Episode 13.2 Mixing Underoath's "On My Teeth"

[@justinaswellmusic]

Putting Ken inside the automation at 10:45, too good. These video edits are so on point man.

[@KenAndrewsMusic]

I like to have fun with it. I mean its a guy talking about frequencies, gotta do something to lighten it up!

[@stephenconley2275]

The BEST video editing in any of the “mix tutorials” on KZbin. Also, obviously, some of the best tips, tricks and tutorials. More, and more frequently PLEASE!!!

[@KenAndrewsMusic]

Thank you so much for this comment! As soon as I get to certain point I’m going to hire someone to help me with the videos so I can make them more frequently. Right now it’s just me and it’s takes time to edit them.

[@DannyCaught]

Hi Ken!! A big fan of yours from Italy (Failure, Replicants, Lusk!!, Year Of The Rabbit, Ken Andrews & Digital Noise Academy) : ) THANK YOU for letting me know about such a MASTERPIECE like Underoath - Erase Me with wich I'm now TOTALLY IN LOVE !!!! Keep up the great things you do and congrats again for one of the greatest comeback in music history like you (and Greg & Kelly) did with FAILURE - THE HEART IS A MONSTER which is absolutely KILLER !!

[@DenisAshton]

Very informative! Great tip about mixing the loudest section first. Thanks!

[@kevindietz6470]

Awesome mix breakdown, killer song! I love the part where you’re describing the panning of the intro synth and you appear IN the waveform 😂👍🏻

[@Everythingdiesoneday]

I’m so out of my depth when it comes to anything regarding music production but man these vids are cool. What an insanely talented person

[@Errcyco]

We’re hella lucky, Ken could have just been an engineer and hid out.. no Failure, no videos. Dude had shared his gift and these videos are so awesome. And he does the most important thing, learns what the band is after first and he gets them there with his gifted mind. Awesome video dude! We all think the world of you keep em coming :)

[@KenAndrewsMusic]

Thank you so much for this comment. Inspiring!

[@Errcyco]

@@KenAndrewsMusic Glad I could return the favor.

[@pagnol3226]

My goodness I just discovered your channel Ken! As a "home" and previous struggling musician-prodcuer-engineer (but what a blast! LA in the 90s!) this is very exciting to find all these videos of yours! ty!

[@moglitheiceburgYT]

this is so valuable. Thank you.

[@theheatstudio]

Very cool, thanks for sharing Ken! Love to see other mixing engineer's workflows and concepts. Your video editing is superb too!

[@KenAndrewsMusic]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@LightsandMotion]

been looking forward to this one. I actually bought my first slate plugins after your latest video, and the tape / console emulations are on everything now. thanks for the great stuff Ken!

[@KenAndrewsMusic]

Glad I could help!

[@JonMartins]

The one guy who used to hate you for nothing at school, just disliked your video. Amazing video. You're killing it!

[@tatmo1072]

Thanks for sharing this! Love Underoath and your great work with such big and incredible bands!

[@LeonTodd]

Man those quad tracked rhythm guitars sound immense! "it's slightly intoxicating.." - love it.

[@billyjackoff]

Love that you're back with the videos. A dive into the Comfort tapes would be dope.

[@goodobaggins]

Nice I’ve been dying to watch this since the last on my teeth video was posted!

[@brandonpratt9353]

Been waiting Eagerly for this and it did not disappoint! Loved it! Thank you Ken! 🙌🏻😊👊🏻

[@KenAndrewsMusic]

My pleasure!!

[@stevenyarbrough4638]

Talk about getting it right at the source… wow! Great video. I usually feel more like a plastic surgeon rather than a sculpting artist when it comes to the tracks I get sent lol

[@f.c.urbaytis3599]

Well I'm buying this record. Never heard them. This sounds great.

[@us3r11]

Watch their documentary on the record 'Erase Me'. It got me.

[@ElegiesAus]

Among Underoath fans, this record is surprisingly not as well loved. I liked it, but if you take a journey back through their discography, you’ll find some really really cool stuff too.

[@justinsayswtf]

@@ElegiesAus I’m a fan of Underoath and I liked it a lot. Some people want a band to sound one way from the start of their career to the end. I believe a band should go wherever their creativity takes them.

[@drmmr561]

From a longtime UO fan. This is a good song. If you're just getting started with Underoath "Lost in the Sound of Separation" is an awesome starting ground.

[@reverb508]

@@drmmr561 Agreed. Such a great record. Define the Great Line is up there too imo

[@TheLeon1032]

this video is so helpful n entertaining at the same time, never seen this chanel before, im subscribing, absolutely sick

[@KenAndrewsMusic]

Welcome aboard!

