Kerbal Space Program 2 - The Honest Truth

[@KerbalSpaceProgramOfficial]

Thanks for the thorough and honest video! We hate to disappoint you, and we're diligently listening. Fixes coming soon.

[@TheGamegurusChannel]

I'm pulling for you guys, but we really, really, need the game to have better performance

[@ericgolightly8450]

I'm glad you saw this video, KSP2 will be a great game.

[@casualology.]

🥳

[@Carnasa]

Glad to hear that! And I eagerly await them, cannot wait to make KSP2 - The turnaround of the century video :D

[@Screeno1993]

This shows care that even a video like this gets a comment from the official channel. I want ksp2 to be the best ksp there possibly could be. There's just a lot to do yet before I'd prefer to play 2 over the original

[@Jo_Rogan]

i got so excited when they said #1 priority was killing the kraken. and they def killed the kraken and summoned Poseidon himself

[@TarisSinclair]

@RBCO It grew up and is a Level 6 kaiju now.

[@GundamReviver]

The kraken got Rita repulsa'd

[@bilalstudent6572]

Not even poseidon, cthulu

[@effervescentrelief]

They brought out the Kraken's angry dad named Apollo. It's a Kraken, just must angrier.

[@Codster121]

I landed the KSC on Minmus as it followed my craft or kerbal. (actually i think it followed the camera.) Ah... trying to land on Minmus whilst avoiding hitting the KSC at the same time is such "fun" especially since it had collision, i had to reload because i crashed into the KSC at least once, and was greeted by the same KSC until i restarted my game... and loaded a manual save.

[@redderthanmisty6762]

If the game was bad today, just imagine what a hell-scape it would've been if it had released on time in 2020.

[@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi]

by now it would probably be a workable game. I just wonder wth they were working on for 5 years?

[@unhommequicourt]

@@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi my guess is they were working on multiplayer with an unexperienced team.

[@Chris-xo2rq]

They had nothing in 2020, that or they've done nothing since. I've been a software and firmware engineer for 15 years. I don't know what they hell they are doing over there... I lost all of my save data today, all of my saved crafts, saved games, and the campaign itself. This is a BASIC mistake, and it causes a CRITICAL problem. They are selling this game for $50 with file corruption bugs... it's unacceptable, in any form of programming today. Basic serialization and deserialization is rote code at this point, any first year comp-sci student should be able to write it.

[@shibity]

Totally different game, they rebuilt from scratch if I'm remembering correctly. That's why it's barebones despite 2 years.

[@firebush1343]

Way better place than ksp1 was when it was in EA.

[@tyttuut]

I think the defining moment for my first day of KSP2 was the "revert to VAB" button for a vehicle launched straight from the pad *reverting the station I painstakingly flew to Laythe.*

[@Chris-xo2rq]

Consider yourself lucky you got anything to Laythe. I finally managed to land on Mun after 3 game-breaking bugs required me to restart from scratch. Most recently I lost 10 hours of progress. All my craft files, save games, even the campaign itself, all gone. The crafts that come with the game are gone as well, even after starting a new campaign when I go to load a craft in the VAB I get an empty list. The first game-breaking bug was when my in-flight save games would load me INTO a meteor with my engines at full thrust... all of the auto-saves and manual saves did this, had to restart the flight. I have ZERO faith that I can put effort in to getting anywhere in the Kerban system (other than mun maybe) without it being a huge waste of time. Steam won't issue a refund despite explaining all this because it took longer than 2 hours to happen...

[@MaticTheProto]

@@Chris-xo2rq in 10 hours I had to make 4 new campaigns due to game breaking bugs

[@imprudentpilot9]

My theory as to why this game released in such a poor state is that the investors were threatening to stop supporting the project unless they started getting a return on their investments, so T2 forced Intercept to push it out the door at the cost of some reputation. It happens a lot more than you’d think.

[@michaelsedor6807]

The game didn’t “release”. It is an Early Access game.

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

​@@michaelsedor6807 If you're playing it, and paying for it, it released Early Acces is just an excuse companies use to do the bare minimum

[@michaelsedor6807]

@@jesusramirezromo2037 Where should I send your trophy? You just won the award for “Dumbest Take on the Internet”.

[@michaelsedor6807]

@@ValouroverFear I think perhaps some of you haven’t been around long enough to remember the first KSP hit early access as a flat Earth/Kerbin with zero other planets. And look at it now. It grew and succeeded despite the whiners.

[@JMPenn]

@@michaelsedor6807 Yes, it also cost about $10 when it was released in early access, not $49.99

[@blackknight9156]

The worst thing is not even autostrut. In KSP 2 the rockets literally flop at connection points as if they are made of spaghetti. There is a difference between a wobbly rocket (KSP 1) and an unusable spaghetti monster(KSP 2). Struts feel pointless.

[@adora_was_taken]

autostrut was always a crutch. they should really look into welding part stacks together or something

[@MrMayo-og9rj]

true - i don’t have the game because my computer can’t even begin to run it lol, though i know the devs will eventually add back auto strut and hopefully optimize the game much better

[@blackknight9156]

@@adora_was_taken I would be fine without it if vessels without it that were more than two parts, but very simple rockets should not be spiraling out of control as if they are 60 meters tall with a .625 fuselage. In the current state of KSP 2 struts don't even work.

[@silmarian]

I really hope Kerbal Joint Reinforcement gets ported over soon, it’s the only way this game will be playable.

[@LRaufKadcon]

I somehow have the feeling that intercept implemented this wobble-galore on purpose to make the game feel similar to the original - not understanding that nobody saw it as a funny feature but just as a painful bug. I actually became suspicious of this during the second to last trailer where you can see it with the sideboosters as soon as the rocket launches

[@veeandness]

People who claim "Early access, wait until it's updated" Have no concept of how badly a first impression can influence a game's playerbase

[@ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo]

Or how long EA programs can last.

[@BestBFG]

This is absolutely true, first impressions are a killer. While the original studio and original game launched in a similar (probably worse) state, it will push away newer players or people who got used to the polish of the first game.

[@Ronaldo-vs3uh]

Hopefully they can pull a "No mans sky". But rn...all of the hype i had for the game is gone

[@landboat1]

I'm just saying he did get a early build of it so kind expected Edit:nvm I just watched the beardy penguin's video on KSP 2. It's still a buggy mess

[@gloverelaxis]

@@ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo Or how many "early" access games **never** fix their most significant issues, even after 5+ years

[@nathonizamboni875]

After playing 5 hours today, I can say I didn't run into nearly as many bugs as you did. Game didn't crash or softlock once. Everything you said about part manager and the trajectories is true. Also any time I opened a faring my velocity would change randomly, often putting me in a terrible orbit that would require 200-2000 delta v to fix. I haven't tried to dock anything, and none of my crafts were huge, so idk about the kracken.

[@familiarhuman]

i fired a rapier in closed mode and was immediately transported into lightspeed instantly. engine clearly not ironed out at a core level.

[@Chris-xo2rq]

Give it time... I just lost 10 hours of progress. All my craft files, save games, even the campaign itself, all gone. The crafts that come with the game are gone as well, even after starting a new campaign when I go to load a craft in the VAB I get an empty list. This is the SECOND game breaking bug I've encountered on the first day. The first was when my in-flight save games would load me INTO a meteor with my engines at full thrust... all of the auto-saves and manual saves did this, had to restart the flight. I have ZERO faith that I can put effort in to getting anywhere in the Kerban system (other than mun maybe) without it being a huge waste of time. Steam won't issue a refund despite explaining all this because it took longer than 2 hours to happen...

