Kendrick Lamar Beat Drake, But at What Cost?

[@shv3t]

Nobody won and nobody will be listening to any of those diss tracks Kendrick made in a few months. Nothing about this beef was legendary and it won't affect Drake's standing in pop culture. Pusha T still has the best Drake diss. This was more about how much a lot of backpackers hate Drake more so than how good Kendrick is.

[@lilcountry7849]

Who told u this??

[@SlimKim3]

​@@lilcountry7849all you had to do is be around for the entirety of this beef and afterwards

[@mortaldogluis]

Bad take

[@theoligarchstepper]

Brain dead take. You had a guy dismantling the psychology and cultural relevance of another dude using different mediums of art and expression. The amount of entendres in the song Euphoria has never been done in a rap beef. The title 6:16 alone is layered so many ways from bible verses to him preemptively going at the sixty-nine god bar by saying the 6 god likes 16 year olds. Rap disses are about disrespect from Tupac saying what he said about Biggie and Mobb Deep to Ice Cube saying Easy E got a1ds because Jerry Heller fked him figuratively via his record deal and literally in the song no Vaseline. Kendrick not only served up layers of disrespect but dissected a man lyrically. Since you won't get it, I'll try to sum it up. You know how black kids in America will tear each other down as a means of fun? Your momma jokes don't have to be true they just have to be witty, clever, and funny. That's where rap disses come from that same culture.

[@rooneyokorodudu3958]

Too real. Nobody won.

[@zeadsi]

Nicki Minaj's husband and brother's previous sex offenses are the reason she can never come out on the ledge for Drake.

[@mhknfh3049]

She was definitely advised not to comment 😭😭😭

[@pokepokepoke64]

she already lost all respect when she married a pedophile, now she can't come out and support drake. too weird

[@3cks86]

SAY THAT SHIT THEN

[@smokescreenFromThe6ix]

Damn I didn't even think about that.

[@Winteramen]

Idk about this. Can someone explain?

[@goodwinn2518]

Lmao at the hip hop community collectively deciding to use this one picture of Kendrick for the entire beef

[@hiphopmadness]

😂😂😂😂 You ain’t lying

[@dwaynejpeterkin]

Boogeyman face 😂

[@commentor2058-p4b]

The boogeyman lmao

[@chiarosuburekeni9325]

It shows savageness in one photo. Like the exact mindset needed to absolutely destroy a mf in a diss battle. Funny considering how chill Dot normally is though 😂

[@Jeffreydefinitelynotdahmer]

Cus everyone collectively agreed he's the boogyman OooOoOOOUuu 👻

[@CJ-BZ]

6:07 There is NO SUCH THING as “women’s high school basketball” its GIRL’S….Girl’s High school basketball 💀

[@RVNGxC7]

Tell that to cops that lock up 17-19 year olds to be tried as an adult… it can’t be both ways. Either they’re all kids or none of them are

[@paintedfingernail2308]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING!!!!!

[@PlanetVz]

It wasn’t a high school basketball team either. She tried to clear the air but yall don’t care

[@GlobnarTheGreen]

Exactly wtf

[@JLWprime10]

@@GlobnarTheGreen it’s the same shit man

[@blazaybla22]

Kendrick calling Adonis a black king in MTG just solidified the point that it was never about Drake’s genetics or parentage

[@missshannonsunshine]

It just made me side eye him Esp bc his wife is half black. How can he call that white baby black? A black KING? Bffr

[@ericaj4494]

He wasn't serious about that, in no way shape or form is Adonis black. Being 25% does not qualify as being black, he was playing on that in the diss. Gotta be able to read between the lines and not just what's being fed to you. Mixed biracial blacks can only have black children by the other parent being black. If the other parent is also biracial then you child is also biracial not full stop

[@chuckdeuces911]

He's a kid, he has no choice. If this were the 90s back when people were real and not zombies, Kendrick would be toast. Dead dadda... Calling anyone king or queen is a ridiculous misnomer to begin with and it shows how uneducated someone is... which is not Kendrick who went to a chartered prep school. In the entirety of the world there's been 20 billion people roughly. Out of those 20b there has been maybe 3000 kings and queens each. That's a high number. So to say people are kings and queens doesn't make sense. Kings and queens are who cause war, slavery, poverty, destitute suffering, and worse. It's 100% about race to Kendrick and his people. Ok maybe 98.9%. That's why so many blindly ride with Kendrick like Tupac. They're both actors, literally.

[@johngrizis]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@chuckdeuces911 by that same dumb ass logic, calling people zombies is uneducated and doesn't make any sense, because they don't actually eat brains. It's like saying that metaphors and analogies are dumb because they're not literally true.

[@wlashay56]

@@chuckdeuces911people ride (black people mostly) with Kendrick and pac because they understand and feel the lyrics they rap about which obviously you can’t so you call it blind but in the 90s Kendrick would be fine because he can do what most of these trash ass rappers can’t do today which is actually display real lyrical skills

[@justincarreras7753]

“Her claim was that he was a fan of women’s high school basketball. Like that’s a perfectly normal sentence to say as a 30 year old man.” 😂

[@bruceleeds7988]

We don't even watch Women's NBA. WHY IS HE THERE!? 😳

[@rdubdojaclick]

"Women" don't play basketball in high school... *GIRLS* do 🤨

[@blytheskrieg]

he is a fan as kdot said... sorry had to say it

[@bruceleeds7988]

@@blytheskrieg at least basketball players can run for their life 🤣

[@blytheskrieg]

​@@bruceleeds7988drake hears those dribbles from women's bball teams as wop wop wop wop wop

[@GnA_000]

Kendrick came with an entire arsenal from army knives to Nuclear warheads. Drake came with a few Desert Eagles thinking he's John Wick or something

[@dericzachary3535]

Yo 😭😭😭🤣

[@AffectiSaVerb]

Word

[@leeemo]

If anything it's the opposite - Drake & his team came with an arsenal of artillery, but Kendrick took him out with a fucking pencil.

[@JPDD2]

Baby Deagle in 9mm. He wasn’t hittin that hard fr lol

[@beargummy1330]

Nice Analogy

[@WestCoastSamoan]

Kdot won at the cost of Drake's career 😂😂

[@maxxmarino6500]

It's hilarious that people really believe anything will change lol

[@ODOGHOST]

there will be more coming out on drake

[@no8978]

​@@maxxmarino6500drake probably won't get arrested but the public will definitely look at him differently which I think is a powerful change

[@maxxmarino6500]

@@no8978 lol okay, come back to this comment 3 months from now and we'll revisit this

[@catra195]

Ain't nobody buying a Kendrick album 😂

[@DMINISHED9]

Imagine another black artist saying to Public Enemy ‘you always tryin’ to free the slaves’

[@anonymous_dot_com2326]

Yeah, like thats just the dumbest move

[@thegreatestever913]

Bcuz every song Dot put out is about black excellence but like Drake said he doesn't even go back to his hood to plant money trees then he's engaged to a half white woman who he cheats on to sleep with full white women

[@toilettisha122]

Hip Hop spent two years ganging up on a female rapper who was shot and Drake was one of the main ones doing it. I don't want hear no moral outcry now that he got his karma.

[@AngeBiampandou]

And he spent the last 3 albums going at his famous ex girls like Rihanna and Serena Williams now that they are both in comitted relationship with children. How corny can you get. Drake nice guy facade been dead. He never was who portray himself to be. He likes strippers, IG models and teenage and barely legal girls he can mold. He is not looking for his "Beyoncé" and settling down at all

[@tinygoat2531]

Shot by who? Leaving that part out means your karma coming 2

[@honse6794]

​@@tinygoat2531 tory lanez. Shit was proven go look it up

[@kevinryt4963]

​@@tinygoat2531what's your opinion. Was she shot by Tory or not?

