Kelsey Grammer: Overcoming abusive marriage

[@wk1810]

Marrying the right person is one of the most important decisions you'll ever make. Your spouse will be your dearest friend or deadliest enemy; safest confidante or most fearsome gossip; trusted adviser or a terrifying manipulator. This is the person you will be making serious, life-changing decisions with: home, finances, children. This is the one person who will see you at your most vulnerable: mentally, emotionally, physically, spiritually. Choose wisely!

[@jv-ep2tc]

it ain't that simple. the true manipulators will be sure that you never see the real them until you sign on the dotted line.

[@sheisapearla]

Too bad if they change down the track...alcohol and grief turned my ‘soulmate’ into my abuser.

[@deadpanbarry5442]

Could do with a sorting hat like the one in Harry Potter.

[@martinkrumins3053]

Thinking you can make a difference to someone else is delusional, I now know. Understanding you have an affinity with someone else is a rare and precious gift

[@TEAMGETHELP]

YT has some real gem comments.

[@Jaymeeee]

If you have been married FOUR times by 64 I think it’s time for you to stop blaming others and look at yourself.

[@mullmiller]

Jay D Or at least who your attracted too

[@mp5249]

He's a narcissist. It's always someone else's fault.

[@carolinelaronda4523]

Jay D similar to my comment , I agree . He needs to get introspective and stop talking about the women .

[@SweetBlackSistah]

Hello! 💅

[@mullmiller]

Like any of us would really know what he’s really like, narcissist or not.

[@patricedhanis3546]

As a therapist I did exactly that. There was a beginning, a middle, and an end. I called it their graduation. If you do therapy well, it does end as the patient does not need you anymore.

[@Joywith3LastNames]

@patricedhanis3546 thank you for that comment and similar to the example my therapist gave me. When asked if I was tired of it yet, she described the process as a woman who is 9 months pregnant, tired and so ready to just have the baby and get it over with so she can feel better again. I didn't put much thought to that at the time but it was true. Although we split up and didn't live together, it took me 9 yrs to file for divorce. When I did I knew I was healed and didn't need him anymore. Yet I have anxiety sometimes when I recall an event such as this.

[@earlgriffin7761]

You can be wrong , even when you’re right , ????

[@ISayToMyself]

At what point does someone say “maybe marriage is not for me?”

[@honeybee8002]

Once was enough for me and I was DONE!!!!

[@MrsGray-67]

I thought he meant that the marriage he was in, each time, was not for him - like a moment of clarity. When Camille was saying, yet again, that it was over, she was done, she wanted a divorce (on the day of his Mother's funeral), he had a lightbulb moment and realised HE was done with the marriage. That's how I interpreted what he meant.

[@Pe6ek]

At what point do you say it is?

[@totallyrandom1126]

@@Pe6ek Maybe after the first failure it’s really time to reevaluate the necessity to do it all again..

[@anne-mariezack]

I was married for 20 yrs & it’s hard work for sure!

[@CoachGregAdams]

Until he stops seeking validation through women he will never be at peace. ✌🏾

[@DoctorSpicy]

CoachGregAdams He who controls his flesh becomes the Master

[@DoctorSpicy]

👊🏽

[@brightmamba889]

He needs to read "Good Bye Mr Nice Guy"

[@Thulgore]

It's not "validation through women", it's learning what your ego is. Ego is just as destructive as depression.

[@jakemf1]

CoachGregAdams well said

[@00Mindi00]

I too am someone who loved broken women. They came to me like a magnet from my 20s, right up to my late 30s. Now I'm 44. I made a decision a few years ago that I needed to break the exhausting cycle. I'd often blame the broken souls I'd attract, but eventually I looked hard in the mirror and realised IT WAS ME. It was MY FAULT that this cycle kept repeated and that it was ME that was broken - I had to stop trying to fix others, and fix myself. "You are what you attract" is all too true. So I adjusted myself. And adjusted and adjusted and adjusted. Heal, heal, heal. Now I'm with someone who is NOT broken or toxic, because I'm no longer broken or toxic myself. Healthy you = healthy relationship. That's not to say we don't have challenges and things to work on - we ALWAYS do. There's always some growth and evolution happening. But if we want our relationships healthy, we have to make OURSELVES healthy. Now having said all that - I also don't advocate or justify his choices... his selection of partners says a lot about himself, and there's some narcissism that's evident. However, he DOES sound like he's looking hard at himself and that he's moving towards some kind of peace.

[@GoldenLight22]

people do marry the same person over and over until they see the pattern. He sounds very self aware

[@oscarwilliamson1264]

Magic Mountain,you look stunning 🌹 🌹🌷 🌷🌷🌺 🌺🌷 🌷🌺 🌺🥀🌹🌹 🌷🥀

[@kjbennie9245]

It makes them happy though....as crazy as it sounds....glutton for punishment I suppose

[@betsybabf748]

But they aren't bad until he's cheating and wants to bash to excuse his poor behavior. Not sure most adults would view that as self aware lol.

[@elizabethgrogan8553]

@@betsybabf748 Well said. He found a working class Welsh woman who he can utterly control. Kate is his slave. She is blinded by love & he went to extreme lengths to make sure her accent was corrected.

[@Hummingbirds2023]

My sister sure did, she married 3 times, the same person just all three were different colors.

[@ChrissyloveUK]

People sit in judgement and its hard if you have been cheated on but we all have to be honest with ourselves. My Ex Husband cheated on me but it was inevitable due to us just becoming different people and being a mis match from the beginning, he just happened to choose the right person while we were married because we both didn't know how to leave each other or communicate it. He married her and is still with her 20 years later. I acted like the spurned wife for a while but then I had a good chat with myself and realised it was just how it was and he did the right thing doing what he did. I moved on and remarried the right person. Being honest with yourself is where it starts. 🙏

[@ericeandco]

There’s no excuse for cheating and it’s never ok. Get a divorce and do it the right way.

[@psychicbyinternet]

It's still wrong to cheat. He could have done the right thing and asked for a divorce before dating other people even if it's hard to do.

[@angeleyes3386]

A narcissist will always say you are the abusive one when you stand up for yourself.