[@xxXXPurifiedSpiritfallXXxx]

@@Chris-xo2rq Lol, should've known what you were getting into with the clearly visible "early access" label on the Steam page and the variety of unjust hate on the internet.

[@Chris-xo2rq]

@@xxXXPurifiedSpiritfallXXxx I'm 40 years old and I've been PC gaming since I was 8, I'm also a software engineer. This is NOT what "early access" is supposed to be... this is a public beta AT BEST. We are paying them to beta test their software. It's outrageous they would charge $50 for this and call it "early access"... If they were honest they would have called this crowd-funding for access to beta versions of the software.

[@salticus]

As soon as I saw that the new part manager replaced the right click menu, I suspected that it would make people go insane. I really hope they add the right click menu back in, in addition to the part manager. Together they could work really well. I really hope they get this game into a playable state (In terms of gameplay, bugs and, most importantly to me, performance), because it could be really good.

[@bluenightfury4365]

It is driving me nuts for sure when Im playing the game, gets in my way, way more than the original menu.

[@graxx478]

I like the part manager for finding parts that aren’t visible, it has its uses. Give me both.

[@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi]

yeah why re invent the wheel with the views and stuff? All they did was alienate the current fan base.

[@daskampffredchen]

Simple solution Right Click once for Part Info Right Click again for part manager

[@Spinikar]

THIS! It so annoying.

[@cook1ezz]

Personally, I highly HIGHLY prefer KSP 1's UI. It just seems FAR more readable and the stuff you need to read at a glance is distinct and easy to read. In KSP 2, a lot of the UI feels samey and hard to read quickly at a glance. As you said, height rounding above 100km, no TWR, etc. For some reason, the UI also feels more cluttered now. Maybe it's just familiarity, but I don't think that's it. I think the new UI has potential and could end up being very sleek, but it needs a lot of tweaks to me.

[@Conmonman]

I think part of the issue is familiarity. This UI is a lot more accessible for new players imo. So much more information is there (specific numbers of resources per staging for example) that was either hidden behind a menu or wouldn't show up without context (being in use or right clicking). For a veteran player whose been on the wiki or youtube videos a lot of that information is disseminated already. Examples would be like: SAS Trackball is more readable and clear. Your ship points to the one you select. I didn't use SAS auto for pro/retrograde in KSP for the longest time, because I didn't realize what those buttons were at all. Everything is contained in boxes. While they take more space and look a little uglier, it is very easy to tell at a glance what you are looking at and see all the relevant information. Again in KSP1, a lot of that info would be behind menus or wouldn't pop up unless in use. It's more readable too, as things are clearly separated out rather then a mass of drop-down menus that look the same. (The part manager would be a good example except they then immediately made it list every part which is insane) The APP toolbar looks so much cleaner and seems like it lends itself better to play then the "put everything and then scroll" toolbar we have now. Not a personal fan of the aesthetic but in general it seems like this UI is a lot more new-player friendly then KSP 1 was (especially at release pre-delta V, etc.)

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

Yeah KS1 UI, SAS and flight conentrols sesttivity with that navball cluster I've been asking for that for a dacade.

[@anthonyc5039]

The UI in ksp2 made me physically ill today. Like it’s utterly awful.

[@m1abrams1776]

@@Conmonman a lot of info was removed from the vab like stage twr, burn time, isp, etc

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

​@@Conmonman Its not accessible to new players, its cluttering the screen and in a tiny font, It's an info dump

[@mulzi4425]

The gaming industry in general is going downhill. They want the consumer/user to pay $50 for the honor to beta test and QA their product. Most software vendors hire/pay people to QA their product. The gaming industry is kinda shady that way. All under the label 'Early Access' of course.

[@MDE_never_dies]

It's in a sorry state. We've left the golden age of gaming.

[@michaelmonstar4276]

"tEh GaMiNg InDuStRy!"

[@michaelmonstar4276]

@@MDE_never_dies - Not really: You're just spoiled and looking in the wrong places.

[@YakobtoshiNakamoto]

100% agree. Also I'm a QA engineer and the pay for QA engineers at game companies is shockingly bad. In some cases it can be as low as 50% of the current market value. Devs are also in the same boat.

[@Lexyvil]

Early Access should be about needing help finding easy to miss bugs, not bugs that always happen in our faces. It appears they haven't tested their own game--that, or the UI is new and a day old.

[@CromemcoZ2]

Early Access was originally supposed to be about needing help getting FUNDING to finish your game. KSP1 was the first big Early Access success story, IIRC. This publisher has deep pockets and doesn't need our money. Getting help finding bugs is what Open Betas are for (and Early Access includes that as well, as you said). But this isn't remotely close to beta state yet. It's alpha code, meaning an incomplete and untuned prototype.

[@FrostbitexP]

Some bugs as trajectory not showing up when entering a new SOI could be a recent bug they havent managed to fix. Theres no way I could beleive its a long term issue they just didnt bother with.

[@Teh_Random_Canadian]

​@@CromemcoZ2 Not to mention... there is NOTHING new! No new planets, moons, ships, or anything really. Just a terribly broken remake of KSP 1. This feels like a scam at this point TBH.

[@arakui]

@@FrostbitexP except it was present at the esa conference over 2 weeks ago. for a bug so obvious, so common and so serious they should have fixed it immediately, but they didn't. why? who can say.

[@Keys879]

@@Teh_Random_Canadian It's literally a crime in my opinion. A con, a scam. They did nothing that mods haven't already done and they're trying to sell it for $50. People should demand refunds until they deliver on what they promised.

[@brushi9448]

Hope the developers would see this video and actually fix the problems stated in the video while they continue to develop the game!

[@luckyoma0]

they will hopefully

[@BSJuliaMagna]

Ironically developers have the least say in software development. Releasing broken unfinished shit for full price and then call it early access is some clown executive decision

[@ScaledAnd1cy]

I mean a month ago when they had the youtubers come in and playtest they saw many of these issues. Surprised their still not fixed.

[@agentald3143]

The devs mentioned that this will be early access, and to expect low fps, multiple bugs. Check the roadmap they have

[@Shirobon.]

​@@ScaledAnd1cyactually they are fixed....

[@joespeed1952]

If they re-introduced the mentioned fixes in this video, and gave players the option of using a KSP1 style UI, the game would be much better. As of now, I'll wait patiently and spend my time playing KSP1.

[@sloo6425]

Same here, I was an early adopter in KSP 1.

[@dashs2597]

I’m so glad that someone w a larger viewer base posted this. Everyone’s talking about how great it is, but my first couple hours playing left a sour taste in my mouth. I’m confident that they’ll fix these crucial bugs rather soon tho, now that they’ve got a bunch of angry customers.

[@Keys879]

It's terrible. They're all just so blown up on hype. But they would be better to go back to KSP1 with a ton of mods and get a much better experience. This release was a total failure. It really looks bad on Private Division / Intercept Games.

[@willson7360]

We can clearly see that most of these issues could have been ironed out prior EA, and the nerve that these guys are charging AAA price for a game with VERY limited's functionality is bizarre

[@laius6047]

Thats why I'm not buying it to be honest. If it was 15eur I would. But now since it has all these bugs, and me being adult and family man I won't be getting it sadly. Times change

[@abc98114]

No one should buy this game for $50. It’s a slap in the face and a huge disrespect to their loyal fans.

