Consumer Edition! Do Not EVER Buy A Chrysler!

[@memphisautodiagnostics4136]

the problem is the used market for Chrysler is so cheap that people take a chance, and they pay dearly for that, another vehicle you shouldn't buy is Nissan .

[@VoltageDropDiagnostics]

hahaha! You didn't even mention the TIPMs! How can you forget about the TIPMs! haha

[@CubasAutomotive]

Yessssss!

[@GaryBritton336]

@@CubasAutomotive I thought the same thing... a good friend just went through the TIPM replacement struggle. It eventually got worked out but only after the third module!

[@CubasAutomotive]

@@GaryBritton336 ughhh... 3rd?? Wrong ones? Unbelievable 😒😔

[@ozzstars_cars]

Keith this video just saved you a small fortune in therapy sessions by venting. Haha I liked the way you said it straight to the point even if the Hemi people will be butt hurt.

[@happy543210]

chrysler is still in business, so clearly, there's a sucker born every minute.

[@Monza62000]

i have an 08 avenger runs great but i am a gm guy

[@kdautomotive1165]

I'm a technician with a Jeep. Had to replace camshaft at 90k. Last 3 3.6 Pentastar engines I got after other shops through thousands of dollars and and needed a left cylinder head, part was on back order for months on end

[@Drknt7]

I would not categorize this as a rant, but an observation. You make a great point, why would a corporation make it difficult to repair their product. Unless profit is a motivation. They do have a popular line of cars and trucks. You are correct about Toyota they do take care of their customers. The "Right to repair" you mention, I think everyone has the choice to take their vehicle to whoever they want or repair it themself. I saw something a few years back on 20/20 or some other program about Jonh Deer not letting farmers access software to be able to diagnose their tractor. Great video, their a half a second delay on your audio. It's almost like watching an old martial arts movie. 👍

[@aljohnson125]

I had a second hand 2008 Jeep Grand Cherokee V6 diesel had the N23 recall, what a fiasco, I was fortunate after reading a lot about it on some Jeep forums and good private mechanic I did not need to have the FDCM reflash done, the shift motor for the transfer case was never lube'd from day one & the module sensed to higher current draw on the shift motor, so no shift, mean while FCA was trying to fix this with a reflash, go figure. Others had different problems with the FDCM & shift motor and FCA was trying to fix with the reflash that did not work. My first and last Jeep ever!

[@tecnaman9097]

About an hour ago I watched AutoExpert's latest video do a similar dissertation on Jeep products and service in Australia. He's done a few rants about how bad Jeep are down here. Worth a watch Keith if you enjoy a bit of satire and stick it to 'em lol.

[@stevericketts810]

I’m new to the channel... love it! You are right on target!

[@etiennebisset5642]

I'm a DYI and I overhauled my 1997 DGC (I bought CAD700 with 270k km.) when it stayed to 2nd gear (limp mode). I found out that the splines of 2-4 hub are all gone due to hard constant banging (aka hard 4-2 downshift). After the overhaul the symptoms is still there in spite of almost all parts replaced with new ones. Now I know that the problem is the TCM. You just validate my experience that these Dodge Chrysler cars have bad computer modules. Now I want to learn module flashing / programming. I'm now waiting for the Toyota RAV XLE I ordered.

[@mleindek]

American cars, especially Chrysler/Dodge have always the worst reliability and build quality. It's a shame because they look gorgeous but the quality is just not there.

[@themaverickmechanic7240]

Someone had to say it. Going to just send this to the next customer that asks me if they should buy one.

[@williamwhite9767]

I haven't noticed recently but for years the taxicab companies in my city would buy used Chysler minivans from auctions that had 100k miles on them for a couple thousand dollars and run them typically up to 450,000 miles befoe the engines died.

[@dereksimenac8844]

You obviously don't have good equipment, my IM608 pulls pin codes, vin changes module programming etc. but you are right about not EVER buying a chrysler

[@L1Training]

I have all of that... but I shouldn't have too. Your 608 doesn't program, it comes with a J2534 that can be used with OE software to program, but it doesn't do it on board.

[@RX7GSLSEowner]

I do software for a living and wrench on cars in my spare time. I laughed out loud during parts of this video. Overall I enjoyed it, thank you!

[@JoesAutoElectric]

Chrysler should go out of business. Best thing they can do to contribute to the automotive industry. Flashing is one aspect of them sucking. The fact that they rust into a pile of ash in a few years is another thing as well.

[@databeestje]

Looks like there will be plenty of work with the electric cars in the future, you miss the CAFE standards hijinx, but they'll find something else to break. I mean around ~2002 you had various PSA products (Europe) where the blinker would stay on in one direction, how did that ever get shipped? Then there is Tesla currently where it's become incredibly hard to get the tools you need. And increasing amount of actual encryption means it becomes neigh impossible to just replace something, it's not just a VIN check anymore (say for a Nissan Leaf battery replacement).

