47:00 Getting raided by SWAT
51:02 Getting in trouble with the cops
55:23 TLI: The Movie
56:49 The importance of Blue Belts
59:28 Cults & Conspiracies
01:08:28 The never ending match
01:13:39 Stealing moves
01:20:28 Bad questions
01:23:21 Training with Nicky Rod
01:28:14 Keenan's final question
01:29:39 Outro
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[@bodhitree33]

This needs to be a regular podcast.

[@paba1042]

Great chemistry

[@Vscustomprinting]

na, every few months would be fine

[@Njfwn1017]

Keenan was a great guest. By far the most interesting episode of the podcast IMO.

[@foopsbjj9020]

Great take - been some great guests but Keenan killed it

[@Theo-dj7vs]

Fact

[@fatguyonthc]

It’s almost like he had a really great podcast that he abruptly abandoned

[@BlessThisPain]

Agree super smart guy

[@JoeHeine]

@@fatguyonthc lol

[@deanboman]

They complement each other so well, this should really be a recurring thing.

[@paba1042]

Yeah they don’t talk over each other but contribute to the conversation so well.

[@zackst-onge255]

ya I agree, the first mat burn minus Hinger was wicked

[@user-yq6vv7ef9n]

Nah they would run out of shit to talk real fast

[@maughty2591]

This is my opinion now too (15:12)

[@mrolliepoper]

craig and chlamydia?

[@statictech7]

KEENAN for the love of god. Get juiced out of your face and take down Gordon. Your final gift to the grappling community. You are the chosen one!

[@huskar1983]

Yeh we need keenan on the juice. This would be the ultimate experiment.

[@keanenfulton4696]

Gordon is just better dude. Period.

[@mdiebold85]

Yeah, there’s nothing helping him lol. The skill gap is too exponential.

[@130BJJ]

keenan was my favorite, really different style of teaching and showing concepts in his hey day. Passing a miyao guard too! Juice now, win trials, juice a lot by 2026 and get gordie

[@mdiebold85]

@@130BJJ he’s not good enough. I don’t think you quite understand the disparity.

[@ItsMeBenn]

Keenan and Craig needs to make this a regular thing. Their personalities are extremely complimentary.

[@lobsterairsoft499]

Can’t wait for the only fans collab

[@BarefootBrothersDrive]

@@lobsterairsoft499 keenan is hot

[@braidonutley8938]

This was legitimately one of the best all-around podcasts I've listened to in a long time. I wish this was a semi regular thing..

[@mindfulstoic3095]

By far best duo in a Jiujitsu podcast ever. You guys need a regular collab together.

[@rgsunderground]

Keenan and Craig have a perfect chemistry, able to riff off each other and go toe to toe with jokes and questions. It's also such a treat to see Keenan in his element again! Please do consider making this a regular thing! Podcast

[@michelfosho]

Great conversation. Keenan is a legend for sure

[@davidliddick2069]

Love that Keenan is talking about how shit giving seminars is, meanwhile Craig is there to literally do a seminar at Legion for Keenan. Love the honesty!

[@squidguard1]

Even attending seminars after a while gets boring, I’ve been to seminars taught by some of the best guys and never learnt anything too crazy or that which blew my mind. Most bjj is out there and easily accessible to everyone. I much rather would pay a high level guy and roll with him and his students for an hour then do the traditional 3 techniques and pictures then go home

[@thatmountain]

One thing I miss is Keenan's podcast. I don't miss Josh on the podcast but I think Keenan had a lot to say. He probably still does and he could do a solo podcast. I imagined if he had the time or desire.

[@chocolatitomaravilla3899]

Josh was absolutely awful so lame and feminine

[@booglog]

i think hes doing quite well with his school, jiu jitsu prices in san diego are crazy high now

[@ajsdaddy31]

Hinger was so irritating on the podcast.

[@mando3651]

​@@ajsdaddy31Hinger is a tremendous competitor but boy is he a douche bag.

