Choosing between the Canon PRO-200 or PRO-300 13" desktop photo printers

[@danr7708]

I almost got the 200 but went for the 300 because I want to sell prints of artwork (watercolors and oil paintings). I want the quality control that comes with printing my own. I got it last week and am thrilled with the results (after a bit of experimenting and endless reading about paper and color spaces etc.) The 200 was the high end of what I wanted to spend, so stretched that to buy the 300; the 1000 would have been too much of a leap for me. Thanks for these great videos.

[@KeithCooper]

Glad to hear they were of help! Do check the articles as well, since that's where the more detailed stuff goes.

[@jenniferkoistinen5586]

Curious why you believe the 300 is better for watercolor prints? I am looking for a printer to make watercolor fine art prints. Thanks

[@danr7708]

@@jenniferkoistinen5586 based on reviews it struck me that the print quality of the 200 and 300 would be pretty similar. But I liked that the 300 uses pigment inks so would last longer. Not that I expect people to keep my prints for 100 years but that sort of long term quality is, I think, a good selling point. I’m very happy with the quality, and find I get much better results with the Canon software than photoshop or Lightroom. I also highly recommend the Canon V600 scanner.

[@jenniferkoistinen5586]

@@danr7708 Thanks so much for your reply Diane!

[@randolphvacchi1933]

Very impressed with this video. Extremely unbiased, detailed, and comprehensive. Wish others would have a similar production and presentation standard.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks very much - much appreciated.

[@netlawman2001]

I have both the Pro 200 (dye ink) and the pro 1000 (larger version of the pigment ink pro 300). My take is that one is not better than the other. I select printer (i.e., ink type) based on the paper and the paper based on the image (smoothness/texture/warmth/weight). For anything that is glossy, without a doubt, the pro 200 results are preferable. For example, Pictorico High Gloss White Film, which is my favorite glossy paper and is a professional paper with no rival, makes the most astonishing glossy prints with dye, but prints are dull and lifeless (with a clay-like surface) when printed with pigment. If I remember correctly, this is because the dye seeps into the paper underneath the gloss finish (thereby preserving it), and the pigment sits on top of the gloss (blocking it). I assume it is not a big deal with satin papers because it is the sheen and not the gloss that you see. Yes there is chroma optimizer on the pro 300/1000, but that applies the same type of gloss to every paper, even when they have different types of gloss. Moreover, it kills the uniqueness of the gloss of a paper like pictorico HGWF. For mattes, I tend to use the pro 300/1000 (but have begun experimenting with the pro 200 for the deeper blacks and richer colors). I hadn’t thought about black and white. That will be interesting to test. For barytas and other satin “in the middle” papers, it really depends on the paper. Some, like Ilford Gold Fiber Silk are designed specifically for pigment, and don’t print very well on Dye. The same for many Canson satin papers like Platine Fibre Rag which they say on their website are intended for use with pigment. Others, like those from Hahnemhule are designed to work with both dye and pigment, and my tests have shown that it simply varies by paper, and the only way to know is to test. In some cases it’s just the depth of black that is the difference. Canon brand papers tend to work equally well on dye and pigment. Finally, short of selling prints where “100 years” is a necessary selling point, I no longer find the longevity issue to be a factor in selecting a pigment vs dye printer. Today’s dye printers are far better than older ones, and I have 15 year old dye prints, printed largely on Pictorico high gloss white film on really old Epson dye printer models (think Epson 1200) that are displayed without glass, and look as good as they did back then. If I need to reprint in 30 years, I will 😀. Bottom line is that depending upon your use case you have two great options in the Pro 200 and Pro 300. You just have to figure out what works for your style.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks for the lengthy comment, which I'd agree with. It really is a matter of what works best for what you want. A 17" dye based printer would be an interesting option...

[@netlawman2001]

@@KeithCooper Thanks. I just made a few edits to my original reply (sorry). I would really love to see you use Pictorico HGWF in one of your tests. Glossy often gets a bad rap, but HGWF is truly unique and reminds me that glossy can be used for professional work, not just pharmacy snap shots. Nothing compares and in 15 years, I have found nothing that can be used as a substitute. It is a question of the gloss (pinpoint reflections), resolution, color gamut, and the fact that it is a film and not paper). If it is a glossy print that will be hung on a wall, HGWF is the only paper I use. My biggest fear is that Mitsubishi Imaging will stop making it.

[@netlawman2001]

@@KeithCooper I totally agree. A 17” dye printer would be an amazing option. It is a shame that the industry is pushing pigment as the “professional” choice and dye as the “consumer” choice. I mentioned in my replies that I have been printing for 15 years. What I didn’t mention is how frustrated I had become over the last 6 or 7 years. This is because I had moved up to ‘professional’ model printers, yet I could never get prints that satisfied me the way they had in the past (I don’t always want a luster sheen or Barayta paper). It got so bad that I was ready to give up printing. Then I saw your video review of the Pro-200 and it clicked. The issue all along was a mismatch between the papers I often use and the printer technology I had selected. In pushing people towards “professional models”, all of which are pigment, the industry left out the fact that pigment is a good match for some paper types, but not others. I feel too much weight is given to longevity, with little focus on paper type compatibility. To me, longevity doesn’t matter if the image quality has to be compromised. The rest is history. I am a really happy camper again, even if was forced to have two printers 😀

[@KeithCooper]

@@netlawman2001 I'm afraid I've never seen that paper here in the UK?

[@netlawman2001]

@@KeithCooper here is the Mitsubishi link. Not sure if you ever order from BH or Adorama, but I also suspect they have UK distributors. www.mitsubishiimaging.com/pictorico-white-film.html

[@clairemacnamaraphotographe]

Thank you very much. Brilliant video, I now know the pro 300 fits my needs as a family photographer who wants to provide long last prints for my clients.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - Glad it was helpful! All my PRO-300 info can be found via the main [written] review at www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pro-300-printer-review/

[@BuckRogers2000]

I learned a new term today, "Gloss Differential". I already purchased a different brand printer. Your content is worth the foray into other brands. Keep up the GREAT work!!

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - glad to help!

[@hannahscherba]

thank you so much for making this video, helping me make the decision to go with the 200 for my newly founded greeting card business.

[@KeithCooper]

Glad it helped!

[@macwestcanon]

Based on your video on this I purchased a Canon 200 2 years ago , I absolutly love it, problem free performance and the prints are beautiful also Canons professional layout software is excellent. Thanks,Mac

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - glad to have helped

[@stevem_photo3174]

Super detail in the article etc - I also have my PRO-200 on order. - much appreciate the work you put into all the reviews and info on printing - many thanks

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - glad it's been of help

[@stevem_photo3174]

in fact.. i just changed my order to a 300 - having rewatched several of your videos.. lol

[@KeithCooper]

@@stevem_photo3174 ah... they just keep on giving :-) :-)

[@farhad2839]

Hi Keith, thank you for the Video. Which printer do you recommend for printing DIN A3 colored photos? Is it possible to print with pro 200 borderless DIN A3 Papers? Which printers use less ink? Many thanks.

[@Conor_Lumsden]

Going to go with the 200 for my design work after watching this! Thank you!

