KENYA'S GREAT DIVIDE: The genesis of tribalism and violence | Oginga Odinga vs Jomo Kenyatta

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[@Odhis_Mwafrika]

Now this is content. Good story and class for both now and generations to come. Thank you Enock for this piece🇰🇪💪

[@KenyanHistorian]

Thanks Stans. We really appreciate

[@abdilahibg8794]

Me too at Kitale Road..indeed the Orengo's were humble family and a very good neighbors.

[@PhilanMultiple]

Please never give up on your good work,,,Much love Kenyan Historian

[@Evemunga1]

Well researched. Good job Enock.

[@KenyanHistorian]

Thanks Laban. We really appreciate

[@princeofthenile958]

It has always been the foreign powers. How I wish our people could get the truth

[@Michaelkaydee]

The Kenyatta family and Kikuyu elite really ruined and wasted the great potential this great country would have achieved... then Moi and his disciples and successors added to it and the country is still struggling to get out from under the terrible weight of endemic corruption, graft and state capture.

[@bloggtalk5085]

BS.what did your tribe do for Kenya? I can't imagine what a country it would have been. Still a British colony maybe

[@vijananarutomovement7625]

Nothing would have been achieved, we're here and we deserve it,let's move on and correct the future

[@geoffreykamau1182]

If only the likes of Tom Mboya, Robert Ouko or JM Kariuki took over power right now we'd be advanced like South Korea or Malaysia countries the we attained independence the same period with but they're far economically than us

[@victorosong]

​@@vijananarutomovement7625You sound like an ignorant psychophant who believes that history is bullshit.

[@Yoteyawezekana]

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[@jamacahmed7172]

Luo people must unite against these dominant forces

[@georgeodhiambo598]

Why Luo people? The task of straightening crooked Kenya belongs to all. It cannot be that such responsibility should be placed on the back of one tribe. Wakenya wakitaka kuharibu Kenya yao, hiyo ni shauri yao.

[@mosegeminitv]

One of the best African historians great one

[@georgemukopi6429]

Wazungu wako na nguvu kweli,kufungia Jomo huko Lodwar in the 50's,it's 2022 but have never been to Kapenguria or Lodwar.

[@filbao8113]

Na kutuseparate

[@that_bloke_kiri]

5:39 listen to the question asked by the white journalist after Odingas answer, purely disruptive and dismissive, typical British divisive strategy

[@eleven5167]

The background music was too loud ... couldn't hear much of what the contributors were saying

[@kenyanmusic5479]

Thank You for this

[@ApolloOrao]

The core roots of our problem .

[@enolelasoitameno4094]

Now I know where the rain starts beating us

[@elvisngenoh7855]

Constitutional means

[@ivanoniko6830]

2022 we must vote in William Samoei Arap Ruto this one is a must no matter whatever reasons

[@Allan_O._Muthiga]

The folly of Kenyans. William Rutos is not known for achieving anything positive, other than grabbing land, and looting our resources. Why "must" Kenyans vote for him? Ile ujinga Iko Kenya ni mingi sana. If I became president I'd ensure he returns everything he has looted from the taxpayer and consider locking him up in Kamiti.

[@True-Kenyan]

@@Allan_O._Muthiga օռʟʏ a stʊքɨɖ ċaռ taʟҡ a sɦɨt ʟɨҡɛ tɦɨs ʊ aʀɛ taʟҡɨռɢ,ɨs ʀʊtօ աɛaʟtɦɨɛʀ tɦaռ ʀaɨʟa ʊɦʊʀʊ,ɢɛɖɨօռ aռɖ aʟօts,աɦʏ aʀɛ ʊ ʀɛaċtɨռɢ ʟɨҡɛ a ʄօօʟ.sօ tʊsɛʍɛ ҡաa ʍʄaռօ աա ɦaʊռa ʍaʟɨ,ʍtօtօ աaҡօ ɦaռa ɦaҡɨ ʏa ҡʊʍɨʟɨҡɨ ʍaʟɨ.🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ taʄaɖɦaʟɨ աaҡɛռʏa աaċɦɛռɨ ҡʊաa աaքʊʍɮaʋʊ աa aҡɨʟɨ.

