Ken Rosenthal on Dodgers Spending, Ichiro, Work Stoppage | Foul Territory

[@teranyicastillo9297]

As a Yankee fan, it's hard for me to hate the Dodgers because I would be a hypocrite. Part of me actually likes what the Dodgers are doing because they expose many of these owners.

[@MarioRuiz-v4x]

Buddy do your homework dodgers are flexing Hollywood's $ $ $ its not dodgers $ $ so relax buddy

[@vernpascal1531]

I'm a Dodger fan. Last year was magical and can't be replicated. I liked getting Roki, but it has become way too much. The salaries are insane and out of proportion. The Dodgers have finally become the Yankees. Where they can just buy and rent players other teams can't. It's like too much of a good thing. Like having a terrific huge cheesburger with all the trimmings, and a piece of strawberry cheesecake too.

[@MarioRuiz-v4x]

@vernpascal1531 absolutely right you still have Roberts and thats my cheese cake he won't get lucky again trust me yes you will win your division and thats cool enjoy your seasson

[@Dbo_Sports]

The Yankees spent real money. That Giambi money was real.. that Teixeira/Sabathia/Burnett money was real… in no way did any player defer 30% of his contract, let alone the 90% + that Ohtani did… that was a disgrace to the players union. No other players union would allow this garbage. And the only way that you understand what I’m saying is when you understand future value as opposed to present value and Inflation vs interest… the contract that Ohtani signed was embarrassing.

[@MarioRuiz-v4x]

@Dbo_Sports very well said captain go YANKEES BABY

[@fbales]

I kinda wanted a salary cap 5 minutes ago, but now thanks to Ken, I (finally) get it, and also for explaining an alternative to a cap. Well done. Thanks guys for another great show.

[@CVBASEBALLCARDCOLLECTOR]

You must follow the cap.sports?

[@blacklabsmatter3632]

If owners cant afford to put up a competitive payroll annually then don’t buy a team. It’s no different from buying a house. if you can’t afford a million dollar house (or you’re sinking over 50% of your annual earnings into the mortgage and tax) then don’t buy it cause you can’t afford it

[@mikelucas4247]

Even the small teams in the MLB have billionaire owners. They are just busy pocketing the luxury tax payout for themselves

[@sh0t0kan]

They can afford it. Many just look at how to generate profits differently. The majority cut corners and gouge their fan bases and skim on player contracts. While an group a investment bankers run the Dodgers organization like an actual business and see the value in spending because there is huge upside in winning.

[@KayD14]

Dodgers fan here. You’re never getting a salary cap approved by MLBPA. Negotiate a deferral cap per year, set a salary floor. It will address teams being able to sign any player to their hearts content, and force cheap owners to do more for their fanbases.

[@corybabcock4263]

Exactly. the deferred money. That is what needs to be addressed. the Dodgers have drastically abused it this off season, grant it theirs no rules saying any team can't do it but their needs to be a cap on the deferral process

[@PGO_Gaming]

You cannot have a floor without a cap. All the floor does is pay mid and low-tier players more so that teams reach the floor. It does not address the top teams taking all of the players. You have to have a cap to LIMIT TEAMS LIKE THE DODGERS FROM BUYING ALL OF THE PLAYERS.

[@KayD14]

@@PGO_Gaming while I agree (to an extent), players will never agree because they want all the money they can get. MLBPA will never agree to it unless the lack of parity outweighs players’ desire for max $

[@corybabcock4263]

@@PGO_Gaming Theirs already punishments for teams that spend a lot of money, it's called spending tiers losing cash and draft picks. the only reason the Dodgers are getting all these guys is because they defer a shit load of money from these contracts for 10,20,30 years down the road after the contract ends instead of all the players AAV being spent that year

[@brice7894]

I don't have a team but if I were a dodger fan it would still ruin the game for me. You must have little decency or ethics, but that's par for the course with dodger fans. Worst pieces of shit on Earth

[@JamesDuckettAuthor]

It's not just about the money, but the culture.

[@K-Ruler94]

Yes, there a bug culture problem with owner just not caring to build a winner for there fans, and when fans of those teams see what the dodgers are doing, they want to get mad at us instead of there owner not willing to spending a little more then the small amount they already put in the books.

