Kendo Nagasaki v Giant Haystacks

[@mrman9561]

These were special times when I was growing up world of sport use to show these matches brings back the memories with my grandparents when we use to watch together thank you

[@turnerthemanc]

with Dicky Davis....lol, saw them all at Manchester Bellevue Kings Hall when the speedway was rained off.. Of course, that was often

[@taelee73]

Same here, used to watch this with my gran, Saturdays I think.

[@paulmcnama5659]

I met giant haystacks in the Barclay carvery Shaw's bridge Belfast Northern Ireland in the eighties he's a total gentleman

[@markbeale7390]

But no wrestler.

[@ericgeorge5483]

This was a real treat as I have never seen this before, thanks for a fab upload.

[@leedsboy64]

same here it looked chaotic

[@ericgeorge5483]

@@leedsboy64 That's one word for it lol.

[@AldershotDave]

What a load of bollox!! A manager doesn’t dictate who does/doesn’t referee! Plus, both camps must have known that Pat Roach was going to be the referee.

[@Isleofskye]

" both camps must have known that Pat Roach was going to be the referee."......you are right. Anyway, Auf Wiedersehen,Pet...

[@Bigbencher]

Haystacks was bigger than ANY man I have ever seen. Pat Roach (Raiders) was the toughest...

[@kn3448]

Had the honour of meeting Mr Pat "Bomber" Roach not long before he passed away. A gentleman and a gentle man to boot despite his size. He was easily 6'4" and broad shouldered, truly a big man and not a fat tub of lard like Haystacks. Pat Roach made me feel quite humbled and I'm 6'8" and twenty five stone myself.

[@EnidAgnusDei]

Nice to see the crowd are for Haystacks for once makes a change.

[@joecheesebrough1205]

John Johnstone I'm haystacks all the way

[@stevebrazilio]

Love it. I'm always intrigued about how much is scripted for the cameras and how much is true emotion. Either way, great entertainment, Thanks for sharing.

[@simonlevett4776]

'Great entertainment', you must be kidding.

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

@@simonlevett4776 then go watch something else and stop trolling on here.

[@クリ山ハラ夫]

これはなんと貴重なオリジナルケンドーナガサキの映像！かつて世界の怪奇派覆面レスラーの図鑑でオリジナルケンドーナガサキを見た時、少年の心はときめきました！

[@andrewescalona8447]

GEORGE GILLETT WAS A GOOD DOUBLE ACT WITH KENDO NAGASAKI. LYOID RYAN WAS A PRATT AND HE ACTED LIKE A BIG BABY.

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

Lloyd Ryan was just doing his job as a villain manager. I've chatted to him a couple of times away from the ring and he's actually quite a nice funny bloke. He also managed Karl Kramer & Bob Barrett in Rumble in 1996 and Destiny and a bunch of other people in WAW for the Knight family in 2002. His nephew Damien wrestled as a goody for LDN in the late Noughties.

[@jipsumies3435]

I wonder how many GREAT WHS tapes are there somewhere that haven't been posted..

[@stephenhughes9548]

Sadly no longer with us Giant Haystacks rests in Agecroft cemetery Salford m/c Believe he was a very religious person too

[@OhJaniceWhyOhWhy]

If he's religious, he now knows that there is no God, just worms and bugs eating your remains.

[@doug1570]

Getting to the end of British wrestling. A shadow of what went before. Haystacks just looked really unwell and what would Kendo have done to him anyway. End of an era but interesting to see. What was Pat Roach doing here as we!!. With the judo and wrestling career he had behind him it seemed strange to see him involved in this scenario.

[@JamesMMcCann]

Pat Roach had a Judo career?

[@doug1570]

@@JamesMMcCann Quite an extensive one. It's how he started out. You can read all about it in his autobiography - Pat Roach's Birmingham. It makes an interesting read.