[@kfenstymiller]

@@abc98114 No, I actually have played ksp 1 for years and knew this release was not going to be up to the standards of ksp 1 ON EA release. I bought the game to support a company that i KNOW will follow through with updates, fixes, and more content. They've already done it for KSP1 for over a decade. So no, the only dumb people here are the ones who haven't been a part of the community and just decided to hop on a hype train thinking EA for KSP2 was going to be a "finished product"

[@jeb_kerm1671]

This was most likely private division’s doing, not Intercept. The game’s been delayed by over three years, you think a huge publisher would let another month go by without a product, without any returns on their investment? Yeah, no chance. PD likely told Intercept to send out an EA release without any regard for the build’s stability nor quality. Someone higher up couldn’t wait, and now we have this. Sad, but probably not all the developers’ faults

[@klapaucius7339]

I did a save in flight before landing. When I loaded it again, the plane had no wings and the tail was several metres behind the craft. On a later load after landing, the wings just fell off.

[@nomotif8863]

The wings fell off you say? That's not very typical isn't it?

[@miguelpadeiro762]

Did you remember to load the wings?

[@charlesleckow1651]

Anyone else notice that REACTION WHEELS can change a craft’s orbit? The acceleration not only defies physics, but is so drastic that I’ve given up on orbital rendezvous (an intercept of 100m distance and 10m/s becomes 2km and 100m/s simply by leaving SAS on) Also, when undocking a docking port, it immediately re-docks without enough time to fire rcs thrusters. I wouldn’t mind if the game’s release was pushed back until these bugs were fixed, as any craft in the trailers that requires orbital assembly is simply impossible to create.

[@EpicMiniMeatwad]

Funny, this bug was in the first releases of KSP 1, I think.

[@agsystems8220]

The really worrying thing about that is that it means that forces that are external (such as engines) are not tracked separately from internal forces. In KSP1, (and just about every other space game built by people who know what they are doing), total vessel momentum is tracked separately from local physics. Phantom forces are almost impossible to avoid, and even miniscule forces throw off space games by massive amounts, so usually you pin the CoG of the vessel to a description that is entirely shielded from phantom forces. Phantom forces occur, but the vessel is forced back onto the correct orbit. Forces able to affect orbits have to do so explicitly (kraken drives with docking adaptors are still possible because docking adaptors do affect orbits), which means that forces arising from interactions between parts cannot throw off orbits, and specifically torques cannot throw off orbits. The reason this is so concerning is that this is an example of a class of bug that should be impossible, if the game architecture were smart. It isn't that they have got this far and not fixed it, it is that they have built the whole game on a system where it is possible at all, because that is not easy to change. They already have more technical debt that KSP1.

[@gloverelaxis]

@@agsystems8220 hit the nail on the head. this is something deeply fundamental to the game, and they have *completely* fucked it up in a way that utterly reeks of incompetence or mismanagement

[@agsystems8220]

@@gloverelaxis I wouldn't go that far. I think they underestimated how good the systems of KSP1 were, and how difficult it would be to match, let alone improve upon them. The indie nature of it makes it look like something simple, when it is really not. KSP2 looks like it was made by a team of experienced Unity devs who had built games from off the shelf components, with some tweaking. They thought they could build Kerbal 2 this way. That's why the detail design, such as the particles, models, materials, and the sound, are fantastic. For most unity games, the detail design is the hard bit, and what 'makes' the game, so this is an understandable error.

[@traviscecil3903]

Sadly, many of these are why I will be sticking with KSP1 for the foreseeable future. I still have very high hopes for the end product. But this was way too early for even an early release candidate.

[@davo1188]

Not to mention expensive

[@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi]

Dude theyve had more than enough time, yet they still managed to bloat it to a level thats riddculous for most players to run and make it look better than ksp 1. There are parts i like but doing something stupid like changing basic view controls etc is like meh screw the existing just do whatever.

[@Hartwig870]

I'm buying it years later, during a Steam sale.

[@FrostbitexP]

@@Hartwig870 I mean you say that, but if by by chance this fall/winter most major bugs are fixed and theyre about to release colonies/orbital construction and automatic resource gather routes? Id bet you will by it well before multiple years later lol.

[@arakui]

@@FrostbitexP chances are higher than it's dropped by take 2 before that happens

[@aaronvessels]

I hope the devs see this video. They need to spend the next month getting the framerates tripled and the quality of life up to a level with kerbal space program 1.

[@samcarpenter_]

I think, realistically, getting the UI/QOL up to KSP1 levels could take a year. There will be resistance especially towards going back to the old style Part Action WIndows.

[@BigIronEnjoyer]

Really they need to get up to the level of Juno: New Origins (previously Simple Rockets 2). That game does a whole lot of things better than both KSP1 or KSP2 in a whole lot of ways, especially on the things the video complains about. They're lucky most people haven't tried that game yet, they're in danger of having their lunch eaten.

[@devillexxgaming3921]

Exactly i wanted to play this game but seeing how bad the frame where on beefy machines it just turned me down from it .. i dont wanna spend 900 dollars on upgrades just to play a single game

[@lazerwater6137]

pretty sure that's there plan anyways

[@lilkris3008]

@@devillexxgaming3921 hey I went and built my first pc just so I could play star citizen when it came out… in 2016

[@xd-pk7bb]

One of the main promises after the announcement of KSP2 was larger scale. Not just interstellar travel, but larger ships and more parts, all while keeping performance stable. Its why the games advertisement always showed huge space colonies, giant space stations and generation ships. This expectation wasn’t just fostered through visual marketing material, but explicitly stated in developer interviews. The games foundation is in such a rough state. If this is their work after three years of delays, why should anyone believe they are capable of developing such a sequel? I don’t think they are capable.

[@darkdrewmo]

Middle mouse move is pretty much industry standard for all CAD software: Fusion 360, Blender, Adobe suite, etc. Just my FYI on it. Definitely sounds like there should be a sensitivity setting though.

[@styleisaweapon]

When cad software decided on it, mice actually had middle buttons instead of the always problematic wheelbuttoncombostiens.

[@_jelle]

7:22 it's also really weird that velocity is rounded to integers, but it still displays a .0 decimal

[@NeoMorphUK]

FYI you can get visuals of the planets in the tracking station. KSP1 had REALLY bendy rockets in early access. That was why Kerbal Joint Reinforcement was an essential mod back then. I had a rocket turn into a banana IN ORBIT in KSP1.

[@OCinneide]

I remember having a rocket with just two fuel tanks and it bending over. I think it was because I had a battery and a command module, solar panels and a parachute on top.

[@sappyhamster]

Building a space station would also, given enough modules, result in a wobbly mess… I distinctly remember docking a module to my first space station and quickly going back to tracking menu to reset physics. It’d eventually become wobbly again. Accidentally pushing T, of course, killed many space stations. Framerates were terrible as well, though I struggle to recall what GPU I had at that point, might’ve been 780Ti, though my recollection suggests I got into KSP 1 earlier than that. You might expect KSP 2 to avoid pitfalls of KSP 1 early access, but… why tho? Without knowing how much of KSP 1 DNA (by that I mean codebase, physics logic in particular might or might not be transferrable) is in the game, it’s hard to predict anything. It seems that the devs weren’t lying and it might be quite some time before the game’s in a playable state. It’s fine though. As long as it gets there.

[@OCinneide]

@@sappyhamster It seems like the "reshuffle" of the game dev company might have had a bigger affect on the game than previously thought.

[@sappyhamster]

@@OCinneide Eh Wouldn’t put past corporate overlords at taketwo to meddle and push for more aggressive timelines. Might get some insights from ex-Star Theory devs into that later down the road.