[@brice7894]

@@JamesDuckettAuthor the culture? Dude you'd be robbed and shot if you hung out at dodger stadium

[@iamgodiamgod638]

@@K-Ruler94I think James was talking about the culture in the Dodger clubhouse. For example the Dodgers could have payed Soto but I think everyone who watches baseball that he along with Tatis and Machado are the cancer of team baseball. They care only about themselves and are extremely nonprofessional on the field.

[@KillerBx23]

The MLB never expected they'd ever get a player the level of Shohei Ohtani who will at the same time defer 90% of his money for 10 years with no interest on his own suggestion and then be such a shining beacon that it invites other players of varying high caliber to come do the same.

[@allelujah1210]

We will probably never another one like him in our lifetime again

[@drewcorry5056]

Owners say why bother as long as fans pack the ballpark

[@Dr_Evil_Genius]

When the illusion of competition is removed, non-Dodgers fans will not visit the ballpark the same as before.

[@johncrabtree8857]

Unless ur a stupid cowboys fan who continue showing up and buying their shit while the owner just sits back and laughs all the way to the bank

[@allelujah1210]

Dodger fans had the best road attendance again , Japanese money will also follow them to put advertising in their ballpark 😂

[@Dr_Evil_Genius]

@ Yes. The Dodgers will do fine. The rest of the league won’t (for the most part). The Dodgers can only play one team per day. More than 1/2 of their games are played in their home state.

if you are a fan of baseball and you hate the dodgers for signing all these players, give me a freaking break. go blame your gm for doing NOTHING.

[@hopespringseternal2624]

Ok, boomer

[@mattamatic1]

@@hopespringseternal2624???

[@ViN1988-m6w]

SALARY MINIMUM! I BOUGHT A 5 DOLLAR STARBUCKS THIS MORNING... I SPENT 5 DOLLAR MORE THEN HALF THE TEAMS DID ALL YEAR 😅😅😅

[@AlanYeezy]

Everybody that’s upset needs to blame the Astros, MLB and other fan bases. MLB didn't want to do anything about the Astros cheating, so Friedman has to make this team cheat proof. Other fan bases want to discredit the 2020 WS even though every team played the season without protest, other fan bases kept saying the Dodgers choke every year. Well here is your answer. Keep talking. I wouldn't be surprised to see Skenes, Elly, etc in a Dodger uniform in the future. Shouldn't have been talking shit. Games still have to be played and there are no guarantees in baseball, but from the looks of it, everybody is going to get hit in the mouth. I respect it. All fun and games until shit gets real. He's taking what's owed to them..... with interest

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

Manfred actually went out of his way to grant immunity to the people responsible for the cheating, and now the only guy who really did anything about it (Hinch) got fired, while Alex Cora and Carlos Beltran both got cushy jobs as management or front office. You'll get punished way more for making fun of the cheaters, just ask Joe Kelly.

[@Deadcellz501]

100% on everything you said. It's funny....ALL fan bases were cheering their team on, hoping & praying their team won the 2020 WS. As soon as your team loses, you discredit the title? That is hilarious. Be a real baseball fan and give credit where credit is due.

[@mtrmtr6821]

@@Deadcellz501nah it should be discredited.

[@johncrabtree8857]

I'm just pissed that my favorite team the rangers still haven't gone out and gotten a legitimate closer to fill out the roster to be as competitive as possible

[@GHKim-bo9mf]

The Dodgers are building a DYNASTY 🎉 No doubt about it 😅

[@thomasjones7918]

Not building, BUYING

[@mikelucas4247]

​@@thomasjones7918 players are taking paycuts to join the Dodgers

[@theyounghawk]

Is'nt that the point of winning? Every team buys players but the dodgers do it better and now it's buying lol. Yea cry me river 😂👊🏼​@@thomasjones7918

[@ajalvarez3111]

@@thomasjones7918 Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!! 😭😭😭

[@Rjz217]

Be sure to cash your check from the players association

[@kevingallagher8973]

Give up? Ruth and Gehrig played together for 12 years and were World Champions 4 times. 8 times, they got beat! Team owners, why not give it a shot?