[@janetomes6481]

100%

[@sylvianavafranks3242]

Definitely!!

[@LolaClo]

You got that right! They are the worst “victims” while inflicting the worst pain! I hope his kids are living healthy, balanced lives.

[@gguzman8661]

Projecting all the way.

[@Katya_Lastochka]

You guys are talking in general terms, but do you actually have proof he was abusive or something?

[@Heather11268]

His present wife had an affair with him for over a year and got pregnant, knowing he was married and had children, so she is far from perfect. sounds selfish and self-centered both of them.

[@elisagajewska6738]

Maybe she is narcissistic too

[@mtadams2009]

Lets be honest if he was common man, she would never be with him. Money has its privilege.

[@joshin436]

I know right, I'm sure Camille is no angel either but they were having an affair and kept it a secret too!

[@liliesfahani209]

She needed money with M

[@Jinka1950]

Yep. He was an abusive husband. Who driven. Demanding movie star who.

[@dewilew2137]

I met him and Camille in about 2006/at a Starbucks in New Jersey. Camille is from the town I grew up in, and they were in town visiting her parents. They were both very kind, and he signed an autograph for me with “cheers, Kelsey grammer”. He ordered a caramel Frappuccino, paid with a $50 bill, and left all the change in the tip jar.

[@gottalovetheinternet]

Wow. That’s lovely

[@kiwijohnson3661]

What's the point

[@karinalombrozo3257]

He had major major trauma that no human can withstand properly without professional help!! Just his sister’s tragic death alone!!!

[@biancahotca3244]

That’s no excuse. I know many who have lost a lot more and haven’t done the sickening things he’s done. He’s self centered.

[@mariahoulihan9483]

@@biancahotca3244 its a reason.

[@mariahoulihan9483]

what I find sickening is your lack of compassion.. from the sidelines.

[@tinadraper9143]

@@mariahoulihan9483 look it up, experiencing trauma is one thing narcissist have in common, they shut off emotionally and become abusers and cheaters

[@tatianagranger2427]

Let’s remember that we don’t know these people and they will never care, much less read these comments. But we DO care and we WILL probably read them, so let’s be nicer to the actual people we r interacting with, rather than attacking them.

[@sandrar852]

Fear of rejection causes one to seek out a person that they think they can save. Subconsciously this is a form of control, thinking that the person will recognize your value. It does not work that way. All relationships require a level of risk and vulnerability. At some point you have to look for a partner and not someone needing your soul to feed their ego.

[@oscarwilliamson1264]

Sandra R,you look stunning 🌹 🌹🌷 🌷🥀🌺🥀🌺🌹 🌹🥀 🥀🌷

[@kimberlycam1172]

Right on, Saundra! Great analytics.

[@BLOVES]

Damn you said that so well.

[@thebrowithnoname1703]

Great post!

[@jamiehess4211]

This man has lived a very hard life. God bless him.

[@isabellavalencia8026]

Are you being sarcastic?

[@MG-rg3jo]

​@@isabellavalencia8026 A brutal life. His father was murdered in St Thomas. His sister was kidnapped, raped and murdered by a serial killer and his two half brothers died in a scuba accident.

[@courtdash362]

He’s such a great actor it’s hard to tell if he’s acting here while talking about being a victim. But here is the deal.. You will never find true peace if you’re bashing your children’s mothers. The kids are the ones they get hurt.

[@anthonyanthony2963]

How many times have you been divorced?

[@MBsmiley]

Yeap exactly its not gunna do any good underneath it all

[@liselasalle5638]

Exactly. Bashing the mother of your children in public shows his true nature.

[@Scorchy666]

See, you saw through him as well. He's one cold character.

[@andreaandrea6716]

Really? You can't tell if he's being authentic? It's the very first time I've ever seen him looking completely happy and completely composed. Always before, he seemed unsettled ... or putting on a show. HERE, he seems absolutely contented and at peace. It's palpable. Also, I think there's a difference between 'bashing someone' and simply expressing the truth. How is it that we are supposed to protect people who have hurt us over and over and over and over? How does that make sense? I believe his children are grown up. And probably KNOW the dynamics. To LIE about it, pretending that someone (who is abusive) is NOT abusive ... is a little crazy.

[@Mexicobeanpole]

I’ve seen this same type of interview with him several times before. He seems to obsessed with bad mouthing his ex wives. He says he married the same type person...3 times!! I don’t buy it. The common denominator was him. He’s the problem, or at least a huge part of it., but he will spend the rest of his life blaming them. Sad really. Loved him as an actor though.

[@dawnaustin4556]

Yup, he’s a sham

[@JeanetteFaith]

Yep! I loved him an actor, but I'm not buying his 'poor me' life. He blames his former wives for everything. Could he possibly have been at fault? And wife #4??? She looks just like the others. hmm.........

[@pennytyson4358]

Beach Town Reseller true

[@jonathanxavier2026]

You understand that he's describing abuse he has faced in the relationship and you choose to characterise this as 'bad mouthing his ex-wives'? Even more shocking that you seem to be justifying the abuse by saying he's the common denominator and that he's unfairly blaming them. Good to know you're an apologist for domestic violence.

[@amalhasan6180]

He is narcissistic

[@drinkingpoolwater]

i respect kelsey for admitting he always fell for the same person. it takes a lot just to admit to mistakes

[@hziegler]

It shows he's a moron

[@Butterfly22593]

Yeah, but his ex wives are the ones that made the mistake

[@sandrajoiner19]

Speaking badly about your ex-wives when u cheated is just low. I used to think Kelsey was better than that, but I haven’t thought that in years.

[@mariahoulihan9483]

didn;t you see Camille talking badly about him.. endlessly on Housewives?

[@jakevendrotti1496]

Just watch a couple interviews with his ex-wives and you'll know what you need to know. Camille in particular.

[@DeviatingVapors]

divorce nor cheating exist in a vacuum, but when you are happy / satisfied .. who would cheat exactly ... someone who wants it to end.

[@Emily-ce6iz]

He cheated on his wife and got married to his mistress 2 weeks after his divorce was finalized. Abuse? Bye.

