KEF LS50 Meta vs KEF R7 subjective comparison (no sound demo)

[@t8500shx]

Nice review 👍🏼 Glad to hear about the Metas w/sub was better performance for you in your situation. I’m hoping to have the wireless II & sub in a small 2-channel room.

[@bryaneditiontv600]

Same here

[@Miskatonic-University]

Loved your video, more useful to me than a hundred reviews. I have a pair of LS50W for stereo listening which I truly love, been wondering about the KEF R series to upgrade my Home Cinema for some time now. But tbh maybe I should just buy 11 units of the LS50's 😁

[@techjourney5383]

Thanks! I do think the R series is excellent for home cinema purposes but I think LS50 was better for music based on my preferences. I’m seriously considering R series for my home theatre room though. Good luck with your speaker hunt😊

[@Vectorsumio]

I really want to try some R900's but I just don't want to give up my XQ5's. Anybody out there, can you tell me if the XQ5's (matching center) can compete with or are like/better/worse than the R900s? I can listen to my kef ls50's for so long before they fatigue me (if that helps you identify my sound taste)

[@RiffsRhythm]

Great video! Just wondering if you had tried the R3's to compare? Would they sit somewhere in the middle?

[@techjourney5383]

Sorry haven’t tried the R3’s but imagine they would fall somewhere in the middle based on my experience with the excellent R300’s ( now discontinued). I think the LS50’s probably deliver more detail but the R300’s probably sound a bit larger/fuller due to their size. The R300’s really surprised me with the amount of bass that they put out when I had them.

[@abcalvinchan]

Does anyone have any thoughts on ls50 meta vs the R3? I've read some comparisons to the OG LS50, and it seemed like people overall preferred the R3's. I currently have the ls50w II, and I love the mid range on them. But I wish it had a bit more low, which is why I am considering to go back to a passive speaker on the R3 and run off my 1592.

[@techjourney5383]

Hi Alvin, I don’t have any experience with R3 but did spend a lot of time comparing R300 vs LS50. R300 offered way more bass but I preferred the midrange of the LS50. The only way the LS50’s work for me is after pairing with fast musical subs like the REL T7i’s which takes the performance above that of the R series for me.

[@jimfalco8302]

Here is what a kef rep said about this comparison: Thank you for reaching out to us. The LS50 Meta and the R3 don't really deserve an apples to apples comparison because they are not in the same series of speakers. Yes, they are bookshelf speakers, but beyond that the big difference you need to consider is the low frequency driver on the R3. The typical in room bass response of the R3s is 30Hz at -6dB and features engineering and technology used in our Reference and Blade series of speakers. Whereas the LS50 Meta certainly benefits from MAT technology and excellent imaging but has to do what it does with a single Uni-Q driver. I would think the better comparison is an LS50 Meta with a Kube 12b sub woofer to an R3 at which point you would probably experience richer, fuller mid-frequencies from the R3. Both are excellent choices, but you would want to consider whether a sub-woofer will work for you as well, or if the low frequencies are as important to you. I hope this helps

[@happinessliving6713]

Hi. I owned the Ls50 for 4 Years and now went for the r3 because they are easyer to drive. I am missing some of the Midrange warmth I had with the Ls50 though. Do the Mettas have a better more pleasing midrange than the R7? Thanks

[@techjourney5383]

I think the LS50’s have a slightly more pleasing, forward and full sounding midrange. I also think the LS50’s do a little bit better with fine details like hearing a singers lips moving as they are forming notes. Please keep in mind though that the differences are minor as they both have a similar house sound in my opinion. Hope that helps!

[@JuanLega]

Interesting. I have the R5's and I'm wondering how they stack up against the Meta's. Did you loose punchiness in the sound going from the R7's to the Meta's..?

[@techjourney5383]

Hi Juan, I did not lose any punchiness or bass slam because I paired the Metas with the KF92 sub. I personally would not have been satisfied with the LS50’s without the sub. Hope that helps!

[@arongatt]

Nice setup there , I love kef and have a decent 5.1 set up with the Q300 and a 2ch with the Ls50w. I’m very happy with both setups but maybe il get the new kef sub for the 2ch setup. I would suggest a nice tick carpet in that room.

[@techjourney5383]

Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment. Latest video shows rug/carpet and I plan to add some additional room treatment soon. Thanks again!