[@sebastianshaw4031]

Baltimore Orioles fans can't be happy as a Yankees fan I love what the Dodgers are doing don't hate keep up 🙂

[@brice7894]

You can't keep up when all the best fruit is already picked ya numbskull

[@TheMicahwitz]

The Dodgers villain arc began in 2017, when they were robbed of a WS and MLB let the guilty basically slide. Friedman accepted the loss but never forgot it. He swore that he’d spend the next ten years creating the most reprehensible juggernaut MLB has ever seen. And now look at us in 2025. I fear that Friedman’s villain arc is complete. And the Dodgers are looking like John Wick after he wakes up to his murdered dog. 😂😂😂

[@skfanfanfan]

Why not institute a "cheapskate tax" to mirror the "luxury tax" to force teams to spend??? Spending less than 80 mil will get you a penalty of 10% tax, less than 70 mil 15% and then 65 mil 25%......... so on and so forth???????????????????👎👎👎👎

[@raycmuck]

That one voter wanted this…. To be the anonymous center of attention

[@jykim3604]

Or he was being a contrarian as usual then realized too late that he was the only one this time.

[@DavidGonzalez-gt1qq]

clickbait headlines are bad for baseball, The Dodgers are SAVING major league baseball

[@johnnyboyjohns2930]

Yep, and the hometown stadiums will sellout because fans will show up to watch this Dodgers team play. They are must see live. Last year it was the same. Love or hate them, fans will flock to watch. I will.

[@ronmexico7256]

Let’s be real they’re showing up for Ohtani They weren’t drawing those away crowds before he got there

[@johnnyboyjohns2930]

@@ronmexico7256 Yes, but the whole team was better than your team. Ohtani is the headliner but he didn’t do it by himself. Now, this 2025 team, on paper is better than last year’s team.

[@ronmexico7256]

@@johnnyboyjohns2930 My team is the Dodgers 🤦‍♀️ Stop making us look bad with this crybaby nonsense, it’s just sad.

[@ajalvarez3111]

@@ronmexico7256 I just took a sec to look at MLB road attendance figures. 4 of the last 5 years (not counting Covid of course) the Dodgers were number one in road attendance. The one year they weren’t first, they only missed out by 300-500 attendees (average). Not sure your point about Ohtani stands at all.

[@brianyakata1978]

If you sign better players more people will come out to the ball park. You have to spend money to make money. And no owners are going to open their books.

[@ltsgoyanks]

No question... there will be a work stoppage... enjoy this while we can.

[@kamb26]

Ken and the team bring up some GREAT points that need to be addressed by MLB and MLBPA. If teams are just trying to break even what other revenue streams do they have besides TV revenue and Revenue sharing. I know the giants and cubs have real estate developments near the ball park that they make money off of. The cubs and giants sign some players and continue to raise prices of parking and other amenities. The owners have created the facade that they are cash poor. Some teams clearly are but they are competing. Others like the Pirates A’s Cubs and Giants are not. That should be addressed

[@liberatovillavicencio7159]

AJ is right about Central Florida’s dynamics of the potential of the attendance for a thought for relocation of the Rays.

[@Gmark25]

AJ the type of dude to share the secret about your crush when you told him not to tell anyone.

[@lawrencemora2826]

No one is going to Orlando to watch their own team against the Rays! They go to LA, SF, NY, Chicago, and Boston...

[@Noseyy]

Salary floor, international draft, deferral restrictions. All need to come first.

[@artm0011]

And remove the revenue sharing why should the dodgers pay other teams their payroll

[@Noseyy]

@@artm0011 Disagree. Because if they want to be in a league where there are smaller markets that’s the price they have to pay.

[@artm0011]

@Noseyy so the rich pay while thr poor do nothing sounds a lil communist

[@Empireoflies1984]

What’s bad for baseball are cheap owners that don’t want to spend money to make more money when they sell the team.

[@steventogami898]

The press conference with Roki Sasaki, he said the front office was the main reason he signed with the Dodgers. Granted, having a deep pocket owner definitely helps. Some cities will always be at a disadvantage. Think crime, weather, stadium condition, locker room, clubhouse personalities, etc. Dodgers scouted Roki from high school. I am sure they kept in touch over the years. Dodgers almost lost to SD. Won WS with a slumping Ohtani. Other players stepped up.

