Keilwerth Shadow VS Yanagisawa WO10 Tenor Saxophone Comparison @ PM Woodwinds!

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Mike Block

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@claimsnavigation5804 6 ай бұрын

I love Yani’s! Both sounded great, but the ease of play of Yanagisawa is why I love them.

@pufferfish0567 4 ай бұрын

I love playing yanagisawa horns and really like the versatility of the instrument. They’re like a finely tuned sports car.

@garyboudreau7521 Ай бұрын

Both horns sound great. The Yani seems to sound quieter in the low end of the saxophone. I have hear that, as you mention the ergonomics seem to fit really well. Your test room seems to echo or reflect sound which is probably good to compare horns, but i would have liked a bit of sound damping to reduce the echo. Both are pro horns, but I like Keilwerth SX90R since I own one, and it has been very reliable. Well played.

@jazztime4 6 ай бұрын

Lifelong Mark 6 alto player here (in my 70’s ) who, two years ago, switched to a Yani AWO-10. For me, the tonal richness of the 6 is more than made up for in the ease and playability of my modern Yani Elite! Its even scale, incredible action and quick response has made playing sax fun again! Kind of like what you just felt on that Elite tenor! It’s OK, Mike- admit it !😁👍

@MikeBlock 6 ай бұрын

I did admit it! Great horn!

@MikeBlock 6 ай бұрын

Btw if you aren’t using that 6 anymore I’d be more than happy to take it off your hands 😂

@jazztime4 6 ай бұрын

@@MikeBlock Sorry, I actually sold that immaculate 60 year old Mark 6 for more than double the amount I then paid for the new Yani! Then took a cruise! 😎👍

@solecaring1230 5 ай бұрын

Hello Mike is it true that Keilwerth saxophone is heavier than the rest of the brands? @@MikeBlock

@MikeBlock 5 ай бұрын

@@solecaring1230 Maybe very slightly... but barely noticeable to me. They definitely feel a bit bigger in the hands as the right hand keys are a little more spread but at the end of the day they are all very similar in mass and composition. This particular horn is "Nickel Silver" (60% copper, 20% nickel and 20% zinc.) Most horns are brass (66% copper and 34% zinc.) That being said, most Keilwerths are brass besides this "Shadow" and another discontinued model.

@urrich3269 6 ай бұрын

For me, the Yani seemed to have a smoother sound and action versus the Keilwurth, which seemed at bit more harsh or brassy. In addition, the Keilwerth sounded more like me breaking-in a new hard reed, which, for me, initially takes a lot more air and work. It could be just a matter of more time on the horn, but I thought I heard an intonation issue on middle C of the Yani, when sustained.

@robm667 6 ай бұрын

Yani sounded more vintage and rounder than JK. I'd put the JK on Huey Lewis song lists, and Yani on jazz. Good to know that in your opinion the Yani has more resistance, which I understand is typical for ribbed horns, but I've found a thinner brass body seems to make a sax unevenly bright at higher pitches. (At least it did for an Eastman 52nd St and Yani TW01 (not 01O) that I've tried.) I appreciate the time taken to do the comparison.

@gazelli 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the demo. Both horns sound great!

@MikeBlock 6 ай бұрын

Thanks you so much! Stay tuned…I’ve got 3 more on the way this month.

@tkannen 6 ай бұрын

I’ll take the Shadow but I’m biased, been playing a Keilwerth for 15 years.

@JosephSalinas-r4r 2 ай бұрын

Any good??😮😮@@tkannen

@JosephSalinas-r4r 2 ай бұрын

You sound much better, a lot fuller tone on the yani. And you look more comfortable playing it as well. 😮😊

@michaelcaldwell7107 6 ай бұрын

I have an older Couf Superba 1/Keilwerth I bought new in the seventies, and a fairly new Yamaha 82zII. The Keilwerth has a huge sound. The 82Z is more focused and has the best tuning of any saxophone I've ever played. I've tried a fair amount of horns over the years and the 47 year old Couf and the fairly new Yamaha are the two best horns I've ever played. Of the Selmers I've tried, I prefer the BAs over the VIs, but I think a lot players shortchange themselves when looking for a new horn when they only consider vintage horns. There's a lot of great horns being produced right now. The new Selmer is getting great reviews. As far as your test, I think the Keilwerth does sound bigger and the Yani sounds a little more focused. I'm sure you could make most horns sounds great, but all players want something a little different. Key feel, resistance, how they sound when on a gig or in recording, all make a difference.

@robertpayne5233 6 ай бұрын

I like the focused sound of the Yani better than a spread sound. But that's just my personal preference and we are all different. It should also be said that we do not all hear sound the same so what sounds good to one person may not sound good to another. When I switched to modern horns from vintage horns I stopped worrying about equipment and am now happily concentrating on music instead. You sound excellent on both horns.