[@OCinneide]

@@sappyhamster They did just destroy the OG dev company and then offer to rehire them at a lower wage. Couldn't have helped the game development too much, since the "good" devs could probably find work elsewhere while the "bad" devs might take a "bad" deal.

[@dansiegel995]

Part Manager and TWR is also in my top 5 issues. As well, the save/file management disasters, fuel flow issues between stages with cross fuel disabled being violated, and LACK OF ORBITAL PARAMETERS like inc, lan, period, closest approach, etc.

[@shibity]

Although I wish the game was more fleshed out at this point after the multi-year delay. I will say it's important to remember that the new development MO for games is to release a foundation and build on top of that for a decade. Given the roadmap and plans, I still believe this will be a great game... in 3+ years.

[@shuinshi8110]

Thank you for saying it as it is. I feel like too many people are trying to sugarcoat it, but as of right now, at that price, people shouldn't buy this game. I hope the developers hear the community and make this game worth the buy. I really want them to succeed and will be the first in line to buy it once they've done it. Godspeed KSP2.

[@Keys879]

And they're saying the price will go up once it is out of Early Release. Literally pointing a 12ga. at their feet. It's building up to be quite the catastrophic spectacle.

[@michaeljamieson3582]

I’ve been playing KSP on and off since 0.4. The biggest advantage that game had is that it didn’t have the pressure of having to be amazing from day 1, we just loved it flaws and all because there was nothing else like it. KSP 2 has significantly more expectation to do everything better from the get go, the fact they are charging near-on full price for early access lifts that expectation even higher. Bare minimum there should have been more work on the performance efficiencies, the game runs like shit at the moment.

[@Keys879]

They literally could have just kept the original engine, added new planets, changed the textures, new models, and re-worked the UI and we could have had a satisfying 'sequel' in 2020. But Five years after development began and we're left with an eye watering catastrophe. It's incredible. I don't even think No Man's Sky did this bad upon release. Hopefully there's just as good of a comeback story here.

[@Jazzyo7]

2:16 Literally my favorite addition in KSP 2 is the sounds and engines. Scrolling all the way out from your rocket and hearing the distant cracking and popping is so awesome. Just wish I could do it with a framerate higher than 15 fps. Another thing I love to is the music changing along with your throttle. Hearing the music spike up after slamming throttle to full when in orbit is so awesome. 7:40 one thing that is missing from the UI for me personally is something that was in the bottom left. Being able to move your maneuver node and fine tune it using the small window in the bottom left was so helpful. Also when you brought up Zomboid being in early access, to be fair, the game is like 10 years old at this point lol. Used to watch a youtuber called Eckyman play it back then.

[@olegpetrovic]

17:04 I have to add something here The game needs to be HEAVILY optimized, especially on the GPU side Considering the fact that the game's goal was to make space MORE accessible, i didn't really expect hacking into a NASA supercomputer would be a prerequisite for downloading My GTX 1650 Ti can run KSP 1 with mods that make it look possibly even better than KSP 2 without a problem, yet it qualifies BELOW the minimum requirements of KSP 2 My friend did this on an RTX 4080 and he got like 15 fps when playing on high quality during launch (specifically near the cloud layer) YOU SHOULDN'T REQUIRE A SUPERCOMPUTER TO RUN KSP 2!

[@Wilolino]

I have a 3080 and a 1440p monitor and when i tried looking at Kerbin with a small orbital craft gpu usage maxed out at 99% with 52 fps. I have the recommended specs and i still had to lower my settings to get a stable 60 fps IN ORBIT.

[@sambal777]

I have a little older setup and have perfect frames when looking at the sky when launching. If i look back at kerbin or any other body though the fps grinds down to single digits.

[@Baccardi83]

I have 3080 and played ib 4k ..everything was relatively ok for me. Not great but ok.

[@mikicerise6250]

Geez. They should be fully simulating General Relativity with that kind of performance!

[@lostree1981]

It should be illegal for developers to charge full price for a barebones early access game that is not the full release version. There needs to be legislation brought in for it. It needs to be percentage based, and a time limit placed on early access stage. The game is 30% complete, ok the price is 30% of the final retail value until it's released. You should be legally obligated to release a concrete roadmap of ten stages of development. If you are at stage 4, you can charge the maximum of 40% of final retail value. Stage 1 should be legally required to have a playable game that has saving/loading functions working, a minimum frame rate target that is consistent, with at least one functioning gameloop for players to engage with. Not only would it encourage developers to get the game done properly, it would force them to release a much higher quality minimum viable product, and move to release much more quickly and not sit in early access for years. "you can't give out to us, we put early access in the title" needs to go, and it needs to go since ten years ago.

[@chrisgaming9567]

This is a perfect idea

[@quaker5906]

I think the biggest cause of the issues is the lack of game testing from people like the general public. Trying out crazy ideas like building an inverted rocket wasn't on their minds. At the very least this is early access, and I was expecting it to be kinda bad in general, I just didn't expect to quite this degree.

[@Chris-xo2rq]

Uhh... the bugs are not limited to "crazy ideas". I just lost 10 hours of progress. All my craft files, save games, even the campaign itself, all gone. The crafts that come with the game are gone as well, even after starting a new campaign when I go to load a craft in the VAB I get an empty list. The stock craft files are apparently corrupted or gone, probably to reinstall to get them back (I never even loaded them, I don't use them, just saying how ridiculous this is). That was my third game-breaking bug, the first was when my in-flight save games would load me INTO a meteor with my engines at full thrust... all of the auto-saves and manual saves did this, had to restart the flight. I have ZERO faith that I can put effort in to getting anywhere in the Kerban system (other than mun maybe) without it being a huge waste of time. Steam won't issue a refund despite explaining all this because it took longer than 2 hours to happen...

[@Teh_Random_Canadian]

​@@Chris-xo2rq Refunds should be given without question, this game is so incredibly broken it is a scam, not early access

[@kfenstymiller]

@@Teh_Random_Canadian If this game is a scam, then ksp1 why wasn't ksp1? Game released with just kerbin, and just as many bugs. Is it just because you expected it to be perfect even though it was clearly identified as early access, ya know, like the previous game? Do you have a brain? Did you read the release roadmap? Do you realize this game is going to take years to update? I did, and I bought it knowing that full well I am looking forward to the next decade of ksp 2 updates because that's my PASSION and i have a thing called PATIENCE.

[@Teh_Random_Canadian]

@@kfenstymiller KSP 1 was a brand new game that was completely original, also didnt have a 65$ price tag.... this is a remake with nothing new and basically unplayable with the amount of bugs for almost a full priced game... use your head.

[@kfenstymiller]

@@Teh_Random_Canadian was completely original with barebones editing, barebone parts, and barebone flight controls. This game may have less, and i expected that, but it's also vastly different in terms of capability. Clearly there's lacking content but any long time kerbal fan would not be surprised, myself included. The 50$ price tag (not 65) is an option that I was willing to pay because I knew from this company's track record that they will supply us with updates, patches, fixes, and improvements, regardless of how long it takes. They're a small team with a good focus, im not in anyway floored by the buggy release. If I get tired of the bugs, I'll just swap to ksp 1. It's not a big deal. So far I've just been limit testing where I can get to, and figuring out some ways around certain bugs.

[@cas1652]

I can understand bugs and missing features. That's expected and can be fixed. It's the wobbly rockets that really make me lose hope. This is both a core functionality and also THE quintessential problem from the first game. For it to be worse now than it ever was is a really, really worrying sign wrt to dev priorities and maybe even what the new engine is capable of.