[@KeithCooper]

Excellent - Glad it's been of help Do have a look at the review and articles on the Northlight web site as well, there's more detail in the written stuff. www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pro-200-printer-review/

[@sl2608]

Conor Lumsden: Great choice! Do you sell your work that is done on the 200? Do you have any concerns about longevity/fade resistance? I can't afford a pigment ink printer or the inks, but I do sell my prints that use the Canon Chromalife 100+ inks and I print on cotton acid free paper. I want to be ethical and offer my customers prints that will last at least 50 years. I know pigment would have the longest life, but are Chromalife 100+ prints on acid-free paper good enough to sell in good conscience, knowing their longevity is less than pigment inks? I struggle with this question.

[@steved5683]

Hi Keith great video,Iam a photographer part time and have just ordered the 300 for a great price of £440 brand new i cant wait to print my photos to sell and give for presents and to display in my home.

[@KeithCooper]

Hope it goes well!

[@ThePhiloctopus]

Here is it boys and girls, the video we've all been waiting for! In my country the prices are PRO-200 ($800), PRO-300 ($1,000), and PRO-1000 ($1,700). The 300 is looking quite tempting. Thanks Keith!

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - the prices are the one bit I can't address, given the wide variations in different markets

[@ThePhiloctopus]

@@KeithCooper Yep I completely understand. I've been following along with this video series and it's helped clarify my thinking. For example I don't think I even like glossy photos, so there isn't much compelling me towards the 200. And since this is a hobby the A2 printer is a bit more of a committment than I'm ready to make right now. thanks again for you excellent videos and (especially) your articles!

[@sl2608]

Which country are you in? Prices in the US are $200 less for Pro-200 ($600). Less for the others as well: Pro-300 ($900), Prograf 1000 ($1300). Still a pretty good difference between the Pro-200 and Pro-300 of $300, plus more expense due to more ink cartridges and higher priced ones.

[@LTartworkx]

I find that the 200 is quite powerful, I print 11x17 and 13x19 colored illustrations and blk & white for my art commissions. the 200 definitely does the job. Im very glad I went with the pixma 200.

[@KeithCooper]

Yes, I was very pleased with the test results I got.

[@moealyasini2784]

How is the ink usage and cost after a year ?

[@youssefhamidi8152]

I purchased the 200 based on your review and I found it makes incredible prints. Much better than what I was able to get from online print services.

[@KeithCooper]

Great to hear - glad it's worked so well for you!

[@tomallen6073]

With current pricing in the states the ink cartridge pricing per milliliter is the same between the pro 300 and the pro1000. I did the math.

[@KeithCooper]

Yes -it varies so much over time and in different regions that I always leave the maths to the viewer/reader ;-)

[@nazlibrush]

it was a great video. I was confused until I have seen your videos. I am going to get a printer for my small art print business and I will go with pro-200. Thank you for all the details!

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - Glad it was helpful!

[@peachdreams]

Do you find any issue with prints fading over time? or is it okay? :)

[@4KWalking]

I just bought the 200 and now waiting for it to arrive. Thank you for your good explanation!

[@KeithCooper]

Hope you enjoy it! - there are lots of videos, and the more detailed articles on the Northlight Image site.

[@j.edwardrobinson1552]

Thanks... an excellent review of the differences. I actually purchased the 300; and think I made the right decision. Now I will begin the process of setting it up.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - glad it was of interest!

[@SuperManning11]

This was very helpful! Thanks! I usually just default to what seems to be the best, but after seeing this, I’m fairly sure the 200 will more than meet my needs. I appreciate the great reviews and comparisons!

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - the 200 is a good printer

[@paulwhite9460]

Thank you for you very helpful video. I particularly want to congratulate you on your presenting skill’s; very natural. Blessings.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - glad it's of use!

[@remccarthy2898]

Thank you Keith for putting out this video. I've been wanting to pick up a photo printer for a long time. I purchased the 200 and love it. I did do some black and white printing and they came out wonderful. I'm very happy with my purchase and thank you for helping me decide which one. Keep up the good videos, your experience and knowledge on the subject is very helpful.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - glad it was of help!

[@68arclight]

Hi Keith. Once again a really good review. Thanks for your balanced insights and valuable information. I have the Pro 300 and it is outstanding for what I require. Keep up the great work you do.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks for letting me know

[@kevingoza]

Well done. Best comparison I’ve seen of these two.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks

[@jpm74]

Love my 200! Got it two weeks ago. Amazing printer for a great price!

[@KeithCooper]

Yes - for certain types and uses of prints it would be my choice.

[@DalsPhotography]

What an excellent class you gave us! Even for selling here people would go with the 200 , due to the high costs inks have down here, as well as shipping, customs etc costs. Thank you very much, you helped me a lot! Best wishes from Uruguay.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - glad to be of help!

[@DalsPhotography]

@@KeithCooper thanks to you! I was looking up in my country, and unfortunately not even the pro 200 is for sale here. Looked in Adorama store, the ink replacement package is quite expensive! For personal use, and showcase in some showrooms here, I guess that in the end it's more user friendly to find a store in the capital (Montevideo from which I live quite far) and work with them... too bad we are soooo slow at these stuff. Thank you again you are so nice explaining things. Bless you and your family , best form Uruguay.

[@Maria-ue2nb]

El coste de tinta es mayor con la 300?

[@smitasinhal1660]

Thank you for this informative video Keith. I went with Pro 200 after watching . Its on its way to me.

[@KeithCooper]

Excellent - If you want any of the profiles mentioned in the main [written] review, let me know

[@smitasinhal1660]

@@KeithCooper sure thing . Many thanks for offering this. It's very kind of you.

[@rangersmith4652]

I'm going Pro-200. I'll be displaying my prints, some color and some B&W, in my home and office. I will not be selling any. For my purpose, the pigment ink vs. the dye-ink is not going to be worth $300 more plus more when it's time for ink. I fully concur with Keith's analysis; if you want to go pigment-based, pop for the Pro-1000. Currently there's a bigger price gap between the 200 and 300 (499 to 799 USD) than the 300 and 1000 (799 to 999 USD). I can see a good argument for a pro to have a 200 and a 1000.

[@KeithCooper]

Yes - On the right papers, some prints on the 200 can almost look like transparencies. I'd like to see a 'pro' level dye ink printer, but the 'pigment=pro' marketing impetus won't allow that :-(

[@audiotinker]

Can you do heavier papers or canvas prints with these?

[@KeithCooper]

Yes - see the specific reviews I wrote www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pro-300-printer-review/ www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pro-200-printer-review/

[@nnix]

Really appreciate the details. Have never purchased a printer for photographic work before.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - do check the main written reviews as well, that's where all the details go...

[@SamJRizzo]

Great video! Thank you so much Keith for reviewing these and helping me make my decision between these printers!

[@KeithCooper]

Excellent - enjoy your printing!

[@JohnPepp]

As a wildlife photographer I went with the pro-300 as vibrant colors are not that important to me as birds and other wildlife I want their color to standout on it's on. Besides have used the pro-300 for a little bit I notice the pro-300 isn't too shabby and I like the fact that the prints will last longer even though I won't be around to see them.

