Steam Engine Gear 2: Setting up and Cutting Gear Teeth on the Horizontal Mill

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Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org

Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org

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@belatoth3763
@belatoth3763 Жыл бұрын
I saw Keith cutting gears a hundred times, but I could watch it a thousand times more
@curtkuhns
@curtkuhns Жыл бұрын
Retired Mech Engr here. Always enjoy your videos Keith, even at eighty years old! So many things they don't teach in college. I took the stress analysis route, but have always been interested in machine design. My father was a machinist. Your vids give me an insight to his working world. Thanks again. -Curt Kuhns
@mudnducs
@mudnducs Жыл бұрын
Same here Curt. Retired M.E. (ship repair) Love watching Keith….fascinating!
@thisolesignguy2733
@thisolesignguy2733 Жыл бұрын
I'm a current M.E. working as a Sign craftsman. I had to laugh when you said "things they don't teach in college" because it reminded me of my old engineering teacher that used to tell us every semester: "Any good design contains 1 obsolete part, 2 unobtainable parts, and 1 part still under development. "
@TomokosEnterprize
@TomokosEnterprize 3 ай бұрын
Oh my, These dividing heads always drove me nuttier than I allready am when I was in school. I see a piece that is one for you to be proud of. Well done Keith. You nailed another one my friend.
@kevinschlipalius5359
@kevinschlipalius5359 Жыл бұрын
Hi my name is Kevin from Aus I worked in the family engineering business for 56 years we did tool making tool sharping jobbing manufacturing and power station turbine work your video takes me back when I cut gears of all types I have sold the business but have a little work shop in my back yard with some equipment I bought home from work I needed another gear for one of my lathe so I could cut 3 tip milled it up just like you did so I enjoyed watching you do it us older still do it well thanks Keith very nice job Kevin Schlipalius .
@Sagacity61
@Sagacity61 Жыл бұрын
Men as these are undervalued and precious. Genius in action
@bobqzzi
@bobqzzi Жыл бұрын
I love watching Keith cut gears. Most impressive thing about this video though is finding that special key.
@danielelse3914
@danielelse3914 Жыл бұрын
Remember the old adage,"Your hand is not a hammer." AN impact-sensitive nerve bundle runs through the base of everyone's palm, and I've met woodworkers who have permanently lost feeling by damaging those nerves.
@jwaterous224
@jwaterous224 Жыл бұрын
Keith, you made a beautiful gear. Obsolete are those who have no idea of what you have accomplished here!
@darkhorsegarage9623
@darkhorsegarage9623 Жыл бұрын
Great to see the gear cutting machinery going back into action. Watching that whole process of getting all that together was a wonderful journey.
@josephpetito1351
@josephpetito1351 Жыл бұрын
This is lost art. Thank you for keeping it alive.
@blue-runner
@blue-runner Жыл бұрын
Great job of explaining the process. Love those milling machines.
@peterhobson3262
@peterhobson3262 Жыл бұрын
That is a magnificent, versatile machine.
@charlieromeo7663
@charlieromeo7663 Жыл бұрын
The very first VM video I watched was a the one where you did a brazing repair of a sawmill or other vintage tool. I watched it because I needed to make a gear to repair a handwheel gear for the Hardinge HLVH lathe I was restoring. I wasn’t able to find the proper cutter (they used the Fellows Stub type of 22/29DP with a 20PA), which I’m still trying to find. I did find a gentleman who made one for me and it worked perfectly, but I would have preferred to make it myself. I’m sure you can relate. I can’t get enough of the gear cutting videos, and seeing the KT in action. I enjoyed this video very much. Thanks for producing it. Regards from Florida’s Space Coast.
@ccrider5398
@ccrider5398 Жыл бұрын
Very nice walk through step-by-step. Cutting gears was always one of my favorite machining tasks. Thanks for posting.
@SciPunk215
@SciPunk215 Жыл бұрын
So satisfying. Let's see some video of the steam engine when it's back up and running !!!
@joichiroSaiba-i7j
@joichiroSaiba-i7j Жыл бұрын
Great job of explaining the process. Love those milling machines.. Great job. Love seeing the gear teeth being cut..
@GGray-jd1dx
@GGray-jd1dx Жыл бұрын
Keith Rucker, I watch your videos with fascination! Not just you knowledge of what you are doing but also I am amazed at how the machinery you are using, most of the time, was make by someone using, pretty much, just their pencil and paper instead of a computer. I am not a machinist nor the son of a machinist but I am fascinated at how someone could design machines that can do amazing things B.C (before computers). Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@AW-pz3qc
@AW-pz3qc Жыл бұрын
I believe that 'someone' you mention would be one of my ancestors. I actually have a tool or two made by one/some of them but don't know exactly as no name engraved and they have been passed down through the family. Interesting to see Keith's mill in action.