[@ib1205]

That’s why the whole 20 v 1 narrative doesn’t work. He subs people like it’s nothing and when they respond he plays the victim

[@cookingwitchefzayy8830]

Having Mal be the example as the stan is nasty😂😂😂

[@EarthTraveler3087]

Ayo Savon go to the... 😂😂😂

[@malikcrim13]

Deserved

[@CJohnson3180]

He earned it

[@magicvampirelver1321]

LLmfaoo 😂😂

[@SairajRKamath]

I'd give that distinction to Los Pollo TV 😂😂😂

[@danwg3368]

I mean... I feel like we've always known that Kendrick COULD drop more, and obviously it would be dope if he did, but we also know that Kendrick isn't beholden to the desires of his fans. He's going to drop when he wants to, and we know it's going to be fire every time because Kendrick doesn't sacrifice quality for anything. He explained on the song "Worldwide Steppers" that one of the reasons we waited 5 years for Mr. Morale is that he had writer's block. Why would anyone want him to drop music when he had no inspiration to create it? That's how you get two 20-song albums a year that are 90% filler (e.g., the way BBL Drizzy has been doing it for the last few years). Quality takes time, and I wouldn't ask Kendrick to change the way that he makes music. I think it's clear by now that he knows what he's doing

[@pthesmith]

💯💯💯

[@mrworkowt5419]

Facts

[@boogiekimx]

Goated comment, Quality takes time it can't be rushed 🎉

[@hoodieddespair]

Drake drops because he HAS to (UMG lapdog). Lamar drops when he wants to.

[@SeahawkSTRIKE]

precisely. People complaining about his frequency but will also be the same ones complaining about quality decreases too. I say let him drop whenever as long as it's fire

[@parkermudsen1063]

What kills me is how people (particularly in the Hip-Hop community) wants to hype up how rap battles should be as disrespectful as possible with anything on the table to use against the opponent, yet will criticize the tactics and what was said after the battle is over. Stop the nonsense.

[@FinalFlash2110]

this is pop

[@TeganHoney]

You sound crazy 😂 of course you can use anything in a rap battle and you must expect the people feedback. You’re asking us not to feel and express our feedback.

[@parkermudsen1063]

@@TeganHoney fine but the audience just sounds schizophrenic af by switching directions like that.

[@TeganHoney]

@@parkermudsen1063 lmao 🤣 not schizophrenic. You are wild. Welcome to the internet 🛜😮‍💨 it’s all shits and giggles 🤭

[@notfex1427]

​@@TeganHoney, that's the problem, those "feedbacks" are dumbass opinions or shit that already doesn't need to be broken down because they already contradicted themselves. Either that or it's just straight hypocrisy.

[@KExKE]

The craziest thing about this beef is from the time it started to the time it ended Kendrick hasn’t been seen in public at all. Bro got the whole world crip walking to ped0 allegations and just taking care of his kids somewhere.

[@MicStyle257]

Dead ass C walkin to the character assassination of the diaper sniper lol

[@nbogavac]

Hardly taking care of his kids, cause he is in NY alone, but go ahead

[@sillimilli3802]

​@@nbogavac you're talking as if you know his every move

[@MicStyle257]

@@nbogavac oh cuz drake said so? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 family been with him the whole time goofy

[@henriettebopda5895]

​@@MicStyle257Drake stans are dummies lmfao

[@chefjoy89]

Kendrick fans always understood why he didn't drop so frequently. Just like Nas and other rappers with a real message or something meaningful to say takes time to drop albums

[@juanway]

Nas dropped frequently

[@chefjoy89]

@juanaway that new for nas he would drop every 2 to 3 years prior to kings disease

[@divin3kag3242]

so did those meaningful words change the world?

[@dannydanumba]

That and Kendrick claims it’s because he actually spends time with his kids with Mr Morale having a theme about it

[@CryptoWolf1]

​@divin3kag3242 Yes, he turned them young girls to OvHoesss😂

[@cobracob]

Drake donates $100,000 in bail relief while he also lost $565,000 betting on Fury's fight

[@dannydanumba]

Yo that Usyk vs Fury fight was amazing. Usyk came through 💯

[@supersardonic1179]

Not defending the guy but that's just prop money from his sponsorship with Stake.

[@supersardonic1179]

@@dannydanumba Usyk an ATG

[@35daysstraight]

​@@supersardonic1179his stake deal? You talking about the 100 million dollar deal? That one😭

[@H00dN3rdz]

wow

[@randomdudeWithoutAniPhone]

I can say for sure Nobody, Absolutely nobody has ever wrote a letter to whole family of the person he/she is dissing in a diss track. So, yeah Kdot owned him xD

[@cesarmoreno21790]

Shit was trash bro. Lol and no I'm not a drake fan 😂

[@daShadoSage]

​@@cesarmoreno21790Every single piece of art will have even one fan...or a few haters. But critics, streams, and fellow rappers have determined the opposite of you by a landslide.

[@Eddybo22]

Some of it was fabricated so therefore it made the whole diss null and void.

[@daShadoSage]

​@@Eddybo22​Every Drake diss record had fabrications which K Dot called him out on before and after the fact. Kendrick may have artistic exaggerations but little actual fabrication. If the whole duaghter part isn't true, that would be one verse out of 4 verses. It would mean 1 claim vs ~15 on the track. Also, truth isn't necessary in a beef or rap battle. For instance, i don't believe 2-Pac fuq'd the opps wife from Hit Em Up. There's other examples but i don't think i need to list them all.

[@Eddybo22]

@@daShadoSage so it's okay that KDot fabricates but call out Drake for everything. Got it! 👍🏾

[@rasheeddaley6773]

dj akademics saying drake is giving kdot his first number one when kendrick's first solo number 1 was humble, a real drake meat rider lol

[@AngeBiampandou]

He knew what he was doing. He is pushing the "your first number one I had to put it in your hand" narrative which doesn't work with Kendrick at all. Kendrick isn't Wizkid, Tems, Future, Travis Scott or J Cole. And let's not act as if Rihanna did not give Drake his first TWO number ones too

[@nikkirenae9823]

He was talking about poetic justice which came out years before humble ...either way Drake brought absolutely nothing to it.

[@rasheeddaley6773]

@@nikkirenae9823 it didn't go #1 either, I hate people who try to take credit for other's success

[@UnkoveredPF]

It’s Kendrick First DEBUT SOLO #1. Humble didn’t go #1 on the first week. But again, Drake didn’t give it. Dot took it!!!

[@FlurryMainchin]

​@@nikkirenae9823 The only reason I can even remember Drake was on that track is because of so many people pointing out the irony of it in the years since

[@AudiomoeTV]

Drake is an entertainer… Trying to hold him up to K Dot standards is insane

[@IrresistibleWitch]

Drake called him out. So Drake is insane!

[@DibsEquipped]

Yes Drake is entertaining. Kendrick is not.

[@GeraldFromTheBlock]

​​@@DibsEquippedI hope you're getting paid for the level of glazing you exude.

[@brobeomi7975]

@@DibsEquipped man why can’t we all just be happy for these two massive giants in the rap game breathing life into the dying industry? I just don’t understand nothing was ever really gonna stop drakes career even if it was true tbh why can’t Drake fans except Kendrick won? It’s not that hard💀

[@dannydanumba]

@@DibsEquippedDrake is a minstrel show and he has black face photos to prove it

[@Hellismary]

Drake deserved what he had coming to him, poetic justice no pun intended. When your going out of your way to steal song concepts, hop onto artists waves fake support them then discard them, sleep with numerous industry people’s significant others and a host of other infractions this is what should be the result of those deeds. Let alone being devoid of any growth in the music, a growing distain towards women in his lyrics I mean attacking Rihanna and Serena for having healthy relationships is just strange. I could go on and on that’s how much I personally feel this was needed.

[@akhilanand6915]

Only sane take in the comment section.

[@XxTesla21xX]

As someone who's always found drake corny and uninteresting and was baffled by his success, this shit was validating lol. I also didn't really get all that into kendrick until Mr Morale so him being the one dismantling Drake's whole facade wasn't like my hip hop hero coming to the rescue or anything

[@queenc2144]

No blood was spilled Drakes bodyguard :👀

[@rasco27]

Security guard. And it was retaliation for shooting the weekends manager bodyguard.