[@robertmedina6875]

I took my 2004 Dodge Ram to dealer for air bag recall. Asked them to program two remotes for me. Service manager said" we can't. It's your trucks problem. That will be 85.00 bucks. O Btw we can look at that for ya! Ha ha not a chance the stealership will have that chance

[@miriamvivo4279]

Tpms= reprograming when doing tire rotation another ripoff

[@jeffjankiewicz5100]

This is just one of the reasons why I still drive my 91 Silverado(300,000 on the clock), basic obd1 ecm. No massive amounts of modules etc. Nice rant Keith, blow off the steam and keep your sanity. A guy I work with made the mistake of buying a used 2018 Ram truck with the 5.7 hemi last year, nothing but problems. That is probably why previous owner traded it in.

[@jholthenrichs]

Thank you! I was on the fence about buying a Scat Pack Charger vs a Kia Stinger. You just made up my mind.

[@simonilett998]

@Jeffrey Holthenrichs Yep, Chrysler👎...Kia 👍

[@mbs5328]

Thank you. This kind of information is very helpful.

[@Ebooger]

Chrysler electronics was light years of ahead of everybody else when they made their own. Huntsville electronics division was in a class by itself, first electronic voltage regulator, first electronic ignition, first in dash computer/display, first computer controlled ignition and fueling, etc. Then Mercedes bought them in 1998, and they were forced to sell off everything in the name of cost savings. Mechanically, they are still state-of-the-art. 840 HP Hemi, emissions legal! Pentstar v6 is the class leader.

[@Teenagegoogoomuk]

Yep seems like when ever Chrysler went Euro things went down hill quick.

[@simonilett998]

mrhippy100 Yep, and GM have gone exactly the same way since they went Euro + Daiwoo too it seems👎🤣

[@airratchetjockey7605]

Now we need to GM and Ford rant, lol. All those “fees” will be coming to them also they are both implementing “SGM” too. I specialize in rebuilding transmissions and see far more GM transmissions then FCA 6L80/6T70 are shit piles. Now the 62TE and the 65/66/68RFE, definitely have their issues too. Engine wise don’t deal much with internals but GM hasn’t had a good run either, timing chains, bad rings/pistons oil consumption ect.... Ford they did pretty good with the 6R60/80 and their version the 6F50 (6T70E) does hold up very well I can’t chime in much with Fords later model engines but the early 4.6/5.4 they were a joke.

[@williamwhite9767]

The 4.6 and 5.4 two valve engines are some of the best engines ever built. Yeah, they would sometimes spit spark plugs if you didn't tighten them enough and the Ford torque spec was too low, but many of them go over 300k miles. My 2000 5.4 went 170k miles reliably before I lost track of it. My current 2002 5.4 has 165k on it without spitting a plug. Google "million mile van" sometimes and read about one that went 1,270,000 miles.

[@bopahay]

I guess I'm one of the lucky ones! Bought a Chrysler T&C in 2006, sold it in 2014 & bought a 2014 T&C and still have it and have never had ANY problems with anything on either of them. Will I buy another T&C?....my needs have changed, so maybe not, but they've been good to me, thank God!

[@blackscotydog]

I worked in a small shop for short time,the owner of the shop said people who buy FCA have a taste for shit.

[@joebush5463]

u are so 100 percent RIGHT!

[@richardcranium5839]

iacoca gave them a pulse but then they went downhill. just about bottom the italians bought it. is there anything they do that works? they bought allis chalmers and look where it went. just like the flat tire dego wop wop wop

[@EdgarLopez-ik3yk]

great content. I came to the conclusion myself , many dealers do not have a well rounded diagnosticians. Reasons, do not want to deal with issues for hours and get paid 1 hour. pay is not enough. Techs do not want spend in the effort to educate themselves, when can make the same amount of money, doing repetitive work. A friend took his Nissan rogue, paid 200 , they said , did not find nothing. They could look closer, 200 more and a week , they were to busy. This industry it's going down. dealers and independent shops do not invest in new techs, everybody needs training, dealers just want to make money, not solve problems.

[@joshr8176]

Two makes I steer everyone away from are Nissan and Chrysler, they are the worst.

[@wyattoneable]

You're very passionate about your work and this subject. You have the skill and experience to back up your data too. I bought a 1997 Jeep that we kept for 10 years and had zero issues. Fast forward and our 2005 Dodge Magnum we kept for 7 years had one failure of the EGR valve. I now own a 1987 Jeep and a 2019 Chrysler 300. So far it has been a trouble free car. But I hear you and I'm paying attention. I guess I have an advantage in the maintenance area because I can do most of it myself. But yes, the diagnostic aspect scares me. I'll trailer mine down to you if needed. I enjoyed the rant.