@steveschwartz6138
@steveschwartz6138 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy watching your videos. I was a machinist in my previous job and my Father owned a machine shop (Thuringer Tool & Die) for many years. He had many of the same machines you have in your shop. The videos bring back good memories of working with my Dad.
@paulkinzer7661
@paulkinzer7661 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for going into great detail with the setup of the horizontal mill. Very interesting to someone who is unfamiliar with gear-cutting.
@mdouglaswray
@mdouglaswray Жыл бұрын
So much fun to watch and what a lovely product!! Thanks letting us watch over your shoulder!!!
@thomaswhaley4024
@thomaswhaley4024 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed watching the whole settup and the adjustments you made to perform the operation. Thanks!
@jimliechty2983
@jimliechty2983 Жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure when showing all of the setup steps and procedures that it takes to cut the gears.
@andrewc.stayart1521
@andrewc.stayart1521 Жыл бұрын
The horizontal mill is my favorite too.
@Ideasite
@Ideasite Жыл бұрын
I have a granddad who grew up in Milwaukee but never got the chance to become a machinist, though he loved machining. I was lucky enough to end up with a Cincinnati No. 2 universal horizontal mill with a high speed vertical attachment. I'm still looking for the arbor support, but I have some really nice 50 taper milling arbors. It gets me by until I either find or make the horizontal arbor support for this machine. I can keep the bed close enough to the mill & I go easy on feeds and speeds to get really nice results. Really love watching the process on the K&T. Let me know if you ever get a lead on a horizontal arbor support for a Cincinnati #2. Thanks for all the hard work you put into your channel & videos. You'll never know how much all of use appreciate it. If anyone else reads this & has a lead on a Cincinnati #2 overarm arbor support, I have some MT5 taper drills & a nice MT5 bull nose live center I'd throw toward a trade.
@williambramer8217
@williambramer8217 Жыл бұрын
Don’t do yourself down Keith, the one thou oversize across a diameter implies your tooth depth is only half a thou shy. Keep up the good work and excellent videos!
@markneedham752
@markneedham752 Жыл бұрын
On the dowells...would it be that much...?
@smaggies
@smaggies Жыл бұрын
I have the same thought, the viewing after milling a gear to view the cuts and surface finish....... :) great thank again!
@nobuckle40
@nobuckle40 Жыл бұрын
I never got to use a dividing head when I was in the shop. The engineering behind it is amazing to me. Thanks for helping us understand more about it.
@mrfarmall-vk4gw
@mrfarmall-vk4gw Жыл бұрын
Never get tired of watching you cut gears! Nice job👍👍
@walterplummer3808
@walterplummer3808 Жыл бұрын
Good morning Keith. thanks for the videos.
@shadrachmalooly9394
@shadrachmalooly9394 Жыл бұрын
Always great to get the detailed view on how the machines are set up and operate. Thanks for another great production!
@tedmiles2110
@tedmiles2110 Жыл бұрын
You sure have a lot of cast iron dust to clean up from that gear! I hope the owner appreciated you work! TM long time listener!
@shubus
@shubus Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate this deep dive into the setup needed for cutting gear teeth.
@evanharriman5352
@evanharriman5352 Жыл бұрын
I’ve watched countless videos of you cutting gear teeth and I’m always glued to the screen, even tho I feel like I could do it myself by now haha
@brucewright5061
@brucewright5061 Жыл бұрын
All that effort at the start pays off with the reasonably quick machining of the part. Great stuff! I'm pleased to see the adjustment on the fly - even the bolt you missed tightening.
@tomlipscombe4258
@tomlipscombe4258 Жыл бұрын
Never seen a machine like that but great to watch and produces a beautiful product
@kennethtencza9209
@kennethtencza9209 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are very informational Keith going on 3 years watching you. Keep up the great things you do.
@Unrivaledanime
@Unrivaledanime Жыл бұрын
Some of my favorite video you produce is gear cutting love the old machines at work
@fireantsarestrange
@fireantsarestrange Жыл бұрын
Nice work sir. I always stay tuned for next episode.
@billmartin4602
@billmartin4602 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful work Keith.
@GeorgeStreet-m8c
@GeorgeStreet-m8c Жыл бұрын
That's a lot of knowledge
@LANless
@LANless Жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff! Love the horizontal mill.
@passenger6735
@passenger6735 Жыл бұрын
Great video... and a really nice finish. The original feed rate seemed a bit ambitious.
@lapoint7603
@lapoint7603 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Rucker, thanks for another great video. Gear cutting has always been somewhat of a mystery to me. You do a great job of simplifying it and showing "field expedient" ways of accomplishing the task. Thanks again for a great videl.
@familycornell8866
@familycornell8866 Жыл бұрын
Great job. Love seeing the gear teeth being cut.