[@AtomicPunk51]

I don't think salary cap is what people are moaning about now. I think they've gone completely nuts and want a cap on how many free agents dodgers are allowed to sign. Is what it seems to have morphed into.

[@DerangedHobbit]

Baseball isn't the "haves vs have nots" its the "spender vs the spend not"

[@mirikaku5811]

Baseball franchises are NOT obligated to disclose their profits. No doubt that they are making a lot of money!! Very seldom do you have MLB franchise owners selling their team, because it is such a lucrative business!! LAA owner, Moreno made so much money, he decided to not sell, even without Ohtani money (which made him greedy, since he had Ohtani for minor league contract and made gargantuan amount from him) Even LAD latest estimate by Forbes of making 70M extra this season with Japanese Advertisers, the Forbes Japan estimated this amount higher around 100M. (This doesn’t include ticket, food, merch sales domestic/international, tourism revenues and NHK broadcasting royalties..etc😂

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

That one voter: "... I just forgot to cast my vote for Ichiro..."

[@cesargonzales7234]

There should floor cap salary, meaning the team needs to spend a minimum amount. This could help. Also. Remove the deferred.

[@LaNeta-juey]

It was ok for MLB to let the Astro cheat in 2017 World series. They should have taken the world series trophie away.

[@krizm]

this time seems different tho because japans world classic champions are bringing all their really good friends to come over with deferrals

[@naturallawman2965]

I'm fine with a cap... as long as there's a $150M floor.

[@Kenneth-nVA]

Around $120-125 would work best! Presently 10 teams are under the $120 threshold… that’s a 1/3 of the league but it would force teams to fairly compete rather than just making a buck. As a lifelong Pirates fan ( since 1973) I know that the Pirates could win the WS if this was implemented. Presently they are at $79 and would have to spend another $41 which is 2-3 solid players. We need a floor with serious penalties if missed

[@ezechialtaylor2331]

I would never want my team to operate the way they dodgers do. I want my team to have integrity, to earn championships. Not buy them.

[@ryancirrone3343]

People are trippin now because the Dodgers finally got over the October hump 2 times in this decade

[@atlrts]

No need for salary cap. Put an END to deferred payments force teams to spend within the life of the contract. If the Dodgers want to have a billion-dollar plus annual payroll let them spend.

[@henryhughes2923]

MLB regarding potential work stoppage. "You don't want to kill the goose that lays the gold egg"

[@danielgreene6480]

Many of the signees including Ohtani last year made a choice to go to LA. He asked the Angels to match it and they said no. Some took less to go to LA. Why don't the smaller market copy the Braves, pay the young talent before they become free agents, invest more in the minors, and make moves to create a winning culture.

[@AlanYeezy]

All a salary cap does is allow for owners to pocket money. There is an international cap for Roki and he went to the Dodgers because he's only 6.5 million. Remove that cap and he probably get 300+ million which probably prices the Dodgers out. A salary floor increases competition for free agents driving the price up on the Dodgers. How about all teams ELIGIBLE for receiving revenue sharing dollars must have a .500 record to collect any money. That would make those bottom spending teams invest first, just like any other business in the United States. How often will you see "bullpen games" or "position players pitching" if losing a game in April may cost the owner 100 million. This is America we shouldn't be encouraging handouts, earn it.

[@danpratscher4375]

Introduce relegation to AAA to force teams to try with severe financial penalty attached.

[@ashugart]

Owners will never approve a floor, players will never approve a cap...

[@dagobert1234321]

Salary cap comes with a salary floor

[@VegasLoungeAct]

There are a whole host of players that should've been unanimous into the HOF and weren't. Greg Maddux, anyone?

[@BlackSabbath10019]

Besides a salary cap & floor, MLB also needs an international draft. All the best Japanese players choosing the west coast teams because of proximity to Japan is just ridiculous.

[@Dbo_Sports]

Tokyo Dodgers… yeah that’s great for baseball. MLB doesn’t understand until there’s a lockout. Sasaki to the Dodgers was an embarrassment.