[@JamesMMcCann]

@@doug1570 cool, I'll check it out. He'll always be Bomber to me :)

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

Plenty more good stuff has happened in the years since - great wrestlers like James Mason and Dean Allmark and Tony Spitfire and Oliver Grey and Nino Bryant and Jordan Breaks.

[@simonlevett4776]

It's not really strange because wrestling was totally fake, just like the supposed blood on Martin's forehead. It was a piece of badly acted out drama for the old dear's who were watching. The masked bloke would not have done anything to him.

[@patrickwest3518]

Saw kendo.at worthing pavilion.70s met him back stage.gave me a picture card of him and autograph.my favorite wrestler ever.great days and era.a giant of a man.mind you i was a kid.

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

still a nice bloke and funny bloke now. There's some Q&A stuff with him on here from a couple of years back.

[@CalCoolio]

This was bigger than Goldberg Lesnor :) Brilliant!

[@chrismarrs9661]

Thank you for uploading this, I was really interested to see what Giant Haystacks was actually like in the ring. He defiantly was a HUGE mountain of a man. I loved this video!

[@lesreed7943]

I assume you're American? They can't tell the difference between "definitely" & "defiantly"!

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

@@lesreed7943 Stax could be pretty defiant too, if you wound him up enough.

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

This is him near the end. There are a lot of other videos of a younger more mobile Stax on KZbin.

[@Morris21]

It took place in Croydon in October 1991. Much of it was incorporated into the 1992 Arena documentary, Masters of the Canvas.

[@AldershotDave]

I was there that night!

[@blaggermouth]

first time of seeing this. thanks for upload

[@shauntalbot5157]

Yes every Saturday afternoon all stopped 2 watch wrestling

[@terrywrigley9751]

Haystacks had his comupance!

[@johnsheahan2437]

They must have been having lessons from America wrestling, hours of endless talking, shouting and arguing, and then bugger all happens.

[@leenwctv1]

Watch haystacks use the blade at around 18.12 out the ring..

[@tedski69]

So sad he never got his bout with Hogan in WCW. A true gentle giant (unless you were stood in the ring with him. ;)

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

A few more weeks on ITV before SuperChannel lured WCW away and Stax would have been back on Sat afternoon ITV once more.

[@tonypastor705]

tedski69- Big show beat him up, in the show I mean. And he was taller than Haystacks. He was a winner often, one of the best, but can’t actually WRESTLE too good.

[@richardsharpe2966]

A very rare thing every one wants Giant Haystack to win

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

This almost always happened with Kendo's heel opponents.. Stax hated being the good guy for the night and didn't want to be cheered. He would complain to the promoter whenever he found himself in this particular matchup.

[@simonlevett4776]

When i first saw it, i wanted Nagasaki to win. I was too young and naive to realise it was all a scam.

[@MichaelBeeny]

What a circus!! The acting is however fantastic.

[@seanhammond4034]

Being a Fan of Kendo, Giant Heystacks & Steve Grey, also as a Drum Student of Lloyd, I got to be Ringside Taking Photos, that Only I have..

[@Bigtimecharlie1349]

Who gives a fuc keep them

[@tonypastor705]

I like the name Loch Ness better. He should have gotten that name back.

[@tonypastor705]

Great, interesting wrestlers in 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 England, but I don’t like the rounds thing they do or the warning thing.

[@djgaryowens]

Interesting not the usual Saturday afternoon stuff here.

[@neilcooke6524]

The best get a life

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

They did wrestle on World Of Sport 14 years later in early 77. It's on KZbin.

[@chitlika]

I dont know what that was But it certainly wasnt wrestling

[@mikenayers5981]

The pre match argument is so stereotypically British, where they’re shit talking eachother while remaining polite.