[@kenyanroadman8350]

@@True-Kenyan no

[@ochiengjohn5348]

Why

[@True-Kenyan]

@@kenyanroadman8350 if one is wise enough in this country,he/she knows the real thieves in this country.tusindanganyane jameni.🤷‍♂️

[@johnmwaniki868]

How can I reach you?

[@KenyanHistorian]

[e-mail] or [e-mail]

[@judyjebaskwony505]

I have just subscribed to your channel through the Kenyan historian

[@thomasnjogu1593]

❤❤❤😂

[@masj8160]

we have come from far. Ethnicity in Kenya should just end. Its so sad to see young people engaging in tribalism

[@unlockwithjsr]

It can never end. Politics is always a divisive tool, anywhere in the world and in human history. The problem is when we obsess about it like in Kenya. I think we should aim to separate economics from the government, so that we can live normal lives and reduce political impact.

[@Joe-tr2vk]

@@unlockwithjsr Kenya would be a lot better without tribalism, politicians seem to be gaining from it thus don't bother fighting it off seriously. If there's one thing I always appreciate our founding father Mwalimu Nyerere here in Tanzania 🇹🇿 is breaking the barriers of tribalism and make us feel one. I pray God see Kenya through and overcome tribalism

[@ElvisNyakado]

This should be shown in schools.The root problem in this country started by Kenyatta the founding father of tribalism and nepotism

[@azraq350]

The foundation of Kenya's woes ....jommo Kenyatta. If only jaramogi odinga could not have considered waiting for Kenyatta. Jommo Kenyatta laid the spirit of corruption and tribalism.

[@Joe-tr2vk]

I would need a couple of books to acquire what you guys have put together into 25minutes narrative. Watching this in the comfort of my bed 🛌. Thank you a lot ,keep contents like these coming. Love from Tanzania 🇹🇿

[@wanjirukarago9308]

If you watch our History and where we are now you question why you were born a kenyan? 🤦🏿‍♀️

[@tiktak1448]

that ask baba yako na mama yako kwani ikizaliwa tulikuwa hapo kubaf

[@nicoledinga9948]

You're supposed to ask where we went wrong. We can not change where we're born but if we come together we can change the bad situation these politicians put us in

[@Brian-bo4bz]

Tafuta mubaba mzungu utoke

[@paulnyamuti6554]

Great Content. As a historian enthusiast, this is good stuff, in future documentaries link how our politics has affected our economy from the different regimes that have been there. keep up the good work.

[@that_bloke_kiri]

Men like Burudi Nabwera are the real griots of our times, human libraries, thank you for this extra feature on the great divide series, kindly keep them coming, we love them and what great production and research, hongera Kenyan historian.

[@jamacahmed7172]

Kikuyu and kallenjin dominated Kenya since 1963

[@Kenia-sn1cg]

The USA has dominated the world since 1945, are you going to challenge them next.

[@djdondullah8215]

@@Kenia-sn1cg Let's talk about Kenya. We're not Americans .

[@georgeodhiambo598]

@@Kenia-sn1cg Firstly your example is irrelevant because Kenya and US are very different. Secondly at global level, you are still wrong. US's global dominance is has been continuously challenged and currently China has overtaken US as the largest economy.

[@stevemenya3654]

First analysis I've heard from you and from the comments, Thank you Mr Enoch.... please release more such videos abd even featuring current political strategies played by our political class... bless 🙌

[@gadaffihemed2370]

Good work.Well researched.History of our country must be re-write

[@paulkarani559]

A deserved documentary for our country

[@roberttai4694]

I like such documentaries

[@KenyanHistorian]

Thanks Robert Tai. Be blessed.