[@whoisthatkidd2212]

The problem was fixed in the first game by the Kerbal Joint Reinforcement mod. I dont know why its not a core part of the second game considering that KJR was one of those must-have mods.

[@patrickw6628]

So true...Looks as if it will be years from now until this could work. Good that I thought about looking at youtube before hitting the buy button in my excitement!

[@SkippytheHippie4994]

I like the part menu for a vessel, but not when you click on the part. There should be just a hotkey to open the menu for the active vessel, then when you click the part in the menu it opens the window for the part as if you'd clicked on it. Or you can just go click on the part manually to open its menu.

[@Carnasa]

I actually think this would be amazing, sort of like the best of both worlds!

[@EssenceOfKapok]

It's playable and enjoyable if you only want to take a 20 part rocket to the Mun and back. Actually never mind I just quickloaded and my wings fell off

[@slickdiggler1197]

$50 for an early access game is disappointing in itself.

[@bushmonster1702]

It is a bit high. I was expecting $30 at most for early access.

[@Destroyer_V0]

*Cue arguments of currency conversion* 77 aud.

[@Augustus087]

Thank you SO MUCH for your comments and honest feedback, Carnasa =) There should be an option in the game setup to use the old UI. Seriously. They already have the code for it. Please put it in and give us the option. Variety is the spice of life. =)

[@familiarhuman]

having worked with the unity engine extensively, its not that easy, unfortunately. what is an issue is they spent too much time on UI and too little time on the core engine.

[@Augustus087]

@@familiarhuman I appreciate your comment, especially for a novice like myself. I hope they can do it, just will have to wait for it in the future.

[@michaell1824]

@@familiarhuman You are absolutely right, game mechanics should be the number one priority for such a game. Its the factor which holds players

[@mikicerise6250]

@@familiarhuman I have to wonder. The thing is a bit *too* similar to the original KSP. It really does seem like whatever they were planning to do originally, they just tossed it and built off the old codebase. 😛

[@Hinterhof-qx5ql]

At this point I'm wondering if we even need KSP 2. Even if everything worked fine, how much of an upgrade would it really be? KSP 2 felt like a scam when it got announced and delayed, and it doesn't appear a lot better today.

[@bushmonster1702]

Easy with the scam accusations 😂

[@cpthornman]

@@bushmonster1702 Well so far all the scam boxes have been checked.

[@maccollo]

One my biggest gripe that isn't the unacceptably bad performance is the UI. I feel it's extremely bloated and uses space very inefficiently compared to KSP 1. It feels like I am reading a text file zoomed in 200%. At the same time, it is harder to read some of UI text because of the terrible font design. The pixel art font just blurs into a mush when it's downscaled. Also, I feel the altitude number being just another digital number on the navball is a bad design decision, specifically for new players who may not know anything about space or how to launch rockets. I mean think about it. In KSP 1, why is the altitude meter in particular this gigantic number with a very fancy and visually stimulating scrolling animation that also communicates rate of change? It's because it is THE most important number for someone who just plopped their first rocket on the launch pad. Think about it from the perspective of a new player who knows nothing of spaceflight and doesn't want to read a bunch of text to get started playing the game. Spaceflight is confusing, but big number go up good! Big number go up faster better! This is clearly communicated to the player without telling them anything. That is why it being just another digital number on the navball is bad.

[@Carnasa]

Just had to check, damn man its the actual Maccollo! You have some amazing videos man. I agree with you on the altimeter, that definitely could do with being changed, its really not the best right now, but I'm fairly sure now we have the UI that's likely to be set in stone, but we can see. Wonder how long it will be before someone mods the old UI in?

[@exilestudios9546]

I told people that the game being bought out by a AAA studio would be a disaster and no one believed me but here we are with a $50 alpha build of a game with less features than it's predecessor. I am done with AAA gaming at this point

[@Thedarkwaterbun]

Key word: alpha

[@thelizard556]

​@@Thedarkwaterbun why have it cost money for an alpha? Just release a test build for the players to test for them, the community will be better at experimenting everytime.

[@Thedarkwaterbun]

@@thelizard556 I’m defending the developers, not the company. Take two is worth 6 billion dollars it should be cheaper. A company is a company though.

[@thelizard556]

@@Thedarkwaterbun yes, its also a company that put a price tag on a unfinished product and shoved it out the door. If you want to defend the company and PD for the state of KSP 2 release that's fine but unfriendly consumer practices should never be brushed to the side by saying a company needs to make money.

[@Thedarkwaterbun]

@@thelizard556 i literally said I was defending the devs not the company

[@Probe_CCC]

I encountered a bug where when you decouple or staging, for example the first stage, would stick to the second stage, and it’s not just a visual bug, the first stage with all its weights and aerodynamics would still be accounted for… and if you have a thruster on second stage and ignited it, in KSP1 it would just burn the parts that’s stuck, however it’s not the case in KSP2, it’s just stuck.🤷‍♂️ I do find a way to “fix” it, it’s when you enter orbit, click on your current orbit, time warp to any point and when time warp finishes it will be unstuck.

[@familiarhuman]

encountered that same bug, both on a rover and on a rocket. not looking good.

[@CountJeffula]

I had the same bug with MSI 4090 Suprim and 13900ks overclocked 128gb ram. It’s not because of specs I suspect.

[@Probe_CCC]

@@CountJeffula bro just did a "I have 80 million power" here💀💀

[@endlesswaffles6504]

I can accept big issues in an early access game. I can't accept paying $50 for an early access game with big issues. Definitely waiting for a big sale, a big update, or ideally both. 794 hours in KSP 1, I'll keep playing it for now.

[@adamleblanc5294]

One thing I do want to point out is that the dev/marketing teams have been super honest about the state of the game and haven't tried to hide it before release like other games. They let journalist and KZbinrs go play it early with all bugs present, and have been pretty upfront about it being in a buggy state. Compared to other games that have tried to burry the problems before putting it out, it's a good approach to take. Anybody who bought the game should have known what state it was going to be in, they were informed by the developers about it. My only big complaint is that they put the early access out at full price. $35 would have been much more reasonable as a trade off for the valuable feedback it's giving them.

[@ricks4348]

The big selling point and what was in every single video was ability to make colonies and that's not even in the game

[@Daniel-jq4qk]

No Auto-Strut!? No Staging TWR??? WTF are you kidding me..

[@rolandmine6693]

As someone who has 3070TI and is a ksp player and doesn’t want to spend$50 for a early release. I appreciate this, I won’t be buying early access👍

[@criseist9786]

Bruh at this point I straight won't be buying it. I haven't dove too deep into mods for 1, I've always just stuck mostly stock. Maybe this is a good indicator to start

[@rolandmine6693]

@@criseist9786 ikr I’m just gonna play ksp 1 with a shi ton of mods and volumetric clouds.

[@MDE_never_dies]

​@@criseist9786 Yon't regret it, you can get the game to look as good as KSP 2 with better frames and better UI. Download some extra parts as well, go ham with some planet packs or get some neat tools like Kerbal Engineer.

[@rafaelcruzs2]

For me, the bad performance is a big no. Sadly couldn’t manage it to run at reasonable fps. I get it that the game is graphically demanding, but no way it’s that much demanding

[@parsa5290]

This game had 3 years of delays and is still in This state. Makes me wonder what is going on

[@shibity]

They rebuilt from scratch, so even though it has been 5 years this specific product is only about 2 years, which might explain the barebones state.