[@KeithCooper]

Yes - my general choice would be the pigment printer

[@lumenspaul]

just purchased the 300 pro ,although i love printing gloss ,i feel the B&W options on the 300 will be beneficial also most of my camera club prints are on lustre types and eventually want to do some fine art prints ,but the difference is very slight on these printers ,except the price fingers crossed print inks become cheaper the old pro 10s can be had for £10 ,anyway i was almost 50/50 with the epson p700 and the canon ,but i expect the blacks to be deeper on the canon .

[@christina413]

Great review! Thank you for such a detailed explanation. Upon finishing your video I’ve decided to go ahead and purchase the 200. Now let’s just see when the ink will be available since on amazon many say backordered. Once again, thank you!

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - Canon here in the UK say that there will be supply issues for a while yet. I still have the 300 here which can't be used at the moment for testing as I couldn't get any grey ink.

[@MWesley111]

Thank you for sending me this way, I am going to pair one of these printers with a new computer, Mac is so simply but I respect your knowledge, my brain is so full of info I need some direction, I mostly need it for Large Family portraits & pictures on the wall, not much info on pairing computers with printer.

[@KeithCooper]

There is no specific computerprinter pairing as such? Both printers work just fine with Mac or PC - it depends on what photo editing software you use and what you are familiar with. The key is the printer function, or cost, or whatever aspects are important for you. For print cost for example see www.redrivercatalog.com/rr/cost-of-inkjet-printing.html

[@winorobek]

Keep it up, great work, I checked the reviews, I watched the videos, it helps A LOT, thank you man, that is really helpfully. It's not easy to find something valuable about this on youtube ;) I'm still searching, but I'm much closer!

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks!

[@kore996]

If you need to use these printers for “office or school” printing, are they drastically more expensive than a regular colour printing when it comes to ink costs because they are using photo quality inks? We do have a black and white laser printer for all text related printing.

[@KeithCooper]

Oh yes - these are not for 'office use'...

[@haydeedelarosa6475]

Thank you Keith excellent video!!! I recently purchased the Canon 200 printer, good prints the problem is when I print the fonts, they are blurry, blurry. No matter what, I'm using Illustrator, Indesign and using high quality press and still, can you give me any advice?

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks, but what is 'high quality press'? The printer needs inkjet specific papers...

[@theoasim]

Hello. Which of them mostly for deep (solid) black on Transparent Film for Screen Printing? Thanks!

[@KeithCooper]

You need to ask on a specialist forum covering this - the 300 with pigments is likely better, but I don't know for sure

[@mikesensier3656]

Informative video...as I've been leaning toward the pro-200 for the last few weeks but now after watching this it looks like the pro-300 is top again, basically for the sole reason of that I will be printing on luster and baryta papers and not so much full gloss. Its a shame really as I don't need the extra quality for archival and exhibition work. Once again thanks for the time and effect you put into these articles and videos, always appreciated.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - yes the 200 excels at glossy and matte art papers for matte. It's partly because many of the newer high end papers were specifically designed for pigment ink performance, and the lustre/semi-gloss look matches the surface sheen of the inks.

[@kore996]

When you’re talking about a slight spots of gloss differential on prints…is that noticeable if the photo is framed and behind glass?

[@KeithCooper]

Only if you know what to look for and get the light at the right angle... I notice it because I test printers - I'd not make much money if I bet on most people seeing it...

[@terrynewmanphotography]

Thanks for this video. Printing landscape shots for me and got a growing interest in the 300.

[@KeithCooper]

Yes, a very capable printer.

[@terrynewmanphotography]

@@KeithCooper For many advanced hobbyists which is how I’d describe myself, we really want the 1000 (and have a form of pre-purchase buyers remorse causing angst now as we eye up the 300!) but worry about the repercussions of lower frequency printing if we plunge for the 1000.

[@KeithCooper]

Yes, that is a valid concern - the 1000 uses more ink in keeping going and benefits from more regular use. It's not a surprise to previous users of large format printers, but is often a shock to people used to small desktop printers. When the 1000 does get replaced I'll be giving this aspect a deeper study (BTW, the Epson P900 doesn't use nearly as much ink for maintenance, so it is related to design decisions)

[@fgriffintx]

Outstanding video! Thank YOU for putting all the time and energy into producing the videos and the written reviews. So now I am vacillating between the 200 and the 1000. Not so much for archival quality, but for the potential advantage of larger paper on the 1000.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - glad they are of interest! The 1000 still has the best sheet paper handling of any desktop printer i've tested

[@CassidyHansen]

This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you very much!!

[@KeithCooper]

Glad it was of help

Firstly, lots of thanks for your fantastic videos about Canon Pro-200 and Pro-300. As you say, choosing only one of them is very difficult and I've been having real doubts over the last month. Finally, I've just purchased The P-300. Why? mainly because I love B&W photos and it seems the prints are better on that one, truly neutral and even easier to get them look like what I see on the screen. Secondly, I hardly use bright-glossy papers. I also calculated the cost of printing up to 100 A3+ on the Pro-200 and Pro-300. According with Canon data about how many A3+ you can get with every cartridge and, although the P300 has 2 more inks, the final cost for each sheet will be pretty the same (2.43 vs 2.58€ ) thanks to a cheaper cartridge price (20,49 vs 19,49€) and more content (12,6 vs 14,4ml). So, it seems that, apart from the purchase, there will be no more extra maintenance cost on the Pro300 vs the Pro200 while its better prints will remain there. That said, I know the Pro-1000 is over there and maybe your are right when saying the choosing should be between the 200 and the 1000, but now I'm going to start to print seriously at home for the first time and I'm not sure whether I will need or wish printing bigger than A3+ sheets. However, if I finally regret myself having bought the Pro-300 instead the Pro-1000 it will be because I will have been printing a lot and I will want more and bigger prints what will be a good news, moreover, who knows, maybe by then the Pro-2000 will have been launched. Thanks again for your videos, they really help.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks for your lengthy answer - you pretty much sum up my own concerns about how to choose. PS there already is a PRO-2000 - it's a 24" printer I reviewed a while ago, very nice , but big www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-imageprograf-pro-2000-printer-review/ Currently it's the PRO-2100, which is pretty similar. The PRO-1000 is much closer in design (ink/heads) to the larger printers. No sign yet of a PRO-1000 replacement :-(

@@KeithCooper I didn't know that, though I'm sure you understood I meant a replacement of the Pro 1000. Many thanks for being there answering so quickly

[@KeithCooper]

Yes, I'd assumed that. The large format printers are of relevance though, since the 1000 can be thought of as much more closely related to them. There is also the matter of the old iPF5100 - a 17 inch printer that had roll support and a paper cassette. It was never updated as the larger printers were and means that there is a gap in the range - Epson fills this with the rather nice P5000 (paper cutter and powered roll unit) and P900 I'm minded to think there is possibly room for two 17" replacements for the PRO-1000 - three if Canon decided to be serious about what their dye inks could achieve...