[@Sicktrickintuner]

Yep, mid 2000’s Chrysler screwed the pooch on design right before the recession

[@lovetolearn5253]

What do you mean dont buy a Chrysler? People stop buying them then work will slow down lol.

[@tiredoldmechanic1791]

Now FCA is merging with an even shittier manufacturer PSA which makes Peugeot, Citroen and others. It should be even worse than Renault/Nissan. The new company will be called Stellantis holding company. French cars aren't sold in the US because we have lemon laws which Europe doesn't have.

[@mikeobrien3744]

I think Massachusetts passed a right to repair law that makes factories share their codes or not sell cars in that state. So something like alltell will have all those codes.

[@L1Training]

Right to repair does not require access to immobilizer data or functions.

[@williamwhite9767]

I own a 2005 Dodge Magnum with the 5.7L Hemi bought new and it has been more reliable than the 95 Mark VIII Lincoln that it replaced. I loved the Mark and I love the Magnum for it's power, handling, and comfort. Yeah, I know some of those 03 to 08 Hemis drop valve seats but the 4.6 DOHC Lincoln engines broke valve springs occasionally too. There ain't no perfect cars. If you are a car person buy what like to drive. A super reliable Camry is not on my list.

[@wadkeryos8486]

Straight on points! Thank you.

[@daniellasota5264]

I have worked on a fleet of Crysler mini Van's for around five years and we have had almost none of the problems you are talking about here.

[@antonoudenhoven7573]

Especially a pt cruiser lol.

[@miriamvivo4279]

You guys are like seal team 6. Did not know this. Im in ct. and got tired of getting ripped off. Now I do my own maintenance and repairs. Ase = is a joke . Grear rant muy bueno

[@roysiewerth980]

Oh yeah your an expert

[@MWalsh_NY]

I was actually surprised it wasn’t Nissan cvt’s that we’re considered the worst.

[@Jason-cu1jp]

A close second I reckon. 👍

[@williegillie5712]

I can’t believe someone took the basic principles of a snowmobile belt drive ( drive and driven pulleys) and adapted it to be used in vehicles. The one thing I can remember about operating a snowmobile. Ya better have a spare belt tucked away. Ivan’s wife had a broken belt. Kibbles and bits scattered everywhere inside his wife’s transmission. What a let down

[@richardelliott7022]

my dodge rams have not given me any trouble

[@billburkart9087]

Wow I feel smarter now for telling my son not to buy a new Jeep Grand Cherokee in 2018. He didn't listen. lol My dodge grand caravan is a 1998 and my kids are always bugging me to get something new.

[@CubasAutomotive]

I thought this was awesome! It came at a great time! I have friends considering purchasing a Chrysler product.... and you hit so many great points, which i missed when providing my input. Lol Thanks Keith 😁🤗👍🏻

[@CarlosRomero-bn1bn]

what up with them weird misfires

[@1MiketheMechanic]

Don't forget about the sneaky rebadged VW Routan vans! 😱🤬🤮💩

[@CubasAutomotive]

Right!!

[@Sicktrickintuner]

Id totally agree the car or jeep line of Chrysler is complete garbage. Even though I have a 2500 diesel ram. Hopefully thinking that cummins might have helped out on the program and design or something

[@vencentbauer]

I stoped programming the new christlers

[@williegillie5712]

I decided to never buy a Chrysler after hearing the nightmares with the TIPM.

[@joedavis2081]

I live in Tulsa, and have a mobile diagnostic business, and I definitely agree. Pretty much every Dodge,Chrysler and Jeep vehicle, I have seen had some mechanical issue with the engine.

[@vencentbauer]

With wytec do we still need all them subscriptions

[@L1Training]

yes

[@roccosautotech]

Mercedes Benz Xentry Access 17,000 dollars for four years , prepay only, Startekinfo wiring diagrams 3100 one year, EPC parts access 75 a year. One Brand only, Sprinter is another 3100 a year. P.S. 75 percent of reset and diag features gone from only 2 years ago or so, now missing in the program, buy a new part anyway. Lucky they broke up with Chrysler.

[@williamconrad1087]

To late I just bought one, ok I’ll have to sell it when Warrantee expires.

[@pbr549]

Great video. I think you will find that it's less Chrysler but knowledge and philosophy of a producer. A person can sit with a paper and pencil and write a note. Or a person can sit at a purchased computer running a silicon based computer utilizing memory and electric. They both end with similar results. I do know that I will never own a vehicle without a transmission stick for fluid checking. AMC failed because they were the worst parts pickers to create a car. In the 1970's life was more mechanical (physical) now it's more electrical or Technical as in a automotive technician. Just saying.