[@tonynightingale7356]

Master of ceremonies loved the sound of his own voice,

[@ColinPfc]

I now know where world darts champion Michael Smith got his look from 😂😂😂

[@richardsharpe2966]

If I was in Giant Haystacks shoes I would have belted Lloyd Ryan as well

[@LuciferLizardo]

If I was in Giant Haystacks shoes, I would have killed Lloyd Ryan by shooting on his fucking mouth. How come does he have the audacity to say Haystacks was a coward???

[@richardsharpe2966]

I also think that Pat Roach should have belted Lloyd Ryan and Kendo Nagaski tag partner as well

[@SuperNeildavies]

What a sad end to Kendo's career. The self-styled greatest wrestler in the world looked paunchy and well passed his best in this debacle which just seemed to fizzled out. Oh here's a tip to the ref, when a guy's out of the ring for ten seconds he's OUT. Kendo seemed to be gone for a fortnight before they declared Hay the winner

[@clarebear167]

He's still alive. I meet him every month

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

He was still a good worker at this point, but YOU try getting anything out of Haystacks in the 90s.

[@tonypastor705]

@@clarebear167Kendo is Peter thornby.

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

@@tonypastor705 Thornley not "Thornby"

[@tonypastor705]

@@kurtvanderbogarde8402 I’m not as young as I used to be.😅

[@JohnCashin]

Thanks for the upload Arthur, I was also looking for their original 1970's clash but that seems to have been taken down, this was actually better anyway, I think Kendo and Haystacks had a couple of bouts back in the 70's and Kendo won on both occasions, Haystacks looked a lot better in this though and Kendo looked a lot less at his best for some reason, having said that, looking at Haystacks cut and blood drenched face at the end of this match you would be forgiven for thinking that he was a funny looking 'winner' Lol.

[@arthurpsycho4214]

+John Cashin I don't have the 70's ones unfortunately - I have been looking. Nagasaki did win the first one, but by DQ I believe.

[@JohnCashin]

Arthur Psycho Thanks Arthur, hopefully someone might upload that 70's one again, not sure why it was taken down, from what I remember of it, the 70's match they had was stopped because Haystacks was cut in the head, it was a bit controversial though because some say Kendo cut him with some sort of an illegal move that he should have been disqualified for but the ref claimed he didn't see it, Haystacks also got public warnings, they also had a few non televised bouts of which there is some video footage but trying to get hold of these things can be a nightmare, someone somewhere probably has it, maybe laying in their old attic or basement.

[@BruceinFalkirk]

Arthur Psycho i have seen a 1970's match where Kendo beats Haystacks on a cut

[@Crackers8]

I’m very curious, do people who watch this watch it for its entertainment factor knowing that it’s acting Or do they think it’s real fighting etc? Thanks

[@JohnCashin]

@@Crackers8 Haha, good question, I guess it's a bit like the soaps really, Coronation Street, Crossroads, Eastenders etc lol.

[@AldershotDave]

18:10 Haystacks blades and then throws what he used away or puts it down his top (18:17).

[@AldershotDave]

When Nagasaki delivered a kamikaze crash to Steve Grey, why wasn’t he immediately disqualified?! Plus, surely a professional such as Nagasaki should prepare for mask “accidents”!

[@m1pete]

You can clearly see Pat Roach give the blade to him.

[@simonlevett4776]

Because it's all theatre and bad theatre at that.@@AldershotDave

[@simonlevett4776]

When ?@@m1pete

[@DewsburyCelticRLFC]

His brother was a better Wrestler Kendobagaknackers.

[@tilerman]

'The salt ceremony' 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@eddiezamora1986]

this was way better then a roman segment lmao

[@thegrimmtruth4185]

For a while after that elbow drop it seemed haystacks was on the verge of a heart attack ...

[@tonypastor705]

thegrimmtruth4185- Isn’t that what he eventually died of?😢

[@simonlevett4776]

This is actually possible as Martin's excessive weight would have been very unhealthy especially for his heart. That's why he was only 52 when he died.

[@robertcornelius3514]

Why is the Ref wearing a hoodie? Bahahaha

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

This was before every idiot wore one, when they were expensive and only worn by serious athletes out doing their roadwork.

