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[@jayshartzer844]

When Oracle says you are being too greedy you know you need to reevaluate your life choices. Still. Pot, kettle, yada yada yada

[@ea_naseer]

The kettle wants the pot to become a smaller kettle... the last sentence of pull from us felt like "in the future we would charge you once you are locked in".

[@JeffScott-1978]

Oracle never accused IBM of being greedy over this. They simply believe RHEL should remain open. So do I. It was IBM who made it about money by saying that they must pay the developers despite the fact that prior to IBM acquiring RHEL the developers were paid and RHEL was open. So the whole greed and money thing lies with IBM.

[@JediOfTheRepublic]

@@JeffScott-1978 "So the whole greed and money thing lies with IBM." No it doesn't. Oracle just wants to steal customers so they can charge them later for things. It's a greedy company calling out a greedy company. Also even though you may think it should remain open it's not up to you.

[@MrLT-vf3wr]

This is RICH from Oracle. Hey Oracle...'member when you "acquired" Sun Microsystems essentially buying "Java", then SUED Google cause they had implemented "Java API's" in their mobile OS (Android) WHEN IT WAS CONSIDERED FREE-USE prior to the acquisition!!!!!! Holy Irony Batman.

[@ciano5475]

And closed Solaris

[@0xCAFEF00D]

0:25 Another awful thing oracle did which I think people shouldn't forget is when they sued Google for copying their api structure. Had they won you might not be allowed to put math functions in whatever hierarchy you prefer.

[@LionKing-qp1lk]

That was good because google is evil

[@szymonbaranowski8184]

thanks God US law is only US law 😂

[@bobbybaker8868]

This is so funny coming from the company that single handedly f!@# the entire industry when they messed with Java licensing scheme.

[@complexity5545]

I can't say it any better than that.

[@_ranko]

I think the only reason Oracle is doing this is because they can't say Oracle Linux is RHEL compatible anymore

[@ThePrimeTimeagen]

agreed

[@DMSBrian24]

of course, but that's still good, if there's anyone able to sue ibm/redhat for this gpl violation, it's oracle

[@SharpBritannia]

​@@DMSBrian24It's not a violation. They will provide source to their paid customers who get the binaries

[@bultvidxxxix9973]

@@SharpBritannia The (probably, maybe) violation is that these customers can't execute their rights from the GPL licences without losing their customer status.

[@SharpBritannia]

@@bultvidxxxix9973 It's not. Even if it was, RedHat could just leave that out of the contract and tell the customers that they won't be renewing their contract if they did leak the source, off the records.

[@leroyjenkins6347]

This is very ironic given their licensing over their jdk

[@hypergraphic]

Too funny. I get the impression that Oracle is the kind of company that will take high value clients out to strippers and steak to close a deal.

[@jeffreyjoshuarollin9554]

That sounds rather time compared to the other stuff they've done - and I'm not even talking about the (alleged) murder.

[@Milky____]

@@jeffreyjoshuarollin9554 ya that does sound pretty tame compared to murder wtf xD

[@griffadev]

I worked at IBM during the time they bought Redhat, the overnight, thou shall switch your Ubuntu/other containers over to RHEL immediately. They disallowed non Redhat distributions of Linux too for workstations and also we had to spend a year migrating all the Kubernetes services over to Redhat container platform Oh and our new product that we had to do this to had few features and zero customers, wild

[@dejfcold]

When IBM bought RH I was working for a company subcontracting for IBM. We still used Aix and Informix on all servers. Then I went to work at Oracle and Fedora was the only allowed desktop Linux and Oracle Linux (we were using 7, but 8 was already out at the time, so not so long ago) was on the servers. Just corporate things.

[@nicolaspace1182]

podman? How did that go over?

[@r_j_p_]

Aka Eat your own dog food?

[@CamembertDave]

@@r_j_p_ There's a difference between eating your own dog food and forcing your family to eat nothing but your own dog food.