@geraldharkness8830
@geraldharkness8830 Жыл бұрын
thoroughly enjoyed this keith true craftmanship using lovely old machining machines !
@melshea2519
@melshea2519 Жыл бұрын
Good morning from Massachusetts 😊
@Mishn0
@Mishn0 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the step by step set up. I've never run any of these machine tools. I'd seen the red and black markings on the speed dial in videos but never saw how that was applied to set up. That two sided marking on the high/low lever is cool.
@tpobrienjr
@tpobrienjr Жыл бұрын
It is a thing of beauty.
@richardsurber8226
@richardsurber8226 Жыл бұрын
That is a fantastic video the sound of the cutter on your lapel mic came through. I think my perception of the sound was very much like what you heard there in your shop. your explanation of setup was interesting to one who never does this type of work.
@johnhiggins9838
@johnhiggins9838 Жыл бұрын
Great tutorial on the set-up of the horizontal mill. Answered a lot of questions I had. I'm mot a machinist by any stretch of imagination. I was taught by a old time machinist 70 years ago, thus I have some basic knowledge of machine tools.
@levi_madeley
@levi_madeley Жыл бұрын
Thank you Keith 😊
@jodyvanliew2514
@jodyvanliew2514 Жыл бұрын
Great job as always Keith .
@scrivyscriv
@scrivyscriv Жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you! I always enjoy watching your gear cutting work, it's fascinating how many ways there are to mill a gear. I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of the gear being finished in the future!
@Turbo-Drew
@Turbo-Drew Жыл бұрын
Awesome series , Hope we dont have to wait 2 weeks for part 3
@tomp538
@tomp538 Жыл бұрын
Not that I know anything, but the final cut sounded much better to my ear.
@johnperkins7179
@johnperkins7179 Жыл бұрын
i enjoyed every minute of that video. Thank you for taking the time to explain everything
@guubagaaba8391
@guubagaaba8391 Жыл бұрын
damn man , that gear turned out beautiful !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@spencertoolandgrind
@spencertoolandgrind Жыл бұрын
Keith, you could sharpen that cutter. All you do is push the face back. Use your surface grinder. I’ve seen those cutters made when I worked for Star cutter. Piece of cake!
@metalslingr
@metalslingr Жыл бұрын
Just picked up the same K&T slide calculator. 👍
@a.bakker64
@a.bakker64 Жыл бұрын
Nice explanation, thanks Keith.
@steveparker8723
@steveparker8723 Жыл бұрын
Another great video. Thanks Keith.
@rw3dog
@rw3dog Жыл бұрын
I love the gear cutting videos
@GregMosley-l7b
@GregMosley-l7b Жыл бұрын
You make it look so easy!
@greggc.touftree5936
@greggc.touftree5936 Жыл бұрын
He didn't say babbit once in this whole video. It's a miracle.
@BobOBob
@BobOBob Жыл бұрын
To paraphrase The Dude: "well, that's just ... like ... your pinion, man"
@jackpledger8118
@jackpledger8118 Жыл бұрын
Great Video Keith
@johnrice6793
@johnrice6793 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely a beautiful, wonderful piece you made.👍👍
@walteraddie7925
@walteraddie7925 Жыл бұрын
I got a dividing head for my drill press recent for drilling holes in a shaft. Nice to see it in use for cutting gears as I have no real experience with this yet.
@stevebarnes766
@stevebarnes766 Жыл бұрын
Amazing to watch the process. Definitely looks like the horiz mill cuts gears simpler than a vertical. But I don't have any experience with either. I love the "scepter?" hole counting assistant. That is genius! I always wondered how you get around manually counting holes when using a dividing plate. (No personal experience with that either!) Thanks for putting out your videos. I always learn a lot from them in my novice career as a machinist.
@ianrobinson2184
@ianrobinson2184 Жыл бұрын
Keith, I love your videos and am always impressed with what you do. You might have had less vibration and therefore noise if the cutter had been closer to the column and the support closer to the cutter. An arbour half the length is 8 x as rigid. 4dp is a big tooth needing significant rigidity. Well done for a successful gear. Ian
@johnwenzel9252
@johnwenzel9252 Жыл бұрын
Great job Keith! Thank you for all your content.
@railfan439
@railfan439 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Jon
@josephpetito1351
@josephpetito1351 Жыл бұрын
All this was once learned at the high school. Kids would graduate and have a job the Monday after commencement. With a little more education at the junior college, they could call their wage and place of work.
@petegraham1458
@petegraham1458 Жыл бұрын
Lots of steps but fun to watch especially that old KT calculator, nice you have that in your kit. I was pretty sure the feed rate was going to be too high , my guess is those are production rate numbers with flood coolant .
@keitheagle4633
@keitheagle4633 Жыл бұрын
He definitely put a good edge on that cutter
@chuckhorton2377
@chuckhorton2377 Жыл бұрын
Awesome so fun to watch!