[@martinworld7214]

@@kurtvanderbogarde8402 well that is a sweeping generalization .....the ref being a serious roadworking athlete would need verification

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

@@martinworld7214 That referee is Steve Grey, at the time European Lightweight Champion at other times World and British Lightweight champion (he held that last title on and off until his retirement in 2021, it is now held by Nino Bryant) You should know who Steve Grey is if you are a fan of Briish Wrestling and not simply a troll.

[@martinworld7214]

@@kurtvanderbogarde8402 if someone hasn’t got the vast knowledge that you possess , that doesn’t necessarily qualify as being a troll . I like watching old wrestling videos but i have no clue who he is . That said not everyone who wears a hoodie is an idiot ….

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

@@martinworld7214 What brought you on here if you don't know your old school British wrestling? (And if you did, even if you just casually tuned in on Saturday teatimes on ITV in the 70s/80s while waiting for the football results on World Of Sport, you would know who Steve Grey was.) Otherwise I stick to my guns about people who wear sportswear when not actually participating in, or training for, sport. Casual is a tiresome school of fashion.

[@samuelidredd8921]

Haystacks wasn't really six eleven, that is like saying Kendo Nagasaki is really a Japanese Samurai Warrior and not actually Peter William Thornley ex wrestler and businessman from Stoke-on-Trent, Haystacks was about Six ft 7-8 tops.

[@simonlevett4776]

I always wondered about his height. Pat Roach is about 6-4 isn't he [?], and Martin didn't seem seven inches taller.

[@funfunfun18]

I would love to know when and where this was? I saw Haystacks vs Kendo at Aldershot around 1991. I wonder if this is it

[@martinpygott1184]

I have no idea where you got this from but Arthur I salute you.

[@daveevans7009]

should not be in the same ring has kendo,haystack s hopeless. pat roach was not allowed to take part but he did

[@ronanc5914]

First time I saw Haystacks manhandled. He should of went to the Usa much earlier. 😁

[@VelvetMetrolink]

You're so right. WWF struggled to find heels for Hogan because he was so big he rarely looked in peril. He'd have looked like a child next to Haystacks, who could have made fortunes from one brief run.

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

He was in Stampede. Him and Dynamite Kid were Stampede Tag Champions managed by JR Foley (John Foley of the Black Diamonds to Brits of a certain age and above.)

[@philiplawton7546]

PETER THORNLEY V MARTIN RUANE

[@debowiec3]

Good ole Pete and Mart......innit!!!!!

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

This should have been for Wayne Bridges' WWA title rather than the CWA title which people knew was held by Rambo at the time.

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

Or better still Kendo should never have jobbed the title back to Bridges by DQ and this should have been him as defending champion.

[@johnrider5701]

I've seen more convincing fights in a primary school playground between two eight year old girls.

[@julesgiddings8747]

Giant Haystacks, the original hipster!

[@gilloselton824]

Nice to be a kid againb :)

[@michaelholmes4374]

I remember watching that match good times

[@kevinpalmer620]

Are those Robert Gibson and Ricky Morton or some other duo masquerading as the Rock n Roll Express (European wrestlers had a knack for "borrowing" North American wrestling names, like Greg Valentine.

[@TheOGdarkknight]

this "rnr express" was one guy and I htink this was before the American duo

[@RSR423]

You mean you Yanks borrowed English names...

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

@@RSR423 The Kendo Nagasaki that most Americans know, Kazuo Sakurada, the one managed by JJ Dillon in Florida, borrowed his name from this Kendo thanks to Bruce Hart, Bret's brother.

[@diggers7169]

Bomber is referee

[@johnsometimesoffandsometim8933]

great days at 4pm of absolute bollocks on a saturday afternoon when I was a kid,

[@billygrant2524]

Never knew Kendo Nagasaki wore a mask!