[@arakui]

@@shibity rebuilt it from scratch yet based all their code off of ksp 1? you have to try to mess it up that badly

[@shibity]

@@arakui rebuilt from scratch from the one they threw away ~2 years ago, which I think was also built on the KSP1 engine.

[@mikicerise6250]

Yes. The question is how many times did they rebuild it from scratch before going back to the KSP1 codebase? :p

[@Hoff_0313]

Anyone complaining is clearly not a tester/or familiar with research and development. Early Access means you will receive access to an unfinished game. There will be bugs, things will break, your experience will be subpar in some aspects. The beautiful thing about early access is that this is a controlled setting and an opportunity for you as a “tester” to give feedback to the devs so that they can fix the issue/s you report which will make the RELEASED version of the game BETTER for everyone. Either wait for the final release or participate in helping the devs make this game better by submitting your constructive criticism. It’s called being an adult.

[@MrSzymonpik]

After the years of promises: "we care for the game, we will launch it, when ready, trust us it will be incredible." I feel cheated. Game im this state, do not give me Hope, for good stability, or even decent performance.

[@AxeMan562]

Well to be fair, it hasn't really launched yet. This is still early access, where people can leave their feedback and the developers can make the appropriate adjustments so that the actual release will be as good as possible.

[@agentald3143]

dont think early access is launched

[@Pondimus_Maximus]

Don’t hold it against the devs. The publisher forced them to release in this state. 😢

[@MrSzymonpik]

@@AxeMan562 All I can comment on is early access version. They charge money for the game, so it was lunched. For now there are, like 50/50 split on revieves on steeam. So community is not happy, with this buggy and lackluster relese.

[@chrisgaming9567]

@@Pondimus_Maximus It was already in development for a total of 6 years, and was 3 years behind schedule for release

[@obamabarack1816]

Tbh, the game is in its worst state it will ever be with the least features it will ever have, and I’ve already had fun exploring the world, building an sr71, and landing on Moho. While the current state is pretty barren of actual gameplay, the future does look incredibly exciting. If you are skeptical, wait for full release (praying it doesn’t take another 3 years), if you have $50 to throw around, go for it.

[@Hanking_Man]

I have had a really bad bug where a decoupler just won’t decouple.

[@aq_ua]

The amount of cope with "it's just early access" and "KSP 1 was rough at launch too" is just laughable. Not only can a huge chunk of KSP players not even play the game to begin with, which is a whole issue of it's own, you can't compare the small group that was making KSP at first to what we have now. It's a cope and we all know it

[@andrewgreen376]

I'm surprised how many people are okay with the state just because of EA. A sequel backed by a major publisher isn't even the type of game that should be in early access, especially being in this state after so many years of delays. I'd understand if it was indie or a new concept but it is neither. If you have an existing framework, and TakeTwo's money, and almost half a decade, I expect better.

[@deadbeef576]

KSP 1 also did not have a big publisher behind it and cost 50 dollars It all seems like a cash grab a week before the end of the fiscal year of the publisher

[@MDE_never_dies]

KSP 1 will always be the true KSP. So I'm just going to keep calling it....KSP, and pretend this other abomination doesn't exist.

[@alextricoverload]

The KSP 2 dev's attempt at killing the Kraken seems to have been the equivalent of trying to fend off a bear with a .22 caliber rifle. It did nothing serious and just pissed the Kraken off more.

[@Niskan40]

As someone who loves playing KSP, I was excited for the release of KSP 2. However, after trying it out, I don't think it's quite ready for early access. One of the main issues I encountered was the game's performance, which isn't up to par. My PC setup includes an RTX 3080, an i7-7700K, and 32GB of RAM. Also, I find the UI frustrating to use because there are too many menus covering much of the screen, especially in the VAB, and the basic controls are different from what I'm used to in KSP 1. This is a significant change for me since I've spent thousands of hours playing KSP 1. I hope they'll introduce a legacy UI or controls for the people used to the original. I also noticed that the pro-grade and target marker would change in the map view, so even though I was pointing at my target in normal view when I changed to the map view, my rocket would do a weird flip and suddenly went retro-grade ruining my mission to rendezvous... Indeed the audio is amazing! Honestly I'm a bit disappointed with the game's current state, I'm hopeful that the developers will address these issues (and many others) in the future. As of now, I wouldn't recommend KSP 2 However, I'm optimistic that, like KSP 1, it will eventually become an excellent game with some necessary improvements. For now I will be heading back to KSP 1.

[@Torgonius]

When i played today, my craft to get to orbit was fine. Of course, it wasn't too big or complex. Then I did a mun probe, and it also went off without a hitch, except for me having to learn how to fly without MechJeb. I didn't experience any of the issues others were reporting. Then I tired to build a Duna lander and quit that after the 3rd attempt because all those issues came to visit me. I'm glad I got it today, but those patches and fixes we're waiting on means that I'll be limiting my KSP2 time for now.

[@celem91]

Oh no... I remember the early days of the first with none of the native planning assists. Some of the first mods authored fixed that lack (Kerbal Engineer). They even rolled it into the core years back. How did this slip through? It was required information for a majority of the player base. Rocketry is hard enough, please solve the equation for us in engine

[@StripperMonkey]

Great review and as a huge fan of the original, I can agree with all the issues you are experiencing are the same I have experienced. All said, it is for better than the original launch. Anyone remember random exploding while leaving the atmosphere or while time acceleration exploding when transitioning back into the atmosphere

[@The_Dragon_Tiamat]

"But it's early access just wait if you want a better experience!!!!" That isn't the issue, the issue is that this is going to be a lot of peoples first impressions of the game which really matter a lot. So far those impressions are: 1. I'm going to need an insane computer to even play the game 2. Even with the recommended spec the game is extremely buggy 3. I'm getting much much less for much more of a cost 4. The game is too frustrating to play A lot of people will go off of first impressions when deciding to play a game and if they have bad first impressions then they most likely wont come back even if the game has fixed everything they had an issue with just due to the sour taste in their mouth from playing it. I know corporate is most likely responsible for pushing a 50 dollar early access. However assuming that wasn't the case what the devs really should have done was allow people to sign up to beta test and 5,000 people would get the game for free to beta test and as a reward for doing this they get to keep the game for free even when it does come out to early access and beyond. This is what Klei did for Don't Starves DLC Hamlet and it worked very well.

[@aq_ua]

Also note: the majority of KSP fans probably won't even be able to play the game for a long time.

[@boo8695]

Well said

[@kng132]

Gread video! I'd love to see them re-add the part action window AND have a button to call up the parts manager separately, I think they'd work well together but yeah we need the part action window back. Bought this game to support the devs and push the game along but I'm back to modded KSP1 as this game is nearly unplayable at the moment. Early access still so optimistic for this game!

[@gogsie59]

New player here, never played ksp1, I am really enjoying it and I'm currently going thru the tutorials which have worked flawlessly (no crashes). Struggling with the going to mun and capturing the orbit, the drag the thingy to make the orbit doesn't seem to work for me, I end up pointing way out to space I can't get it like they show you in the example. I'll keep persevering. Thumbs up from me (so far).

[@WigneyR]

They need to reduce the price, early access is supposed to be cheaper then you release it as full price when it’s finished, I’m not paying 74.99 AUD to beta test this shit

[@tacklemcclean]

Really good tutorials and guides within the game is a great idea. But I'm quite surprised there has been work done on that front before nailing the basics in the game. Seems the devs are at the first steps of "so how should this be improved over KSP 1?".