[@kaelthunderhoof5619]

It's OVO and XO battle

[@mikearchangel7998]

Fuck the hip hop industry. When kenny said I think he should die, I feel that that goes double for the industry. So much talent wasted in the trash being put out thats on blast and the lives lost that could have given more.

[@ovenfreshhhhh]

kendrick is saying we gotta noah's ark the entire industry if everyone knew about diddy and was either part of it or turn their backs on his victims... what kinda shady ass shit is that...

[@kamohelomonakale353]

NOTHING about this battle was normal. From Kendrick calling out 2 of the biggest stars in rap,to Cole apologizing and to the way Dot effortlessly dealt with Drake. Two giants at the very peak of their powers have NEVER collided like this. When two elephants fight, the grass suffers. It's an age old notion. NOTHING ABOUT THIS BATTLE WAS GOING TO BE NORMAL. NOT THE START, NOT THE BATTLE ITSELF AND CERTAINLY NOT THE AFTERMATH. Kendrick won the greatest rap war in recent memory, and there's NOTHING anyone or anything can do to take that away from him and us his fans.

[@jccurtis22]

have them do a real rap battle - back and forth over the internet isnt a rap battle

[@imansherman1766]

@@jccurtis22& exactly what do you think the outcome will be ? Kendrick.

[@jacobconcannon4677]

kendrick had balls to call them both out at their peaks

[@youwantmeh456]

no one cares

[@AbsurdCats]

@@jccurtis22 Drake gave up. His label and endorsements are pissed.

[@southp1992]

K Dot won, the cost? Wat THE INDUSTRY? In which he virtually stayed away from? Whatever they try to throw at the Dot he will persevere and be preserved

[@paquinraino8180]

Exactly, people are saying he only said that now that he benefits him, it never came to their mind that he take time to confirms shit. Also we know that Kendrick planned this before and baited Drake into the beef, and basically talked about the whole weird industry in Meet the Grahams, he's not using women against Drake, he is talking about the industry being what it is. Nope they prefer to not speak about it. The proof will take time, but at least t's better than the Diddy situation where nobody said shit for years

[@KickBenjamine]

Facts...Kendrick comes off as a creative genius who will always know what to do that's why it's just BIg him.

[@lilshakurarchives]

lol drakes an opp thats why i made a diss

[@denzibluesolinfinitymusicw6535]

Facts fam

[@charlespancamo9771]

the cost is: no more beef with rules. just say whatever, doesn't matter. It's so stupid. Also kendrick approached the beef like a woman, was emotional like a woman, even sounded like a passive aggressive scorned woman. It was pathetic. I wanted to see MEN, BALLS, TESTOSTERONE, just like the old days. This was just sad and sets an extremely bad precedent for future diss battles/beef.

[@MeDeChamp]

K dot fans don’t want him to drop more frequently, his most is worth the wait.

[@jaywilliams9523]

I mean he’s an independent artist not a major label artist so he can drop when he chooses but he drops like nipsey only when he has something of value to say or speak on. If drake wasn’t given that 450 million and was a independent artist u wouldn’t be seeing him drop like that either that label gotta get their money with interest so he has to do all that when u sold urself to them especially at that price u have no choice.

[@mexinerdentartaiment]

@@jaywilliams9523thought he was still with top dawg

[@jaywilliams9523]

@@mexinerdentartaiment he’s on his own label pglang he still fucks with TDE but even then top dawg isn’t a big label like Sony universal and the rest

[@OGgracious1]

As a purist, I loved it. I haven’t been excited about anything to come out of hip hop for the past 10 years. It was like life being breathe back into a dead body

[@lakeshoresubtleties]

You just need to look beyond the mainstream.

[@pthesmith]

Kendrick was doing some much needed house cleaning for the culture. He was taking out the trash that has been polluting Hip Hop.

[@joelm.650]

@@lakeshoresubtletiesI think he means classic level elite of the elite level work

[@Observerw]

@@joelm.650yea there are examples if you look beyond mainstream all this ish is distractions there is real quality music being made by other artists

[@lakeshoresubtleties]

​@@joelm.650i got it. But also, to be a classic, it has to reach critical mass. There is worthy stuff out there in the last decade that just hasn't reached enough people to be considered all time classic. It's the selling out of hip-hop, which has completely pulled the rug out from any of the real elite artists since around the time Cole and Kendrick came out. They were like the last greats to be able to slip through the cracks into the true mainstream and become legends.

[@l.a.w.6494]

Nicki can't speak on it because her family has its own issues in that department.

[@LexmoneyButler]

It was her choice

[@welilemngomezulu2559]

Not really, Drake has always been shady towards Nicki and she’s finally seen him for who he is.

[@l.a.w.6494]

@welilemngomezulu2559 she's married to a guy convicted of the type of things Drake is being accused of. For good reason she's going to stay out of it.

[@--REGULAR--REGULAR]

Keep in mind if Drake didn't name Whitney. The battle wouldn't have gotten to the point where they are throwing "me too allegations" at each other. Its Drake's fault for the battle turning ugly.

[@jondrip]

That’s not true Kendrick was going to go at Drake now he did no matter what the Whitney thing was just an excuse lol we all kno kdot hate that boy he was not gonna spare him

[@--REGULAR--REGULAR]

@@jondrip I disagree. He hated his character drake portrays in his music which is the complete opposite from when he first came out. He was warning him to just be himself on eurphoria and 6.16 but then drake drops family matters and dragged kendricks family into the battle for the second time. 💀

[@jondrip]

@@--REGULAR--REGULAR so out of all the fake characters in the game he handpicked Drake to address right? lol…sure ok

[@--REGULAR--REGULAR]

@@jondrip He went at both Cole and Drake...remember it wasn't just Drake. Also the constant subs he was getting from both Drake and Cole(its documented) were getting out of hand which explains the 'Like That' verse.

[@jondrip]

@@--REGULAR--REGULAR Kendrick been subbing Drake for over 10 years bro (also documented)…out of all the fake rappers Drake is the one winning at the highest level that’s what’s the real issue here at the end of the day…no matter who you are when you win for that long they will come for you

[@tribopower]

I feel like people had the exact same conversation when it was biggie vs Tupac, and then jay-z vs Nas... when will you guys learn

[@BobJones-xb3yt]

Yo that shit about kendricks fans knowing he could drop more often and does not. is mad corny G. When you're writing your own bars and concepts and telling a cohesive story, that takes time. Dissing someone you hate for staining the culture is easy

[@jamesjones-dx8eh]

Thank u were his album

[@juanway]

He has writers too

[@Citehzenratt98]

@@juanway no he doesn’t lol

[@JPK169]

Thank you

[@bleeem]

The same shit goes for games, even though i dislike rockstar games, their games are very detailed and clearly have effort put inot them, i hate the gameplay for being so lacksluster for the last 20 years i've been in this earth, but compared to bethesda and ubisoft they actually care for the product. Da vinci took years to finish one painting, he could do those in a week probably if he really wanted to, but he is a timeless master of the craft because he took the time.

[@mitchelldunn9149]

Bro all this sounds like cost for Drake. Not Kendrick. This whole video comes off like “Ohhh no Drake is gonna have to actually rise to an occasion, this is going to have repercussions for the whole world oh what will hip hop dooooo?!”

[@VinnieDangerous]

idk I feel like K. Dot did us a favor

[@IllDawgable]

🤝🏿

[@kevinryt4963]

True

[@hun34rd27]

Damn yall hate drake that bad?

[@aaronyogurt8723]

@@hun34rd27 yes, hate the way he talk, the way he walk, the way he dress

[@freshswagga100]

​​@@hun34rd27yep. Hate the way he walks, hate the way he talks, hate the way he dress.

[@quesostuff1009]

Regardless if you are team Drake or team Kendrick We got some supreme music from both parties Family matters is probs peak Drake Meet the grahams is still the most sinister thing I’ve ever heard and reminds me why Unc alch is the best producer

[@Hcworld12345]

Euphoria is the best track of this entire beef and not like us is the most fun

[@DADON99]

Meet The Grahams is creepy and weird😂😂😂

[@KDB349]

Team Drake let's gooo!

