Kerbal Space Program - New Demo & Mun Landing Tutorial

[@scottmanley]

No I said that if you want to go to other planets then it's inefficient to use a munar encounter, because the munar encounter limits your ability to exploit the oberth effect to attain the required hyperbolic excess velocity for the transfer. Simply getting to interplanetary space and not going far can exploit a munar gravity assist, but you wont't go fast enough to get to another planet.

[@scottmanley]

Yes I'm all over this story right now, trying to get more info. The Russian Event is almost certainly unrelated to the 2012 DA14 close approach. I really meant to make some videos but I had so much going on it was hard.

[@MoonbaseAlphaFan]

After several failed attempts, I finally broke down and watched this demo. On my next launch, I not only reached the Mun, but I had a (mostly) successful landing. Appreciate the tips. They really helped.

[@MrSmaste]

PFFF I have been trying for 2 days to land on the Mun, watched this and literally a few seconds ago I finished my second landing. :D Thank you so much!

[@scottmanley]

Well in this specific case it's the demo version and docking isn't supported in te demo. But the other reason that you see less of this in KSP is that the amount of delta-v to land on the Mun is about 1/4 of the dV needed for the real Moon, so the advantage is smaller, and if the advantage isn't always big enough to justify the extra mass for the second crew module, engines and other options. But of course, I like building missions with separate landers because docking is fun :)

[@AsherGames]

I just wanted to thank you for this and other videos you have posted. Your beginner guides have helped me tremendously getting off the ground and getting in orbit around Mun and Minmus. Now that I have the concept of landing and returning, it's time to take the next step!

[@Varasalvi2]

Went to the Mun, planted a flag, ran around and fell over, a lot. Got back in the shuttle, took off and landed on Kerbin with the landing gear. All this thanks to you! I did however build my own shuttle, without watching yours, more fun that way. And i did have a little bit more fuel than you but i was a little bit wasteful and barely made it back. Thanks again!

[@AtomicHamburger1]

I got 3 Kerbals on the Mun. When I returned I ran out of fuel so I used RCS to close my PE to about 300,000KM above Kerbin. After that I used my inertia to orbit back around and then times it so the Mun gave me a gravitation assist right smack into Kerbin where I opened my chutes and returned all 3 astronauts safely. Now I feel so proud. I also have numerous satellites one in Geosync and lastly a rover that used the skycrane to land like Curiosity. 90% thanks to you Scott for teaching me :D

[@sulijoo]

When the Mun was flat. Ah, those were the days. Incidentally I've only just noticed in v0.90 if you look near the Administration Building there appears to be a...swimming pool! Those Kerbals are so extravagant!

[@scottmanley]

sulijoo That's not a swimming pool, it's a zero g training facility.

[@sulijoo]

Scott Manley Ah of course! Silly me, that'd make sense. Not sure why it's open-air, though. Maybe the funding ran out for a roof.

[@RileyElliottthecoolandwierdguy]

+Scott Manley so I have a challenge it may not be very hard for you seeing as you are Scott Manley but can you get to the mün or Minmus with just the newest demo parts?-Riley

[@justanotherbackupaccount9065]

+Riley Elliott Yeah, many people already have, including me (to the Mün -Minmus wasn't added-) however I played in 0.13.3 which has LESS parts than the demo, AND had worst -harder to use- aerodynamics.

[@PTNLemay]

Thanks for still making these beginner guides! We players who are stuck in the noob-zone appreciate it greatly.

[@chaddicusthegreat]

Looking at the smoothness and quality the new engine is actually pretty nice so far. I like how the font has changed too, not as skinny and more clear. Great vid m8

[@MagnumMustang321]

Been there, done that. Officially as of today, I have made a landing on the mün through the demo, all thanks to Scott Manley! Thank you so much man! I didn't land with my ship though... I bailed as soon as my ship lost all of it's fuel, then I made the last hundred meters with a jetpack, and proceded to bounce for a half mile. I think I might just have enough jetpack fuel to get back home with Bob. :/ Back on topic: You're the best Scott! I couldn't have done it without you!