[@njerikamau1640]

USA, ussr, China en Britain contributed massively in the downfall of our young Nation. Independence tulipata mentally wea still under colony

[@Emmanuel967-c2m]

This historical narration is quite epic. You can't afford not listen to.

[@fredkariuki3255]

That's a good piece of our history. Shukran for putting in great effort to make sense of that important past.

[@bellaolum9768]

Enoch Sikolia you're doing a great job for our future generations. Thank you!

[@t0n0k0]

Btwn, Capitalism and Communism. Kenya remained neutral, but thankfully capitalistic in practice. That's not political but cultural. So for those worried about CCP in Kenya. I think they have it, have it handled.

[@Allan_O._Muthiga]

Good job bro Sikolia. Perhaps you could take an interest in the roles played by foreign actors,mainly Britain and the United States in stifling the course of our freedom, and condemning us to corruption, bad governance and ethnic strife. The USSR and China as well. Looks like you have read Jaramogis Not Yet Uhuru. Check It out in case you haven't.

[@KenyanHistorian]

Haven't read it sir. Will check it out. I really appreciate your support

[@lucynyaga4006]

Nani anasema deep state hakuna

[@baruasafi5880]

I was a neighbor to James Osogo at Kilimani. He lived a simple life. His children too very down to earth. Not a corrupt person who amassed wealth during Kenyatta and Moi governments.

[@timtalk6285]

I also grew up in kilimani near the osogo residence and also went to the same school as his son at upper hill. His kids were so down to earth.

[@abdilahibg8794]

Me too at Kitale Road..indeed the Orengo's are humble family and very good neighbors.

[@godsfavorite8135]

Many children Osogo had

[@emmanuelkosgei5662]

James Osogo was my dad's teacher in early 60s

[@andrewkandie4800]

@@timtalk6285 uppa kipenzi💯

[@leafyorganicfarm]

Great work! Kindly brief us more often on the history of our Country.

[@KenyanHistorian]

Thanks. We are working on several

[@dedankimathi8306]

....KENYATTA was Founding father of corruption, Moran of tribalism, elder of nepotism chief of clandestine assassinations..

[@maishjunior4651]

When do you want independence for Kenya?? Today!! I love that 😢

[@KenyanHistorian]

He he

[@Joe-tr2vk]

It came from his heart, didn't have to think it was just spontaneous. Guess what would have been the heading if it were in this social network's era "Mzee Kenyatta destroys western journalist "😂

[@KenyanHistorian]

@@Joe-tr2vk The journalist expected a different answer.

[@Joe-tr2vk]

@@KenyanHistorian Definitely he was caught off guard

[@ApolloOrao]

The day that our eyes will open up and discover where we left our democracy we will go back to RUSSIA ...

[@mutuaj5940]

The Americans and the British are behind this mess we have In kenya..jomo was their man in the ground to make sure Kenya did not join the eastern block

[@djdondullah8215]

I've always known Kenyatta to be the founding father of tribalism, I didn't know Jaramogi was just as evil as Kenyatta. What an eye opening documentary.

[@bloggtalk5085]

Tribalism was with us even before Kenya existed.we didn't become Kenyans by choice. Be realistic

[@djdondullah8215]

@@bloggtalk5085 Any prove ?

[@jobondyxpeteronyango]

Just because the CIA said so.?

[@TheRonoTV2024]

Jaramogi was VERY evil. He planned two coups in 1971 and 1982. A devoted communist who would have introduced Red policies in Kenya which are very retrogressive.

[@christopherotieno8536]

You believe the CIA shit....is CIA a thing to be believed

[@meshackominde4679]

America has a hand in this..

[@kiwishbj1]

Ruto bure kabisa.!!!!!!!

[@Napolean45]

I see why the odingas have not ascended to power. They have always been viewed as pro socialist or Communism.

[@triplebeans4159]

Nothing to do with ideology they just we'rent smart politicians.

[@Napolean45]

@@triplebeans4159 again tribalism too can't allow them.