[@relaxingsounds1386]

Most relaxed, clearly explained mix walkthrough ever.

[@chronicmango]

This is rad. Also makes me appreciate this track a little more.

[@craigtoghill1624]

These videos are excellent! Would love to see an episode on how you handle gain staging, I see in some videos you use a VU meter would love some insight into this!

[@francomatiasmarron1274]

Underoath is such an amazing heavy band. This video has all the knowledge bombs.

[@djstephanysays9708]

I have no idea what is going on, but it's fascinating. Thanks Ken!

[@DESOLATENY]

10:41 Ken has finally become one with the automation

[@giantbiclighter]

Ken I just stopped by to say Solar Eyes is the best song you've ever produced. Me and my wife have listened to it on a long drive like 5 times in a row. You were really on one.

[@KenAndrewsMusic]

Hey thank you for that. One of my favs as well. One note bass lines forever!

[@dnaglitchgaming6565]

Love that musical cave.

[@ThalesStipp]

YEAAA BOI! Thanks for the Knowledge, Ken!

[@BenOlsberg1995]

Hearing Ken go into the specifics of the keys is just so damn cool to me. Maybe I've been looking in the wrong places but I haven't found a lot of in depth talk about how the keyboards have been mixed into a full on rock/metal track, and hearing Ken Andrews of all people dive into the topic is such an ideal combination. On a side note, maybe it's just me but I feel like the On My Teeth instrumental transitions seamlessly into the Distorted Fields outro.

[@KenAndrewsMusic]

Thanks for this. Glad you got something out of the keyboard sections. And yes, distorted fields has same notes in it so I took advantage!

[@markdukakis1003]

What kind of camera do you use, Ken?

[@fastpeak]

LOVE your work Ken! would be so aweseom IF you could do a "mix inside" of the Paramore album you've done!

[@richardglobisch64]

The sound design/ keyboard stuff is impressive!

[@bvlvncemusic]

If anyones curious about the stutter at 12:45 im 90% sure that its an Izotope Stutter edit preset

[@riktascale4]

Your editing is A1

[@billyhughes9776]

Incredibly complex mix, incredible stuff man. Love it. One thing I'm noticing is how all of the tracks you have for the guitars and keyboards are all so "brickwalled" off level wise. At least they look that way on the meters.

[@KenAndrewsMusic]

Yes, that’s normal for guitars with a lot of distortion. Heavy distortion will flatline your waveform faster than heavy compression. Keyboards are also fairly distorted and mangled on this song, so yes, not a whole lot of dynamics in the individual tracks for this song, but that’s the vibe here. Everyone on 11 for the whole thing!

[@nachshonrorick]

Great presentation and super informative! I would pay top dollar for a masterclass of this for Failure’s (or any of your projects) future sessions. Thanks!

[@KenAndrewsMusic]

www.patreon.com/kenandrews

[@TristanLangdon]

Love your work Ken! I only recently discovered you and Failure a few years back and I've been hooked ever since! I absolutely love watching these videos and will continue to do so, but I was wondering if you, or any of your followers could please point me in the direction of somebody as nearly as cool as you, that does almost the exact style of videos as yours, but using Logic Pro X instead? Because I have allot to learn and very little money and I only have Logic. Thanks in advanced please keep doing what you're doing! I'm learning allot! Cheers.

[@ProdByClockwerk]

At 11:06 you are exactly right. Chris uses Logic.

[@alfredolecuona7284]

Gracias Ken!!!

[@settingfiretogiants]

Your drum sound is quickly becoming my favourite drum sound. I would LOVE if you did a DEEP dive into your drums. pleeeeeeeeeease, and thank you

[@SITST6]

Noticed the IK comp replaced the Waves SSL on the master bus compared to previous mix videos.

[@KenAndrewsMusic]

Yes, I usually try a couple and see if anything hits me. Currently I'm using the SSL Native Buss Comp because I got one of the SSL UC-1 controllers. But I do pretty much always have an SSL style buss comp on the st buss.

[@SITST6]

@@KenAndrewsMusic I demod the Native and regret not picking it up when it was on sale.. will definitely be getting it the next opportunity. And thanks for the content!

[@tara2262]

legend, actually ^ ^

[@snapascrew]

Yeeeeehawwwww

[@phpimusique9373]

very cool!

[@JimmyMarrow]

Ken!

[@Tunemoonful]

Can you maybe put up list on your website of must have plug ins?