[@ScottyBraun-FoulTerritory]

Make the votes public PLEASE

[@Paul_92833]

If the Dodgers had sign Snell, Scott, Yates, and Teoscar in the first week of free agency by outbidding every other team, then the financial might of the Dodgers could be seen as being unfair. However, more than 2/3 of the teams have pretty much declared flat out that they can't "afford" these players. So, do you want players who have worked their butts off for years to reach a point where they can demand a lucrative contract or do you want to punish owners who purchase a baseball club and don't want to invest in the product? I'm sure many of these cheap owners are ecstatic that the hate that should be directed toward them are being diverted to the Dodgers at the moment. Many players are willing to come and play for the Dodger at a lower salary and much higher state tax. Why is that?

[@lespaul1968]

other sports have caps to prevent players from all picking the same team because of all the reasons you just named.

[@liberatovillavicencio7159]

Ichiro could care less of that one individual that didn’t.

[@davidkrasne9252]

Question no one is asking is how many World Series do the Dodgers have to win to justify current roster. 3 out of next 9? More? Other teams are going to beat the Dodgers and/or win the series in some or most of the next 9 years. And whoever knocks out the dodgers in those years will probably get rings for doing so. The league loves this and you all know this.

[@vladimirRMB]

There is multiple problems, owners are cheap and need to compete more, and the revenue sharing needs to happen, 350 million tv deal while other teams lose their mightt 50 millipn tv deals, both are problems. Stop attacking fans, who make this sport actually succesful.

[@mouseii88]

If there is a Salary cap and you will have 5 teams at the cap and everyone else is still just not trying anyway.

[@benjames4502]

The Rich are getting richer, so we don't have to change. The LaD have been going to the playoffs since 2012, so it is the same top ten markets competing at the end of the year. Fan interest and youth involvement is down from 30 years, baseball used to be America's sport, make baseball great again.

[@ArtofFreeSpeech]

Not Willie Mays, not Henry Aaron, not Tom Seaver, or tons of other guys got 100% of the vote, and I never heard squat about the guys that didn't vote them in at 100%. Ichiro is NOT in the class of any of those guys, and in the end, he's a 60 WAR player. Keith Hernandez had more WAR than that and still isn't in, and we're really complaining about Ichiro not getting one vote? Give me a break!

[@mike-vq8zw]

I believe there will be a work stoppage to help try and prevent the owners from committing suicide.

[@ThisFoo777]

It’s true man if players got paid they’d go.. Soto is an example

[@williamarcamo7588]

Each team has the obligation to make their team better and appealing. Spending! Of course you have to spend in regards with your needs. The Dodgers are investing is a sin?

[@dsinsocal]

Honestly, if I'm an owner of a team pumping millions of dollars into the revenue sharing stream, I'd prefer if the cheap owners pocket the money. It's a sunk cost. I've already spent the money, so there's no changing that. It serves me and my interests more if that money isn't used to bid *against me* in the next free agent negotiations. As long as OAK, PIT, CLE, FLA, etc all put that money under their mattress, it means they aren't using my own money to make my goal of winning that much harder.

[@davetimmons2757]

I would have no problem with what the Dodgers are doing if they didn't have half thier roster on differed payments and were paying the proper luxury tax each year.

[@Bern1808]

I think we're headed to a very bad situation 2026 (lock-out/strike). Owner shennanigans aside, the majority of teams cannot realistically compete. The problem is real. Brace yourself.

[@Dr_Evil_Genius]

The owners letting the Dodgers sign all available All-Stars is what I call a “Soft Lockout”. The real one is on the horizon when the players balk at a salary cap.

[@AlanYeezy]

Just like any other business in America, if you can't compete it's time to sell. Capitalism works.

[@richardlemmer877]

Do all thee tourists visit Orlando during baseball season when it's 110º?

[@isai841]

A Salary cap will never happen because then there will be a floor. That Limits the Dodgers spending and the Dodgers luxury tax money that gets spread around to the other teams goes down significantly and these other teams who don't spend and want to spend payrolls go up a ton and way less money comes in than before

[@NinJa-qr1sp]

Spend what you earn should be the rule.

[@jaro4742]

Keep the Luxury Tax No deferrals. Retroactively tax the current deferrals. Salary floor.