[@bobanmilisavljevic7857]

So you're saying learn redhat if you want to work with IBM? Thanks boss 💪

[@dejfcold]

I was working in Oracle... they repackage EVERYTHING. I even think even their OCI (Oracle cloud infrastructure, not open container initiative) is just openshift with extra steps. Even their web is in react... they call it Oracle JET. Btw i kinda think repackaging RHEL is easier for Oracle than others. They still do it manually a lot of times while Rocky and Alma are mostly automated.

[@piranhaofserengheti4878]

You either never worked for Oracle or have no idea what Openshift is.

[@LuckyTripleSmile]

Wasn't it that genius Tom, who works at Oracle, who made Linux capable for Oracle customers and all users?

[@Dux2Dust]

JDSL init system is the best

[@dmytrk]

​@@Dux2DustOracle JSUS

[@blakesmith4070]

The "lawnmower" reference is from an epic Bryan Cantrill rant that he gave about Oracle when it acquired Sun and killed OpenSolaris. The whole talk is great, but the amazing rant about Oracle starts here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6u1f2qOgaiFnsU

[@stacklysm]

Oracle was, is, and will always be just as greedy and hostile to OSS as IBM/Red Hat. But I have to agree, this is the BEST software drama article I've ever read, I have to give them credit for that. Also, the whole HackerNews section was just perfection

[@gappergob6169]

Dude saying as if software engineers work for free.

[@caron27]

Greedy and hostile? Red Hat is one of the top contributors to OSS. What has Oracle actually done? Bought some OSS projects and tried to take Red Hat's revenue away while profiting from their developers' work? Not to mention the Google lawsuits over Java.

[@stacklysm]

Addressing you guys' comments: I am fully aware that the work both companies put into kernel contributions/extended support surpasses expectations, I'm just pointing the hypocrisy from Oracle (for doing the same thing the RHEL team did) and Red Hat (for violating GPLv2), their level of engagement with Linux is not an excuse. If their goal is to pay the software engineers fairly, they shouldn't have went for Linux in the first place, don't get me wrong tho, a worker deserves his salary, but that's why we have the *Proprietary/closed source models*, and why devs earn as much as they do on FAANG(-like) companies. Red Hat can charge as much as they see fit for the extended support, but they're legally obliged by the GPL to release the source code, free of any restrictions. The reason Linux set itself apart was it's uncompromissing goal of offering true freedom in the software world. Back then, when tech companies started to wrestle in court and media to get the most market share, Linux guaranteed the future of the IT world as it exists today. In summary: Anyone can contribute to Linux (and any FOSS project on that matter), just don't expect anything back. If that's your goal, it's better to spend your time and resources elsewhere, it'll be more profitable. Contributing was never a precedent or an entitlement to financial compensation. Also, sorry for my bad English, not my first language. Also, also, I appreciate being able to enjoy the fruits of my labour, this is why my next projects will be closed source/monetized, I'm not an idealist, nor a software freedom evangelist, I'm just stating the situation and context surrounding the drama.

[@mx338]

Red Hat has a lot more products than just RHEL but tech company valuations are totally divorced from reality anyways.

[@ea_naseer]

💯 most of these valuations are future projections or stuff I have read in books under the tagline of "... people do these to pour sand in your eyes".

[@purpledaddy6077]

Love the immediate statement on how oracle corporate dunks on people for merely using the JS name.

[@nosbig98]

Red Hat has far more than just RHEL. RHEL is the most visible project, but they have tools like Ansible (FLOSS) with Ansible Tower (Commercial Open Source), OpenShift as a containerization platform, Ceph distributed storage, and the sleeper project of JBoss. That's what IBM was really paying for.

[@matthewstott3493]

When Oracle acquired Sun Microsystems, they rapidly closed OpenSolaris. Fortunately, the free and open source community saw the writing on the wall and quickly forked the code. Also, all the Sun top PhD / Engineers and other top-talent who built ZFS, Dtrace, etc., etc., etc. jumped ship. So far Oracle is keeping their Linux distribution open source. But perhaps that's because nobody is using it to the same level as RHEL. Oracle is just kicking their competitor while he's down.