[@Nik7773]

The trip planner (3rd icon on bottom right icons) allow you to plan your trip and see the dv etc with the different gravity and atmospheres

[@lucasbi]

I agree with all that you mention in this video. There are lot of bugs and some disappointments, but I know that is also a lot of potential. Little tip for everyone: when you can't send your rocket to the launching pad, go to the facility viev, choose one of the launching pad and load previously saved rocket, that you want to launch. It works, and you don't must to relunch the whole game. For me, the worst bugs were: 1. last save's (even if I quicksaved or saved manually) I had was an 2 hours old 2. rockets or parts of rockets are self-blowing without any reason 3. keys H and N for forward and backward moves for docking doesn't working properly at all 4. (not bug but it's serious for me) lack of important information about fuel, precision manouvering, center of gravity doesn't change if we are changing quantity of fuel in hangar, some other bugs, which sometimes occurs, and for some reason sometimes not I will be looking forward for changes in KSP2, because it has potential, looks beautiful, and I know that modder society brings this title to perfection, like it was with KSP!

[@EyesBlack2]

I just did an apollo style landing on the mun and ohh boy the game hated that. The maneuver node just stopped working after I separated craft in 2 pieces (lander and orbital bits), I had tons of fuel in all stages but after a save and loading back in half the time it would say I had 0 fuel in everything out of nowhere. Once I had my kerbals unable to eva for literally no reason with red squares over their icons. When I did land on the mun I saved, changed prospective to the orbital vessel then back and when I went back to my lander it was inside the mun falling into oblivion. Tried to rocket my way out but of course the surface is still the surface even from inside the planet so poof. I loved ksp 1 and had high hopes for this game I am sure it will get ironed out in time but a simple thing like... how much fuel do i have in this part... doesn't really exist you click the part and its just blank, its kind of a frustrating mess atm. The Launches and countdowns at the space center are great tho lol! I haven't rendezvoused yet or docked because of all the problems I just come online to see what people are saying and yup... seems right.

[@theonefrancis696]

And as I always say, hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

[@RADIS370]

Remind me,what features did KSP 1 Have at early access?

[@chrisgaming9567]

Remind me, how much did KSP1 cost at early access? How long had KSP1 been in development at early access?

[@RADIS370]

@@chrisgaming9567 Remind me,How much years ago was KSP Released? When did it enter early access? Edit:Remind me,how many years has been KSP 2 In development?

[@TarisSinclair]

Thanks for the honest review. Far too many people seem to be lost in their pink-colored world of release ecstasy and can't see the problems. You highlight both the good and the bad. IMO one of the things KSP2 needs most is thorough optimization. KSP1 could calculate physics using a potato for processor; how monstrously bloated and inefficient must KSP2's simulation be to require 3070 or better.. Not to mention that even 4080s struggle to give you stable FPS and run into painful stuttering and framedrops.

[@simonpettersson6788]

The 3070 and 480 you are referring to are GPU's and they don't calculate physics. They calculate where to draw pixels on the screen. The CPU does the physics, and at least according to Scott Manley the CPU load is less in KPS2 than in KSP1. Can't verify because I'm not paying for this before it's playable.

[@TarisSinclair]

@@simonpettersson6788 Wrong. GPUs are used to run physics simulations these days, and have been for over 6 years now.

[@sharp14x]

@@TarisSinclair I wasn't at that meeting, when we all decided to run physics on the GPU. By the way, you're completely wrong.

[@TarisSinclair]

@@sharp14x I'm not. But please do go on making yourself look like a moron. :)

[@EternalNico1]

I remember first playing KSP1 on a mac laptop😂

[@Vdherrlichkeit]

Let‘s face the truth here. We all paid 50 bucks for being tester for a pre-alpha. I did not expect the game to be bug free in an early access. But the amount of basic functionalities missing is simply impudent. The first time ever I‘ll get a refund via steam.

[@ioioioioio6026]

I guess i'll wait to pick this up on sale in 4-5 years when its actually playable and someone mods the old ui in

[@mr.mirror1213]

same ;)

[@DeadBaron]

you can walk on the sun and jool lol. What have they been doing for years? Harvester built KSP1 by himself until he had a few people added to his team. This is a massive studio backed by a massive publisher.

[@sultan4d169]

in short: ksp1 is still valid in next 3-4 years

[@taylormurphy2551]

Am I the only one who thinks the font and icons are too pixelated? I love a good retro-80’s vibe, but this not optimal for communicating information quickly!

[@Peter-cx6bt]

That mess is available for $67.00 Canadian Dollars on Steam. Thanks for your honesty, I would not even touch it with a 10 foot pole. 😁 I think that people made many KSP1 tributes and farewell videos a bit too early. I guess some of them are reinstalling the game at this moment...

[@JohnGregory-i8o]

how can you charge 67 dollars for a game in EARLY ACCESS? at least be very clear that the game is nowhere near finished and you shouldn't buy it unless you are an avid supporter that wants to invest/support the game. Or give a discount for early access supporters or better yet make it free until full release. without that there is no motivation to actually finish the game because they already made bank. Probably spent more time on the launch trailer cinematic to trick people into buying it then the actual game.

[@BigMadSniper]

its still early access, the devs have said that if you're not happy with the current state of the game DONT buy it give it a chance

[@mephisto8101]

No, I won't. And I am a hardcore KSP1 fan. There are too many issues right now to reward the early access with money for the publisher.

[@FrAsSBrAsS]

The whole industrie is to blame ... only fucking early access full pricing ... they dont care just aboout money and buying time... moders will patch it faster than the devs lol

[@Boomgaardian]

Honestly the price is the biggest problem. I am will to forgive a lot of bugs and goofyness as long as the price reflects that I'm getting half a game

[@TetanusSnowfall]

Man, the save one is awful. I hope they've fixed it before letting people buy because if there's one thing that sets long-lasting negativity towards a game it's wiping your progress arbitrarily, for me at least. I can't say I was optimistic about the state the game would launch in given the considerable delays, (what I felt was) little communication, and the things that pass for early access, but it has me worried that even people who have every reason to try to love the game can't even give a cautious recommendation loaded with caveats. Hopefully at worst this is a No Man's Sky situation and the performance and feature upgrades that come down the line make this a game worth playing.

[@samlane1078]

But how many of us wanted to love no man’s sky, decided it wasn’t worth it at initial release, and still haven’t played it many years later because of the poor initial impression. The way KSP1 did early access was great because we didn’t expect anything from it. We didn’t complain so much about missing things, because we didn’t realise what we were missing out on. But here we do. Here we know exactly what we’re not getting for our money. And I’m one more person who will spend my weekend playing KSP1 rather than getting grumpy at KSP2

[@TetanusSnowfall]

@@samlane1078 Yeah, I have no doubts this launch is gonna sour a lot of people towards ever trying the game, no matte how much they were looking forward to it. I'm certainly not gonna give the game a chance until I see substantial improvement, and even then I'm not sure since I actually own KSP1 and it does so much of what I wanted from KSP2.

[@anonymous-rb2sr]

All I can say is I told you so, I bloody told you so, I predicted everything, and I am just appalled at how no one else did, what is wrong with you people

[@dansiegel995]

3 hours on it, and it is the biggest piece of shit I have ever bought in Early Access - it will be YEARS before remotely as good as KSP1, minus the graphics and sound.

[@JoeTheSpaceGuy]

I really cannot comprehend how this game is $50 at launch. Its an utter mess. Missing tons of features from the original game. We don't even have a campaign.. I've played the game for around 6 hours today according to Steam, but in reality, its probably 2 hours of play-time and 4 hours of problems with saves, and menus. And don't even get me started on the performance issues...