[@kittycatsheavenog]

The vitriol comes from the ush out for ohtani .....and also TODAY present time , the dodgers have gotten like 10 players in this off season alone !!!!

[@benjames4502]

In Football a quarterback is able to change the outcome of the games on bad teams. Fran Tarkenton. In baseball one man can't change the outcome and win a world series even he's one of the best that ever played, Barry Bonds. Ken Rosenthal, false equivalency, do better.

[@tacobellcall911]

Ken works for the MLB he's not going to say anything truly bad about the sport

[@TheSmarq17]

Through all of this manufactured outrage against the Dodgers one simple fact remains: the Mets have spent nearly 3x more this offseason. But, but, but...evil empire. 😂

[@Dbo_Sports]

If that number is true, then it’s because the Mets have spent real money. A deferral is a discount in future value… that’s all it is… that means that 6 guys have taken less money in one offseason for the Dodgers. That’s not good for baseball.

[@TheSmarq17]

@@Dbo_Sports Try again. Spotrac only keeps total value of the contract signed when it counts up all the damage each offseason. The Dodgers spent more than $1B last offseason. The Mets are up over $900M, while the Dodgers have spent over $300M this offseason.

[@Dbo_Sports]

@@TheSmarq17 Your playing semantics like a female. The Mets just signed a player of 750+ million dollars of REAL MONEY… alongside of their other signings. The Dodgers made that same signing last year of FAKE MONEY, alongside of their other signings. The difference is that in two years of spending for both teams, the Mets did not have a player defer 98% of his deal. Which as I said is a discount in future value. Only the Dodgers deal in fake money at a large scale. The Mets deal in real money… every bit of Soto’s deal is present value. Forget spotrac and it’s nonsense. A deferral is a discount in future value… meaning one who takes it, is taking a discount… which means MOST of the Dodgers took less money to play there. Bobby Bonilla’s deal is worth less today then it was when he signed it.. same for Ohtani and Betts and Whomever else took deferrals. Because of inflation!

[@alkaline3254]

Guardians have one of the top 10 cheap owners. Only signs left overs

[@ltsgoyanks]

"Disparity between the haves and have nots..." yet, MLB wants to expand to two cities... ridiculous

[@larryleadman7044]

But the Dodgers are a group of huge owners.

[@cowboysnation3472]

We can scratch the 2027’ season now. The deferred payments are a joke and we will see the ratings drop just like the NBA’s has over the last twenty years. It should always be a draft process rather it’s international or domestic.

[@lespaul1968]

you just want Yankees dodgers in world series every year

[@72garibay]

Yankees in the 90s did the same thing .. go Dodgers.. To be honest look at what the cubs owner said .. makes me think that lots of teams are doing the same thing.. so don’t hate on the dodgers hate on the other teams for not doing enough for there own team

[@Dbo_Sports]

You’re nuts! … what big name free agent did the Yankees pick up in the 90’s? Charlie Hayes? Scott Brosius? Jimmy Key?… that team was homegrown and filled with older players who were unwanted.. Daryl Strawberry and Doc Gooden and Shane Spencer and Chad Curtis and David Cone? Which one of those guys signed for big money? They won 4 World Series with their farm system and shrewd moves… they didn’t have Japan as their farm system.

[@yemanator]

Look I don’t blame the Dodgers for doing it because it’s legal, but having permanent franchises basically serve as poverty franchises that develop players for the have’s isn’t ideal. I mean, I’m a Mets fan, so we have decent money to spend, but I really like the Pirates as well and there’s no way for them to compete

[@johnfernandez2060]

Cry harder non dodger fans!!! Please! This is the dodgers era!!! Go blue!

[@jimm.2118]

I wantva mandatory floor. If it's a cap, then they can get away with a 80 million dollar payroll and say" We are under the cap, what's the problem?". I want a 55-60% of revenue put in payroll. Penalty is loss of first 2 draft picks and cut revenue. Only way to make owners spend

[@swizzlekix]

😂🤡

[@BlackSabbath10019]

MLB is the only pro sport league in the country that doesn’t have a Salary cap. There needs to be a salry cap and a floor. Otherwise interest in MLB will decrease to a point of no return. Do it now before its too late.