[@mrs.bforlife9279]

Right he got what he deserves. Camille waa never my favorite but he was was wrong

[@sarastewart2633]

@@mrs.bforlife9279 not a fan of hers by any means either but this man is conveniently forgetting about all his poor behaviour choices

[@thebohobabe281]

Exactly

[@vegasgirl3538]

Right? Camille was never my favorite, but she's didn't cheat and abandon her children. Kelsey was shacked up and starting a new family before the ink on the divorce papers was dry.

[@Chutney1luv]

And his wife did not know a thing! He was doing a play in N.Y.! How convenient!🙄

[@Hamigal]

Never his fault. The common denominator in those marriages is you Kelsey

[@LAMBERTHEHAMMER9]

Abuse towards men needs to be addressed. It's out of control.🇨🇦

[@wookinooki9023]

firstly by the victims themselves. recognizing, admitting, leaving and maybe prosecuting.

[@chinadoll534]

Way more abuse towards women since the beginning of time

[@LAMBERTHEHAMMER9]

@@chinadoll534 lol. What does that have to do with what's going on now? More women make up stories of abuse these days, then there are actual victims.

[@chinadoll534]

@@LAMBERTHEHAMMER9 I guess you haven’t been watching the news. Way more women are being slaughtered by insecure, depressed self hatred men. I know you don’t like hearing it but it’s a fact. Take yourself out of the equation. It’s okay for you to say abuse towards men are out of control, but it’s not okay for me to say way more abuse and killings are being done by men. Take you’re feelings out of this. It’s a fact

[@LAMBERTHEHAMMER9]

@@chinadoll534 think what you want, but no one cares about a man being abused by his partner. No one cares. I've watched many times in person with my own eyes. Men getting smacked around by their female partner and he goes to jail. You can talk numbers all you want but this is a fact. Imagine a man beating the hell out of his wife and the cops take her away and throw her in jail. Just imagine that happening every day in every city. 🧠💭🤔

[@aprilized]

all his wives look the same... Sad, he marries ideas, not people

[@expatlifestyle6069]

april68 he married the same person in 3 different bodies. This guy is a real winner 😂 Kate is hanging in for the payout 😂😂😂

[@pauljalbert]

april68 - We are all different and unique. Judge not lest thou be judged. Live and let live.

[@discoshart]

Don’t we all

[@Kdizzy]

I think that's a very common issue...most people engage in relationships with familiar personality traits and dynamics. We subconsciously seek familiarity, healthy or not, and we actually fall in "love" with concepts and and our own perceptions of their potential vs the actual person.

[@anthonyanthony2963]

Dear, lord, almighty..... WHY ARE YOU SHEEPLE STILL HERALDING MARRIAGE...... HELLO... ANYBODY HOME... IT DOESNT WORK.... LOVE IS FREE AND CLEAR... YOU DONT NEED A CONTRACT... PERIOD... YALL ATE RIGHT INTO THE PALM OF THE STATE.... I FEEL SORRY FOR YOUR IQ's

[@bleugaze]

I hear everything he said. It's all true. Whether is happened exactly like he sad or not, the cycyle of abuse is broken not when you aren't afraid anymore, but when you finally realize what you're in is so bad, it's worth risking something new and unknown than staying here, bc this doesn't work. That realization comes at different times for people in different ways. It's never too late heed it

[@AURORATHEANIMATOR]

I love Kelsey Grammar. He's a flawed human being, like us all. That's what makes him so relatable 💓

[@sarastewart2633]

Pity he didn't take any responsibility for his flaws and just bashed his wives here. I would have loved to have seen some evidence that he haa grown.

[@SandraLovesSun]

I appreciate what you are saying. At the same time, I am glad to have confirmation that I am healthier now than I used to be because this is not relatable to me.

[@petergianakopoulos4926]

I cant relate

[@flowersintartarus]

has nobody watch housewives of BeverleyHills? 1st season, you can see Camilles heartbreak because HE WAS CHEATING

[@carriechinn8104]

He cheated on all of them I think.

[@damlosh87]

@Nick sorry what does that mean?

[@kiriforever1]

Talia Wharton :I am not a fan of Camille’s at all.

[@lorettabridges7751]

I love Kelsey for all the pleasure he has given me by his performances. I wish him well.

[@anthonysirianni2083]

There are 3 sides to every story....

[@GourmetGilda]

Two sides to every story.

[@jbeebs1]

GourmetGilda three

[@ShallowDepression]

At least 2.

[@MrsACare]

@Carolyn thompson words right outta my keyboard lol... was also thinking to quote the great philosopher Dr. Phil..."not matter how flat you make a pancake there is always two sides"

[@FaithandNova]

One side, the truth

[@r.ridderbusch7303]

In this case there are *FIVE* sides to the story. "Two sides to every story" is bs. Think of 10 witnesses to a car accident.

[@elizabethharris156]

You decided you were done with wife number 3 so you started having an affair. Good one.

[@reginasemenenko148]

Exactly.

[@Truthbtold44]

She was a drama queen.

[@wesleythompson7]

😂😂 basically yes that what he did

[@debbiemacaluso2089]

He screwed Camille royally. The 30mill she got was well deserved. He didn't care that he was cheating on her and then pretending on Camera that all was well regardless of how awkward those scenes were when he was performing in NYC and Camille went to see him. He just thinks he's the cats meow. WRONG!!!

[@MrsGray-67]

Camille is a gaslighter. Their son Jude has even chosen to live with his Dad and his wife Kayte, not Camille. I've never "bought" into Camille's version of their marriage.

[@monas.6839]

The unrealistic expectations he speaks of...perhaps being faithful to one’s wife is unrealistic to him. 🤬😕

[@Scorchy666]

Right? I'm so annoyed at Bensinger just sitting there not doing more. His exes put up with so much crap, yet he is the victim of abuse. If I found myself married to someone like that i'd be throwing glasses as well.

[@Katya_Lastochka]

@@Scorchy666 Talking like an abusive spouse already.

[@rosemarycarlyle5918]

Being faithful to his current wife will soon be unrealistic to him when he discovers some new information about her.

[@Michael-hc2vs]

Why be faithful to an abuser?

[@janeyd5280]

@@Scorchy666 he took to alcohol.