[@DADON99]

@@Hcworld12345Family Matters is by far the best record in the beef and Not Like Us giving Kendrick the W just shows we live in current days and not back in the days cause the “fun” song got Kendrick the W…not the song with lyrical breakdown

[@sir_tt_maths]

​@@Hcworld12345 Indeed. But we gotta admit that ghostwriters went crazy on family matters tho. Of course that was before they went on vacation, leaving poor Drake to respond alone on "the heart part 6". That's a probable scenario considering the difference between "family matters" and "The heart part 6" is night and day.

[@JimmySlick]

Using this beef as an example of setting hip hop back is not a good example. The past 10 years listeners have been allowing and consuming the worst type of trap music about killing, drug use and belittling women and not so subtle gang ties. Some these rapper are in jail for killing their own friends or because of drug rico cases. The consumers are the reason for hip hop being set back. We like and bump this music everyday and give these guys a platform and money. Now that drake and kendrick beef they’re the reason hip hop is setback. BULLSHIT my man BULLSHIT

[@acecashman1237]

Fax, this beef was the shot in the arm that Hip-Hop as an art and a sport needed to help get it on track. We still got ways to go, but right now we're onto something.

[@smr6141]

Thank you someone had to say it. I purposely gave up on Hip Pop as a genre for these reasons with a few exceptions. I hope what Kendrick did wasn’t just a one-off we need this to continue

[@ThatGuy-vi6cj]

💯💯

[@moniqueyoung6304]

Thank you!

[@grantfedden798]

best take i've seen

[@username-ru6ul]

He warned everybody with the line “Stop playing with me, for I turn you to a song”

[@theninethrees8044]

I’m from Toronto and Kdot won. Plain and simple. This man even boosted city’s economy 😂😂

[@Chriswilson-vg6vp]

No you’re not

[@TheronEvo]

How can you say non sense ? ​@@Chriswilson-vg6vp

[@nocappp47]

@@Chriswilson-vg6vp tell me you're cheesing fam

[@awc6007]

⁠@@Chriswilson-vg6vp Bro trying to be cool

[@Chriswilson-vg6vp]

@@awc6007 he’ll yell these guys pulling out all the tricks I’ve seen it all lol

[@EliteBlackSash]

“You and I both know we got some shxt to address” …Kendrick said it, Metro said it, neither elaborated. We really still don’t even know what this beef is about. That’s the wild part. I feel like Ebro and others injected their own feelings. But, we really don’t know what has gone down behind the scenes.. What we DO know is… Kendrick kept it light on Euphoria, even though he was rapping his ass off, and warned him not to keep on with the family angle. Drake didn’t listen, and he got himself bodied.

[@savior-]

it doesnt need to be elaborated, its a known thing that drake and kendrick havent liked each other mainly because of control

[@DuckBofa]

I absolutely despise this narrative that holding someone accountable and exposing their terrible actions that affect many people is somehow depicted as “black men tearing each other down over rap beef”

[@seth131]

I think the issue is that if K Dot knew all these supposed "facts" and only held drake "accountable" when it was convenient for Kendrick is the problem. If you want to call someone out for "terrible actions" as you said, do it upon finding out and expose them. Waiting for that person to piss you off before you expose them is not a good look, especially if you think that person is harming people. Its also the same for Drake if he actually has proof that K Dot is an domestic abuser. If you have info that could save victims livelihood, SPEAK UP IMMEDIATELY. That's why I personally think its all just battle rap jabs which, if true, is just black men publicly tearing each other down. That's my opinion but I'm just a white guy who loves hip hop and has followed and enjoyed both artists since 2011.

[@kanaentaylor1095]

I agree like how are we as people can say we’re tearing each other down when clearly drake needs to be accountable for the fuck shit he’s done for years and everyone has glossed over it’s something that’s pissed me off about this situation is how some people and some rappers and OG’s are treating this situation like no drake needs to be held accountable for his actions with the young girls to befriending actual pdf dudes and keeping them around to him using our black culture whenever he’s thinking of his own personal gain cuz we shouldn’t be having another r Kelly situation again or even in this Diddy shit you would think we would have smartened up from all this stuff but of course that’s not the case so I totally agree that Kendrick holding drake accountable is the best thing I’ve seen in hip hop in a long time cuz Kendrick drew that line in the sand that needed to be drawn

[@seth131]

That's a fair point, I agree with you. In this case with two famous rappers, it would be out of pocket to start throwing unprompted accusations around without hard proof. And like you said this beef was the perfect vehicle to air accusations from both sides without legal matters getting involved.

[@freetheost]

@@seth131 Unfortunately it doesn't always work that way. Speaking from experience... I've watched someone attempt to expose a popular .pdf internet celebrity only to be met with hate and vitriol. The abused party opened up to their friends, and one friend was understandably enraged. They went to great lengths to try to get the abuser taken down, but the result was simply that the abused party denied the allegations. At that time they weren't ready to go through having all of that go public, and they were also pressured by the abuser. Even the police did nothing. Now scale that up to a celebrity at Drake's size. The problem is that a 3rd party really can't expose someone for this type of thing without a ton proof in their hands. Knowing something just isn't enough, even if you are right or have seen proof. Kendrick seems to be aware of this. The 11 year old girl (if real) has a life, friends, family, etc. and Kendrick exposing her to the world to win a rap beef would be terrible on his part. It's just as tricky for .pdf allegations. Abusers like R. Kelly and Diddy were exposed by victims(of several crimes) long before anything stuck because of all of the money and power they can throw around. I'm sure celebrities know how easy it is for celebrities to bury stories and restore their public image.

[@kanaentaylor1095]

I definitely agree that both Kendrick and drake said some things that heavy as hell about each other and we don’t have proof at all on both sides but it’s just a lot of weird stuff going on with drake after the beef ended this is why we haven’t seen him out and about and especially after this diddy stuff come out it’s starting to seem more plausible that drake is or has done some creep shit where so far nothing hasn’t come out about Kendrick yet or that’s if ever does or if its true but I do agree that this stuff about drake could’ve been brought up sooner especially if it is true but not just solely Kendrick but anyone in the industry can’t just say this things without getting blackballed of course which is not an excuse cuz the truth should be exposed regardless but sometimes you gotta play your cards right in this situation and maybe Kendrick wanted to be in the more a position of power where it’s like he doesn’t have to play the politics the same way he did when he was on TDE now that it just him he can really draw that line but I’m not caping for Kendrick decision but I’m trying to apply some logic to all of this

[@BabyBeyTV]

Drake problem is he never grew pass highschool.never matured pass being a highschooler

[@Peepee_leepee]

That’s exactly what I was thinking when I saw the cover art for the heart part 6 like wtf 😂

[@SDPTheGhost]

The way thousands of people on Twitter and Instagram have said some of the dumbest shit amid this battle makes me laugh and also have no hope for the world.

[@AlexRH1991]

Its just music. Cant connect this to the world tho me i like this music but im more of a fan of corridos witch is spanish style story telling. This only affects some people who are deeply into this but a lot of people are just living their normal lives. This president thing tho now that is making me feel like we are losing hope for the future. 😔😔 sadly we are just skrewed by the government.

[@Doomthinkingman]

Found 2 Drake stans

[@ManOfCinema-]

​@@YxYzYx this.

[@simiren-f2l]

Oh! World again! No! It's music.

[@IllDawgable]

What did they say?

[@mthokozisizikhali8105]

Does future, the weekend or metro booming ever speak on black issues or stand for anything that significantly impacts the black community?

[@infiniterer287]

Nope, but they don't simultaneously disrespect it calling it "ignorance" like drake does. That fake can hold the L..... and the A..... Minorrr.

[@mushimbwakafuta4083]

​@@infiniterer287I can't help but laugh at the, A minorrr because I am hearing it in Kendrick's voice even though this is not supposed to be funny. 😂😂😂

[@stefanharris659]

Mal did something I thought impossible And made me believe Joe Budden was right to separate himself from Mal 😂

[@NobodyHasToAgreeAllTheTime]

Yup it was at this moment I see why

[@Chuffy664]

You need serious help if you think Joe was right looooool... And you obviously have no critical thinking whatsoever 🤣🤣🤣

[@jr4338]

Notice no one came to bat for drake....not WAYNE not NICKI not BiRDMAN , NOt 21 SAV, No OnE...