[@tiktak1448]

Kanu should be no where near the syllabus Hizi vitisho zenyu zitakoma Nani mnatisha

[@since956rian]

Another great piece 💯

[@mawira_]

So some of these things we're seeing and experiencing runs in the blood 😂

[@elvisngenoh7855]

Fine Documentary

[@geoffreybett3267]

I like that documentary

[@lennisoyagi]

Jk was very handsome

[@manchesterunitedakamrtread8317]

Oh boy now everything maked sensor

[@thebigbill2239]

I like your compilation and narratives,,on point Enock

[@Africa96tv]

So if Jaramogi Oginga would have agreed to be the first president...

[@bernardmathu4901]

Nani anaweza safisa huyo mzee mapua na mdomo? Wapi familia?

[@bellaolum9768]

Toa ujinga hapa

[@chrismugambi2121]

2 families.....we shall overcome 😂

[@deniseh_official]

A real Kenyan historian

[@KenyanHistorian]

Thanks and ahsante sana for your support Kiogora

[@tiktak1448]

If you bring kanu back we will beat you like burukenge You and your jogoo on a serious not kubaf

[@owinovicowinskie3712]

Karma is a shared experience..Tik Tok time ⌚ will tell.

[@bernardmathu4901]

Let's face it. Those who were alive during Kenyattas rule know what I am saying. If you are 60 and below keep quiet. Kenyatta did a good job even Nyerere said it. Kenya developed rapidly you could believe it. Of course when he grew old his friends took advantage of him and stole and killed using his name. But Kenyas real destruction began with Moi and it continues til today. However there was a short break with Kibaki. I didnt read this in books or depended on other people knowledge. I witnessed everything ! Kenya was so stable with Kenyatta that 24 years of Mois abuse couldn't bring it down. And children below 50 keep quite and seek info from people who saw it all. Books lie !

[@Kager02]

Kenyatta's betrayal of Oginga is the root cause of tribalism in Kenya.I fail to understand why you would betray the very person that demanded for your release and even relinquished his quest for presidency just for your release.It was the Limuru conference that messed this country. Moi tried uniting Kenya through Kanu and it was until the failed coup in 1982 masterminded by the likes of Charles Njonjo that annoyed him and brought out his ruthless side.It is worth commending that Moi willingly gave up power at a time when Africa was having strong dictators like Gaddafi and Mugabe.Moi's contribution to education,healthcare and infrastructure in this country is commendable.So I hereby disagree with you,Kenyatta did more harm to this country than Moi

[@Kager02]

Kenyatta's policy of awarding colonial lands to colonial chiefs is the root cause of squatters in Kenya and is what led to the rise of few African Kenyan billionaires at the expense of others

[@lusigijustus7274]

Kenyatta found a functioning government bequeathed to him by the colonialists. A civil service, armed forces and a generally functioning state. Before you blame others, who replaced people in positions of authority with his tribesmen? A kikuyu tribal elite literally took over land, judiciary and the executive. Now, the same elite was on record saying the presidential motorcade will never cross river chania. Now, for you to blame moi, regardless of your self confessed statement that anyone under 60,should not comment here, shows your jaundiced view of the situation at hand. You must be among those in this country who only think that certain people rule well coz they come from certain areas. Another person who rules using the same instruments but comes from another region is unfit to run the state. Big shame though.

[@birech003]

Good job Enock.

[@seifwaziri6307]

never disappoint

[@KenyanHistorian]

Thanks waziri. I appreciate your support

[@edgarselebwa4273]

This what we've been missing.

[@nelsonnelson1635]

Oginga should have done the necessary

[@gabbygabby2279]

The colonial narrative is that the colonialists have the right to go to other nations and illegally decide the amalgamations of different ethnic Nations by force. They plan such amalgamations as seeds of perpetual conflicts but radio the propaganda of African tribalism in order to blame the victims of their colonial crime. In Europe today, virtually every ethnic Nation is a sovereign country or a devolved polity with only two exceptions but in Africa too many ethnic Nations still remain trapped in the old colonial bundles making it virtually impossible to avoid conflicts. Each ethnic Nation in Africa must have its own sovereign country or devolved polity where the indigenous language is the prime official language. Then real integrity, independence and peace will commence. Until the old reckless abominable amalgamations caused by vandal colonialists are cancelled by woke Africans who reject the colonial creations, Africa would remain in an unnatural crisis of identity. Full stop.