[@arongatt]

@@techjourney5383 oh sry did not watch that one 😊

[@orressel9871]

I have the ls50W 2, and want to pair with a sub Trying to decide between the kf92 to rel s510. What do you think? (I'm mostly into music)

[@techjourney5383]

The dealer that I mentioned in the video also had an S510 at his shop...truly outstanding subwoofer that I think would perform better than the KF92 except for in my relatively small home office where it seems that the dual side fireing woofers perform better than my dual front firing REL T7i’s which cause all kinds of bass issues in the same room. I think it really boils down to the room you are going to put them in but if it would work well in your room then I would go with the REL S510. If it is a smaller room like mine then I would go with the KEF. I plan to post another video at some point comparing the KF92, dual REL T7i’s and dual REL R218’s but will need more time playing with the system before doing that. Hope this helps!

[@orressel9871]

@@techjourney5383 it really helps! Thanks!

[@TheTheis1995]

did you hear the klipsch rp 8000f? if you did what is your opinion, specialy compared to the kefs :)

[@AntonRacing]

have you tried neat motive sx2 /1 or REGA rx-5 ? i think they outmatch KEF by faaaaaaaaar, i mean its amatter of fact - ive listened to those 4 hours today. KEF r7 or r5 and ls50 really are like 2nd class speakers after i listened to Rega or Neat , and i went to the listening because i wanted some ls50, but really NONO

[@JonathanGurgul]

Have you listened to the B&W 705 S2s ? I auditioned them today vs the Metas and can’t decide. Getting a good deal on either one so price isn’t a factor. I wish I could try them in my home environment like what you have been able to do here. Just curious to see what you thought of them if so.

[@techjourney5383]

Sorry haven’t heard the 705’s but I know they have been receiving great positive buzz from folks like Steve Huff, Steve Gutenberg and others. Please try to remember to let us know what you think if you go in that direction as I am interested too😊

[@hclandscapes]

Im also trying to decide about going for the 705s2's, i currently have the original ls50's with a Hegel H90, what did you think about the 705s2's?

[@JonathanGurgul]

@@hclandscapes They are very good, more open sounding and airy than most speakers. You can really hear the difference in the tweeter on top compared to the 706s which sound harsh and shouty when A/B’d back and forth. The Metas seemed more subdued like not “muddy” but just more laid back. The B&Ws were a litter hotter in the treble but had that top end sparkle and brightness that the KEFs didn’t have. The KEFs seemed to have slightly tighter imaging but not necessarily better. I really can’t tell which I will like better at home. I’m sure either way I will be happy.

[@hclandscapes]

@@JonathanGurgul what amplifier did you use?

[@briancampbell7712]

should have played them❓

[@booradley3146]

I listened to the Meta's and the R5's last week in the show room. Whilst I was expecting the R5s to be better, (I know the comparison is with the R&'s but they aren't different) they weren't (of course this is all subjective) but the detail with the Meta's was way more refined and my selected music (the salesman toe tapped to, but not to the r5's). The R5's felt more muffled, a little more heavy / bulky. The Meta's bass (no sub added, was surprisingly good). I really was opting for a floor standing speakers (Spendor A4s for example), I have been living with Klipsch's RP500s and now the RB81 II's for a few years. I think Klispch put me off bookshelf speakers. - But now I am torn. Like you said, the Meta's are really quite something else considering the price and price difference. If I get them, here in Switzerland I can't test the Spendors really. And if I get the Meta's will my apt just be like a YoutTuber's showroom (not yours) and not really the best for sound. :) Quick question though, how far from the wall the you have them? My Klispsch's are over 80cm.

[@techjourney5383]

Hi thanks for sharing your experience. I tried both ranging from 1ft to about 3.5ft in my home. At the dealer showroom I tried both about 5 ft from the wall. I preferred the Metas+sub in all cases.

[@booradley3146]

@@techjourney5383 Which is quite surprising given the size to be honest. I'm not sure if it's the meta structure inside that helps the bass sound more defined or not. I am gonna go back with my amp and try them and see how the two get on (or pay for them and try them at home for a few days.