[@sveinskogen1789]

So, the Dye is still supreme on superglossy, while the Pigments give a wider gamut. And Dyes are better for skin tones and Pigments for Landscapes. I usually print on Luster paper ("Semigloss"). Of people in landscapes. And I just poofed my Pixma 9000mkII (that has served me since its release). Do I go for the 200 or splurge on the 300?

[@KeithCooper]

Dyes better for skin tones? - I'd say that depends on the quality of profiling, but I'm not a people photographer, so it's what you like the best ;-) Unless you really want the ultra gloss, I'd say the 300 gets the nod most times...

[@sveinskogen1789]

@@KeithCooper Thank you for something rare: A clear answer. And I do know that the profile makes a lot of the difference (I calibrate using my "Good Old" Colormunki Photo with the new i1-Studio software, and have used that process since I got the 9000mk2). Now I just need to get the wife acceptance factor for the 300 over the 200. Here in Norway the price difference is NOK5400 vs NOK8000, so one is 48% more expensive than the other...

[@sveinskogen1789]

Minor followup: I ended up getting the Pro-300 safely installed as my 9000mkII replacement. And frankly I'm very happy with it. But I do have one question for those of you who are probably way more professional than me, etc. Printing workflow. My current workflow is that images selected for print, gets exported from Capture One as PSD, then printed in Photoshop CC via the Canon plugin there. Would it make any sense to change this workflow into something like exporting tiff and buying Dimax Mirage, or is the potential gains from that so small it doesn't justify the added cost (and added risk of compatibility issues from adding more software on my workstation)?

[@KeithCooper]

@@sveinskogen1789 I've used Mirage in the past - it's good, but you need to have definite reasons for using it Most uses of it are for workflow reasons, such as multi print layout. I'll have another look some time, but here's my review on the PRO-2000 (it feels like software for BIG printers, not desktop ones) www.northlight-images.co.uk/mirage-print-software/

[@sveinskogen1789]

So not really worth the expense if panostitches are once a year things?

[@sjrailton]

Thank you for an awesome video!! What is the speed of the A3 or A4 print like? On the site its states 1minute 30 seconds but is this accurate? Kindly advise, thank you.

[@KeithCooper]

it's not wildly wrong - TBH I rarely ever make a note of such times when I'm testing. It's something which can vary (borders for example) so I only note if the figures in the specs seem obviously wrong.

[@sjrailton]

@@KeithCooper thank you for making the time to respond to my comment!! Your channel is amazing!! Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge

[@vladimirpayusov3848]

Thank you for answering. Does Canon image Prograf Pro-1000 work for 16 pt cardstock (350 gsm)? Or what printer works well for 16 pt postcards printing?

[@KeithCooper]

It needs card designed for inkjet use No idea about the card stock - is it made for inkjet printing To repeat, no printer I've tested [that goes back over 15 years in the articles - long before my videos] will print postcard robust enough for handling - that is a job for commercial print...

[@echoblufftimelapses3476]

Keith, thank you for your explanations on printers. I appreciate all of your trials, expertise and explanations! I am considering upgrading my old PIXMA Pro 100 with the hopes of trying my hand selling photo greeting cards at a farmers market next summer. If the updated Pro 1000 comes out, I will be very tempted to go that way. If I decide to get one sooner, do you have thoughts on which of the 200 vs 300 would do a better job handling foldable photo cards? Thanks very much!

[@KeithCooper]

Both 200 and 300 have essentially the same paper feed. If the inks work well on a media it's about cost of printing - these figures suggest the 200?? www.redrivercatalog.com/rr/cost-of-inkjet-printing.html

[@CarlosLemans]

I saw in several reviews from people that both have the same issue, problems with paper size detection, I was near to buy one but the paper size issue stopped my decision

[@KeithCooper]

What paper size detection problem? Are these reliable reviews or the sort of stuff you find on Amazon... ;-)

[@johnvaleanbaily4859]

I recently bought the 300 and I am amazed by the by the colour output. Worth the extra cost.

[@KeithCooper]

It is good, especially on some papers where the 200 has a reduced performance. However for bright glossy colour (if you need that) then the 200 has the edge. The 300 is what I'd use to show and sell my work, whilst the 200 is what I'd use for the prints in a portfolio presentation, where instant impact matters.

[@paperbackfreigther9528]

@@KeithCooper Portfolio presentation and the 200: for colour, and would say for b&w too, Keith? And thanks for your amazing reviews.

[@KeithCooper]

Maybe only B&W if I knew what light it was gong to be looked at under. Depends on how picky the person viewing the prints is ;-) If it was a B&W portfolio I'd do it with pigment inks (...and a bigger printer) The 200 is probably weakest on some of the really nice Baryta papers I like for B&W The paper that most impressed me in the 'presentation' area would be the metallic gloss I show in the PRO-200 review video Glad the reviews are of interest - I could do with some 'real work' but these keep me active...

[@paperbackfreigther9528]

@@KeithCooper Very precious infos you are sharing here! Thank you. The same for your videos and articles. Everything is well explained and the "grey zones" well covered. I too am waiting for things to get back to a certain form of normality. We'll get there... with a little bit of patience, I guess. Cheers! from Sherbrooke, Québec, Canada.

[@geoffsalisbury9285]

Thanks Keith, very insightful !

[@KeithCooper]

Glad it was of interest

[@ilonaellsworth5486]

Thank you so much for your INVALUABLE INFORMATION! The “YOUS” of the world {the ones who DO the work, push up their sleeves…. sweat it out in the trenches… assimilate the experiences and experiments} you are the cultivators gatekeepers of something that only the doers are adorned perhaps burdened with? WISDOM… something that can NEVER WILL NEVER BE BOUGHT! SHARED yes bought no…. THANK YOU for your footwork and for clearing a path for those of us who are lucky enough to have read this. I suppose the “YOUS” of the world are the TEACHERS… who care. Sincerely, thank you

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - much appreciated!

[@peachdreams]

Hi Keith, I was wondering about the VOCs produced when printing between the Pro200 and the Pro300? Are dye inks or pigment inks more toxic to print with? thanks for your amazing content :) Also, I can only find information that pigment ink has better longevity over dye ink, but in regards to these two printers, what is the 200's longevity of colour? It's hard to find anything about how long they should be fade resistant (as a product sold as a print to be put on the wall inside someone's home). I understand pigment is better, but does the 200 work at all or will they all fade in a matter of months.. I don't think I can afford a pigment printer right now but would like to at least get the Pro 200 and sell some prints.. or is that not okay due to fading (I have no idea how bad fading is, it's so hard to find anything on this subject in specific detail). Would the Pro 200 print a nice enough art print on matte paper?

[@KeithCooper]

I've no idea about this - the companies do have chemical safety sheets for their inks, but not something I study. It is one of the reasons I don't like sprays and coatings for prints.

[@kerry3789]

Hi. Thank you for the video. Do you recommend a particular one for greeting cards?