@asainhillbillysnow8136
@asainhillbillysnow8136 Жыл бұрын
Another option for sharpening is Clover Tools in South Carolina. We have used them several times.
@none5355melvinMadigan
@none5355melvinMadigan Жыл бұрын
Looking 👀 great
@elsdp-4560
@elsdp-4560 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing.👍
@hudson8865
@hudson8865 10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much.
@jsr2216
@jsr2216 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I would have thought that the amount of time it took to set up the low lead attachment for the spiral bevel gear that you would have left the attachment in place. Cutting gears is always a neat process. Thanks!
@The_DuMont_Network
@The_DuMont_Network Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the in depth coverage of setting up the mill. You filled in a bunch of questions I had about the whole concept of the overarms, support, etc. Is there a slight kink in the arbor nearest the machine? Kinda looked like the spacers wanted to bind up. That old mill is a jewel. And I say 'old" with the greatest respect.
@RobertKohut
@RobertKohut Жыл бұрын
Loved the setup detail!! 🙂
@floridaflywheelersantiquee7578
@floridaflywheelersantiquee7578 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@28Cryptic743
@28Cryptic743 Жыл бұрын
very entertaining video, I recently watched a video by Clickspring that he showed how to make the cutters for doing this, granted his cutters were for teeth much smaller than you would generally work with
@timf6916
@timf6916 Жыл бұрын
Nice, GOOD job
@briantaylor9266
@briantaylor9266 Жыл бұрын
I certainly enjoy all your videos. That old gear broke at least twice in the past. In your position I would have been tempted to make 2 replacements just for future-proofing. More work for sure, but not twice the work because you only do each set-up once. Whereas I see the utility of CNC machines in a production environment, for the one-of jobs I thinks the manual machines still reign supreme. And they make much more interesting KZbin content.
@xmachine7003
@xmachine7003 Жыл бұрын
Excellent.
@Dudleymiddleton
@Dudleymiddleton Жыл бұрын
That is one big gear for a scale model - but some of these old steam tractors, like that case 150hp that pulls 50 plow bottoms are gargantuan!
@capitanschetttino8745
@capitanschetttino8745 Жыл бұрын
Hey Mr Rucker! Have you lost some weight? You look awesome!! Congratulations!
@carlhitchon1009
@carlhitchon1009 Жыл бұрын
Nice gear, looks like an original, only better.
@carlbyington5185
@carlbyington5185 Жыл бұрын
But, but, but..... the new one isn't missing 2 teeth, LOL GREAT job
@johnlee8231
@johnlee8231 Жыл бұрын
I agree shes a looker
@brianatbtacprod1989
@brianatbtacprod1989 Жыл бұрын
Great work, also many thanks for he name of the sharpening service. I need to have some done, and if you recommend one because you have used them for a long time, I think it's worth trying.
@billdoodson4232
@billdoodson4232 Жыл бұрын
Nice job as usual. Not sure about the feeds and speeds though, it looked as if you used the rate for a carbide cutter.
@98grand5point9
@98grand5point9 Жыл бұрын
I hope they will send some video to show where it's installed and the tractor at work.
@user3141592635
@user3141592635 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I am both from Uppland and Östergötland in Sweden, really it is just Sweden since the 900's when they set their problems once and for all :) Actually, the Kings set the problem about the Swear and the Gutes (Gotish) in the great battle of Bråvalla, the greatest battle of all times, perhaps in the year 700. Now all Kings were to be selected from Götaland, so as not to poison the Kingdom of Uppland. Or the whole Kingdom. I have been in the USA, Mn. The girls flocked around me as if i was a beatiful alien from outer space.
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 Жыл бұрын
Probably just help take up some wear from the other gear. Those old 14pa gears were very prone to loosing teeth. 20 was a huge improvement and 25 is even better but rarely found in old stuff.
@formerparatrooper
@formerparatrooper Жыл бұрын
At least you didn't do what I did 6 decades ago, trying to decide whether I wanted one big tooth or two small ones. Yes, started over with a new blank. The indexing plate I thought I had right but I was ONE hole off. I wonder if my boss ever found that one in the scrap bin?
@markneedham752
@markneedham752 Жыл бұрын
You only did it once....?😁😁😁😁
@formerparatrooper
@formerparatrooper Жыл бұрын
@@markneedham752 Yah sure you betcha. I got out of the machining trade in 1970 and never went back.
@watcher9132
@watcher9132 Жыл бұрын
Use a magnet to store your modified key to the machine.😮
@emilgabor88
@emilgabor88 Жыл бұрын
Hi. The old feed and speeds calculator are rubbish. You need to reduce them in half to be able to work whit them … whit you’re Rpm you can sent the cutter for sharpening after every gear you make. Nice work by the way
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