[@booradley3146]

@@techjourney5383 btw the song I did the bass test with (and a bit but not only for vocals) was a song called "Last Stand" by Kwabs. 👌

[@techjourney5383]

I was quite surprised as well considering the difference in cabinet size. The only conclusions that I could draw were slightly larger uniq driver in the Meta (5.25” vs 5”), better cabinet build, better crossover design, and Meta material as you mentioned. One other thing that I found interesting is that Kef lists the LS50 as being part of their “flagship” series along with Blade and Muon whereas R series is classified as “hifi”. Good luck on your speaker journey!

[@bryaneditiontv600]

@@booradley3146 it only affects the highs, btw im swiss too. En guete tag wönschi

[@Michael-xz1nk]

My LS50's are only 18 months old and I love them. Absolutely no need to trade up to the Meta's and lose money. I drive them with a Linn LK140 amp (95wpc@8ohms).

[@techjourney5383]

Thanks for sharing Michael. I too am smitten with LS50’s and have one pair of the original version for my desktop setup, another pair for my bedroom setup and then the Metas in the video. I actually like the older version a bit more sometimes depending on setup/equipment matching. Both are great though!

[@Michael-xz1nk]

@@techjourney5383 Hi...you surely are an LS50 fan with 3 pairs. If the Meta’s are better as some say, I’d guess they are maybe 10-15% better...hardly enough to motivate a upgrade purchase. In most cases, different is different but not always better. Your assessment of the original vs the Meta is interesting to say the least. Plus, I have the white electric blue, which I love and now discontinued. Also, someday, I may need to replace a vintage tower speaker and I have been eying the R5...the R7 is beyond my budget. Any thoughts on the R5...probably less bass than the R7. It’s hard because none of the KEF dealers stock the R towers. They are gorgeous in white!! Cheers!! m

[@techjourney5383]

I’ve unfortunately never heard the R5’s but I originally became interested in the series after listening to them over a KZbin video of a guy that I follow called “sound sommelier”. If you search for “kef r5” you should be able to find him. He played a track by Kenny G and it sounded great to me even over KZbin!

[@Michael-xz1nk]

@@techjourney5383 Ah....I could never judge a speaker over YT...they all sound good to me...lol! Many thanks for the good chatter....

[@techjourney5383]

Totally understand what you mean which is why I ultimately had to try the R7’s for myself at home😊 take care!

[@gliamantidelsuono9219]

good video

[@ac.4ce442]

You didn't use the sub with the r7 just with the Meta? Why...

[@techjourney5383]

Not sure what gave you that impression? I did try the R7’s with the same subs and in different rooms and with different amps.

[@wondersplit9229]

evaluating speakers in highly reverberant room?

[@techjourney5383]

We had just moved into this house at the time of the video. If you check out some of my newer videos you should be able to hear that the major issues have been tamed with a rug and some other room treatment.

[@wondersplit9229]

@@techjourney5383 even so, i checked the KC62 video. still can hear reflection from your voice. cant you just buy some rockwool, some celenit and spruce and make a listening room?

[@techjourney5383]

I have some of the GIK acoustic panels but I like this room to sound bit “lively”. I may buy one more of the GIK artistic/acoustic panels but I’m pretty happy with the setup and look in this room. Thanks!

[@bryaneditiontv600]

What is a toe tap factor?

[@techjourney5383]

Term used amongst some audiophiles to summarize the emotional response that some people have when they listen to music. If you are bobbing your head, snapping your fingers, whistling along, tapping your toes then you probably like what you hear😊

[@bryaneditiontv600]

@@techjourney5383 that was very helpful thx a lot😊❤

[@brucek6838]

Thanks for the comparison. I've been using passive and active versions of the original LS50's for a couple years and finally got my LS50 Wireless II's about 2 weeks ago. Truly outstanding speakers. It seems that most 'official' reviews in the press are understating the significance of the LS50 Meta and calling it an incremental upgrade. It's not.. It's a game changer. Perhaps they're concerned about blowback from their advertisers. To get this level of performance at this price is incredible. Sounds like you got a great dealer there.

[@techjourney5383]

Thanks for the comments. I totally agree...I think the LS50’s are the everyday person’s affordable entry point into the world of true hifi. They scale extremely well as you upgrade upstream equipment over time, or also offer a great all in one solution with the wireless version. Thanks again!

[@Quattro5081]

How is the bass with LS50 and the sub compared to the R7, and how are they with modern music like pop, electronic etc?