[@KeithCooper]

Quality wise they are fairly good for this - paper handling is identical The 200 ink costs are a bit lower, see www.redrivercatalog.com/rr/cost-of-inkjet-printing.html This may make a difference in a low margin sales ares like cards? Both do need card that is meant for inkjet use though

[@simonkeslake2782]

Hi. I have had a Pro300 for past 6 months and loving it. Just a quick question, yesterday I stupidly for the first time I put some lustre paper the wrong side in printer. To my horror the print obviously came out completely wet! I printed another print immediately the correct way round and it seemed to be fine. My question is will there be a problem inside the printer with the wet ink from the bad print? Perhaps ink getting on exit rollers or somewhere else? My prints seem ok it’s just I’m worried that there could be lasting damage or problems ahead with my expensive printer! Maybe I’m worrying too much as it’s the one and only time I have done it. Any reassurance would be most grateful!! Simon

[@KeithCooper]

Yes, done that... :-) I just ran a sheet of plain copier paper through to see if there were any inks on the rollers - nothing showed up. I've also taken a sheet of fairly thick plain paper, >>lightly

[@waltert4477]

I believe I'd print far more color photos than black and white, but the archival print quality draws me towards the 300. Is the 200 better print quality when it comes to gloss, semi gloss, and matte color prints? Does the 200 have THAT much more vividness in color?

[@KeithCooper]

no it doesn't - on some glossy media the gloss is better with dye, but when you go to most other papers, the 300 pulls ahead. The dye excels on a few glossy papers - the 300 on most other and definitely for B&W For real detail see my main [written] 200/300 reviws

[@fseq]

You helped me with my choice here. Great video.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks!

[@erenlimsg]

Hi 👋, may I know which do you think is better? The Canon pro 200 compare to the Epson ET L18050

[@KeithCooper]

No - I'm afraid 'better' is only relevant in relation to your precise needs and their relative importance, so I cannot answer in any general way. See here for which features differ - you will have to decide which matters www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-18100-printer-review/ www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pro-200-printer-review/

[@SL-jo4om]

Brilliant! Thank you. Will have a look at your reviews.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - the real detail always goes into the written articles

[@eliasali9383]

You described exactly why I want to print, "nice shiny bright colors that look nice" Looks like the pro 200 fits my needs just fine. Thank you for the comparison 🙏🏼

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - not a technical colour management term, but it makes the point ;-)

[@kingwills63]

I have Canon Pro-500. Can Canon pro500 use the same ink as Canon pro 1000? What's the difference between them?

[@KeithCooper]

I've never heard of that printer... What region/market is it from?

[@cosmingheorghe_]

Hello! I have a canon PRO 300 that displays error 5B00. I contacted a service, and the people there told me that there was nothing more I could do. Can I still solve this problem? Thank you!

[@KeithCooper]

Ask here www.printerknowledge.com

[@cosmingheorghe_]

@@KeithCooper Thank you!

[@davide7081]

Thanks Keith. For a colour print on a bright white lustre photo paper like Permajet Oyster 271 or Pinnacle Premium Lustre Paper, if longevity is not an issue, is there much to choose between the 200 and 300? I can see the 300 has a wider gamut in greens/blues on various ICC profiles, but possibly even on lustre paper the 200 might be more vibrant? Thanks!

[@KeithCooper]

Some papers definitely do look better with the 200 - well some images... Where I'd likely pick the 200 is for prints with some of the glossy metallic papers I tested (see the written review)

[@davide7081]

@@KeithCooper Thanks - the 200 definitely does look better for really glossy colour prints, but I wasn't so sure what you thought about lustre colour prints (particularly cheaper non-baryta lustre papers) and whether you'd pick the 200 or 300 or not mind? Thank you.

[@KeithCooper]

very paper and image dependent, but probably the 300 and definitely for B&W

[@JeniaBushby]

Hello Keith. Thank you for such an informative video. I am just starting my wedding stationery business and for the beginning planing to print my works at home (it will mostly be black ink text on textured, vellum and cotton paper roughly 300gsm more or less, envelope printing and pattern printing). I originally wanted to go for pro300, but after watching your video, looks like pro200 will be enough for my needs. What would you say? Thank you an advance for your answer.

[@KeithCooper]

Neither are what I'd look at if you expect any volume printing - since you can't stack much paper and there is no output stacking. The small ink-carts don't make for cheap printing. If the paper is not specifically for inkjet use you may not get the crisp text you want - remember you generally decide on paper after the printer. Pigment inks may well work better on the papers - without testing it's difficult to know For what you want the ET-8550 may be more suited and certainly cheaper to run See here and the linked info/videos. www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/

[@JeniaBushby]

@@KeithCooper Thank you very much for your reply. Will have a look for more information

[@waltert4477]

If the 300 has better black and white, why do people say the 200 has deeper blacks? I found that the 300 has a truer rendition of black while the 200 has a bluish hugh to the black. If I print in color on semi matte finish is it just as good as the 200? Other than black and white, does the 300 pull ahead anywhere else?

[@KeithCooper]

Ah, do these 'people' have any data or measurements to back up their assertions? I have test data in my [written] reviews which shows some of the weaknesses of black dye inks. There is vastly more to good B&W than the perceived 'depth' of black... ;-) The 300 has a wider range of ink colours and its prints will last longer ;-)

[@ricardoguerra5131]

Thanks for your video. I have a question: What is the max paper size the support both printer?, A3+?. Thanks in advance

[@KeithCooper]

13" width - so 13" x 19" sheet [A3+]

[@ЯрославЯрослав-я3э]

Hi! Thank you for your video. I’m thinking to buy pro 300 or pro 10s. Which one would you recommend? Which one is not so expensive to use and which printer makes better photos?

[@KeithCooper]

The PRO-10 has been superseded by the PRO-300 I much prefer the PRO-300 - see the main [written] review for more

[@ЯрославЯрослав-я3э]

@@KeithCooper thank you. I’ve heard that the colors for this Canon printer are very expensive. Considering now Epsom L850, which is more economical.

[@KeithCooper]

I'd not call them very expensive, but of course, that's for me in the UK - I've no idea anywhere else... The L850 is a totally different printer - nowhere near the print quality of the pro-300. It's a small (A4) home/office printer - simply not a comparable product.

[@ЯрославЯрослав-я3э]

@@KeithCooper probably I'll go for pro 300. I want to make exeptional photos.

[@joyaclub]

Would you recommend either for more graphic illustrative type work? So a lot of areas of solid colour. Thanks, I find your videos very informative.

[@KeithCooper]

I genuinely don't know - it's not the sort of printing I ever test. There's no reason I can think of why one would necessarily be better, but that's just a hunch.

[@santosdiego]

Keith, I mentioned before and I'll mention again: you have the best channel for printing enthusiasts. I have a question about the PRO-200 but I'm pretty sure that applies to the PRO-300 as well: is there a way to select a baryta profile that's loaded on the top feeder? I can see that the profile is properly installed but can only select for the back feeder.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks! ...Let's hope some more people find it ;-) Well, when I profiled a baryta paper I used the proLuster media setting. Baryta is one paper type that is perhaps not at its best on the PRO-200 compared to the 300, although I only had a limited range to test Do see the written PRO-200 articles as well, since the written stuff is always where the details go. There are various restrictions with different media choices - One way to explore this is to play around with the media config tool and look at installed media and options in the driver. I do recall wondering why I couldn't use some combinations during testing, but don't have a written list.