[@kinkajou2310]

A light but menacing kick

[@astral6749]

I can't believe Edward Screven, Chief Corporate Architect and Wim Coekaerts, Head of Oracle Linux Development wrote this and got it published on Oracle's official website given how snarky it is. It doesn't sound like the typical corporate speak that I was expecting to come out of Oracle.

[@rostcraft]

Oracle is goat of trolling

[@ShadowKestrel]

Similar to the Rust Trademark Shenanigans, Oracle yet again prove themselves as the perfect frame of reference to know you've crossed the line

[@catcatcatcatcatcatcatcatcatca]

The fact this is so savage and still lands - while being written by Oracle sums the cituation perfectly. If Oracle can successfully dunk on you, maybe just resign as a CEO. IBM bought something that only has value because it can’t, for large parts if it, be monetised, for price of it’s true use value. It’s like trying to make money selling USB-spec. Hardware manufacturers would either find a new open standard, or develop their own proprietary one. USB is worthless without the U. RHEL is worthless without the L

[@jeffreyjoshuarollin9554]

You may be too young to remember, but IBM have done this before: the PS/2 (Personal System/2, not PlayStation 2!) and MCA leap to mind. In short, having created the 5150 PC as an open standard (only because they were late to the party) and thinking - wrongly - that nobody would be able to legally clone the BIOS (the only proprietary part in the computer), they created the PS/2, with the Micro Channel Architecture bus standard, which companies had to licence to use in their own machines, or even create peripherals for. Yes, it failed miserably. Sadly the same cluelessness also brought down OS/2, which people actually liked.

[@donf2944]

Tom Malloc: "dude is like a lawnmower" - Genius

[@ThePrimeTimeagen]

the man is a lawnmower

[@batatanna]

dude is like a lawnmower

[@renatocron]

GPT-4: explanation without any context is hilarious Here, a "lawnmower" is a device used to trim or cut down grass to an even height, maintaining neatness and order. Let's analyze a couple of possible metaphorical interpretations depending on context: If the context is about efficiency, the phrase may imply the man is very efficient and capable of getting tasks done quickly and neatly, just like a lawnmower rapidly trims grass. If the context is about causing drastic change, it may suggest that, like a lawnmower that brings a drastic change to the condition of a lawn, the man is capable of causing significant transformations, or "mowing down" obstacles in his path. If the context is about maintaining order, the phrase might mean that just as a lawnmower maintains the order of a lawn by keeping the grass uniform and neat, the man ensures everything in a situation or environment is orderly and well-regulated. Remember, the interpretation can vary depending on the context in which the phrase is used.

[@trapexit]

RH is in a tough spot. They handled the PR for all this so poorly. Not sure how else they could have handled it really but when Oracle dunks on you... ouch.

[@WinterAyars]

I'm no fan of Red Hat's actual decisions here but their PR surrounding this has been horrific.

[@ea_naseer]

Even Torvalds is afraid of Oracle. "Torvalds-senpai when are you bringing ZFS to Linux officially?" "Baka."

[@jobahd3626]

I need holy c to cleanse my eyes

[@Lucs-ku5cb]

Yamete Torvalds senpai

[@lamp007]

Oracle is just doing what I call the Samsung™️ Criticize your competitor for doing something shitty, then a few months later quietly do the same shitty thing.

[@AScribblingTurtle]

7:58 : Of course when its THEIR distro, it is "truely free". Just a reminder who Oracle are: They killed OpenOffice aka. the Open-Source Office alternative. They are the reason, why most distros have to use MariaDB instead of plain old MySQL. They are the reason why OpenJDK replaced their Standard Java in most distros. Man, speaking of the pot calling the kettle black. They don't give a 💩 about Open-Source, unless it can somehow improve their image or makes them money. 14:27 : my guess is, that it means: Oracle shreds everything, they come across.