[@BipVuongAnCapTheMuaMayBayXao]

Hello Keith. Im thinking to buy between Cardaq Plus 3 and Bosch Mastertech2. which one you refer, i want something interface diagnosis for gm, ford, chysler and Nissan . i heard Bosch can work as Consult plus 3 interface and witech for Chrysler. Isn't it. Can you explain more. Thank you so much

[@Barnehy1]

Cardaq all the way. Their customer service is the best. Anytime I have an issue with programming, I call them first and they are quick to help .

[@MrThebirddog]

Scotty Killer said this a long time ago

[@davidsawyer1599]

I could not disagree more about Dodge or Ram. Owned both brands. Over 200,000 on all. One issue.on the Dodge when new. Pinched wire at rear of vehicle. Direct short but not enough to blow a fuse. Unpinched (if that's a word) the wire. Never any other issues. Jeeps have been poop forever though.

[@robertmccully2792]

If you say do not buy this brand than you have a duty to say which brand to buy. KZbin is full of do not buy this Tool or this whatevef and then end video. Problems need solutions.

[@simonilett998]

Toyota, Toyota and Toyota again...otherwise buy a Kia if you can't afford a Toyota, and steer well clear of all Euro brands👍

[@BRAD-bx6mm]

Can I hit the like button twice? So hit that nail!

[@terryburke2587]

Another reason not to buy a Chrysler product. I quit buying them years ago because of all of their quality issues. Mainly junk transmissions.

[@marshalparker4434]

Ya Chrysler is the only one I suggest staying away from. They use crap Solder Jtec, use weird impact driver locks on seats, Techauthority sucks TOKEN, $35 VSR to reprogram is scam(it costs $110+$10gas so it costs $120 to flash 1 chrysler module and you have 3days to get it. Not mention the war&peace of the SGW. Thank you for making this video Chrysler needs to understand how bad they are. To make my time worth flashing a chrysler I need $200 minimum. They are a horrible!!!

[@Barnehy1]

Amen, brother. I constantly preach to my friends and acquaintances to stay completely away from anything made by Chrysler.

[@chrisroberds6076]

Bro I only like it when Scotty Kilmer does this stuff 🤣😂🤣😂

[@CubasAutomotive]

Blows his cigar smoke and fixes a car.... 🤣🤣🤣💨🚬😎

[@thomastorres4125]

FCA FIAT CHRYSLER has gone through a merger with PSA Peugeot first daimler-benz then fiat now Peugeot all in 23 year span chysler hasn't been able to hold their own in a long long time

[@joekeefe3229]

Awesome

[@nv1493]

Combination of Fiat and Chrysler - what could possibly go wrong? At least Dodge brand has some enthusiasts. IMO Chryslers are bought by folks that need a toaster appliance and don't worry about opening the hood. Ever.

[@alward9901]

Is this why some Chrysler’s products cheap to buy . Because they know they will nail when you come in for repairs . Just saying .

[@mib20000]

so dont buy the new RAM TRX

[@williamconrad1087]

Streetspeed717 just bought one. He’ll abuse the piss out of it.

[@adamtrombino106]

And I suppose you like Fords..

[@L1Training]

All manufacturers suck...vehicles suck....work on them for a livin.g in the context of technology, and you will understand

[@sheeshalready]

Chrysler = Yugo

[@DrivenDIYer]

All of these come from FIAT with their crap SGW module.

[@steventenney8797]

Don’t you drive a promaster ? Must be a masochist

[@L1Training]

NV2500, NV200, and a Transit Connect....... But still a masochist......

[@CubasAutomotive]

🤣🤣🤣

[@simonilett998]

Toyota = BEST FRICKEN CAR MAKER ON THE PLANET👍👍👍🤘👈 Chrysler/Jeep/Dodge/Ram = JUNK👎👎👎 Very closely followed by: GM = JUNK👎👎👎 😂👍🇦🇺

[@montestu5502]

Wait a minute. Shouldn’t you be pushing people to buy Chrysler’s? Sounds like a guy can make a lot of money on them!

[@DIYDaveOK]

Love this!! Chrysler is an abomination. Sadly, it almost seems as though GM is consciously and deliberately trying to emulate them.

[@johnhennessy1103]

Can I just say you’re a automotive technician but you can’t edit your video properly the sound doesn’t match the video

[@kennethhendrie2091]

I have been an automotive technician for 43 years and these are the reasons I am no longer working on cars too many computers too many problems too many things that shouldn’t be a problem. The older vehicles worked just fine. Engineers are the epitome of shit we don’t need all that stuff on cars.