[@cherylb2008]

The fourth wife must have balls of steel because that man is very chaotic inside. He’s got a lot of very difficult things he’s had to overcome. I hope he really does cultivate peace in his life.

[@jhpvids]

The most honest person about his short comings and flaws. Great interview.

[@sarastewart2633]

Huh? Did we just watch the same thing. He basically just blamed his wives and all he did was pick the wrong women. He a used drugs, cheated, was emotionally abusive and whatever else we don't know. Total lack of self awareness.

[@desiretesi1723]

Jean H Pierre honesty bashing his children’s mothers?

[@jhpvids]

He didn't really have a great relationship with these women. Yes I agree it is wrong to bash them publicly.

[@lullubelljingles9567]

He cheated on Camille who helped him thru addiction a heart attack and then refused to speak to her after he dumped her for a flight attendant. Refused to co parent with Camille for the children. He was horrible to her even if you don't like her no-one deserves what He did to her. She begged him not to leave.

[@karamlevi]

He sound like a divorce court single mom. Maybe he’s a female? - )

[@dougdavis8986]

Were you there?

[@Canyoutakemebackwhereicamefrom]

That's what we know from housewives but think she is a little actor too she really doesn't come across genuine either.. not excusing the cheating. But no one really knows what happens in marriage unless they are there.

[@somchai9033]

Two sides to every story

[@sosad9381]

@@Canyoutakemebackwhereicamefrom that's true. And she was so wannabe Hollywood. Remember her music video? She really thought Kelsey would make her a star. She did not give off love vibes

[@AnnieWarbux]

He shared his great talents, he kept us laughing and all the while he was badly mistreated at home?! As a survivor myself, I know the feeling of thinking you're responsible, somehow, especially when the abuser says "I'm sorry but, why did you make me do it?" In order to overcome such a toxic situation, you have to believe that you are worth more. Your own peace in life cannot be found until you can move on and away from such people. I'm so glad that he is, now, his own man, along side and with a fantastic lady!

[@e13kid]

The dude was cheating left right and center. He was a piece of shit who created a toxic marriage through his actions.

[@aceharris1463]

e13kid Imagine victim shaming and slut shaming Kelsey.

[@sosad9381]

@@e13kid you must never have watched her on the Real Housewives shell. Because she was an awful person!

[@alice86142]

I appreciate Kelsey's honesty. Yes, he's been married four times, but some people learn their soul lessons quicker than others. Everyone has shadows, so some of the comments on here are quite sad. Maybe you can all judge when you're perfect yourselves.

[@lesliemoore2644]

Classic narcissist, nothing is ever their fault!

[@lisaporter7474]

Nothing is EVER the woman’s fault! Ever ! Said every wronged woman out there lmao.

[@smokesgtp]

Narcissists would never discuss their shortcomings in the manner he does in this interview.

[@smokesgtp]

@S Robin the majority of our shortcomings are caused by others. Namely, our parents. Watch the whole interview

[@quezcatol]

@S Robin oh yeah, she isnt a narcist at all, why did she do playboy, become a gogo dancer and marry someone older? because she only had her body or was looking for fame and money? even rumor that she was working as an escort in new york, but we cant prove/disprove that.

[@dawnclements9644]

Covert narcissist?

[@Counselingforlife]

“Girl”... red flag 🚩

[@quezcatol]

@Alissa Michelle france president´s wife is 25 year older than him, I hope you tell her she is gross as well.

[@somebody4244]

quezcatol she was his teacher too so you have a very good point

[@ayannag4760]

Sabrina Kindell Exactly! A wise girl??? He can’t even muster the ability to call her a woman? Geez 😒

[@ACS402010]

@Alissa Michelle Oh go sit the hell down with your foolishness.

[@MultiAlanR]

Imagine not being upset about him being abused, but very upset when he utters one word

[@DinGrogu16]

I know exactly what Kelsey means about not feeling good enough and letting people drown. I've felt like that a lot of my life.

[@betsybabf748]

His wives kept marrying a cheater, and from how he treated them when he betrayed them, he is very clearly abusive. His newest sounds like a perfect match. Funny how his last wife did wonderfully when he was gone and hw he behaved was a horrific example for his children.

[@lyndam1276]

We all deserve great things, I’m so happy for Kelsey that he has found his. He has given us years of joy …glad he’s receiving his. Great interview. Thank you both !just keep living in the moment.

[@9395gb]

He seems narcissistic. He cheated on his ex wife with this woman. Doubt this relationship will last.

[@lyndam1276]

@@9395gb I try to live optimistically 😊

[@pehash]

I like how open he is.. someone of his notoriety sharing life lessons, i think its valuable.

[@ladymaiden2308]

I love how he rarely allows the interviewer to finish a sentence. Super charming.

[@dlxmarks]

Having a wife younger than you? Standard. Having a wife nearly the same age as one of your kids? Tricky. Having 3 kids younger than your grandchild? Um. Having a father-in-law younger than you? Oh boy.

[@Mrsteisag2]

David Marks lmao

[@schrodingerscat3912]

that's literally almost my Dad lol

[@Jeff-Vader_head_of_catering]

Its funny how people love to poke fun at the things they're jealous of.

[@dlxmarks]

@@Jeff-Vader_head_of_catering Jealous of Kelsey's love life? Any potential wives 25 years my junior are currently in first grade. But that gives me plenty of time to get married and divorced 3 times first.

[@Michelle-pn9xt]

Ha1 Ha! Ha1 All funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@lauries383]

Great interview. There is that old saying “you draw what you are”. When he got better and worked on his personal growth he drew that same kind of woman. Good for him!

[@oscarwilliamson1264]

Laurie S, you look stunning 🌹 🌹🌷 🌷🥀🥀 🥀🌺 🌺🌷 🌷🥀🌹 🌹🌷 🌷🌹 🌹

[@elisscaliving4776]

You are what you attract

[@MsNooneinparticular]

Shades of narcissism here. He had a horrifically tragic/traumatic background but it's clear he plays major mind games, if not is full-on abusive in other ways.

[@kut52]

You clearly have no idea what narcissism as a mental disorder actually is. This tragic/traumatic background however is a really strong indication for why his relationships have failed as they have however.