[@squidguard1]

Keenan is one of the best jiu jitsu guys ever, new guys don’t even know him but just look at his record and who he has beaten. Braulio, Murilo, Leandro Lo, Kaynan Duarte, Craig Jones lol and many more, even gave guys like Buchecha and Rodolfo tough matches

[@natefenton9360]

One of the best podcasts so far! I love Keenan and you two are great together! Please do another with him soon. Also, we would love longer podcasts if you're willing or able. ❤🙏

[@grapplingwithjiujitsu]

So many standout moments from Keenan. Hyped for this one!

[@Jono793]

Full Circle! I remember first hearing Craig Jones on the matburn podcast, years ago. He's been my second favourite grappler ever since! 🥈

[@user-hu2ue6uy9f]

This is the most informative podcast I’ve heard on bjj for a while

[@streamofmemes4606]

Could listen to these 2 do a podcast every day.

[@chrisknight463]

This was an excellent episode. So much valuable commentary. You should do a part 2.

[@omann725]

Their assessment of Nicky Rod killed me. 😂

[@donovanb9020]

The "shaved bear" and "unbridled fury" bits got me 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@vstar9553]

I like how Graig has just confirmed that John Danaher pretty much simply teaches MARCELO GARCIA’S GAME. I totally agree with him. Marcelo back in the day was so far ahead of everyone and John was very smart to notice and catch onto Marcelo’s game. Well noticed and recognized!

[@robirhodes7411]

Craig is absolutely the man and Keenan is one of the coolest ever do it

[@Dhobby517]

Great timing. Just listened to Craig’s episode on the Matburn Podcast again recently. Looking forward to this one

[@alexandross3557]

the best podcast so far! great stories, flow and chemistry. BTW Keenan is so articulate, smart and good conversationist that you guys should upgrade to a joint podcast from now on!!

[@jeremiahtalley1936]

Super happy you did this one. 👏🏽

[@a.caguax78]

Gonna need yall to schedule another one of these. great job.

[@danielsiriphongs]

That was a fun episode. Great to hear from Keenan. Please have him on again!

[@Torymorgan9]

I always feel smarter after listening to Keenan. Great guest. Wish you guys did a regular podcast together.

[@BlockheadJiujitsu]

Two of the realest, chill dudes in jiu jitsu. So nice to have a good podcast for the sport

[@JR-bw3tr]

thanks Jones , its good to see KC , you both need to do this a few times a year , good content

[@oldmanjiujitsu6378]

Definitely need to get these two together weekly in a better studio setting. Great dialogue. Right amount of humor mixed with substantive observations. I'd totally watch these two regularly.

[@stoob808]

Saint Keenis, it twas a pleasure to hear your voice again. The brotherhood of the worm has waited many moons.

[@froggy3496]

Keenan is one of the best in and out of the mats. Big fan of fritzdagger, he'll never be truly canceled

[@workstudy8118]

This is the best episode yet. I’d listen to these two every week

[@retyrasteria]

Need Matburn 2.0 with Miha.

[@user-hh2qf5po1w]

The OG of jiujitsu know Keenan. But the real question is, does Jay Rod know Keenan?

[@HarietDubman]

Good for Keenan man. Miss having him around the scene but glad to see he’s killing it

[@bigmule7200]

Best guest so far, I wish we could see this combo more. Imagine Craig/Keenan on commentary for ADCC or flomatches. would be insane

[@xtoxicxsanity]

Best pod by far!! Hope it becomes a regular occurrence.

[@matthoward4237]

great podcast, would love to hear more of these two together, great listen

[@andrew-11]

I'll never forget that keenan added me on league of legends. that was one of the highlights of my own reddit career. i did not even know keenan got 'cancelled' we're still out here gangsta

[@Kapauhawaii]

You two are hilarious and I’m just sitting here wondering why I’m watching two phenomenal jujitsu people talk lol, you’re wonderful people and inspirations to a lot of people! Great show! So can we do this again but like half as long of a conversation, and then segue into some grappling with you guys showing some of your skills on the mat. PS colloidal silver can beat conjunctivitis in one or two applications, usually spraying or putting drops in your right in your eye, and it’s only water with charged silver nano particles in it🤙🏽oss

[@africanzungu7350]

Best episode of the cast so far. Hope we get some more of these two beautiful princesses

[@SHERMA.]

was nice for you to have a guest you actually bounce off your humour only makes keenan giggle 1/15 times but i admire your perseverance Craig keenan kept bringing it back to topic after you bombed a joke too which was great

[@DanielIvan707]

If these guys joined forces this would be one the biggest podcasts around. Great job.