[@eedajs]

"That's one small step for man. One giant leap for mankind." - Neil Armstrong 20. July 1969

[@johnpescatore7968]

Oh, the old days. I remember when I got this game in 2013 and i used to binge all of your videos. It was so good. Now I am able to get pretty much anywhere and back.

[@fwindv3954]

The dotted lines connected between two orbits indicate an angle, if the first orbit is tilted off-axis relative to the second orbit. You can adjust this angle by burning northwards or southwards on the point where the dotted lines appear.

[@mathias1629]

Thanks allot! Now I can get to the Mun without problems. When i saw your video I used a bit bigger space-rocket design (like you said we should may make it bigger) and now I get allot of science points for my save file! With my design i got back easily too Kerbin! But I couldn't do it without a nice tutorial like this!

[@andrewl6759]

Thanks for the video! I was never able to successfully orbit the Mun before, but after watching I not only orbited, but successfully landed as well (snapping one leg off on the impact but staying upright). Like you, I struggled with fuel, having only enough to get me to 35K, but after one orbit Kerbin sucked me in. It was intense!

[@djdoole]

It's been 3 months since I've watched this video, and I've landed a small base on the mun and minmus. I've also landed a rover on duna and a ground probe on moho. Thanks for the help!

[@MariosSimChannel]

Hey Scott, love your videos, finally i get to fly to the mun! Its rather hard, but gets so much better with your explanation. Thanks for taking the time to do these, i tremendously enjoy them.

[@jonathanwanford1473]

Cheers man! This tutorial finally got me down with the technique and fuel to get me back, which was a first! Great vid !

[@МихаилМаркеев-и9н]

It's amazing! Before I saw this, I can't believe it's possible to reach Mun and get back to the Kerbal by using so small 2-stage rocket. Respect!

[@KaTzaNdSTuFf]

Terrific tutorial! I'm currently at 12:12 in your video and following your every move! If I can make it to the Mun it will be my first time there after many, many failures. Allons-y!

[@planetsec9]

Really fantastic tutorial, I used it to land safely on the Mun with no trouble, and then immediately decided to repeat those steps and land a second craft less than 1km away, that was easy up to the part where I had to figure out how to do that, managed it finally after a lot of trial and error because I would crash and lose all control of the craft just trying to get hopping closer towards the first craft (thank god for the additional quicksave function) This is the last time I ever attempt to go to the Mun without at least 1 RCS fuel and quad thruster on my lander. Managed to have a safe and nominal return back to Kerbin for the first lander, but unfortunately the second ran out of fuel quick due to all that hopping, that should have been done with RCS.

[@fwindv3954]

The periapsis is the lowest point of an orbit relative to the body you are orbiting. In this specific case he was keeping the mouse over the yellow periapsis, which is a second orbital projection after the Mun's gravity catches the craft. The purple line is a third projection after the craft escapes the Mun's influence, if velocity is left unchanged, so it has no importance in this case, since you want to stay in lunar orbit.He was lowering the Mun periapsis so he can establish a lower orbit.

[@smitz001]

This is probably the most exciting game ive ever played. When i orbited the first time i felt like i really accomplished something. I only have the demo version though scotts videos have taught me much more about the game.

[@powerboon2k]

Ok. Just managed to do this after many tries. It was pretty epic and now I am obsessed with space travel both real and virtual. FYI whenever I quick saved with my landing struts deployed and then reloaded that save the struts would be floating next to my spacecraft! Also I tried it when I was landed on the Mun and when I reload my ship just fell on its side! Funny now but at the time I was mega pissed. I don't know if this has happened to anyone else, anyone? I love your videos and without this video I would still be drifting in space without a clue. Chapeau!

[@DCVM93]

For me, Scott Manley is the official spokesman of kerbal space program. He's incredibly knowledgeable, humorous and able to take things from rocket science to layman's terms without making me feel like an idiot, (which I do often and well enough on my own, thank you.) And, while I have stranded many a kerbal deep in space, thanks to Scott, I like to think that number is slightly less.

[@KayoMichiels]

the composite of a meteorite is discussed by many but the fact it's shining com from airfriction causes it to heat up and glow, and it can explodes if a certain liguid or solid is turning into gas by the heat and builds up pressure inside the meteorite and when the pressure reaches too high it bursts and explodes.