[@Scorchy666]

He came across as a massive gaslighter to me. Did terrible things to upset his (ex)wives, then cry how abused and mistreated he was. It will be fun to watch once this marriage crashes and burns.

[@tinadraper9143]

@@kut52 traumatic childhoods are usually what makes people narcissist, hurt people hurt people

[@diamondhead5432101]

He is exactly like someone I know who also seeks validation through women, unfortunately.

[@matthewronsson]

He had to get past those mirages and distractions that he imposed upon himself to finally allow a woman with some emotional intelligence in his life.

[@noreenperez8666]

Just a human condition,that's way counseling before marriage is a yes,yes.

[@diamondhead5432101]

@@noreenperez8666 Marriage? Anyone who marries in 2019 and beyond is making a big mistake they they'll pay for in divorce down the road

[@odaydrums]

maybe have him watch this and see there is a better way

[@gigid9606]

@@diamondhead5432101 thats pretty negative. I mean what about all those young girls looking to mate with a rich guy, have his baby, and get child support? Surely those girls have a reason for getting married, so they can sit on their ass for 18 years and collect child support

[@Elizabeth-nl5ui]

I had a difficult time following this because it was a line up of skipping around real answers. It was like trying to solve a riddle.

[@Scorchy666]

He owns up to nothing, that's why.

[@tatianagranger2427]

He’s good at double talk. U think he’s answering the question and opening up when u realize he’s just bobbing and weaving! Each woman was fairly the same bc he keeps marrying them when they are early to mid twenties. This is just a speculation. If I’ve learned anything in life & marriage, and I’ve been married 23 years today, I’ve learned that there are only a couple people who know the truth of a marriage, and I’m even then they are biased bc they are the ones who are married. U just never know.

[@Remetski2401]

I love Kelsey! Years of fun and laughter and pure genius

[@mp5249]

Not quite buying the victim role.

[@Breseinamaris]

Not quite buying the victim? He was the abusee.

[@kut52]

It actually surprises me to read that almost all of the comments here blame Kelsey for being in this abusive relationship. But quite truthfully, not being in his position and having his perspective, you can't really understand why he was in that relationship and having a broken relationship like that does make you do things you wouldn't want to do. It makes you seek validation while simultaneously self-destructing and doing things you are not proud of. It is really difficult to get yourself out of this vicious circle and somebody watching from afar may think that he is just finding excuses for himself, but so often it is really difficult to step away from the abuse and until you can really do it, you just step back into that circle until you have the mental fortitude to overcome it and actually make a change. It is so easy to comment as somebody not in that situation, I do hope that none of the commentators end up in such a situation but perhaps it would allow the perspective necessary to understand him. #MenareAbusedtoo

[@howard5992]

People like to judge. He's being attacked for things that are projected onto him. I guess folks know "too much" about his personal life and they want to / feel compelled to assign blame. Maybe doing so helps them feel as though they have "explained" who he is and what motivates him (things that we really can't easily know in someone who is only a celebrity to us and who is not a close personal friend or family member).

[@jv-ep2tc]

@@howard5992 agreed with you and kut52. was surprised by the lack of sophistication vis a vis the remarks. i have a feeling they are jealous of KG success and feel better about themselves by putting him down. Seems to be alot of that going around.

[@lanamanchester1319]

Very well said I agree w/everything you stated in your post. Camille wasn't the "angel" that some people think she was & probably everything they heard was from that reality housewives show that Camille was on -- all they do on those shows is start drama & gossip about each other & bitch about their ex-husbands, & flaunt all the money they get from ex-husbands while making money on the stupid show.

[@misscleo378]

@@lanamanchester1319 He completely gaslight Camille. He was the one who got her onto the show, in fact wanted her on it because he was cheating on her and wanted her to be distracted. Men like him can mentally and emotionally abuse women to the point that they go crazy. He was abused by his second wife not Camille. He’s a good at convincing people he is the victim, but never gave Camille credit for helping him with sobriety.

[@NightCalls001]

@@misscleo378 so you are a therapist?

[@jasong9502]

Kelsey is totally right, you rationalize that it is your fault... that you’ve wronged them one how. It’s not until you realize nothing will change ever, they’ll just keeping holding you down.

[@cherieharley4532]

Kelsey, stop trashing the mother of 2 of your children, that's got to hurt them. She may have been a pain, but you were unfaithful, so put on your big boy pants and own your own part in the mess. From what you said yourself, she helped you straighten out your finances. This wasn't your first rodeo, so don't play the victim. Everyone knows better.

[@Merbella]

Well said. Married 4 times, victimized 4 times! 🤔

[@gracebathurst2465]

3 wife’s…has to keep having children to keep wives trapped? …unfaithful… powerful? Controlling? Manipulative? Never see the wife in public ? playing the victim? abusive? I don’t know…..oh…and he likes that ecstatic state of love? Powerful? Ummmmmmm.. been there done that…

[@endthemandates2567]

Thank you for letting Mr Grammer talk without interrupting him.

[@caseymaddox435]

Idk why Graham only has 375k subscribers. He’s a bad ass at interviewing. Love his channel. And also love you Kelsey! KNOW YOUR WORTH!! Don’t ever let someone treat you like that!!! Emotionally and physically draining. I’m so glad a MAN is talking about this with a platform. This is good shit. And you look amazing!

[@jennybrandt5188]

"Kate's a wise girl," Kelsey said. Until she isn't.

[@Scorchy666]

Clearly she just believes every word he says (or pretends to) and doesn't question him the way his ex wives did.

[@suzannejohnstone1810]

Kelsey Grammer has always been a favorite actor of mine. I am so happy that his life is in a great place with a love that it took half a lifetime to find. God bless you ❤️

[@oscarwilliamson1264]

Suzanne Johnstone, you look gorgeous 🌹 🌹🌷 🌷🥀🥀 🥀🌷🌹🌷 🌷🌷🌷🥀🥀 🥀🌷

[@SweetBlackSistah]

I think HE'S the emotionally abusive one

[@mavis5949]

Ms. Sharon TRUE!

[@petrinametivier9214]

@@mavis5949 i

[@peterj.andros3996]

I think HE'S an actor. All actor's are head cases, neurotic, narcissistic, balls of jelly. It takes two to tango in life and so I'm only giving him credit for 50% for his marital experience, good and bad.