[@DSVN23]

Didn’t know too much about Keenan but definitely a fan now! Hope he’s a regular guest

[@user-gz1nw3mc7y]

Straight up. Excellent. I should have gone to work an hour ago.

[@erbb4s]

Thanks for the knowledge, along with the entertainment great stuff !

[@tricyclemishap]

Josh Hinger is fuming and seeing red after this episode

[@therhythmatic]

I really like both these guys and even more so when they’re together. Great content guys!

[@66loom]

I really liked this episode. Wish it was longer!

[@Rubber_guardian]

Two OGs of the game! Keenan needs to bring back the mat burn podcast

[@AlienWebguy]

I’m proud that I watched this entire episode. So great.

[@travisoutten9379]

Training with all these killers at TLI was the highlight of my early jiu jitsu despite the drama and swat teams. After being murdered continuously round after round, we would get demoted to lesser training circles. "You, go over there and fight Sarge" (Sijara, who was mincing up all the comp white belts).

[@fkmygodgtfuo]

Man this was the best podcast episode yet (and I loved most of the other ones!). Much love for Keenan, he was one of the most inspiring figures in the sport when I was coming up, even for Brazilians like me. His rivalry with the Miyaos was great at the time!

[@fkmygodgtfuo]

Btw, Keenan, Reddit as not turned against you! (or Craig) Its mostly just some vocal r*tards

[@CarlosSelva]

Bem, não sei se algum Brasileiro além de mim teve paciência de ouvir esse podcast mas cara, adorei de verdade. Keenan é um dos maiores competidores e mais ágeis que vi lutar. Via muito as lutas dele no antigo canal Budo Videos (antes da Flograppling se meter e monopolizar as transmissões) e era sensacional. Parabéns pela conversa. De qualidade. Oss

[@echols2010]

Legion open mat is insane, if your in the area you should definitely go !!

[@JediBrysco]

Two of my favourites to ever do it. Legendary

[@Sikalafo82]

Glad you didn't take the shot Keenan, stay strong. Love watching your old bjj videos : )

[@nickporter7971]

This is by far the best episode of the podcast so far!

[@Appljuicing]

“I know a couple of brothers like that as well” Righto mate hahahaha so good

[@CarlosCasanova9]

if these two started a podcast together id subscribe so fucking fast lol

[@guiledoug]

Brilliant episode. Missed hearing Keenan's rants online!

[@oscarcruz7065]

Love Keenan. His ability to articulate jiujitsu is like no other.

[@zanoningira1083]

Really enjoyed listening to this podcast, Keenan is a real smart guy.

[@user-gx8td1ud7z]

Damn I did listen all this in one shot. Brilliant conversation

[@msbakergermany]

Best interview so far!

[@bgd5017]

Awesome seeing you Keenan! Hell yeah.

[@patradoid]

Keenan is intelligent man. Great podcast. I was going to listen to just one quick minute and had to stay for entire video. Props

[@drsssssssss]

Craig...beating Tye as a child, will always hold that victory :D

[@samurai74785]

I respect when Keenan states he's not sure or doesn't know sometging rather than state it as fact

[@daltontyndall]

My old coach took me to one of the mma millionare events in orlando. It was very much like keenan described. We sat in this convention hall in a big hotel and he would have testimonial after testimonial with people in his network, avallon brothers, Nak from beta ect. tell about how much money they were making with this method. At the end of the pitches he would have ring girls come around and pass out sheets to fill out you cc info to buy the products. Also used the normally sells for 1200$ if you buy it right now you can get it for 997$. Cant tell you how many dvd's my instructor bought but it was alot. Everything from kids programs, afterschool programs, how to be a gym manager, how to structure contracts.

[@sentfromdaniel]

Honestly, Seeing Keenan back on a podcast reminds me how much I enjoyed matburn podcast when they first had Craig on. Was a fun show

[@JamesKarren]

One of the best fight promo videos was Keenan vs Xande and the KZbin trash talk, lol

[@justin8865]

You guys gotta do a episode 2, this episode is fuckin hilarious.