[@techjourney5383]

Bass seemed more nuanced and detailed with the LS50 + sub vs R7 + same sub. I could hear and enjoy nuances with bass notes coming from instruments like piano and guitar. I believe it is referred to as better “micro dynamics” but I could be mistaken. Sorry not in to modern pop or electronic...more an R&B and classic rock kind of guy😊

[@Quattro5081]

@@techjourney5383 Many thanks for your reply!. I have the old LS50 and maybe upgrading to the new Metas with the same sub as you use, but there are so many choices of speakers so its not easy to choose

[@techjourney5383]

I too use the older LS50’s and prefer them slightly on my desktop setup. I agree so many great options out there. Good luck with the new speaker hunt! I hope you find something that brings you joy!

[@Quattro5081]

@@techjourney5383 Many thanks for your reply again!. Why do you prefer the old LS50 in your desktop setup?, and what amp do you use?

[@techjourney5383]

It’s hard to say...very similar sound but I feel like the old ls50 gives me a little more “bite” to the upper frequencies and the newer are a bit smoother. I use a ragnarok 2 so that might have something to do with it. Again, very slight differences but I found it interesting that I preferred the older version on my desktop. Great lesson for me that newer doesn’t always equal better...sometimes just different.

[@jbt6121]

i would have tried some different amps with the r7s and you really need to pull them out from all the walls. good comparison otherwise.

[@techjourney5383]

Thanks for the feedback. I tried a couple of different amps and preamps as well as different placements in three different rooms and varied distance to walls, toed in vs no toe in, and distance between speakers. It was pretty easy for me to determine after listening to both that I prefer the LS50 Metas + sub but the R7’s are great speakers for sure. My dealer told me before the at home trial that I was going to prefer the LS50 Metas and he was right, but I was just so smitten with the looks of the R7’s that I had to give it a try😊

[@sidvicious3129]

I had heard that the metas were slightly more subdued over the Ls50s in the treble department. My question for you did you ever consider or actually heard the Kef R3, which are a closer size match and price match than the R7s. If you heard the R3s at your dealers what did you think? My current choices will be the Kef R3 vs the Ls50s metas. I had bought the original Ls50s and they were too bright and just tore my head off. They are a good shock and awe speaker though for first time listeners. The original Ls50s are a good speaker but more of a one trick pony and I have found that even the q350s are a better balance of sound overall offering much better bass, but far less treble, which could be a problem for some. I’m using the Kef q350 until I make a final decision. Oh one last question did you hear the Kef R11 vs those r7s and what did you think?

[@Simon-dn9kv]

I read in a couple of reviews that you really have to crank the R series in order to get decent bass. That's also why I ended up with the LS50s. Peace of advice, if the stands are filled with sand, try putting Iso Acoustics footers under the stands. They don't cost much and gave me a huge bump in holographicness.

[@techjourney5383]

Thanks for the advice Simon! Just got the S2 stands and will be filling them with either kitty litter or aquarium rocks soon. I was also thinking about getting the isoacoustic footers if only to raise the stands a little but also great to know that I can expect more holographicness as well😊 thanks again!

[@JonathanGurgul]

@@techjourney5383 Try this for $20! It’s made for them. www.bestbuy.com/site/gfs-fd-inert-filler-for-kef-speaker-stand-black/5838509.p?skuId=5838509

[@techjourney5383]

Thanks! Wish I would have seen this sooner as I just filled with fine aquarium gravel yesterday🙁

[@CriPPleR_HD]

Started from the Klipch RP-600m, Elac Debut Reference, and currently on the B&W 606 S2 Anniversary Edition. Love the sound of the 606s, great bass / midrange detail, and big sound stage. Unfortunately I am not a fan of the plain non textured cabinet of the 606s so I ordered the Bowers and Wilkins 706 S2s in rosenut. Figured a real wood finish and an upgraded tweeter will justify the cost. The 706 S2s are expected to be here Thursday (tomorrow!). Also, I order a pair of Kef LS50 Metas to compare with both the 606 S2s and the 706 S2s. The Metas are expected to be delivered this Friday. I am in for a fun weekend! If the 706’s beat the Meta’s I can see myself living happily with the 706’s and purchasing a pair of 707 S2 for surround speakers. If I feel like I am still wanting after listening to the 706, I can see me moving them to surround duty and trying the 705s. In this scenario the 705s will max out my budget. If the Meta’s win me over, my wallet will be grateful! Either way, whatever I end up with, I will have the piece of mind that I tried most of the speakers that I was interested in on my own equipment and my own environment. I can enjoy my speakers without the FOMO and not be affected by people opinions that “these speaker are too bright” this, or “these speakers lack”that. You are doing the right thing. Use online to find out what is out there. Find a place locally that allows you to try speakers out, or find a place with a generous return policy. Try what you are interested in in your own environment. Start with good inexpensive speakers, and then climb up to the point where you hit diminishing returns for your overall budget. After all this , you will be confident that what you purchase is right for you... not what a person online or on KZbin says it is right for you. 👍🏽