[@KenAndrewsMusic]

I would rather show you how I use them and why I like them rather than put up a shopping list. If you watch all the videos I think I’ve discussed around twenty of my favorites already and how I use them.

[@moonflower1759]

🖤

[@nickemacio9794]

So you’d give the “thumbs up” on quad tracking the rhythm guitars? I know some producers/mixers hate it, but I’ve always thought it sounded great. When planning the 4, are you planning two of them slightly more inward than the other two that are hard panned, or just all 4 hard panned?

[@KenAndrewsMusic]

On this song I’m pretty sure all 4 were hard panned but that’s not a rule I use. I will audition different pannings and see what feels good. Often it’s more about how it’s affecting the other instruments.

[@nickemacio9794]

@@KenAndrewsMusic thank you for the reply, sir. I would also like to inquire on this as well- are you doing any kind of “widening” with the guitars as far as using a stereo imager, or it is just hard panned left and right and then maybe a little “room” and EQ on a bus? I’d really be interested to know about this albums guitars and the JEW song “pass the baby” toward the end. Thanks for doing these!

[@us3r11]

So valuable. The mix is so good. But, man, when there's only one person making music - I can never get so much complexity in one song just by myself... Well.. I hope to get someone involved, I guess.

[@nedim_guitar]

Find people online to work with. People who are into similar music. Pass ideas forward and back, and work out parts together. I happened to get in touch with a guy by chance, and his recordings really made my at the time mediocre song into a really good one! He came up with the chorus, bridge and outro, he put in guitars and synths that sound great and fit the song very well. It's worth a shot. I mean, I don't know if I could do that for you, or anyone, but I do know that when I'm listening to music, especially for the first time, I have a feeling and a sense of where it could, or even should go.

[@PentUpPentatonics]

What DAW is this, Pro Tools?

[@magiccowbell9023]

Yes

[@PentUpPentatonics]

@@magiccowbell9023 Thanks

[@ransbarger]

yeehaa! Thank you.

[@pauloheiniken]

I try this, but i failure...

[@kingdman9126]

where's part 3 :(

[@KenAndrewsMusic]

Part 3 is up on my Patreon now if you’d like to join. Www.Patreon.com/kenandrews. It will be on my KZbin channel in a few days.

[@NK-nk3xe]

Meanwhile, Joe Blow tonewood is like, "man that guitar player must be have a mahogany body and maple fretboard, his tone is SO BRIGHT and heavy!"

[@DennisAlvey]

I would love to hear this song with just vocals, bass, drums and guitar. But I appreciate all the work that went into the added sounds. Stupid question: Doesn't it get to a point where you can't fit everything in? I feel like all those sounds get buried in the mix just to let the actual song breathe. No?

[@DennisAlvey]

@@jackie-boy-floyd Good point. I see that.

[@KenAndrewsMusic]

Yes, sometimes not every sound can be independently appreciated, for sure. Rather they play a more supportive role. All the synths hitting the same power chord guitars is a good example of how keys can support and make the guitars appear more intense with actually noticing them on their own.

[@snapascrew]

10:46 nice visual edit hahaha

[@boddumblues]

How are they gonna pull this off live??

[@ElegiesAus]

They do easily

[@boddumblues]

@@ElegiesAus wow!

[@danielmcnamara_]

I think the Moo Cow might be talking about the Cow Effect in the Op-1 - sounds like it

[@Zackhames]

This is really cool of you to share tons of brilliant info, but the ken burns zoom effect on every shot is incredibly distracting for in-depth videos, trying to check out what you're doing in Pro Tools and focus on the info you're actually sharing.

[@KenAndrewsMusic]

agreed for the shots of me. i turned on auto zooming and I don't like it for those shots. won't do that again. but for the PT shots I actually think its really helpful to give context and I think the zooming is helpful there. There might be a few where the zoom is too much or too fast, but overall I think it actually helps to focus the viewer on what I'm talking about. probably went a little overboard on this episode though. thanks for the critique.

[@thebadlung]

@@KenAndrewsMusic Sorry to be that guy too but i came to write this too Ken. If someone is watching your video, it's likely we are well used to looking at a non moving DAW screen. Maybe a little app that highlights where your mouse is would do the trick of drawing attention. but regardless your info and sounds are invaluable though, thanks for these videos

[@Zackhames]

Thanks for responding, obviously you don’t have to give us these videos and I’m just thrilled they exist! Thanks for being awesome!

[@maxjjk]

@@KenAndrewsMusic I agree, please tone it back. It feels a little bit like I'm watching a Nail the Mix clip while drunk. It is cool to not just have a static screenshot all the time, but the constant motion is a little much.