[@BEATRIZMAG1111]

Can be printed both sides? Duplex print

[@KeithCooper]

no auto duplex - you only get that on office type printers. You can of course reverse a print and re-print, but there are relatively few double sided papers and you run the risk of the feed damaging the first page if not properly dried.

[@BEATRIZMAG1111]

@@KeithCooper thank you so much for answering my question. So appreciate

[@jamjars5444]

Hi Keith, thanks for the review. I am primarily interested in getting one of these printers for HTV (vinyl heat applications for clothing) but am very interested in the photograhical results these also yield. Do you know if these are good for HTV or not? I know it's maybe not your area of interest (being an architect and all) but just thought I'd chance it and ask anyway. TIA

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - indeed, not an area of my expertise. I've heard of people using third party inks for similar applications, but it's not an area I personally know of.

[@jamjars5444]

@@KeithCooper Alright man thanks for the reply anyway

[@HelenaJohansson]

Thank You! Now I know that the 200 is the right printer for me :)

[@KeithCooper]

Glad I could help!

[@vladimirpayusov3848]

Hello! Could you please help to make a choice what printer is good for 16 pt matte cardstock postcards printing? I want to print postcards for selling. Thank you!

[@KeithCooper]

Nothing I've tested is robust enough for that use [actual postcards]. Also "16pt cardstock" is a commercial print terminology, suggesting the media is unlikely to be suitable for inkjet use. For either the PRO-200 or 300, you need media meant specifically for inkjet use.

[@vladimirpayusov3848]

@@KeithCooper Thank you for answering. Does Canon image Prograf Pro-1000 work for 16 pt cardstock (350 gsm)? Or what printer works well for 16 pt postcards printing?

[@orangesuite]

Hi! Please can you tell if the 300 can do a "good job" printing cheap uncoated paper? Looking for some business card and tags project on heavy paper. Thanks.

[@KeithCooper]

No - no desktop inkjet printer does a good job on cheap uncoated paper

[@ZippyScooter]

Hi Keith, Thanks for the video. Well done indeed. Which printer is best to print Realistic 'Gold' color text or fonts that will result being shinny text that will appear to pop off the page against a solid black or dark background on glossy or/and matte paper? Thanks.

[@KeithCooper]

Not something I've ever printed, but with a high gloss paper (such as the metallic gloss I tried) the 200 will likely give a bit more depth. With matte paper the blacks will be deeper on the 200, but 'pop off the page' are not words I'd ever associate with matte papers ;-) 'Gold' will look more metallic with a gloss metallic paper and the 200. So, my feeling (and it is only that) is that you've come up with a good use for the 200...

[@williamoneill5498]

Are the print heads replaceable on the pro-200, as they are on the pro-300?

[@KeithCooper]

Yes - the same print heads as used in the PRO-100

[@genghisbunny]

Thank you so much for this, it's been very enlightening.

[@KeithCooper]

Glad it was of interest - do check the written reviews if you want more detail

[@genghisbunny]

@@KeithCooper I have done, they're excellent. Great website all around, you really do put in a lot of care and it shows.

[@beemerrox]

Good video! Just what I was looking for. Many thanks

[@KeithCooper]

Glad it helped! - Do check the full written reviews on the Northlight Images site if you need more detail?

[@beemerrox]

@@KeithCooper Didn´t know about that one and I´ll have a look. Do you by any chance play D&D or any Tabletop games? The main purpose of this printer for us is to print "battle maps" with much details, on A3+ papers to move around the miniatures on.

[@KeithCooper]

@@beemerrox There are many more articles - nearly 20 years worth on the site - I've only been doing the videos since last summer (at the suggestion of someone at Canon) I'm afraid my last playing of D&D was in the 20th century, several careers ago. All hand drawn on large sheets of graph paper. The only computer input was with character sheets created using MacDraw and printed on an Apple LaserWriter.

[@stalinmachenhe7943]

How are you Keith. Which printer is the best for printing PVC cards and still enjoy the A3 plus panoramic print? I will appreciate your lead because I am contemplating going into photography business.

[@KeithCooper]

Sorry, there is no printer I've looked at which is good printing PVC cards. You need media designed for aqueous inkjet use.

[@yonderfolkmusic4121]

Hi Keith, thanks for your video! I’m wanting to print greatings cards, which printer would you suggest is best for that purpose and printing upon card? Would one be a cheaper alternative for ink costs also? Thanks :)

[@KeithCooper]

Both work well - the cost of the 200 are a bit lower, see www.redrivercatalog.com/rr/cost-of-inkjet-printing.html Remember that either printer will entail loading one sheet at a time, so your business best not be too busy ;-) Both printer also depend on getting the right card - get something sold as 'cardstock' and all bets are off. The main written reviews have more about printing on cards

[@yonderfolkmusic4121]

@@KeithCooper thanks so much for your reply. Is there a printer you would particularly recommend for printing greatings cards?

[@KeithCooper]

None of the above... I have not tested a printer yet which supports all the functions I feel someone would want for a serious business [i.e. with a decent volume of cards per day] I used the 300 for printing a few Christmas cards and after half a dozen I started wondering if I could really be bothered to do more... I asked Epson about a 'better' printer for such work, and they lent me this one www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-wf-c8690-printer-review/ Good, but not borderless. There are sound business reasons that commercial cards are printed on larger sheets and cut.

[@yonderfolkmusic4121]

@@KeithCooper I’ve seen a recommendation for Epson Eco 8500. I’ll check out both. Thanks for your help Keith :)

[@KeithCooper]

@@yonderfolkmusic4121 Some et-8500/8550 info if you've not seen it www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/ and www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8500-printer-review/

[@federicamartini5074]

Hi Keith...very well explained comparisons, do you have an opinion when it comes to printing block colours digital illustrations? thanks so much

[@KeithCooper]

Yes, using icc profiles may or may not help. This is one of the few times that the basic printer driver on its own may potentially work better. Note I say 'may' since it's all about paper choices and media settings as well. Colour management becomes quite important, especially if someone has used CMYK in creating the artwork. It's an area I carefully avoid in my work - all my testing is primarily for photographers and strictly RGB images.

[@peterbrolin8522]

Hi, I’m thinking about getting a new printer and saw this review of canon pro 200 and 300 and also about Epson ecotank 8550. Do you really got moore prints with Epson ? And how is the quality of the printings comparing to canons 200. Canon 200 has a moore reasonable price but with Epson you also get a scanner and maybe save som money on inc?

[@KeithCooper]

See the written reviews for far more detail on functionality The ink costs of the 8550 will definitely be lower. It may be easier to get icc profiles for the 200 I didn't do a fine detail test on the 8550 like I've done for other printers - it's one of the reasons I have the et-8500 here - the two are identical in this respect.

[@peterbrolin8522]

@@KeithCooper thanks for the answer. I don't print that much so the 8550 seems interesting but it seems like the printing quality is better with Canon. Where can I find the written reviews ?

[@KeithCooper]

See here for all my written reviews: www.northlight-images.co.uk/category/articles-and-reviews/printer-reviews/ Definitions of 'better' vary widely... ;-)

[@KeithCooper]

See here for all my written printer reviews www.northlight-images.co.uk/category/articles-and-reviews/printer-reviews/ Definitions of 'better' vary widely ;-)

[@mlepcha890]

Hey Keith thanks for your videos, they are very helpful. What about the Canon Pro 10 ?