[@mirikaku5811]

It’s up to the players to accept deferrals! Seems the players are willing to and the owners are re-investing that money to benefit the team and fans!!! Dodgers still pay way lot of luxury penalty taxes to those teams who complain, sitting on their asses demanding Dodgers give them more but don’t seem to have any obligation to spend that money on their teams nor players. Instead pocket that money received by likes of Dodgers, Mets and Yankees…

[@thomasjones7918]

Salary cap and floor is needed. I don’t carry if we miss a year

[@erickayson588]

The Dodgers will only have 1 playoff spot.

[@Logic105]

So owners opening their books are going to give them the chance to get a Ohtani with 2 buddies from Japan. AND a backloaded contract? Yea ok buddy.

[@Dbo_Sports]

Thank You sir… this was worked out well before this winter. The Tokyo Dodgers are cheating the system and they’re being defended because no one wants to offend the Japanese. But the Players Union has no teeth right now.

[@dodgerrichgee]

Dodgers are setting the bar! Crying about is not gonna do it! Get your owners to get in the game! Why would you fault the Dodgers for trying to put the best team out there to win it all! After all isn’t that the end game here!

[@hossin69]

Aside from small market teams, stop acting like everyone can do this. The Padres tried for years and are now stuck with bad contracts borrowing money

[@J_R15]

All these different baseball podcast platforms are ruining baseball

[@onlysublime]

Fans should be cursing their owners for not spending money on their teams. When you look at the revenue That even the lowest team has, it's appalling how greedy those owners are in hoarding money. These are billionaires. They all have local revenue streams and communal national revenue streams such as TV money. They also have the cba tax revenues. The Dodgers are being heavily penalized in taxes and that tax money is going to all the other teams in the league and all those teams are just putting that money into their billionaire owners' pockets. There is no reason why they can't make their teams better. The Dodgers are spending bc they know the window to win is finite. You can't be a cheap team and spend on one player and hope you win. Fans should demand that their team owners make an effort beyond just making buckets of money. I know what some of those fans are feeling. When the Dodgers were sold to the McCourts, Dodgers fans suffered mightily. The McCourts had money, but they weren't really rich. They just used the moneymaking machine that all baseball teams are to fund their lifestyles. They depended on their farm system to produce rookie of the years. They paid for 1 or 2 big contracts. And then just watch money roll in from baseball. In fact, the Dodgers benefitted from the richer teams like the Yankees giving them penalty money. The biggest reason for the change for the Dodgers was when the McCourts had to sell them to owners who were baseball fans too. In fact, the McCourts are still sucking money from the Dodgers because they kept the Dodgers parking. If you want to know why Dodgers parking is so expensive, look at the McCourts! I feel for the Padres because they are going to be the modern day McCourts. The brothers that inherited Peter Seidler's Padres are rich but not super rich and they're going to use the moneymaking machine that is the Padres as their piggybank. People blame the widow. But the brothers have not managed Peter's assets well. They have not run the trust well. They are not running the Padres well.

[@marcv1371]

Ahhh, the McCourts. The scourge of MLB....

[@Logic105]

Tell the Jays, Giants, or Padres to play with more passion. They are trying as hard as they can but what do you expect them to do? So you're telling me the Pirates, Rays, or Guardians are going to try harder after seeing what the Dodgers did? Gtfo

[@Dr_Evil_Genius]

I can see the points being made. However, we’ve never seen 14+ All-Stars on one roster. This isn’t a Dodgers problem. It’s the owners colluding to allow this to happen to force a salary cap (without a salary floor) in the next CBA. To expect a roster of current All-Stars to all forget how to play baseball at the same time is illogical. The Dodgers have chalked the 2025 season in the minds of many fans.

[@BKDBut]

It's player collusion, which is allowed

[@Dr_Evil_Genius]

@@BKDBut I disagree for one reason: Many of the players didn’t sign with the LAyaway Dodgers in the first week of Free Agency. Only Sasaki can be speculated as not having truly considered other teams. Even Teoscar signed later after looking at other teams. With the exception of Sasaki, all the other players could have been signed by other teams. The teams are shoving their hands in their pockets purposely. I call it a “soft lockout”.