[@chpsilva]

This article reeks of despair from Oracle. "Oh noes, we cannot tap in IBM's work for free anymore! Think about the children, I mean the open source community!".

[@WinterAyars]

No way Red Hat actually cuts Oracle off.

[@WinterAyars]

It's funny that Red Hat has shot itself in the foot so badly (and this is likely Red Hat and not IBM) that Oracle (thieves and scoundrels), of all people, decided to take a shot. Hey Oracle, why not release ZFS under a GPL compatible license hmmmmmmmm?

Oh I didn’t know that ORACLE backronym (14:14) 😂

[@Ryan-xq3kl]

IBM and everyone else to oracle: "I cant believe youve done this"

[@AntranigVartanian]

Oh my god, the lawnmower joke got the HN. Bryan Cantrill will be proud xD

[@based_gigachad6094]

bruh 🤣this is by FAR the best commentary on this I was looking for a video just like this! Big giant thumbs up and a sub from me

[@binary_gaming113]

You know someone has royally messed up when oracle looks like the good guys...

[@MyAmazingUsername]

Only to an idiot, sure.

[@willi1978]

oracle never looks like good guys. oracle can't be topped

[@HappyCheeryChap]

Larry looks a lot like John McAfee. I wonder if he has the same hobby involving hammocks with holes in them.

[@complexity5545]

Oooff

[@MarkParkTech]

Oracle is actually big enough and trusted enough in the industry that they could actually stand a chance of replacing RHEL. I'm not sure how I feel about that, given that it's Oracle.

[@MarkParkTech]

For clarity, Oracle is evil at their core.

[@ThePrimeTimeagen]

See that's the hard part. There are definitely people within oracle that are great engineers, great engineers that I have a lot of respect for. It would be great for them to take over. But it Oracle, not the engineers, has different agendas, and it makes it hard to make any statement about it.

[@twenty-fifth420]

@@ThePrimeTimeagenI think I can parse this fairly (and I am on Fedora so I have a lot to think and say about it). Business is a different ethical and social ball game then software engineering. Oracle is still a tech company with many magnificent achievements and tbh, the name is the coolest thing about them. But I do not want to see Oracle v. Google 2.0 Redhat Boogaloo when my free RHEL subscription for a time is probably an investment in vendor lock in. I might even switch Distros but that is a whole day and I do not have dragon balls. In short, I think Oracle is coming at this with good faith. I mean, nothing is more humbling to a business is being named in a supreme court lawsuit, right…right? 😅 Also full disclosure Redhat is not going closed source. See that alot with clickybaity channels and it is not true. But it is becoming a lot less open source and…well, open. But they are far away from a Microsoft imho.

[@asunavk69]

​@@twenty-fifth420 the one problem is that red hat or say ibm made the decision that firstly broke trust and in my view point this one not only affects their reputation but also even revenue, idk mb not, and all the hate is a vocal minority lel. Oracle with their track record could also possibly do this if successful in the space, but then again i agree my view point today regarding oracle is that at least they are not in for drama REGARDING this specific case, and surely if they just do the same as rhel they will get hurt twice as much.

[@asunavk69]

​@@twenty-fifth420 Also yeah i agree these companies are at least better imo than Microsoft where it comes to at least in open source, but sure as hell regarding linux!!

[@re_detach]

keep the content coming, love it!

[@muhdiversity7409]

The Virtue Bat Signal has been sent up by Oracle. Who's playing the Bat Man? Microsoft, Google, KZbin ? What a flippin clown show.

[@hjf3022]

I have wondered whether commercial repackagers like Oracle played a large part in Red Hat wanting to restrict access to RHEL. And if it had just been companies using CentOS and keeping support in-house, whether this would have happened at all.

[@rudde7251]

Why do people not stick with Debian?