[@filbao8113]

Yap

[@marehemudanielarapmoi6424]

Building a nation needs a viable economy and military....it is not as simple as you describe. None of our tribes can do this. Additionally immigration, intermarriage, have integrated many of these communities. There remain only few viable tribal states in Africa....maybe Somalia is the only one, and yet see it is currently split into Somalia, Jubbaland, Puntland, Galmudug, Somaliland etc....same people, same language same culture....yet they chose to split.

[@AfrocentricMindscape]

Interesting stuff.

[@Destinykenya2030]

Read between the lines

[@geoffreykapukha4389]

It's too correct.

[@elrhanta8729]

B😢

[@jesseowato3779]

Brilliant

[@harmonsunfelix1614]

Hey

[@harmonsunfelix1614]

Great

[@mutumakirimi5124]

Perfect

[@KenyanHistorian]

Thanks Mutuma. Nashukuru sana sana

[@samrenoirthequickflix2566]

This brings back the spirit of patriotism...❤

[@mrcapybara3579]

Patriotism inakufa Kenya. I hope to see the day patriotism will return to our motherland. I don't blame Kenyans anyway. Who would be patriotic when our own leaders are actively destroying everything?

[@bernardmathu4901]

Other than his insatiable appetite for land, Jomo was the lion of Kenya but those who followed apart from Kibaki were zebras and hyenas. They placed Kimathi, 'the guy who died fighting for freedom,and others) in the archives" as they grabbed everything.Kibaki tried to remember Kimathi by installing a statue for him but he didnt go far b4 interruption from Raila Odinga.

[@mwanafalsafa3613]

When was this and why did Raila interrupt him?

[@bernardmathu4901]

@@mwanafalsafa3613 How old are you ?

[@mwanafalsafa3613]

@@bernardmathu4901answering a question with a question?

[@bernardmathu4901]

Raila is never satisfied. He kept challenging Kibakis presidency til he given the seat of prime minister. Then he started undermining projects meant to develop the country. It's like he weakened Kibaki and really slowed him down.

[@mwanafalsafa3613]

@@bernardmathu4901 you see what you choose to see. Your bias won’t let you see past Kibaki electoral fraud, mercenaries scandal and all. Wewe bora una support Kibaki everything else doesn’t matter to you

[@MrMclimo]

We need candid documentary of evolution of luoland politics especially jaramogi, mboya, ouko, raila and Orengo rivalries. These people have been engineering their political downfalls to the extent of killing themselves then blame the other side.

[@snownfire]

You are a Kenyan equivalent of a holocaust denialist

[@Legendwill876]

This is y history should be looked at whenever politician speak, so that we know how to better our country together as 1.

[@filbao8113]

Yap

[@patrickmunyi2761]

Good stuff

[@baruasafi5880]

Harambee is an indian word. It's an indian idol.

[@chrismugambi2121]

Was known as 'Halumbe' amongst the Mijikenda before the Indians used it while building the UG-KE rail. Both Mijikenda & Indian Goddess mean the same thing though.... "Let's pull/push together"

[@mwanikimwaniki6801]

Swahili has endless words from Asia. Do you pick them out?

[@MIDLEMANDJ]

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[@tiktak1448]

Enyewe is harrambee in kamusi sanifu la hasha Hizi zilikuwa bangi za Johnstone kamau Mihadarati bunge haikuanza juzi

[@reinhardotieno5549]

What was Jaramogi going to look for in the East? Kiherehere ya Mjaluo

[@filbao8113]

Kuna shida kwenda east🤷‍♂️

[@Napolean45]

Is china not feeding you today?