[@najahshikamaru620]

Wayne probably didn’t because he warned Drake to stay Canadian

[@PlanetVz]

It’s not their fight, like how Snoop stayed out of it after his voice was used…

[@filmexpressreviews]

Hip hop needed a culture cleanse and Kendrick is the right person to do this. We need less inauthentic people like Aubrey.

[@divin3kag3242]

so rick ross, future and the likes are allowed to stay? 🤣🤣🤣

[@daltonbedore8396]

@@divin3kag3242 fan's dollars (and attention=dollars to the industry) dictate who stays and who goes. put your money & attenion up for the real ones.

[@beegpappa7900]

@@divin3kag3242 When did he say that though. Sounds like you're the one with a problem. He said less inauthentic people so no. They aren't but if you want Drake to stay. Be my guest.

[@divin3kag3242]

@@beegpappa7900 lol if he's calling out the industry that means everybody whats so hard to understand?

[@divin3kag3242]

@@beegpappa7900 isnt future the toxic king, isnt rick ross a stolen persona???? very hypicritical if ya ask me but keep being woke bro

[@nawfsidemoe9858]

K Dot came in like a super hero to stop Drake from topping Michael Jackson’s record

[@user-rg4tp3qz2d]

No Taylor Swift beat it instead

[@BarryMckokiner001]

He still gonna do it anyways eventually

[@judahisreal4678]

Actually it was my all the rappers that came together after Drake signed a deal for 250 million dollars and that's the only reason they spoke out because they asses ain't never going to get close to such a deal and that would include Kendrick they're not selling worldwide they're barely selling in in the United States

[@Victor-qj7os]

​@@judahisreal4678casual Drake fan thinking it's all about selling a rapper being called one of the greatest isn't described off the many records sold but how are the lyrics crafted and how it had impact on the community Drake don't have influence on nobody well maybe except girls (most of his fans) that just listen to pop songs that has no substance to it

[@daShadoSage]

​​@@judahisreal4678Kanye's been a billionaire signed to himself. Rick Ross (unfortunately) has multiple business lines that make more money and profits than music streams. Kendrick is the only rapper to win a Pulitzer, has more grammys, and has the freedom not to have to release half-baked albums multiple times a year to stay on top and fulfill a contract. Nothing for these accomplished ppl to be jealous of. Drake is an actor and great business person for sure. One of the most successful and smartest culture vultures since Elvis for sure.

[@CleoPhoenixRT]

K Dot reminds me of a few ytbers that millions follow, that drop content like twice a year, but the content is SO thought-provoking and top tier, that we all flock to any morsel they drop anyways. The dopamine hit doesnt decrease...it INCREASES when you get that notification because the quality over quantity ratio is so off the charts.

[@ihategoogle1181]

No offence but that analogy is cringe

[@3h4bMusic]

💯💯Well said!

[@CleoPhoenixRT]

@3h4bMusic Thank ya kindly!

[@3h4bMusic]

@@CleoPhoenixRT You bet, my pleasure!

[@ovenfreshhhhh]

are you thinking of COFFEEZILLA

[@Bobbytheman98]

At what cost? The HH world got resurrected. Drake is not gonna lose his reputation nor Kendrick unless the accusations are true.

[@ql5481]

Idk man a number one hit song about you being a predator and colonizer will stick it will at LEAST be a ugly stain in his career

[@issahgyandi3365]

@@ql5481 People forget quickly, man.. One or two club bangers and the world continues spinning. Or something..

[@EmoDKTsuchiya]

People don't care even if it is true.(which it is.)

[@martinrosario4018]

Nah the damage is done on drake true or not that’s always gonna stick with him because he has a history that leads people to believe it, it’s the same thing that happened with R. Kelly and Weinstein, it started with rumors in the industry until eventually it became public, and then it became without a doubt yea these guys are pdf files

[@lilshakurarchives]

drake lost after i made a diss on him AHAHAHA

[@coldloner7453]

Kendrick won and it didn’t even cost him anything, just drakes reputation. Thats it, one of the most craziest beef and Kendrick came out unscathed.

[@insidetheuniverse1]

Still didn’t adress the woman beating

[@realbosstakea]

@@insidetheuniverse1 and how hes a pocket watcher talking about drakes spending problems... thats hating... plus he lied about drake being a pedo... 17 is not pedo.... there are real pedos in the world and its not drake... its your politicans and lawyers... names you wouldnt even know about... plus kendrick lied about drake having a daughter.... seem like kendrick a bitter baby mama ... drake only took a L by responding and giving kendrick numbers... Drakes songs were harder and all the hate is bandwagons from kids who follow females, females who follow bitter haters like kendrick...

[@1c0nic_player]

glazing is crazy. we don’t know if anything kendrick said is true and it’s looking more likely that it’s not. in that case kendrick would have just lied about one of the worst things ever to win a rap beef. i’m aware drake is a weird dude but kendrick is implying so much more than that

[@nltcraze]

@@1c0nic_playerwe all know Drake is weird. And surrounded by weirdos. They all enable each other and Kendrick is not coming out unscathed but I don’t think kenny would lie about that and jeopardize his career for nothing. Don’t underestimate how sick the industry is. They aren’t operating with regular people logic or morals

[@1c0nic_player]

@@nltcraze this really isnt jeopardizing his career tho. like, right now its safe to assume that he didnt have the necessary evidence to accuse drake of that, and yet he has the biggest fanbase and most support hes ever had. i obviously dont trust the industry but i just need either of them to provide receipts

[@juanleal5146]

Kdot is like gta , we have to wait a long time but we know its gonne be bangers, drake is like fortnite , repetqtive but fun and willl always have people into it because its so popular

[@EhRandom]

Realest shit yet this comment should go viral fr cause drake overrated ngl

[@bonkregulator5237]

Exactly, its the same as "Drake as a fast food restaurant vs Kendrick as a Michelin star restaurant"

[@angel_of_rust]

Drake is more like Blizzard/Activiision.

[@electro5175]

Drake is McDonald’s. Kendrick is a 5 star restaurant.

[@NotLikeUs17]

@@EhRandomhe’s over exposed. That’s what happens when you’re backed by a music company and signed a 360 deal with them. They practically force feed you down people’s throats.

[@RonAcronym]

The craziest thing is Drake fans dont want to admit theyve always been Kendrick Fans, and they just dont wanna choose.

[@melvinslaughter7685]

I’m sorry but this comment is crazy..drake fans have never been Kendrick fans and that’s ok

[@wedontagelikemilktho.7839]

Nah they enjoy microwave music, You're basically calling them smart.😂

[@DavidM.Williams]

You're ridiculous. I'm the biggest Drake fan and love Kendrick's music and think Kendrick won the beef. Doesn't change the fact that I'm fan of Drake's music

[@d.a300]

Drake fans like Kendrick and acknowledge he’s a better lyricist but you never see Kendrick glazers giving drake props

[@riseoftheace4683]

On god I’m fans of both still listening to both

[@smoove8125]

He sacrificed aubrey’s reputation

[@ENT8801]

Kdot won musically and strategically. Drake is mc Donald's and Kendrick is the finest steakhouse, no DIDDY. If drake is done the weekend and future will benefit more

[@thatguyjersey]

I think worrying about two extremely rich people when you have bills to pay at the end of the month and you're not rich is insane

[@PeaceBeStill-]

🎯

[@steviehurley8200]

GREAT POINT

[@brandonbacote1664]

I think two people can enjoy music and debate about it

[@Omega-zz5wq]

Man, shut up. This is still art

[@judahisreal4678]

@@brandonbacote1664 you're not debating the dick riding and half of Kendrick Lamar lyrics are recycled lyrics from things he said in his other records so did we miss that

[@ScorpioIsland]

No one in history has ever been a fan of high school women’s basketball

[@EikshaBisht]

This !!! 💯

[@freshswagga100]

I mean if you got daughter on the team, you automatically are

[@YaroLord]

In high school its the GIRLS team. Not women. GIRLS.