[@yooper5638]

Agree with most all of your points. Autostrut is *desperately* needed. So is stage TWR info. And even just getting to the Mun is tremendously difficult - How do I tell where my Mun periapsis is as I'm attempting to set up the maneuver? My computer is about 7 years old and game play performance is abysmal - Two to five FPS during launch. Nearly unplayable. Sigh. Time for a new computer. That said, I get that this is early access and things will be fixed that can be fixed.

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

If I have more then 4 engines I get 14FPS on my Ryzen 9 950x and RTX 3090... So yeah they desperately need to optimize.

[@gedmiller]

I'm glad you mentioned those bugs. I've encountered all of them and more. It's disappointing how bad the performance is, even though I have the recommended specs. Also, I think the UI is ugly and cumbersome; if they don't change it, I hope people will make texture packs.

[@ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo]

A lot of sizzle.... without the steak so far with KSP2.

[@xorn69]

Omg this is an early access game! I can’t believe people are complaining as though this is version 1.0. The entitlement and hubris is strong.

[@kaiikiller4777]

It's nearly 80 dollars for me.... that's so expensive for an early access game, I paid about 15 if memory serves for the original during early access.

[@Tmccreight25Gaming]

This is highly disappointing. But considering how early we are in the lifetime of Kerbal Space Program 2 I'm hopeful that it will quickly become a worthy successor to KSP 1.

[@Percebob]

"Early"? For a game that was supposed to release in 2020 I'd say we're pretty far along.

[@atch4764]

@@Percebob you do realize that 2020 was a year full of pain and suffering ye? also it took a while for ksp 1 to get reaaaally good, so

[@Percebob]

@@atch4764 Yeah, my guy, if you think the game was delayed because of the pandemic (especially considering it was supposed to come out early in the year), I have a bridge to sell you.

[@atch4764]

@@Percebob oh no, i dont think it was delayed solely because of 2020, but 2020 played a big role in the delays afterwards

[@Juanxlink]

You right, its only been 12 years...

[@kettlehead8994]

My biggest problem is that instead of gibberish they put proper English in it now, so disappointed

[@fl_3682]

For a game that entered early access 2 years late, it's ironic that it feels like it needs another 2 years development before it enters early access

[@chrisgaming9567]

Don't forget that the original excuse for pushing back the release was that they wanted to skip over early access and provide a full game. We got the worst of both worlds.

[@cosmus2584]

I am gonna give my personal view. I am what you would consider a beginner in KSP. I played the first game for some hours (20+) and am now playing the 2nd game. Until now (3 hours or so) the game did not crash once. I did all the tutorials consecutively (which are really good and intuitive btw) and the game did not crash. The new UI is much more beginner friendly and approachable then the windows 98 looking UI from the first game. I have been having lots of fun with the new game. I can, however, understand some of the frustration you shared in this vídeo and I hope KSP 2 continues to evolve because it has the potential to be far better than the first one. I hope the team does put their all into this project and I hope the money and player feedback they got from their early access launch will help them achieve their goals faster

[@colachofcb]

I would accept this state at launch for an early access game that was built from the ground up. What makes this whole situation sad and worrying is that a full blown studio spent 2-3 years of development on an existing game to deliver a game that doesnt even does the basics of the first game. They lied to us about what would be delivered all this time. Now I understand the lack of gameplay and actual info before launch. I feel my trust betrayed tbh

[@dancingferret6654]

They were extremely honest about what the game would be at the beginning of early access. They released the minimum and recommended requirements. They explained why they were so high. They said that a number of what some people would consider core features would not initially be present. They said that performance would be spotty. Hell, Nate Simpson flat out said that for some people waiting a bit would be the right option. I'll happily criticize them for the pricing which is definitely too high, but otherwise I can't really think of another dev team that was so up front about what they were "releasing."

[@colachofcb]

@@dancingferret6654 Yeah, they explained all that like 3 days before launch after many years of development and marketing

[@wirbelchen5379]

@@colachofcb it was more than 3 days tho

[@OCinneide]

I HATE, HATE the new UI. It looks out of focus and is extremely difficult on the eyes.

[@flightgamer7849]

I'm most concerned that the depth of physics calculations just isn't there under the hood as in KSP1. Hope I am wrong and the game just isn't providing the data that is in fact there somewhere. If KSP2 has gone more pretty game and less sim it would be very sad. Anyone got a better feel for this after playing for awhile? I would be curious.

[@rak6437]

Dude! I felt the exact same way about this game. I could not wait for the release! I was estatic about it since the announcement first came out and felt extremely disappointed when they kept pushing back the release date. I can't believe KSP 1 is better than KSP 2 😭😭😭😭

[@kfenstymiller]

how are you surprised? They literally released a timeline of when they'll be releasing features. If you weren't mentally a sloth, you would probably have seen that even science modules wouldn't be added for sometime. Meaning that on release, it's just going to be sandbox with a lot less features. How are you surprised ksp 1 is better than ksp at this exact moment? I bought the game knowing i'll be playing ksp 1 in the meantime, and coming back to ksp 2 to try new updates in the future. Are you people retarded or just dont know how ksp 1 was built? Guess it's both

[@unocualqu1era]

Welcome to modern-ish game releases, where somehow people manage to release stuff that is objectively worse despite the fact all they had to do was build upon the base of its predecessor. The GTA trilogy is another big example.

[@Lexyvil]

The sad part is that it feels like all these issues could have been addressed before coming out on Early Access.

[@leflamewolf]

Along with the more serious bugs I've noticed some fairly funny bugs. My brother made a ship and when detaching a lower stage it just didn't, but then it slowly moved up phasing though the main ship then disappeared leaving nothing of the stage behind. I learned that heating didn't exist yet so decided to take a quick visit to Kerbol, but when my orbit got below 1km my camera started spazzing out (good thing I'm not epileptic because *wow* ) and then the ship spontaneously disappeared (RIP Valentina). Another experience I had was if you take your kerbal out of a ship and then timewarped, the kerbal would move, but the ship would not follow. This would fix itself when exiting timewarp.

[@NovemberOrWhatever]

For me, the flight UI was a deal-breaker. (That pixelated font is terrible, look at lowercase g.) I'm becoming even less excited about it after seeing this video. They can definitely make this into a good game, but I'm not entirely sure that they will.

[@MauveDash]

I'm gonna wait for a mod that replaces the UI with the UI from KSP 1

[@aq_ua]

I can't even get as far as playing the game lmao

[@5893MrWilson]

Physics based games are hungry for CPU performance. Particularly single core and L3 catch. I get 70-100fps in 4k with a 5800x3D

[@mephisto8101]

How many parts of the craft? In orbit or Kerbin? VAB in view or not?

[@5893MrWilson]

@@mephisto8101 it was relatively small. Launched the biggest rocket in the pre sets and was around 55fps. Large 3 stage rocket was about 20-30fps

[@Randomguy82934]

can't wait for the mods to arrive to save the game as they do on ksp1

[@okankyoto]

Apparently mod support is coming soon.

[@cenn2]

Cant mod a broken game

[@unhommequicourt]

mod only adds instability. If the game is not stable, it will be impossible to mod anything

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

How do you plan on modding this? It already barley works and crashes Mods would just end up killing any few frames you get

[@Randomguy82934]

@@jesusramirezromo2037 did you read the sentence? "can't wait for the mods to arrive". in the beginning ksp 1 was also horrible and nowadays it even has volumetric clouds. Mods may not arrive now, but one day they will.