[@ThePrimeTimeagen]

i like debian

[@derekreed6798]

Everyone uses Ubuntu these days. Oracle chewed up and spat out Sun Microsystems and with it Solaris..so they are rich talking about IBM. But linux should stay free..Free the linux.

[@ThePrimeTimeagen]

i use the debians, all my homies use debians, i know no one that uses red hat

[@therealb888]

I'm more concerned about what it means for fedora. If RHEL finds a bug or vulnerability downstream & patches it, can those patches be upstreamed to fedora?

[@immortalaxolotl]

Not sure if someone else mentioned this, but the lawnmower comment is from a talk called Fork Yeah by Bryan Cantrill where he went over Oracle's fuck ups in relation to Solaris. He said you shouldn't anthropomorphize Larry Ellison, he is like if a lawnmower cuts your hand off, the lawnmower doesn't hate you, it doesn't care, the lawnmower can't care, the lawnmower doesn't have empathy, and the same thing applied to Larry Ellison and Solaris.

[@Longlius]

Hot take: There has never been a greater opportunity for Linux to improve than IBM unceremoniously cutting Red Hat out of the game. We might actually see some standards which are not hot garbage take off now.

[@LillyAnarkitty]

Companies pontificating about how they deserve more paying customers in order to pay their employees is the most ironic thing ever. Red Hat literally just laid people off, while their shareholders draw massive amounts of profit from the business. As long as shareholders draw profit and executives get paid more than the janitor, customers are not responsible for the compensation of the employees.

[@AlexVSharp]

A Jetsons reference? Well, that came out of nowhere. I'm impressed.

[@cfossto]

Did these companies read the terms and conditions for the Linux kernel? Probably not. They clearly think that Linux is yet another OS-as-cash-cow.. They are balancing on a thin line..

[@daltonyon]

ORACLE SMASH IBM!! Starting a Tech Industry DRAMAAA... but I never use Oracle Linux widely used!

[@ThePrimeTimeagen]

i don't redhat let alone oracle linux

[@petrus4]

"IBM: Our cocaine doesn't pay for itself, kids. If the coke ain't free, the Linux ain't either."

[@EdwinMartin]

“I’m too old. Or am I too young?” 😂

[@earthling_parth]

Prime, do you really think RedHat is only the Linux distribution? It also contains OpenShift, Ansible, OpenStack, JBoss, Ceph, Quarkus, RH SSO, and many more!

[@whatever2144]

Most people are interested in the distribution and software offerings. RHEL is the most developed for Linux distribution so that's the pain point. Those other services are more relevant to businesses and those usually also pay, it might put them off with this crap,but your small-bussiness probably needs RHEL to run their software,not the rest of the packedge.

[@GC-jm9bt]

"As you know people, as you learn about things, you realize that these generalizations we have are, virtually to a generalization, false. Well, except for this one, as it turns out. What you think of Oracle, is even truer than you think it is. There has been no entity in human history with less complexity or nuance to it than Oracle. And I gotta say, as someone who has seen that complexity for my entire life, it's very hard to get used to that idea. It's like, 'surely this is more complicated!' but it's like: Wow, this is really simple! This company is very straightforward, in its defense. This company is about one man, his alter-ego, and what he wants to inflict upon humanity -- that's it! ...Ship mediocrity, inflict misery, lie our asses off, screw our customers, and make a whole shitload of money. Yeah... you talk to Oracle, it's like, 'no, we don't fucking make dreams happen -- we make money!' ...You need to think of Larry Ellison the way you think of a lawnmower. You don't anthropomorphize your lawnmower, the lawnmower just mows the lawn, you stick your hand in there and it'll chop it off, the end. You don't think 'oh, the lawnmower hates me' -- lawnmower doesn't give a shit about you, lawnmower can't hate you. Don't anthropomorphize the lawnmower. Don't fall into that trap about Oracle." -- Bryan Cantril at LISA11 (Fork Yeah! The Rise and Development of illumos)

[@KangoV]

Not sure about other versions, but at v5.18, Oracle was the largest contributor of patches to the Linux Kernel. Although, I think Oracle is an awful company, but a lot of the people that work there are great. In the late 1990s, IBM supported Linux with patent pledges, a $1 billion investment of technical and other resources, and helped to establish the Linux Foundation in 2000.