[@techjourney5383]

Really great feedback, thanks! I hear great things about the 705/706 s2 so really curious to hear which one you end up going with as it might trigger my upgrade-Itis😊 can you please report back once you decide? One more thing...I personally do not like LS50’s without a fast musical sub that matches well. Something in the 8” range like a REL T7i or better yet the new KEF KC62 which I have on order. Do you plan to run subs?

[@CriPPleR_HD]

@@techjourney5383 yup! Planning to use a sub but I would like to evaluate how the speakers stand up on there own as well. Currently using a repurposed HSU VTF sub that I had hanging around from when I upgraded my main home theater. It integrates well with the 606s. The sub seems fast enough but I never really owned a small fast sub so I am interested and trying the Rel T/9i or something similar to compare. For sure! I will report back my results. If helpful I can throw up some videos on my KZbin channel. Nothing professional, I just use it for sharing stuff with friends and family, but might be cool to use it to document this little adventure.

[@techjourney5383]

Excellent thanks!

[@CriPPleR_HD]

@@techjourney5383 I received the Bowers and Wilkins 707 S2, 706 S2, and the Kef LS50 yesterday. Compared each of them to the 606 S2 Anniversary Editions. Used both the Marantz SR7013 which will be used for this set up, and tested them on my main Anthem AVM70 / McIntosh that powers my main Focal set up. I wanted to make sure that any negatives was not caused by the receiver. Started with the 606 S2 to get a fresh snapshot of the sound profile and I was immediately reminded how much I loved the sound of these speakers. Confident detail bass, great instrument separation, and lively highs. Bass on both Bury a Friend and Bad Guy by Billy Ellish where on point. Same with Danileigh’s Superstar. Well mixed albums like Gregory Porter’s Liquid Spirits and Venessa Fernandez’s Use Me put out a conceiving hi-if presentation. Great speakers, especially for the price. Marantz easily powered the 606 speakers. Next up was the LS50. Great imaging, and lovely deep tone to the vocal. Sound stage was wide, deep, but not very tall or low. That being said, these speakers are just not for me. They have a synthetic quality to the instruments that some might prefer, but I could not get into. But the ultimate deal breaker was the bass. These things bottom out at moderate levels with or with out a sub. Bass heavy tracks like Superstar, bad guy, and bury a friend proved to much for the LS50 metas. The 606 easily handled the bass from these tracks while providing low frequency detail that was just absent from the LS50s. These speakers also required a crossover of 80 where as the other speakers could easily do a 60hz xover which preserved more midrange detail. Next up, I thought I try the 607 S2 before moving them to the rear channels. Boy am I glad I did. For me, these little speakers totally out classed the LS50s. They played louder, lower, and offered a super large sound stage. I thought to myself, I could live with these. That was until I tried the 706 S2. The 706 have extremely good instrument separation . Quick full bass that sounds like it is coming out of a floor stand speaker. Highs are phenomenal! Sound stage is tall, wide, deep and low hence my comment about sounding like really good floor stand speakers. This is getting long but suffice to say, I am in love with the 706s and they are not even broken it yet! If you have any questions let me know. If you like, share your email and I can send you some unprofessional videos of my evaluating these speakers.