[@Lazer_steak]

Keenans submission using two lapel grips, in full guard, and just driving the blade of your foot into the person's neck is still on of the goat subs i try and use in my everyday life

[@chetfreeland1920]

Good to see Keenan back

[@MMAneuver]

My favourite fritzdagger post was the one about Keenan training with the Miyaos...good god that made me laugh!

[@le_marginal]

The best episode so far!

[@cognitivedissonancecamp6326]

I actually felt excited when Keenan was talking about the ELO ranking for grapplers and just let the street cred work loosely into the fighters putting their own money up for their matches. I think too that there should be two separate rankings for grapplers - one for skill and proficiency and consistency and one for straight entertainer and showman.

[@Lockdown335]

I guess the problem is ELO applying to different rule sets such as spamming IBJJF No GI comps vs spamming ADCC opens, Both are No GI but they are pretty different in both rules and who competes

[@cognitivedissonancecamp6326]

@@Lockdown335 You and I both know judges and point based systems are for white through blue belts, and doesn't apply well to high level grappling. The ranking system would have to fundamentalize what a ELO-ranked BJJ match is in terms of time limit and what a draw means for ranking, since there will inevitably be matches where nobody gets a submission. I personally don't feel like OT-style matches make much sense, they incentivize tiring your opponent out in hopes of having a chance to win in OT where the stakes are higher.

[@cognitivedissonancecamp6326]

@@Lockdown335 You and I both know judges and point based systems are for white through blue belts, and doesn't apply well to high level grappling. The ranking system would have to fundamentalize what a ELO-ranked BJJ match is in terms of time limit and what a draw means for ranking, since there will inevitably be matches where nobody gets a submission. I personally don't feel like OT-style matches make much sense, they incentivize tiring your opponent out in hopes of having a chance to win in OT where the stakes are higher.

[@robirhodes7411]

And I take offense to the fact that a blue belt would not know who Keenan is the man is an absolute American legend

[@trueinviso1]

He said "They all quit, you know who you are", 😬 🖐

[@tylershapiro2964]

This was a great podcast again . Laughing out loud many times XD Keenan the goat !!

[@psytron939]

I remember the TLI days, when they that had sub only events that the who's who of upcoming grapplers were in. Super fun to watch, but the cultish ways and wild crazy shit TLI were involved with was nuts. Fun to hear more stories about that time.

[@RyanYounker]

Good to see you Keenan. Congratulations on keeping Craig on the other side of the couch for 90 minutes. Can we get some JiuJitsu love in Kansas City, please & thank you?

[@aaronreilly7040]

Best episode ever, can’t wait till next time Keenan has you on mate

[@rpsenju1418]

*Honarable mention* Kennan faced Gordon Ryan at his original weight. And was arguably the start of Gordon's Reign.

[@robbie31580]

More episodes with you guys! Keenan and Craig have great chemistry

[@joshuawood5300]

This is becoming my favorite podcast

[@overyourbed666]

Helluva pod. Love this one and the one with kit dale is 🔥

[@brendaneaglen8164]

The comments are unanimous; we absolutely need to have this man on again.

[@mmomus5863]

What a great episode. Interesting guy. You should have him on more.

[@josephotoole4387]

Best podcast episode all year. You Keenan needs to move to Texas and make this a weekly thing. 😂

[@jakenussbaum7680]

One of the best podcasts I’ve ever listened to. I’d love to hear a deeper dive into the sex cult of Irvin and more of what Keenan was saying about dds being an even worse cult

[@emceesupremejustice]

man I forgot what a huge Keenan fan I used to be this was awesome

[@kaibe5241]

Can see why these guys are mates, they're so on the same level it's ridiculous. The deadpan and sarcasm is on another level. lmfao

[@NGEternal]

Dude. This is a GOAT-tier podcast ep.

[@87mjung]

The elo rating system would be great for jiujitsu.

[@benschneider8980]

"Let me tell you little about this guy..." (adjusts mic and sits back) .... HAHAH

[@Defjitzu]

I miss Keenan podcasting. This is a great one!

[@MGJJ123]

I’m not entirely convinced that everything said in this podcast wasn’t satire. I loved every minute of it.