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

You really do need to do your homework. Unless you're an American who only knows about Kazuo Sakurada's version.

[@littlebigman6957]

What a fucking Circus

[@mikep6979]

1:10 damn he looks like the Big Show.

[@robertcornelius3514]

The ring looks so small.

[@kimholland9316]

Theres no way this was fixed😳

[@Bugster42]

i have no idea who the wouthy c t in the poncy suit is

[@AldershotDave]

Lloyd Ryan declares, “Kendo doesn’t have a mask”. So whose the masked guy at 25:12?!

[@andrewescalona8447]

HAYSTACKS SHOULD OF BELTED RYAN

[@ianwilkinson2731]

Haystacks a couple of inches taller than Pat 6’ 7” maybe out of breath whilst standing still ☹️

[@Kent933]

Wait pat Roach is 6' 7"

[@Brian-om2hh]

Haystacks was never the best technical wrestler you ever saw, was he? I wonder how he'd have fared in the US, with some wrestlers who had the ability to literally throw him around the ring, and body slam a 500lb wrestler? That would have been an alien experience for him I think. He just wouldn't have had the agility to compete. Pat Roach squared up to Nagasaki for a second. Now that would have been interesting......

[@mattwebb5276]

Haystacks in his day would of been doing the throwing lol and the real big men only get tossed around coz they assist the other guy FFS don't u know how it all works or do u honestly think it's real

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

1) Nobody can legitimately do a body slam on anyone without their help (unless it's someone really big slamming someone really small.) 2) Stax was a better athlete and a better worker than quite a lot of American superheavies I could mention, particularly the original William "Haystacks" Callhoun. This was him at the end of his career. The younger Stax was a credible Vader-like monster.

[@simonlevett4776]

Well said, there are still people that think wrestling was 'real'. I never understood that back in the 70's, and i don't understand it now. You can clearly see them jumping out the ring and falling over as if poleaxed at the slightest touch. Pure theatre.@@mattwebb5276

[@DazzasBoxing]

Do you know what CWA stands for? Seems to be a few CWA’s across the world

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

Catch Wrestling Austria. Actually Luc "Rambo" Porier was their champion at this point. (The Memphis CWA had become the USWA by 1991)

[@neilclark1681]

Continental Wrestling Association

[@SeamHead33]

9:50 skip the bullshit

[@planahath]

Was Giant Haystacks really cut? Or is that fake blood?

[@simonlevett4776]

We're probably never know for sure, but wrestling is fake, so i would presume the blood was fake as well.

[@mal_752]

Blading

[@cliffbird5016]

under british wrestling rules if a wrester wears a mask and losses the mask must be taken off to show who it is and their never allowed to wear a mask again using the same name. So as kendo lost this match he has to return to the ring without the mask or be banned from wrestling again under that name. But he will be allowed to change names and wear the mask again till he losses again. Well that was the rules in the 70,s and 80,s when i used to watch it every saturday.

[@arthurpsycho4214]

I think that had been dropped by the 80's. Unless there was a special stipulation (eg when The Spoiler unmasked) I saw loads of masked wrestlers lose and not unmask (eg every appearance of El Diablo).

[@CALVO36]

Remember pat roach in auf vedersein pet !!r.i.p ..and giant haystacks oh what days all ! Kendo nagasasi!Big daddy was brill way bak then 2 ect.mick manners..

[@pegasuskid4032]

what year was this. 80s im assuming?

[@arthurpsycho4214]

I believe early 90's, maybe 91? I'm guessing. But Haystacks got that hairstyle around 89 or 90 I think so it's not earlier.

[@Kent933]

Definitely before 1998

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

1991

[@たからだとしや]

昔、テレ東「世界のプロレス」でナガサキ、観たな.....。 なぜか四股踏んでた(苦笑）。

[@sanderslongdrive]

Absolutely hilarious! I've seen flies swatted with far more vigour. My late grannie (6st. 03 lbs.) could have simultaneously whupped them both.