[@melski9205]

Oracle, Sun Microsystems. IBM, RedHat.

[@JeffScott-1978]

Anybody who gets onto a sailboat in the vicinity of Larry Ellison knows that their life is on the line. They know sailing, especially at this level, is dangerous and that Larry is willing to risk life and limb to win. They get aboard anyways. F@ck 'em.

[@aarong2374]

opensolaris was great. Really do miss it.

[@afterschool2594]

I thought the title was "Oracle drunk on IBM"

[@animanaut]

11:55 same with BingChat. works only with Edge Browser for whatever reason

[@Fanaro]

This should be right besides the dictionary's definition of gas lighting.

[@theena]

As someone who used to work in corporate communications, and wrote press releases for a living, this shouldn't have been approved - or wouldn't have been approved if it was some lowly intern who drafted it. This was definitely written and vetted by someone way up the chain at Oracle, while foaming at their mouth.

[@ThePrimeTimeagen]

agreed its a _WILD_ article from a public company

[@AdamPippert]

If a law firm masquerading as a tech company wants to fire shots because straight up copying RHEL and changing only the bits with legal ramifications requires more effort now, I don’t see why I should have sympathy for them.

[@dleonardo3238]

Can you make some content about Kotlin?

[@diadetediotedio6918]

2:30 pm I think that was a good statement, even if it seems superficial if looked at without a specific scrutiny. There is a pattern to these people's reviews and it usually goes like this: * I like you, you've done things that please me and/or my friends and/or you've followed some kind of agenda that pleases me -> You're very interested, you do things because you care and that's it * I don't like you for whatever reason, or you're irrelevant to me -> This is a company, of course it just wants to make a profit, isn't it obvious? There is an evil plan behind this company's actions because companies are evil, BOOOOOO! When you stop seeing the world as a big platform where people are fighting and there are these abstract entities that people invoke to make their opponents look like monsters, like "profit" or "being a company", and you start seeing that there are human beings there even if they are shitty human beings, things just seem less hysterical.

[@satnififu]

"We forked RHEL because we didn't want to fragment the Linux Enterprise space" I thought it was because you could just fork RHEL and reap in millions while doing essentially nothing

[@Rand0081]

"I want nothing to do with Oracle and Microsoft." Achieving it is real career success.

[@AbhinavKulshreshtha]

This is funny. 🤣. But at the same time, you know hell has frozen. Oracle trying to say they are friendly to civilization!!.

[@CYXXYC]

the name is the lawnmowergen

[@achrefnasri8847]

hey blue pot have you met this red kettle ?

[@Ataraxia_Atom]

Oracle has no self reflection on that day

[@h2_]

did he ever read the suse thing or do i have to find and read it myself? :(

[@willi1978]

oracle calling out ibm for things they do on a daily basis. oracle is probably the reason why red hat took the source away

[@Kevin-ij8qb]

If i contribute to open source, does that make me an open sourcerer? 🧙‍♂️

[@fringefringe7282]

Genius!

[@nobyra]

Everyone knows when the person next to you falls down, don't help them get up. Instead stand on their corpse patting your own back for your hard earned success because you did it! And you're better than everyone else.

[@MeriaDuck]

The way you pronounce RHEL as ruHELL with stress on the latter, please allow me to use that myself from now on 🙂 Also, why did I not come up with that backronym for Oracle at 14:12 (not quoting here, watch the video, you want ThePrimes reaction)

[@christophorusreyhan8480]

Huh. Does this mean RHEL becomes anti competitive, since they prevent oracle to compete? Correct me if I'm wrong

[@LaPingvino]

Other than most other very valid comments, I think Oracle also basically just burnt itself too much on this before xD.