[@forpetessake3532]

Ms. Sharon And you know HOW ?

[@forpetessake3532]

Mavis and you ! You know how ?

[@belgiumgirl8970]

Don’t buy it..nothing is his fault. What are you going to say about her when you find somebody new and younger

[@ceecee8757]

Too late. He already has! She's 26 years younger.

[@karamlevi]

Lol, they just had a better fit.

[@robeson1231]

He's literally cited his faults in this vid 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@ericam6041]

Love how he hides behind his “therapy” Apparently the therapist didn’t touch on his narcissism

[@HONEST.HOUR.]

Definitely a narcissist 100% this is a evil man

[@TEAMGETHELP]

But my pornstar ex gf told me she's not a narcissist because narcissists can't go to therapy 😂😂

[@anne-mariezack]

It’s all relative. According to Hollywood standards, this guy is not a narcissist rather he is “driven, ambitious, intense, passionate” etc. Good on you for your insight.

[@FranktheTank70]

Kelsey is a smart man that has lived life. His honesty and humility are refreshing.

[@gehran9080]

So easy to spot a narcissist. It’s everyone’s fault but his own 🙄

[@jonathanxavier2026]

Well yeah seeing how he's talking about domestic violence at the hands of a woman it's not his fault, it's the fault of the abuser. Easy to spot psychopaths like you, though.

[@elainemclaughlin9417]

I don't think you know the meaning of psychopath? But I was married to a narcissist for five, longgggg years. And this guy IS ONE!!

[@debbiemacaluso2089]

Amen to that!

[@MrsGray-67]

Camille is ALSO a narcissist, & gaslighter - so this marriage was never going to last the distance. Kayte is a passive person, not aggressive like Camille, which is why their union is working well. He looks the happiest he's been in 30 years.

[@myself9084]

Regardless he has feelings and has had terrible loss and trauma in his life.

[@donniecurry7460]

Mr. Grammar....I salute you, sir. U will never ever realize how important you were and are to your TRUE fans!!! Me being one such. I tip my hat to u, sir.

[@karenzirk6800]

If this was a woman telling the story everyone would take her side. Of course it always takes two, but I think Kelsey is very brave and candid to open up about his past. He has showed amazing class not talking about his 3rd wife to the media. I believe he is sincere and real.. Best wishes for the future.

[@SeanFication]

@Jennifer Coburn You're a self-centered loon.

[@ntodaro50]

You are so right!!!

[@funbrandi2603]

Oh he's talked plenty about her. He cheated on her and dumped her immediately rubbing the new woman in her face very publicly. He had Kate dress up as a broke down Camille for Halloween. He's always says the "right" things but he was no abused victim.

[@psychicbyinternet]

Honestly no. With abuse there will always be human fecal matter trying to blame the victim, male or female. However men are less likely to be believed or supported because of how men are perceived in society. Abuse victims in general need way more support.

[@KathyTOEFLTeacherLessons]

I am glad he found someone who makes him happy.

[@reginaleath9410]

He needs to stop lying! He cheated on his previous wife with the wife he has now!

[@pamostman516]

So did Biden, so did Bruce Springsteen, etc.

[@judyivie4181]

Probably because she was awful.

[@Synthisized]

@@pamostman516 wrong

[@NRQ-zv5bp]

@@pamostman516 biden's wife died along with two of his children in a crash

[@butterflygirl2285]

I do know trauma affects people in different ways, so I do have compassion. None of us are perfect. But, I do not approve of someone secretly cheating on his/her spouse before a divorce is final.

[@mariahoulihan9483]

and your approval of another persons actions is jugemental.. pure and simple. I do not approve of anyone being judgemental. Approve... get over yourself.

[@butterflygirl2285]

@@mariahoulihan9483 IMO - lying to a spouse about fidelity is generally not a good idea. However, You are free to think as you wish. We will just have to agree to disagree.

[@funbrandi2603]

@@butterflygirl2285 You are correct and putting it mildly. If all he did was cheating it would have been bad wrong and life goes on Instead he has talked very negatively and publicly about her, mocked her grief and disrespected his children. Kate wouldn't be there if he was broke.

[@jsma5503]

When he was talking about tattoo, and said if he happens to cheat! WOW!

[@rosemarycarlyle5918]

I didn't watch the whole video. He really said "if I happen to cheat"? OMG! The next woman in his life will probably be a pretty mixed-race or black Lady. I believe that relationship will last. Johnny depth had his tattoo removed, so it won't be hard for Kelsey to do the same.

[@Crissy_tina]

Yes! I caught that what a disgusting couple!

[@amandabyrne1]

He didn’t just cheat he got his mistress pregnant while he was still with Camille and on housewives. He was arrogant that he had refused to LET Camille do housewives but when he knew he was going to leave her he said it was his parting gift to her!! He’s an ass!!

[@JMc-mj1dy]

I just can't blame a man for a pregnancy. Kayte made that happen. Talk about manipulation!

[@Maggie1952]

Camille was one of the silliest, phoniest, most shallow women I've ever seen in my life. Awful. She spent money like water, had a nanny for each child and did not even carry her own children, a surrogate mother did. Awful. I understand why Kelsey ran far away from this airhead.

[@Butterfly22593]

@@Maggie1952 So what if she spent money? She earned if from running her successful production company so she spend it however she wants.

[@normagordon1375]

@@Maggie1952 , have to agree with you there. I always thought that relationship was forced and uncomfortable. Cheating is always wrong but sometimes behaviors push you into the wrong space and you screw up while trying to figure it out. Glad he finally got it right!

[@psychicbyinternet]

@@Maggie1952 Ok but can you refute that he cheated? Seems like you're trying to distract.

[@Ralph_Sandwich]

He loves socialite bimbos and until he can start seeing real women it's gonna be the same broken record.

[@MirageMusicUk]

He's finally married a woman who isn't like that, Katie is lovely.

[@Ralph_Sandwich]

@@MirageMusicUk I hope so. He's an incredibly intelligent man that deserves a loving and supportive woman in his life. He definitely has a type tho lol she looks just like the rest of his exes. They could all be sisters.