[@mattwebb5276]

Lol u idiot 😂 if u really think that then u are an absolute melon

[@kanthakathewhite1012]

Nope

[@simonlevett4776]

Not terribly likely is it ?

[@jacksugden8190]

Both should have been disqualified.

[@matimus100]

Fake scaring women and children with violence and fear for fame and fortune A great example of how low the greed machine sadly is .

[@northernkonspiracytheorist1579]

Hiant gaystacks

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

did he ever give you one then? You'd still have piles from it even now!

[@brh4519]

The Year any one !

[@arthurpsycho4214]

+BR H Not sure, anyone know?

[@GravyDaveNewson]

+BR H judging by the haircut I would say early to mid 90s

[@a75llycat33]

+BR H 1990 i believe

[@seanhammond4034]

1991 Croydon Fairfield Halls

[@Evilbootlegz904]

what fuckin kendo is this I need the kendo from cwf

[@arthurpsycho4214]

The original one. This is taken from the other Kendo Nagasaki's wiki page: In the early 1980s, Sakurada had started working in various southern American promotions, starting with the Continental Wrestling Association in Memphis. During this time, he began using the "Kendo Nagasaki" gimmick, a Japanese Samurai character previously made famous by British wrestler Peter Thornley dating back to 1964. This incarnation was vastly different however; rather than wearing a mask, Sakurada wore face paint

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

@@arthurpsycho4214 Bruce Hart had seen the original Kendo visit Calgary in 1972 and devised a ripoff version of the gimmick for Sakurada in 1978.

[@singh2702]

This is honestly a joke.

[@lasv4444]

Damn that's about 12 ft ring

[@arthurpsycho4214]

Yeah it was for wrestling in not running around doing gymnastics in lol. Didn't need to be bigger. Although to be fair these two weren't ever going to do much wrestling.

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

@@arthurpsycho4214 I thought WWF rings looked stupidly BIG first time I saw them.

[@algeborusas1883]

What's this? 10 3-minute rounds? Is this boxing match or what?

[@jasonwhite1447]

kids

[@Steinerecliner]

This is how UK wrestling was in the day.

[@christopherhinton6456]

eight minutes has been waisted get on with it.

[@timbayliss4153]

Kendo Nagasaki was a fraud, in the light, he came from Tibet, or somewhere near there, NOT Japan. He was a good man, in other ways though, until he once used his psychic powers for evil, hypnotising someone to hit his tag partner, along with Uri Geller, making the football move, in a World Cup match between England and Germany, I think it was, during a penalty.

[@doryenmctown4795]

Damn such an evil dude, I hear he’s from Manchuria not Tibet, a student of Fu Man Chu, the game fixing thru hypnosis cannot be countenanced, we have rules to legitimize gambling

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

He's from Crewe.

[@mal_752]

​@kurtva😊😂😂😂😂😂nderbogarde8402

[@stuart7245]

I remember 40 years ago that Haystacks was a really unfit fat guy. Seems I was correct.

[@kissifferbritannica5357]

So how come he held his own in America? Against the stars of WCW...

[@stuart7245]

@@kissifferbritannica5357 All of that sort of wrestling is fixed in advance. Many are true athletes and it is a hard well choreographed game.

[@kissifferbritannica5357]

@@stuart7245 I agree, I just think he had some stamina! Was it 6x 5minute rounds back then? Half an hour needs a certain level of fitness. I couldn’t do it, and I’m normal size and weight. So credit to him

[@stuart7245]

@@kissifferbritannica5357 Agreed. I saw him interviewed and he was a really nice person

[@ivansanders8459]

I've seen 80 year old lesbian grannies got at it with more convincing passion.

[@kurtvanderbogarde8402]

whatever floats your boat, mate

[@markbeale7390]

Total miss match.

[@keiththomas9174]

all bloody fake