[@BKDBut]

@Dr_Evil_Genius I'm not sure what the timing has to do with it though. That's assuming that LA made offers immediately and didn't wait and play their hands also. And LA has every reason to wait a bit and see the market start to unfold before undercutting it a bit because they know the players will still accept Teoscar could have gotten more money, none deferred Yamamoto had 2 better deals in NY and took less money to go to LA Roki was never going anywhere else. All of those meetings were a total farce from the get go. As were all of the lines being fed. I don't believe Ohtani was going anywhere else. Maybe he would have stayed with the Angels had they made the same offer, but I don't believe outside of LA affiliated team

[@Dr_Evil_Genius]

@@BKDBut I’m speaking to this offseason specifically. The Japanese players will go where they want to go. I don’t think that’s collusion. Sasaki could have had friendly Japanese teammates in San Diego and New York. He went where he wanted to go. That’s not the Dodgers’ fault. The two All-Star relievers were signed within the last 4 days. It’s the middle of January for goodness sake. Any of these other teams could have signed Scott and Yates. Hernandez took similar money, with more years. Mets offered him the same AAV for less years. If they really wanted him bad enough, they’d have offered more money, not the same money with less years. Look at how they’re low-balling Pete Alonso. With the exception of the Japanese players, I don’t think the players on their roster signed this year wouldn’t have agreed to terms with other teams if they made better offers.

[@BKDBut]

@Dr_Evil_Genius Well I said players. I'm not blaming the Dodgers for the part about players all just saying, "I'm not going to take the best deal available or take the best opportunity for me and instead go to the Dodgers." And I'm talking about for multiple years Scott wanted 4/80 from teams, took 4/72 from Dodgers, with 21 deferred, so it's 4/even less than 72. Another case of a player taking less from Dodgers while playing hardball with others Mets made a passive pass at Teoscar. But they weren't even a team expected to be in on him. There are other teams that would have offered more, Jays, Sox, maybe O's, but the 27th out was barely recorded and Teoscar was saying, "I'll come back for anything" Yes. The Japanese players will go only to LA as long as LA wants them. And for some reason we don't have an IFA draft and the Dodgers win the WS and then basically get the #1 overall pick also

[@corybabcock4263]

only thing that needs to be fixed is getting rid of the deferred money non sense, that is why the dodgers are doing what they are doing

[@albertwheelerwheels9781]

I do not think my team should not be dodgers in they finial buying a team

[@Deadcellz501]

It's funny....ALL fan bases were cheering their team on, hoping & praying their team won the 2020 WS. As soon as your team loses, you discredit the title? That is hilarious. Be a real baseball fan and give credit where credit is due.

[@jackcooper4936]

Yes this is bad for baseball. More and more people I know are saying “what’s the point” and are becoming less and less interested

[@matthewlzimmerman]

Dodgers have "one World Series"!? Come on!! You slipped the "full season" caveat in there eventually but, come on. It's TWO WS rings in the last 5 years. Don't give me this it wasn't legit bias

[@BlackSabbath10019]

Actually maybe its just me but I’d hate to be a Dodgers fan. You’re literally just buying off a championship. If you win it, you’ll do nothing great but if you lose, its a major embarrassment.

[@tawkoeh]

God I wish revenue sharing wasn’t a thing. A lot of owners are prob super happy dodgers are raking in money. Discrepancy between the owners and fans of those teams is not something any other sport has. Makes online discourse about baseball a clown show.

[@MarioRuiz-v4x]

Exactly mr Rosenthal and dodgers still have Roberts he won't be lucky again trust me on that one yankees baby

[@aqustks]

Stop crying about it! The Dodgers aren't doing anything illegal.

[@louismestas4355]

Baseball is a business!! they're all playing by the rules!! And if it's a business, you invest in your business and put the best product out there for your consumer the fans!! This is the beauty of capitalism if you don't like it, Get pissed at your owners!! And take a playbook from the Dodgers front office... while others are playing checkers. The Dodgers are playing chess!!

[@hserfgroove]

Try being an Ms fan

[@upandin]

evil empires are fun. everyone has a rooting interest