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks- My 2013 PRO-10 review www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pixma-pro-10-printer-review/ The articles go back to 2003 - the videos only to August 2020 The 300 is a vast improvement from a usability POV

[@RS-rd5yt]

Hi, thanks for the video. I was wondering if dye based inks are more likely to bleed on semi gloss or glossy cardstock than pigments, as that is an issue I have had in the past when printing art cards. Thanks for your content.

[@KeithCooper]

No, it's mainly about the suitability of the surface coating for the card. I've quite a few videos looking at card printing and if there was one take away it would be that generic card stock rarely works well. As to dyes/pigments in this instance, different card types will fail in different ways if they are not coated for inkjet use

[@RS-rd5yt]

@@KeithCooper Thank you very much for your answer. I did see some of those card videos after I had asked this and found them very useful. I have one other question that I am having trouble finding a simple answer for, but do canon dye inks for the pro 200 run when exposed to water? I am planning to print line drawings on watercolour paper and tint them by hand. From what I can gather the dye inks would run? But I can't seem to find out definitively.

[@KeithCooper]

Not much, but how much (if at all) does depend on the paper type and surface coating. I have some profiling targets on PT-101 and FA-rough and just ran water over the corners - no sign of running at all - both prints were printed a couple of weeks ago, so fully dry.

[@RS-rd5yt]

@@KeithCooper Thank you.

[@sketchbookistart7531]

Thank you- this is an extremely useful review!

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - there are detailed [written] reviews of each as well if you've not seen them www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pro-200-printer-review/ www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pro-300-printer-review/

[@llamarvasquez1803]

Hello there Keith great video thanks for doing that… I had a question. so you can’t sell prints from the canon 200 Pro? in order to sell prints you would have to go with the 300 pro? the reason I ask there’s a Canon ambassador on their site that sells his prints using the canon pro 200 just wondering thanks

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - Of course you can sell PRO-200 prints... It's all about the kind of market you are selling in and who wants to buy them. Of the two, I'd prefer the pigment inks of the 300 (especially for B&W) but the 200 is reasonable enough. As small 13" printers, neither are what I'd personally choose for print sales (see my current videos about the P7500). Oh, and I'm [quite deliberately] not on the Canon (or Epson) payroll, so draw from that whatever inference you might wish ;-) ;-)

[@llamarvasquez1803]

@@KeithCooper awesome thank you very much! One last question what canon paper works good with both printers I do lots of portraits in night sky astrophotography… would glossy or luster paper be good? thank you again

[@KeithCooper]

Gloss papers often give good results with the 200 dyes. Have a look at the main [written] review and the glossy metallic paper I tried. These can give a really powerful look to the right sort of images.

[@llamarvasquez1803]

@@KeithCooper I will take a look thanks again :) 📸

[@potatosoup815]

Brilliant, thanks for your comparison Keith :)

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - I still have both here, but do check the full (written) reviews if you want more detail.

[@ianwatson8599]

Hi, not sure if you’ll have an opinion on what I’m looking to get a printer for. I am currently saving up to buy a printer and have the pro 300 in mind for astrophotography printing. Maybe more ‘general’ photography in the coming years. I currently only want to print my work off to put up in my office at home etc, but later on when I’ve mastered everything related to the hobby I may look at selling some prints. My question, if you have an opinion, is which of these do you think I would get better results for my current needs? The price would mean I could obviously get the 200 a lot sooner but I’d rather ‘measure twice cut once’! Thanks

[@KeithCooper]

Stock up on black ink whatever you get ;-) My first question is actually 'why these two?' It also depends on the papers you want to use See my proper reviews [not the YT 'highlights' ;-) ] www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pro-200-printer-review/ www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pro-300-printer-review/

[@ianwatson8599]

Well to be honest I’ve not looked into anything else, apart from the pro 1000. I wouldn’t like to spend more than the pro 300 for now. I have watched both your videos but while doing other things so may have missed some things. I’ve also watched a couple videos on the pro 300 from other KZbinrs and have been swayed that way. If there’s another printer in the same price range you could recommend? Thanks for your reply

[@KeithCooper]

Ah - I have a detailed PRO-1000 review [from when it first came out - before I did any supplemental videos] As a printer to produce great colour prints, and not worry about the ink costs, the ET-18100 is worth looking at. If the ink costs don't matter so much, the PRO-200 is a more versatile printer, and of course, the PRO-300 is pigment ink As to prices, you'll have to look them up - this is one aspect I choose to ignore completely in my reviews [it varies and by region too]

[@ianwatson8599]

@@KeithCooper I think I need to look into that Epson too! And more into the 200. I’m aiming to buy within a couple months. Thanks for replying and I shall check your videos more!

[@4aaandetoprappers24]

Hello, i will print cd's. What is the best? The 200 or 300?

[@KeithCooper]

No idea I'm afraid. They are both capable of printing CDs, but not fast. I wouldn't want to print a big pile of CDs with any printer like these.

[@dandee28]

hi keith, would pigment be better if I want to print on weatherproof paper to sit outside?

[@KeithCooper]

Not really - you likely need a solvent based printer - as used in signage Printers like this are just mot meant for that sort of printing I did test a Canon 'water resistant' artificial matte paper a while ago and it worked OK on a PRO-2000 [similar pigment inks to the 300] Waterproof but unlikely to last long outside I'd suggest www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-water-resistant-matte-paper-review/

[@gregw4950]

Great reviews Keith ....... would you recommend either for cad architectural drawings

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - both will print drawings OK, but are perhaps overkill for image quality. There are bigger printers available with just four inks that are aimed at the plot/CAD market. Not really the sort of printers I test though

[@gregw4950]

cheers for reply Keith

[@pasqualeguglielmi4253]

Thanks so much for the detailed comparison! May I ask which one, out of the three printers ( pro-200, pro-300 and pro-1000 ) would be the better choice in terms of running costs, on the long run? Would the pro-1000 ink cartridges capacity make any sensible difference? Thanks very much again for the review!

[@KeithCooper]

See here for some estimated ink costs www.redrivercatalog.com/rr/cost-of-inkjet-printing.html I don't really keep track of costs, since I don't usually get printers for long enough, run an atypical mix of test prints, and prices vary so much around the world ;-)

[@pasqualeguglielmi4253]

@@KeithCooper no worries 🙂 and thanks very much for the link

[@mrbigh95838]

I will be printing to adhesive backed vinyl. Will that make a difference between the two?

[@KeithCooper]

Neither will work on most vinyl media - the ink won't dry properly I've not seen a vinyl yet which worked in one of these printers - I'm told there is such a thing, but I've not seen it...

[@mrbigh95838]

@@KeithCooper Wow! You just saved me 550 bucks!! 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

[@KeithCooper]

@@mrbigh95838 Thanks! I get asked about stickers a lot and every media I've tried has either not dried or the ink rubs off If someone knows of one which works on such printers, I'd love to know it...

[@mrbigh95838]

@@KeithCooper Me too!!