@MikeBlock 6 ай бұрын

Thanks Robert!

@edizondayao311 6 ай бұрын

I go for the JK. Massive sound, powerful monster German craftmanship. Played them for 30 yrs sx90r tenor

@MikeBlock 6 ай бұрын

20 yrs for me!

@garyboudreau7521 3 ай бұрын

Like the sound of both. Big fan of sx90R, but I have one.

@biwc-erie3618 6 ай бұрын

You seemed to enjoy playing the Yanagisawa. Both are wonderful horns

@MikeBlock 6 ай бұрын

I did! Really fun horn with great ergonomics. I played a school owned black lacquer yani in high school. It brought me back!

@benhostetler268 6 ай бұрын

Rolled toneholes create a larger surface area for the pad to seal but it doesn’t create a better seal bc the pad cannot seat as deep. Now that that is out of the way you should compare the SX90R to an SBA I believe Paul still has few in stock.

@tboy5443 6 ай бұрын

I prefer the keilwerth. It has character

@beckyn9338 6 ай бұрын

Dude, you need to buy that Yani. You sound great on it.

@MikeBlock 6 ай бұрын

Dude, send me 5k and I will!

@beckyn9338 6 ай бұрын

@@MikeBlock LOL a fair reply! LOL

@roryleitch1550 6 ай бұрын

Hey Mike! Wonderful playing. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that TWO10 ul is mine. I'm selling one on consignment at Paul's shop right now. You should buy it!

@MikeBlock 6 ай бұрын

Small world! I’m super happy with my Keilwerth Shadow and would have to trade it in to afford a new horn. Your Yani plays wonderfully though and the unlacquered adds a nice touch. It’s going to look amazing once it develops a patina. I’m sure you will find a buyer! Please feel free to share this video if it helps to sell the horn.!

@matsmanteatern698 6 ай бұрын

At a first listening I preferred the more focused sound of the Yani. It sounded more Mark VI -like, and as you stated; focused. With the second listening I felt they were just.. different.. both had their own quality, sort of. I play a Mark VI but have tried out some Yanis in my local music store. Their keywork is really excellent, and hard to beat! I very much preferred the WO20 in bronze over the WO10 when I tried both. The feel and sound from a players perspective is always bigger than what the listener gets, I think. That said, it’s of course very important that the player get the best possible response and feel from the horn he/she uses.

@IlanAisic 6 ай бұрын

I also prefer the Keilwerth. I actually own one... However, you've compared horns from a different price range. The Yani TWO10 costs about 2/3 than the KJ Shadow. Yanagisaw has a range of tenors some are in the same price range as the KJ Shadow and some are more and much more expensive. I wonder if the price difference really matters much in the sound.

@MikeBlock 6 ай бұрын

Yes, I was hoping they had a T-WO35 Tenor but this was really the only pro Yani tenor they had in stock. For something more comparable, check out my Shadow VS Selmer Supreme Video!

@matthewostlund8891 6 ай бұрын

Keilwerth sounded fatter and better tone imo.

@darine.3145 6 ай бұрын

Well, that Shure KSM-32 is a side-address mic...anyway I was surprised at the sound of the Keilworth, being less Couf-like than I expected.

@MikeBlock 6 ай бұрын

KeilwErth

@zvonimirtosic6171 Ай бұрын

One cam immediately hear the difference the rounded tone holes make. Easier to control dynamics, lush subtone, completely 3D feel to the sound.

@tonytramonti5828 2 ай бұрын

I prefer the Yani Gee Sour

@drope-wx5ho 6 ай бұрын

yanagisawa the sound more complex

@awesomeblessings9659 6 ай бұрын

Surprised you didn't compare with TW01 post construction

@MikeBlock 6 ай бұрын

I don’t think they had one in stock

@andreasgilgenberg5588 4 ай бұрын

both horns sound great, but i prefer the keilwerth it has more character

@Tracksafe Ай бұрын

I’d say the mouthpiece wasn’t appropriate for the Yanagisawa. Any saxophone can be made to sound dull. It’s not necessarily a reflection of the saxophone.

@vosborne945 6 ай бұрын

You say the Yani is much more resistant and less free blowing…but then you say it’s easier to blow down through the lower register than the KW? Explain please?

@MikeBlock 6 ай бұрын

Free blowing means that it takes more air to produce notes but often creates a fuller and more diffuse sound. Resistant requires less air but often results in a more focused tone. So in the more resistant horn, it requires less overall volume of air to get low notes to speak.