[@vanillaface4261]

You’re probably right..crazy

[@redhunnid5142]

@@freshswagga100Bro don’t change the topic dude was literally following 11th graders at a random high schools in Texas and talking to them in the DM and followed her friend through the other friend and now that friend is currently a record label owner under the same label that owns Drake which is Universal Music Group. She’s literally on his payroll she’s set for life dude never hurt them physically and made sure to open doors for them financially so they will never expose him in their eyes they don’t feel like victims but we all know having sex with teenagers as a 32yr old man and making sure their rich so they don’t ever feel the need to tell on you ever is completely manipulative and wrong is the definition of pedo filia

[@jcraftgaming76]

kendrick solo’s the industry 😂 he’s now in my top 5 fr

[@ulemuphiri8489]

He was always top 5

[@jacobisaac9934]

​@@ulemuphiri8489not even close to top 5.

[@thebekgo1624]

​@@jacobisaac9934 🧢

[@therecreationalguru7323]

Drakes downfall was a cannon event

[@sayamacd]

Don’t forget about 6:16 in LA. That track sadly didn’t get the sample release so it didn’t get onto Spotify.

[@nonretrogradable]

What do you mean didn’t get the sample release?

[@DOUBLEJOE850]

Kendrick’s problem with Drake comes from the back he’s portraying an identity that is completely false especially considering Drake’s upbringing. Let’s not forget Drake came up as a star in Degrassi before making it as an artist.

[@alainahornsby9025]

Didn’t Everyone Know He Was An Actor Or Did He Hide It Im Lost 😂 Watch People Respond To This Like They Trying To Find It 😂 Bye ✌🏾 My Point🎉 Drake For Rap Hip Hop Pop R&B Hell Put Him In Movie It’s Gone Slap Stop Pretending Like Yall Don’t See This Man Talent FOH

[@wedontagelikemilktho.7839]

"Started from the wheelchair now we here!"🗣️

[@DOUBLEJOE850]

@@alainahornsby9025nobody is pretending or saying that Drake isn’t talented. A lot of fans believed Drake is exploiting the rap culture for his own gain by falsifying his identity

[@jbmp1390]

That's why I've always had an issue with him trying to play the street card. If he would've just stayed in his lane and been the former child actor that can rap and sing and makes good pop rap, he'd have been good. It's the fact that he has no real identity. He hops on waves for personal gain and then forgets all about it. He's the biggest culture vulture.

[@ChicagoBulls23453]

drake is not talented and has no classics FAX

[@mariokarter13]

"I've been losing friends and finding peace, honestly that sound like a fair trade to me"

[@zayzuess7120]

I don’t think Drakes at peace rn

[@wait_in_gold_ON_SPOTIFY]

@@zayzuess7120now he has nothing to lose. The worst shit possible is being said about him. Time to sink or swim

[@aferg76]

D-Don’t R-Rap A-Against K-Kendrick E-Ever

[@Chriswilson-vg6vp]

I’ve seen this comment 70 times

[@TheGoatedboy1]

Corny

[@1c0nic_player]

he literally only won a beef against someone who barely anyone liked to begin with. chill out

[@DADON99]

@@1c0nic_playerpeople ignore this😂. Drake was losing no matter what he did cause public perception from the public especially “the culture” was already made up on Drake before Kendrick even responded

[@truenoae8689]

Maybe unpopular opinion but the "F a rap battle, this a life long battle with yourself" was the coldest and most scathing diss from the beef

[@lordpicklenips3407]

Unless you’re a father with a basketball-playing daughter, you should not be interested in HS WBB.

[@superstar64]

*girls basketball, let's not pretend it's anything different.

[@darthdanzigg7659]

Does anyone really remember that Drake got famous from staring in Degrasse? That's the equivalent of zach efron in high school musical!

[@ronniewinstonjr.9526]

?

[@rasengon28]

...yes, everyone remembers tf

[@ShaneCM]

So? He’s also a good rapper so what’s the point

[@genius179]

Not even that like HSM was like 300x bigger than Degrassi, Degrassi was a Canadian show on Noggin like people quick to forget man, it was deep on the cable dial

[@kgjurai88]

Yeah he played a character named Jimmy.

[@Kingkentrell]

Why is a teacher putting on rich baby daddy in class

[@gromexecutive]

This is the comment I was looking for smh. The education system is assbackwards

[@DTreatz]

_"fOR thE cULTUrE!"_ #Degeneracy

[@AhriaGendarme]

@@DTreatz Get out of here with that alt-right lingo. Don't talk ignorantly- Either you're yet to see high school, or you're 40 years out of it.

[@Poloman1026]

I was gonna say the same thing 😭

[@ByLameSwami]

​@@AhriaGendarmeyou sound dumb.

[@Ditshwancho]

"Can’t Toosie Slide up outta this one, it’s just gon’ resurface" - oklama

[@acecashman1237]

In my opinion Kendrick was mainly going off of what all of us including him noticed about Drake's behavior surrounding young girls rather than some inside information that he had about him for years that he's just now mentioning.

[@nbogavac]

Well realistically, he doesn’t know sh*t about that and just gets his info from the internet (like everyone else) but is lyrically more skilled then you or me (an ‘average’ man) to the point where he can paint a vivid picture with words for someone who already believes those exact stories, and in that way ‘convinces’ them that it’s the truth…it’s literally that simple…

[@PlanetVz]

@@nbogavac you ate a whole buffet here. I am thoroughly disappointed in the twisted nature of Kendrick’s allegations so far. It probably took me an hour in total to look up all the receipts from both sides, and I’m not a prized writer with a wealth of resources. Unfortunately, I’ve seen people take this trend and truly believe Kendrick is revealing some inside information. It was really irresponsible for him, imo, and he lost respect from me. People in this very comment section have said the OVO sex offender registry is public information just because of the cover art 🤦🏽‍♂️ I don’t blame him for that part of people’s stupidity though; it should be obvious. HOWEVER, if I’m learning that I have to be careful with my words, I KNOW he understands that even more than I do but didn’t care.

[@jacobisaac9934]

​@@nbogavacexactly its manipulation on simple minded people.

[@jomalomal]

people acting like kendrick revealed some crazy shit when the wildest things he said were just calling out what was sitting right in front of us lol

[@dr.change9316]

exactly, and I'm leaving this sht wondering should we include a maximal age difference between people within a couple in the law system.?.. I mean if there is no legal issues with Drake's relationships why KDot's moral should be universal?

[@grif027]

@@dr.change9316that’s debatable sure, but I feel like anytime you have to say “well technically..” or “actually the age of consent..” regarding two individuals then yeah it seems like a moral grey area that you’re using legality to justify. I’m 26, I’d never nor would want to date a 18-20 y/o right now. So 30+ dating in that range is very morbid to me

[@dr.change9316]

@@grif027 my wife and I are 8 years appart... Am I a criminal !? The legal perspective is universal, there could be as much moral perspectives as people. Moral judgment is not an argument for me. It is in a grey zone because it should be for a society and common values to exist. So for me they both lost and hip hop lost in this mess

[@grif027]

@@dr.change9316 I’m not speaking on you and your wife, obviously I don’t know you. Specifically about Drake and the people who defend his actions with ages of consent when there’s a very obvious maturity and power disparity. You see famous people get away with terrible things all the time, a lot of times right in your face. And even though I think Kendrick has an ego and a bit of a holier than thou mindset, I think it’s very vindicating to see a powerful person get called out on their predatory behavior at this scale. I was being a bit generous calling it a grey area, I personally think it’s fucking gross

[@dr.change9316]

@@grif027 I would agree with you if there was an objective proof of position abuse. Until than, all I know is Kendrick playing a race card and sips accusations. Don't get me wrong, I never listened to any of Drake music prior this beef, unlike Kendrick's. Real prophets don't need to impose their way, they show it...