[@MirageMusicUk]

@@Ralph_Sandwich He definitely does, he must have a lot of shit in his head considering what he's been through, plus the cocaine use which I defend because its a way off escapism, but his choice of women were terrible, I hope he's found the one, she doesn't seem like she wants the fame like Camille did.

[@moorishg]

So true! Saw him at a laker game years back and he was totally wasted but still a super cool ass dude and nice but he had a crazy looking bimbo with him half his age which is no probkem being young but its the young and crazy bimbos that will kill you

[@jaymufasa6535]

Real women lol 😂

[@vampireslayer1989]

Codependent people pleasers and rescuers...…...attract Cluster B Abusers. Interesting interview.

[@karamlevi]

Strong 🥗🔥🥩 have salad and filet mignon ...

[@bethankrzowski4553]

Cluster B Abusers are also often codependant at times...the lines are so blurred we put too many people into these identity defining categories and then they are almost dammed by the diagnosis, the label itself. Not sure if all these subjective names and ideas for things and the way people are is always helpful.

[@carolynkimbleparkhurst605]

Kelsey you are an awesome person and Iam so glad you finally found true happiness!

[@oscarwilliamson1264]

Carolyn Kimble Parkhurst, you look stunning 🌹 🌹🌺🌷🥀🥀 🥀🌷🌷 🌹🌹🌷 🌷🌷🌺 🌺

[@pb4531]

I love how he talks about the "explosion" but not what triggered her to react. He's an actor it shows.

[@user-ef5id9km3p]

I was just thinking the same thing. He’s good at blaming the ex wives and playing the victim but not once has he talked about the role he played in his failed marriages.

@@user-ef5id9km3p Well, he did, actually.

[@davidbundgaard]

How do you reason? What is your argument that the men is at fault and not the woman? Men can easily be in an abusive relationship that doesn’t make it taboo and that doesn’t mean men should be quiet about it either. Please reconsider your logic and look outside your own world.

[@sosad9381]

@@user-ef5id9km3p If You Ever Seen The Real Housewives with Camille in it, you'll she's an awful person! That's the only reason I thank it wasn't him.

[@blesseddaughter7622]

Good for you Kelsey for getting out of an abusive relationship. Nobody deserves to be in one. No matter who you are.

[@Robsay01]

Bad choices in women u want to be with. You’re part of the blame and more than u think.

[@alohalivin556]

Robsay01 he does choose horribly, thus he is the problem. If you keep choosing witches, your choices are the issue. But the next woman tells him it’s not you sweetheart, it’s her. But if you are old those young women looking for your money and fame will trade you for that ego talk ;-)

[@NightCalls001]

Did you listen to this? He has admitted his guilt and faults.

[@freemind5855]

Some of these comments are truely sad. The man stated that one of his exs shot a gun at him, gave him a black eye and yet people are blameing him for marrying that woman. He said himself the early marriages were a mistake he made, marrying an unstable spouse to "save them" is a tragic mistake many of us have done. As someone who also made the mistake of marrying to "save" someone I can not begin to express how much of a mistake it is. When you're with a spouse that you're trying to "save" it is like your life is on hold, the relief when you leave that situation feels like you can breath again, live again. Kelsey is a brave man for shareing his experiance with us.

[@christianone6611]

Yes, I agree with you IF his story is true. I think some people doubt it because of stories that have circulated over the years about his terrible behavior. Certain things he says sound like things a covert narcissist would say. So people aren't sure who the abuser really is. Maybe it was both of them.

[@lindagoodwin6166]

Kelsey's life has been full of tragedy. His sister was murdered. His father was murdered as well. I'm sure that has something to do with his failed relationships and past drug abuse. I'm not going to judge him because I haven't walked in his shoes.

[@EmmaWalsh40]

Don get me wrong I’m not saying that this didn’t happen but I would feel a lot more empathy for this man if he stopped being an ass to Camille. I think they still talk through lawyers

[@karamlevi]

Linda Goodwin his sister and dad were murdered and his one wife shot a gun at him? Who the fuck would ever bother this guy with negative words and shit comments??? He has wild karma and is lucky to be alive... bless him and I hope he keeps living learning and improving. I’m not judging that dude, I’m applauding him 👏🏽

[@sierracharlie7293]

I wonder if Lilith watched this...

[@rachaelm7084]

That gave me a chuckle

[@winnifredforbes8712]

S C Maybe he should have married Lilith!

[@cw9515]

😂

[@daryl6659]

Lilith was his first wife. Lol

[@reginasemenenko148]

Lilith wouldn't take any of his CRAP!

[@kimlove7520]

Thank for your honesty, open conversation like this helps so many. Him and Kate look happy, healthy,loving and true, Good to see he has good now, always lessons We learn , Self love is very important, Peace and love!!!

[@monicamoreira8863]

Brilliant actor, brilliant speaker and brilliantly funny. So sorry to hear this. We all go through these miserable times. Take care Mr. Grammer. God Bless you.

[@hziegler]

He's an abuser

[@HettiedeKorteDiplomaat]

I’m so happy for him. He’s looking better than 20 years ago.

[@oscarwilliamson1264]

Hettie de Korte,you are absolutely gorgeous 🌹 🌹🌷 🌷🌷🌺 🌺🌷 🌷🥀🌺🥀🥀 🥀🌹 🌹🌷 🌷

[@karamlevi]

You a awesome woman 🍷🔥🥩

[@carolinelaronda4523]

It’s called low self esteem and codependency Kelsey . You were a match to crazy low vibration women bc you had something at your core in common . You haven’t realized anything about yourself and grew out of it until you get introspective enough to realize this .

[@MBsmiley]

Think the women he goes for are covers for his underground gay or bi cross dressing life. He's bragged about how after he explored alot of out there things sexually but didn't want to give details

[@domjones_who3849]

I'LL SAY IT FOR HIM...SHUT....THEE....FUCK....UP SILLY GIRL!!! WITH THAT PSYCHO BABBLE LOL SMH

[@carolinelaronda4523]

@@domjones_who3849 real men love my psycho babble 🤗

[@wendyjohansen6174]

@@carolinelaronda4523 What do you consider a REAL MAN?