[@itznukeey]

I use Oracle's free cloud servers they are actually great, you get 4-core ARM CPU with 24GB vram as a free Minecraft server lol

[@DMSBrian24]

they reserve the right to cancel that at any point and remove all your data with no warning, and they exercise that right very frequently, if i were you i'd schedule regular backups of your mc world

[@SharunKumar]

We all know that the only way to resolve this is by a boxing match

[@familyshare3724]

Ellison broke down in tears after sailing "through the eye of a hurricane" to win the tragic Sydney-to-Hobart yacht race on Tuesday (Dec 1998). At least three sailors died and three others were missing. "We just want to pay tribute to families who lost sailors who were in this race and our prayers go out to the search crews and the people who are still in the water," Ellison said when his US yacht, the Sayonara, was officially declared the winner. "We hope they all can be found."

[@TurtleKwitty]

Being compatible in oracle linux sense goes both ways, they can easily get people from RHEL but RHEL can also easily get their clients so its win some lose some

[@WinterAyars]

Oracle just prices under RHEL is all. They take the RHEL source and release it as their own, which is in their rights under the GPL but it must be said it saves them a lot on development costs. The fact that people want to go with RHEL anyway is pretty funny.

[@cbbcbb6803]

And now Oracle are the good guys? They could switch to Slackware as a basis for an Oracle Linux.

[@limpiadora]

16:33 Microsoft umm, you use windows don't you!

[@chebrubin]

Was it JavaScript or Java?

[@u9vata]

But how can IBM withold a products source code if the product is GPLv2??? That is licence infringement - regardless how they can or cannot pay engineers... It is as if they would be licencing some tech for a fee and start saying "oh we cannot pay you licences for arm ISA but we will keep using them - sorry we need to pay engineers..." What is difference?

[@SharpBritannia]

They can withold source from those who don't get binaries id est non-customers They are also well within their right to choose who their customers are therefore punishing anyone who dares redistributing the source they've got. It's immoral but perfectly legal. Just goes to show how strong copyleft is just a fucking myth

[@aodfr]

Oracle is still the biggest tech troll in tech industry.

[@isodoubIet]

"Just pull from us" lololololololo

[@judahmatende3769]

the OracleShillAGEN

[@PS3PCDJ]

You know you fucked up when Oracle of all the companies, starts to lecture you about your practices.

[@kurt7020]

If you don't need docker, FreeBSD is often a fine alternative to linux.

[@Anon.G]

Why doesn't it support docker?

[@whatever2144]

​@@Anon.GIt's not exactly a Linux kernel ,but is Unix compatible and is supported by a rather small team,so not enough resources and it's not easy.

[@user-yo7hz8gw4t]

​@@Anon.GI believe that question is backwards

[@Anon.G]

@@user-yo7hz8gw4t I wouldn't say so, many bsd's have support for Linux kernals

[@RafaelUbaldo]

Oracle leeches off of RHEL.

[@PaulSebastianM]

Oracle is Penniwise.

[@TheAces1979]

If you're ever using a product for free? You're the product.

[@Monster_Rancher]

RHEL, ultimate evil edition.

[@skrypets]

Someone got salty from all that ocean racings.

[@FirstNameLastName-eo2pq]

ISV -- Independent Software Vendors...

[@PuntiS]

This is like those brands pretending to be people on Twitter.

[@vitiok78]

Jump from Red Hat to Oracle? It's so stupid considering the latest news. Admins have PTSD from dealing with company distributions.

[@DMWatchesYoutube]

They can't change it, that's why they are pulling a pr campaign

[@TheSkepticSkwerl]

34 billion. i would have sold out SO fast

[@lisovyy]

rhel...love it :D

[@EzequielRegaldo]

Java devs : we are not using c# because its microsoft Oracle : haha, woman