[@techjourney5383]

Thanks for the excellent feedback and song details - I’ll need to check those out! It sounds like you have landed on the speakers that move you emotionally and that’s what matters. It took me a long time to figure out how to make the LS50’s sing by trying many different amps and preamps, and have also found that I cannot enjoy them without pairing them with a very fast musical sub like a pair of REL T7i. Just as an example I also tried the T5i which didn’t provide enough depth for my liking, and the T9i wasn’t fast enough for my liking. A lot of work and money spent trying different equipment combinations so again congrats on finding speakers that don’t require so much fuss to make great music😊

[@whitecrowuk575]

I love the look of r7s but meta just sounds better. I hope new version of r line will sound closer to ls50 but with deeper lows, in meantime meta it is

[@timothykeough1106]

I am not sure about your other room, but I don't see how you can make judgements with this listening area. Just by the audio, it sounds like there is a ton of echo and reflective surface. There are no room treatments, and that floor is super reflective. At an absolute minimum, you need a rug in the front area. The room size also has a lot to do with it. LS50 are great for smaller spaces, and for near field applications. The R7 needs a lot more space. In a large, well treated room, the R7 would totally blow away the LS50 Meta. I own both, and have duel KC62 subs. My R7 is in a 600 SF living area, with the LS50 in a 150 SF bedroom/office. There is a reason the R7 costs almost three times as much as the LS50.

[@techjourney5383]

Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment. I agree that the acoustics in the room at the time that the video was filmed were terrible. Things are much better now which you might be able to tell by my more recent videos. As mentioned in the video, I used the R7’s in two different homes and three different rooms and have now compared them against the LS50 Meta’s, original LS50’s, R700’s, KEF Reference 1/3/5 and while the R7’s are great, I prefer each one of the other KEF speakers more than than the R7’s. Check out my latest video on the KEF Reference speakers if interested. Thanks again!

[@bradpickett3994]

Hi Timothy - do you have your R7s paired for the dual 62s? I am looking for a sub to pair with my 7s but space is limited..

[@timothykeough1106]

@@bradpickett3994 hi. Yes, I do. Amazing combination, and highly recommend.

[@missionlinguistiquefrancop6356]

Merci ! Just one remark : it's high time the whole civilized world used metric system, and stopped measuring a room size in inches ad feet ;-)

[@younglowed227]

Wrong place for the sub 😢

[@DJMikeron]

Try putting a carpet in your room ,room acoustic looks really bad

[@techjourney5383]

Thanks my more recent videos show that I did just that. House was brand new when I posted this video so took some time for me to get the treatments/acoustics to where I like them.

[@thehoff7479]

Sorry, based on our video I wanted to go for the ls50 Meta's. Luckily the dealer had also a pair of R5s and R11s. Both were much better than the ls50 Meta's! With Andre Bocellis Nessun dorma I was already sold before he even started to sing!!! Why? Because the R5 or R11s just gave a much larger Soundstage! You have every detail!!! And this was not only with Bocelli, but also with Guns and Roses, Whitney Houston and others. The ls50 meta's are just not sounding bright enough! Yesterday I liked you video because everbody loves it when cheaper is better, but in this case it is just the case! So my advice would be to everybody: go to the KEF store and start to listen the difference yourself. I also heared he R3s and also think they were much better than the ls50 metas. Meta sounds more than marketing in my ears.

[@techjourney5383]

Appreciate your feedback and glad you found something you liked.

[@whitecrowuk575]

Interesting as I went the opposite direction from R3 to meta and find it more revealing with better wider soundstage. But I do use them with sub which changes things quite a bit.

[@timothykeough1106]

@@whitecrowuk575 how big is your listening area?

[@whitecrowuk575]

@@timothykeough1106 I sit fairly close - 10 feet away. In bigger rooms and if I sat further I can imagine R3 would sound better

[@wadez1000]

Dunno how well i can trust this video because this room is an echo chamber.

[@techjourney5383]

Yeah, acoustics were pretty bad in this video. If you check out some of my later ones you can hear that things have improved. Same recording equipment but I added a large rug, acoustic panel and more furniture. Also keep in mind that I tried the speakers in multiple different rooms in two different homes before I posted this video. Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment.

Ls 50 meta is an unrivaled speaker in its field if good positioning and dsp adjustment is made. I have never heard better in terms of dynamic range and detail.

[@techjourney5383]

Wonderful high value speaker indeed. I found that I needed to spend much more to beat it😊

[@olivrrrr]

Get some room treatment in there! 😤

[@techjourney5383]

Sure will. Many projects to work on for our new home but will add room treatment little by little over time. My latest video shows an area rug which helped a lot. Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment.

[@praetor47]

lol

[@episteme666]

oh shadap and play it!

[@tomasaquino3339]

test audio? fail