[@lyleseptember144]

I mean I think of countless rappers who aren't light skinned who don't do anything for the culture so what now

[@agollumcalledgandalf]

The single fact that he thinks that Toronto accent was invented by "a guy" and he would love to meet that guy, say a lot about how much Drake understands about accents and ethnic identity

[@thomascobbett]

Ye bro like I’m a white guy from Scotland, who is a big fan of the music yet obviously somewhat removed from the culture aspect (although I’m heavily interested), I never understood how people thought Drake was even remotely authentic. In my head Drake is more similar to an artist such as Justin Bieber than J Cole. Not even saying that as a diss, but the guy is whatever the American equivalent of “posh” is. Total poser.

[@KNWBDY.important]

​@@thomascobbett shoutout to Scotland, from New Zealand 🙌

[@thomascobbett]

@@KNWBDY.important fuck aye lad 😎

[@eugene188]

Drake has been corny with the accents for years. When he started speaking with a Jamaican accent and claiming he picked it up because he hung out with Jamaicans all the time. Like naw bro, he lived in Forrest Hill, rich white area in Toronto. Really rich. He said his mom struggled to provide for him and she did. But she also CHOSE to live in a rich white area.

[@thomascobbett]

@@eugene188 yeah it’s like, it’s not a contest of who had it the worst. Drake, however, is just so obviously a soft cunt. His background/aura/attitude doesn’t match his lyrics and image at all. Doesn’t make him a bad guy but he’s 100% the Ed Sheeran of rap. Not terrible, sells well, but ultimately just extremely vanilla.

[@huare7946]

Kendrick stripped 2024 Drake to 2009 Drake. I remeber all of these criticisms of Drake from then when he was fighting ro get accepted. Damn, this is such a ruthless take down.

[@PlanetVz]

It’s crazy how people were blocking his success since the beginning.

[@NaajiRahmbah]

I was at a small get together yesterday and one of his songs came on. About a quarter of the way thru *Skip. It made me wonder how much of a hit does it really take from this? He has a lot of songs that are popular but what happens now after this? People definitely look at him differently now. Meanwhile people will be looking forward to what Kendrick releases next. All ears are on him

[@kapo2012fb]

Drake was the greatest industry plant of all time

[@T0p0ftheM0untain]

Rich coming from Vince Staples. He talks a good game but he was reaping from the same status quo. So where was he when it got really tough? Making Netflix specials. He just doesn't come off as someone who really cares, just someone who has access to a platform to say what he wants.

[@ByLameSwami]

I just said ain't he on Netflix now? I ain't even watch that 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Half-emptyParkingLot7661]

You're right, he doesn't care. He isn't anything more than a hood version of an edgy contrarian.

[@kbrown3787]

Vince was born in Compton, grew up in Long Beach. He knew the streets. There is no analogy here on who owes what to the culture.

[@T0p0ftheM0untain]

@@kbrown3787 I mean I will leave it at that. He is making his bag and I respect that. He just doesn't resonate with my black experience I guess.

[@ladariusholmes1215]

The thing i hate about people in general is their inability to look at thing unbiased. Some people would pick a side regardless of how terrible their music couldve been. For example and not to pick on a Drake fans, but hes been putting out lifeless albums for a while to get that one over on Jackson and people will still claim every album is a banger.

[@reyadavocalist]

Don't you think they claim they are bangers because they enjoy them... 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@ladariusholmes1215]

@@reyadavocalist I mean, you can enjoy something that you wouldn't play at a party.

[@wedontagelikemilktho.7839]

​@@ladariusholmes1215Drake stans don't comprehend the language you're speaking. Which is FACTS!😂

[@StayBlessed47]

Most Drake fans are casual listeners. They don’t really care about the art, they just enjoy simple catchy music.

[@ladariusholmes1215]

@@StayBlessed47 And I'm 100% ok with that...as long as they stay in that lane. Lol...soon as they start talking art, that's what gets me riled up.

[@MetalSonic420]

Like That Euphoria 6:16 in LA Meet the Grahams Not Like Us Flawless victory.

[@DibsEquipped]

Yeah and it finished a lot of minds, who can no longer think for themselves. All for the best I guess.

[@chiefxvi403]

N all them songs were different, sound n flow, 6:16 was different kdot

[@Mokster43]

This guy really said "hip hop is a tool used to educate the black community" 😂😂😂

[@infiniterer287]

Yeah bro lost his mind on that one. Like HBCUs don't exist 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@josephmalone253]

I stand by that statement. Hbcu's focus on rap trivia.

[@SirYaliBeats]

The past hip hop, such as Public Enemy, De La Soul, ATCQ, etc. But even today, KOD, TPAB, “This Is America”. Hip-Hop’s true purpose was exactly as Ebro said, a tool to give voice to the voiceless. That’s why dance and street art/graffiti was a part of it.

[@neeyku]

@@SirYaliBeats You said it's exactly as he said but he didn't say a voice to the voiceless. He said it's a tool used to share information when the establishment fails to do so. so... Mokster already covered this. Also you've just thrown in a "that's why" there without really showing why any of these statements correlate. It is by no means a tool used to educate the black community. It is firstly a way of life. Secondly it is the power of music that has been achieved by those who believed in themselves no matter how much Crack, Instagram or Aids got thrown their way. It is the understanding, appreciation and wielding of the sacred art forms of dance, guerilla art & graffiti, spoken word and performance enabled by japanese rnd and a free market. Those who shine the greatest are the best writers, like Ice Cube & 50 cent across multiple genres and mediums. Hip Hop is a spirit that will never die, no matter how polluted the message becomes. Truly a test to us all. The Saga Continues

[@briancordero7674]

Drill Rap is good for Black Lives Matter.

[@LouLou.97]

I honestly think they'll both be fine. We'll remember this rap beef, but everyone will go back to listening to their new projects.

[@__tyrone_]

📠

[@chicityballa09]

I personally think that the collateral damage that was done in this beef is way more of a reflection of the hip-hop culture itself. People have the rights to make their critique because there is some truth to it. However with that being said, people keep forgetting that Kendrick warned Drake to keep it friendly and not mention his family and yet he still mentioned his family anyways. Also all of the people like Quest Love and Ice Cube who had harsh critiques about the beef also should assess their roles in hip-hop too. Ice cube still hasn’t settled his own beef with Westside connections and Questlove was involved as well with Takeover with Jay-Z when he went at Nas & Mobb Deep. I don’t like how the old heads are wagging their fingers at Drake & Kendrick when some of them also still have beef’s going on themselves and or have played a role in why rap beef is still prevalent. Vince Staples critique has way more validity however that battle is way deeper than rap as far as dealing with corporations and execs and wanting better for black art. All I’m saying is people need to be more accountable of their own actions within the culture instead of trying shift blame.

[@AngeBiampandou]

Vince Stapples played into respectabillity politics when he said that "we should respect ourselves if we want others (cough cough non blacs/whites) to respect us

[@DTreatz]

Here's a better take: The _"cuLTuRE"_ is shit, and needs a reset. 🤡🌍

[@chicityballa09]

@@DTreatzI agree with this whole heartedly

[@pokepokepoke64]

0:39 This is the hardest copium ive ever seen

[@davidbrown4540]

If we gon attack Drake because he "stands for nothing" well OK, but that means 95% of rappers gotta get flushed along with him.

[@GOSSIP911]

Agree

[@neeyku]

it's pretentious bs, no one artist is the gatekeeper to all of hip hop bc of the colour of their skin or how they body foe, you can easily be a multi genre talented producer and in fact they all are, teams of people write every hit. they just fuel this basic ass bish shit to stir up an audience with a red herring but yknow what it's fucking boring

[@stephenrobinson8244]

I don't need kendrick to drop every year or every 2years. I am. Happy when kendrick Drops. Kendrick fans know it's quality over quanty

[@hofniamwaalwa3724]

Nah, he starves y'all

[@stephenrobinson8244]

@@hofniamwaalwa3724 not at all, I've eaten well on every drop, replay value. Timeless art

[@mja4021]

Ian even know cole was mixed he so pro black😂😂😂

[@thebekgo1624]

I was just about now years old when I learned this. Wow 😂😂😂

[@missshannonsunshine]

He raps about it lol

[@joshuawhite4330]

"Half black half white like a piano" - Cole

[@raulleite8747]

U americans cringe for talking that much about colour. Now that u getting a little moxed lik in brazil, u gonna creatte classes of colour gradjation

[@tanyathomas2858]

@@joshuawhite4330 I'm an animal my video on discovery channel"

[@johnmcshame8751]

Drake fans: it’s 16 the age of consent in Canada Kdot fans: A MINORRRRRRRRRRR

[@PlanetVz]

FYI, 16 is the age of consent in half of the US. The rest are almost evenly split between 17 & 18.