[@supersingular]

Thank you for this very informative video. The difference in the average cost per print is what really has me on the fence. What would you say is the average price per print of a border less A3+ in each of these printers? Thanks again.

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks Unfortunately, I have no useful data for calculating costs, but see here: www.redrivercatalog.com/rr/cost-of-inkjet-printing.html You will need to do conversions for local currency/ink costs.

[@supersingular]

@@KeithCooper thanks a lot.

[@thelonewolf9817]

You got a verry amazing channel Keith . I want to aquire a printer for my wife she loves photography and want to print pictures on canvas , somewhere around a2 printer , can you recomend me anything refering to printer ?

[@KeithCooper]

Thanks - For A2 it's the P900 or PRO-1000, or for heavier duty work, the Epson P5000 I have reviews of all of them on the Northlight Images site (2 of them predate me making videos, but the articles are always more thorough than the videos) If you've any specific questions, let me know via the Northlight site - since I never give specific recommendations in articles or videos.

[@MusicArtlIfeQ676]

do you happen to know the best setting to use for printing w/ canson baryta prestige? was using heavyweight fine art paper setting in photoshop, the thing I didn't like that much about it is the ink seems like it's too shiny, and my fingers get a little ink residue on them when handling prints, would choose baryta but it makes me manual feed which I hate but might be the way? just curious on your feedback to whats best.

[@KeithCooper]

With what printer?

[@MusicArtlIfeQ676]

@@KeithCooper sorry it was the canon pro-300, seems to actually print better just in a photo paper setting with standard settings, the higher quality seemed to make it look metalllic with too much ink on the paper.

[@KeithCooper]

@@MusicArtlIfeQ676 Yes, quite possible. The choice of media settings is always an experiment with third party papers. The name of the media setting in the printer driver is but a guide. However HFAP is not a setting I'd normally associate with papers with the word 'baryta' in them - they need the photo black ink not the matt black used with HFAP. The wrong black will cause all kinds of problems. The correct media type should be listed with ICC profile info?

[@11barvas]

Hello, will this print envelopes as well? I planning to do envelope birthday cards. It doesnt seem to have any movable paper alignment edges on the entry......

[@KeithCooper]

See the bits about paper feeding and full list of paper specifications in the specs in each review www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pro-200-printer-review/ www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-pro-300-printer-review/ One thing to note that results will depend very much on the quality of the paper and the complexity of what you want to print - text is no problem

[@11barvas]

@@KeithCooper thanks for your help Keith!

[@pop-upcardmaker]

Thanks for another great review/comparison, Keith. I make Pop-Up Cards as a hobby and 1 question very important to my decision on my next printer is - will the ink split when I score the card to achieve folds? Many thanks.

[@KeithCooper]

The ink won't, but the surface coating might. Dye inks sink further into some media, but I'm afraid I have no testing of this to give you a firm answer.

[@pop-upcardmaker]

@@KeithCooper Many thanks for the reply Keith. If the dye ink goes further into the card then that will help lots. Do you know when the Pro 200 will be available? Seems to be only available for preorder at present.

[@KeithCooper]

@@pop-upcardmaker It will vary by card coating - watch out for ink bleed though - where crisp detail is lost. I don't know about shipping though - I don't sell printers, so have no info on that side of things.

[@pop-upcardmaker]

@@KeithCooper That's fine, I appreciate you taking the time to reply. For my kind of work a decent quality printer with the ability to print on A3 cards will do just fine. The Pro 200 appears to be just what I need.

[@TristanChambers]

Hi Keith thanks so much for your videos and writing. I work almost entirely in black and white, and I prefer to print on matte papers. For these reasons I was leaning toward the pro-300 (or probably the PRO-1000). However, I noticed that the PRO-300 offers a Light Gray ink position in addition to a Gray position. Whereas the PRO-300 (and PRO-1000) spec sheets lists one Gray and one "Photo Gray." The latter I take to be a gloss optimized version of the same Gray. Is it the same density? Or is it lighter one and, though gloss optimized, used in printing on matte papers too? If not, does the PRO-200's additional gray density make a discernible difference in the tonal gradations of black and white prints? "More inks are better" right? Why does the higher end printer appear to lack the Light Gray position!? Looking back in time the PRO-1 had THREE gray densities. Right now I'm wishing that I had a time machine. Many thanks.

[@KeithCooper]

Ah, the multiple greys issue... "More inks are better" ...only from a marketing perspective ;-) Yes, sometimes, but it depends on a whole host of other things, which are never clear in any marketing, or for that matter, a lot of 'reviews' which I note are heavily driven by marketing info ;-) First up, if they are dyes then it matters not how many, since the spectral response is what causes illuminant metamerism and other issues associated with B&W on dye based printers. That can't be fully addressed with profiling or adjustment Also ignore densities - that is taken care of in the driver. It's how the inks are used that makes the difference (BTW PG is pale grey, as with pale magenta) I'd pick a PRO-1000 over the PRO-1 any day www.northlight-images.co.uk/printer-review-canon-pixma-pro-1/ Given a choice I'd pick the PRO-300 over the PRO-1 as well - it fixes my biggest complaints (with the PRO-1 and PRO-10) over paper sizes/margins. Hope that helps...

[@jonathanpye3184]

Hi Keith - I have a jumble of old family b+w photos of various sizes, more modern colour prints and negatives, and colour slides (non are digital) many of which I would like to scan and archive (for other family members to access) or reproduce as prints. I have been researching the options and find it confusing. Does Canon make a suitable scanner/printer ? I do use a Pixma MG5750 for business letters, digital photos etc, and would favour another Canon if possible.

[@KeithCooper]

Basically there are no good quality scanner/printer combinations that I know of. That's partly because images typically need some adjustment after being scanned, and the printer needs to be good enough to manage to reproduce the images, and all-in-one type devices are not made for this. Slides are another matter - they need a dedicated scanner or a camera adapter like this www.northlight-images.co.uk/jessop-zoom-slide-duplicator-lens/ If you wanted to drop me a line at Northlight? it's easier with email than YT comments

[@lawrencebuttigieg4856]

Hi Keith, This video is both informative and helpful. The only thing that sets me back from purchasing the PRO1000 if the possibility that it might have a replacement some time soon. What's your take on this?

[@KeithCooper]

In other times... I would have expected this to be announced by now, but the various shortages have pushed a lot of products back. Next year seems a good guess, but it is just that. As one manufacturer said to me 'Why launch what we can't supply' I really don't have any idea (as opposed to 'I can't say' ;-) )

[@lawrencebuttigieg4856]

Still, I suppose, if there's an upgrade, the present pro1000 would still be relevant, right?

[@KeithCooper]

Yes, it's an excellent printer - what might be 'improved'? Maybe less ink used on cleaning, maybe roll paper support - print quality? Who's going to notice? It already has the best paper feeding of any large desktop printer I've looked at (my detailed review is on the Northlight site - it long predates me making videos) Maybe a bit lighter/smaller Maybe a better display Much to favour the existing one ;-) I've been reviewing printers for long enough to know that there are rarely huge differences and printing is usually limited by user abilities and skill ;-)

[@lawrencebuttigieg4856]

@@KeithCooper thanks so much for your advice.