[@carolinelaronda4523]

@@wendyjohansen6174 it’s a joke everybody calm the fuck down

[@OarsmanPower]

Great interview by Mr. Bensinger. Kelsey Grammer seems like such a genuine person. I don’t see too many celebrities answering such questions that require deep retrospection.

[@cookeeee1962]

Miss you on Frazier and Cheers, thank you for making me and my family laugh. You deserve peace and love, some of us never find it. 💛👏👏👏

[@beavacuda]

Lol, kinda like him...but this guy's been married 4x and has 7 kids. If you don't think he was the abusive one, I got a bridge to sell you

[@LolaClo]

BEAVACUDA well said! To call someone “pathetic” is mean! It takes two to tango and he doesn’t talk about what he brought to that relationship!

[@NikkiSchumacherOfficial]

BEAVACUDA my dad has also been married four times with 7 kids and is not abusive. My mom has been married 5 times- does that mean she is abusive? Nope. Just means she wasn't good at marriage. No one is perfect.

[@Justicia007]

Nope, just an enabler to controlling women, and a workaholic.

[@Justicia007]

@S Robin I don't believe in hero worshipping celebrities at all. We don't know these people at all....we should worship people who love us and take care of us, like family. I do think he's had a rough life, seems like a nice guy but who knows

[@sarastewart2633]

@@Justicia007 he abused drugs, was emotionally abusive, and cheated. He was not just a victim.

[@kittycat6195]

Goal setting. Simple goal per day. Very good advice. I knew it, but it was great to be reminded.

[@warofages4498]

Graham is a phenomenal interviewer he really does his research and dosent make an ass of him self in questioning. He’s thoughtful and respectful. Any time he pops up in my feed it’s an immediate click for me. Keep it up Graham you do an amazing job

[@Scorchy666]

What interview did you watch? Graham acted like an aroused chick.

[@noeytindol5529]

I think he was cheating on his third wife. I'm sure she'd have stories to tell about him too.

[@jessbobess2530]

S Robin she really is a scary chick. I don’t blame him at all. Glad he got out of that marriage

[@jessbobess2530]

S Robin I don’t know. She’s such a mean girl. Vicious

[@karamlevi]

It’s not cheating, it’s finding your self and needing space;-)

[@exohexoh3948]

Continuously leaving his wives for younger women? I give Kayte 10 years. He'll leave before she's 50.

[@ShellyBomb]

Well, he seems to have broken the cycle by his marriage to Kate ... I wish them every enduring happiness ~ 💗

[@robertmaylock9532]

Kelsey's ex-wife has a great case against him for slander...

[@MoeEezay]

My respect for this man keeps growing.

[@bySterling]

Hats off to Kelsey ageing very well especially considering past alcohol abuse and relationship stress and sans hollywood surgery etc 🙌🏻⚡️💪🏻💯👏🏻

[@leilanikuuipo6004]

*aging

[@Scorchy666]

Past alcohol and serious cocaine abuse. I think the relationship stress was 100% Kelsey.

[@mariahoulihan9483]

@@Scorchy666 you don;t know that.

[@cr3062]

Abuse does happen to men. It's very enlightening to do a study in cluster B personality disorders mainly narcissistic abuse and study their emotional manipulation and mind control tactics. People are waking up to this, healing and getting free.

[@drknow1997]

This is this man’s truth... whether he is lying or not. The bottom line is , he was searching for happiness outside himself. I am sure his relationship with his mother was complicated.

[@amalhasan6180]

He is narcissistic

[@kingbuck427]

You guys are describing me to a T

[@kingbuck427]

Good job Tammy

[@JAYDUB1279]

Mr. Grammar, I am thankful for you and for your career. In a saner time you would have been much bigger even though you've had a remarkable career. Graham, thank you for the high quality and humanity of your work.

[@stacyhackney6100]

I'm happy he made it through to the other side. Comfortable in his own skin, happy with himself, with his marriage, and his family. Understanding that imperfection is what we are and yet we can expect to give and receive quality care to and from loved ones, and friends.

[@CK-dp6je]

Kelsey had all the power in the marriage… He was a mega TV star for decades, and was a multimillionaire, and he married a nobody and says he was in an abusive relationship, nobody’s buying it.

[@rmiddlehouse]

Yeah. Takes two to tango. He does seem to put responsibility on others. But... its possible at the same time that he was abused.

[@mp5249]

Remember when his wife went on Real Housewives? He moved to New York and moved his bimbo into his NY apartment and pretended she was his wife while he was married to someone else. Then he tried to take full custody if the children He is the abuser.

[@kut52]

One can never see into other people's relationships, having social status does not automatically equate power in a relationship nor does it make one immune to abuse. Classic fallacy in logic which is a reason why so many don't even think that men can be abused, because how could they - men are stronger than women after all. WRONG!

[@Rainy_Day12234]

Don’t enter a relationship with someone that demands perfection, you’ll never be happy.

[@oilyshoes9969]

actually, its called co-dependent, he's not a narcissist.

[@jmichaelewan8455]

I think people can be both...?

[@linanicolia1363]

I see both.

[@Scorchy666]

Gaslighting women and then claiming you were abused is textbook narcissistic behavior.

[@judysilvio1511]

@@Scorchy666 you’re absolutely correct!

[@chrislara2037]

Why can't "celebraties" drop the drama and not talk about personal issues?

[@Czechbound]

This is a very good interview, by one of the best interviewers. He reminds me of Dick Cavett - showbusiness gets a look in, but he seems genuinely interested in having the participant share their views on life, and how they approach(ed) life and they lessons they can share. This is really, really good. And well done Mr. Grammer for being so open.

[@aceharris1463]

Czechbound Watching Dick Cavett interviewing Richard Burton on a loop. Masterful.

[@rachey5300]

This man is a broken, insecure and selfish man and he projected that onto every wife he had. He cheated, lied and abused and turns it around on the poor women. Evil.

[@andysteele5707]

This helps big time after going through a difficult abusive marriage, divorce myself. Big fan of Kelsey, and Frasier is my fave sitcom. But more so, my brother lives in portishead lol. Thanks Kelsey for this and the years of fantastic entertainment. Best wishes.