[@johnmcshame8751]

@@PlanetVz ok, what’s your point? I was talking about Canada not the US. Is your point to defend the age of consent or where you just being unnecessarily informative? 🤔

[@basimnadeem1596]

@@johnmcshame8751the point being that Kenny fans still don’t have proof that Drizzy R@ped, or Molested any child. But will talk out of their ass as if they live with him 24/7

[@ovenfreshhhhh]

that's funny because canada and america are not the same lololol

[@PlanetVz]

@@johnmcshame8751 maybe it’s not you, but I’ve seen a lot of people try to draw a distinction between us and Canada. I’ve seen people use that to separate Drake from his blackness or black plight as if there weren’t slaves who escaped to Canada. So, my point was to lessen the divide in case that was your intention. I’m disappointed Kendrick used that kind of tribalism to win. I thought he was better than that, personally 😕

[@benperez8424]

Its literally come down to Real Vs Fake the culture wars of morality vs success are starting to boil over

[@0uas]

People looking for double and triples in Drake's music. That is crazy to think about 😂

[@x0x0skiller2]

This comment just shows your not familiar with Drakes music

[@0uas]

@@x0x0skiller2 I've listened to all his albums, what he talks about doesn't stick with me.

[@King_Ced]

​@@0uasfair, everyone has their own opinions

[@corgitoergosum8400]

Drake's entendre game is very good though. But mainly when he's dissing.

[@tryme2245]

As a Kendrick fan, ive always known his ability to make music. Im very happy i dont have a new Kendrick album every year. I get to appreciate each piece of work.

[@Ghost19_]

At what cost? A reality check, and we defo need that esp at this current age.

[@bigstreetscholar11]

Drake isn't from the USA. He doesn't need to involve himself in our BS

[@infiniterer287]

He chose to, and suffered the consequences.

[@Scoobinho11]

His father is from memphis Tennessee. He is infact American

[@infiniterer287]

@@Scoobinho11 No he's not, your nationality is based on your birth.

[@Scoobinho11]

@@infiniterer287 he is also a US citizen. why is that?? due to his father's being American

[@infiniterer287]

@@Scoobinho11 he's a US citizen because he applied for citizenship 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@mikeymishima7167]

Lyrics are back Kendrick saved hip hop

[@alexanderjackson8389]

Lyrics are back when the only two lyricists doing well are Kendrick and Cole 😂

[@dominicharris5489]

to be honest, in response to Quest loves comments, DRAKE made it not about skill. Kendrick literally said "this aint personal its a friendly fade, you should keep it that way". BBL DRAKE wants to resort to bringing in family etc. K Dot is all about competition like he said in a few bars in the control verse. Then Dot said in Grahams that he fcked up soon as he mentioned his familys names. Its always about skill to Kendrick, friendly compo. just like MJ and Barkley being cool off the court but trying to take eachothers heads off on the court. Drake made the entire beef take an ugly turn. in the like that verse, there were no out of pocket bars just compo asserting himself as the best MC

[@johnathanelbert6880]

So Kendrick was wanting to run a “friendly fade” with someone he thought was a “pdf file”? Then that should tell you everything you need to know. He played on the public feelings this whole beef. Think

[@dominicharris5489]

@@johnathanelbert6880 the pdf file bars came after push ups fool... aka after Drake mentioned his wife. u need to pay attention to the strategy in the beef and also pay attention to the bars. youre digesting the beef from an emotional standpoint and your most likely a Drake fan

[@johnathanelbert6880]

@@dominicharris5489 who wants to run a “friendly fade with someone the actually think is a pdf file? Like seriously. That tells you Kendrick don’t even think he is he knew the public would eat it up he pandered this whole beef

[@dominicharris5489]

@@johnathanelbert6880 there is literally legit evidence that there is SOME truth to Drake showing interest in younger women, incase you havent noticed

[@johnathanelbert6880]

@@dominicharris5489 I understand that. It you at least have to admit kdot’s keeping it “friendly competition with someone he actually thinks is a pdf file is odd. It’s just hard to believe (for me). I wouldn’t and I’m sure you wouldn’t either. I would be like it’s F**k you I don’t even want to engage in a damn thing with someone like that. So you telling me if drake wouldn’t have mentioned his wife he would’ve been ok with their predator behavior being under wraps? All I’m saying is examine his motives it speaks volumes to what he actually thinks himself

[@purpthestinky5424]

WAS WAITING FOR YOU HIPHOPMADNESS

[@Bound4Earth]

The dust isn't settling though. Drake and J Cole just dropped tracks that might prove they have mental health issues from that beef. WTF is Grippy and how can we help J Cole recover. Drake needs to go on vacation for a year or more because that shit he was feat on was absolute dog shit. They might not recover, at least not anytime soon.

[@Tigercam24]

I think yall, including Drake, just didn't believe Kendrick when he KEPT saying MULTIPLE times "fuck the industry" and that he would basically go on a su!c!de mission just to end Drake

[@JonZam83]

Nikki can't stand up for him cause she's literally married to a SO and wayne told drake to not do the things hes being attacked for 😂😂😂

[@Toekneevill]

There’s no pearl clutching in rap battles

[@bobcat2938]

What's an example of someone pear clutching in rap battles? I'm trying to understand this better. Ty you kindly

[@alexanderjackson8389]

​@@bobcat2938 the reaction to Taylor Made freestyle

[@Mongrel.mob.internetchapter]

Kendrick vs the industry

[@powermiller855]

I'm tight bro forgot to name 6:16 in LA that joint was tuff af fr I loved that one

[@brianban110]

I'm Team Kendrick but Drake will be fine.

[@davidcici11Evolution]

Drake could retire tomorrow and he would be fine, but will his career be the same going forward...no

[@ankitsharma9852]

​@@davidcici11EvolutionBro Drake's career was going down already. I'm a Drake fan I always knew his career going down because every artist has a life span.. he has put out too much mediocre music. He's exhausted at this point

[@davidcici11Evolution]

@@ankitsharma9852 i actually agree with you. He is an aging star who collabs with artists 15 and 17 years younger than him. His last four albums were really bad. And it was only a matter of time before the reaper came at his door. However, Drake doesn't have to make music anymore if he doesn't want to. In fact, if I was him I would go away for 2 years and come back.

[@enemyskill4286]

@@davidcici11Evolution idk about that. Drake locked in with UMG for that multi deal so he really does need to make music. the question is what does that mean going forward

[@davidcici11Evolution]

@@enemyskill4286 yeah he has a contract that suggests he has to make like 2 albums a year, but I honestly would find a way to bypass that with UMG, he needs a breather from the music industry because he is getting wearing his welcome out. That would be my advice to Drake I am not even a Drake fan like that. I like his music but I don't like the actual actor and person.

[@terranceporter2644]

We leaving "Taylor Made" & "6:16 In L.A." out of the covdrsation??? 😂

[@chiefxvi403]

6:16 is 🔥🔥, that was a different Kendrick spitting

[@PlanetVz]

Crazy because those are at the top of my list

[@pressuremademanu]

This is what I don’t get, so Kendrick’s big bomb about Drake having a daughter was cap but we’re supposed to believe everything else he says while no one digs into him beating his wife while the security guard that was there made a video about it. Simply because ppl already chose Kendrick, there is no objectivity here. Ppl were tired of Drake before Kendrick and were already looking for reasons to get him outta here. The Boy will be fine.

[@Greekay]

Nah

[@shadowrealmentertainment666]

@@Greekay yes yes