[@xXDogBreathXx]

Thanks this helped a lot. I've also found that if you go into a 80km orbit around kerbin and burn prograde as you soon as you see the mün rising, and cut the engines once you se the apoapsis

[@CarubiChips]

Oh my lord, thank you so much for this tutorial.. we don't get enough training in the demo and I'm half assing the mun encounter... this is going to make my day!

[@squiddie96]

I learned so many basic things for how long I've been playing this game! Can't believe I missed so much this entire time.

[@SteveS63]

Instructions were great. I landed on Minmus and jet packed around a bit. I had significantly less fuel on board, not the best pilot, and couldn't get a return with what I had. Using 0.21.1 though so simply reverted to the VSB prior to launch. Will try again and see if I need to pilot better or just add more fuel. Thanks for the tutorials.

[@scottmanley]

Wishes aren't necessary - just pay the $23 for the full version

[@SemiEssessi]

Just to clarify Scott's answer which lacks a bit of information if you know nothing about these terms: apogee and perigee are specific to orbits around the Earth - from geo. We can also talk about apojove or perijove for Jupiter, or aphelion and perihelion for the sun etc.

[@6FTCloser]

Thanks for the Tutorial, I enjoyed my trip to the Mun. I even purposely stranded an expedition (don't tell the Kermins!) so I could mount a rescue mission with a double pod rocket. It was very quite fun!

[@scottmanley]

Apogee only applies to orbits around the Earth, Apoapsis applies everywhere.

[@scottmanley]

IVA, EVA, Action Groups, Improved Graphics, Improved Physics, Persistence, Saves, Launch Clamps

[@Jarl_Thidrandi]

i know what you mean, when i first finally made it to the moon i was unaware of the save features so i had to do it all in one go, and when i finally came down for that landing my heart was in my throat, and i was as excited as if i was actually there.

[@GeorgeFoot]

Mun has far lower gravity than Kerbin, so the Oberth effect is much more limited there. You could gain a small amount of delta-v from the slingshot but any fuel you choose to burn would be better spent near Kerbin than near Mun.

[@8059875]

As a last resort I always get the ion engine attached to the command capsule with the xenon container on top and a few batteries/solar panels around it. With this ive never ran out of fuel yet. Its not enough to get you off a planet but it is great for orbital maneuvers(even if it takes a shit load of time).

[@DavidJDPhotos]

Scott, I believe if I am not mistaken, The crater you landed in is where the Armstrong memorial is, and not too far from your landing site at that. Of course this is provided that is the proper crater.

[@darklyt750]

I love the part where you just do the de orbit burn for the Mun. "We might hit a mountain" made me giggle. Done that a few times now :P

[@Retales]

12:15 Man, I wholeheartedly agree. I was sweating like a gimp in a sauna during my first Mun landing.

[@LeGiTb0sStutorials]

You were even more helpful than the game's tutorials THANK YOU!

[@scottmanley]

The po-ta-toe VS po-tah-to situation is ridiculous since it's pronounced po-tay-toe. Adding difference designations for different bodies helps a lot when discussing interplanetary missions where multiple SOI changes occur, and the orbit needs to be described with respect to different bodies.

[@PrimeSniper7]

Try to keep your rocket balanced using the symmetry tool and use the red launch struts in the structures tab to steady your craft before/at the start of your launch

[@mandowarrior123]

F9 loads quicksaves, hold it down. The speed your landing gear can take varies on the weight of your module, but straight down at about 5m/s you should not have any problems.

[@TheCheeseChomper]

You are still really good, the fact that you are attempting to go to another planet and you didn't violently explode before launch means you are successful. :P

[@logicalfundy]

Ah, I remember doing mun landings before the maneuver node system - wait until munrise and start thrusting :). It don't think it even told you if your orbit intersected the mun's SOI, although you could still use the map view. So a lot more guessing. But still feasible. The node system really helps when you have the other planets.

[@ThumbsHunter]

Mr. Manley, you are the Wernher von Braun of KSP ;)

[@thecamoduo]

Werhner Von Kerman*

[@littlefrank90]

You guys are great, I seem to be VERY bad at this game :P Yesterday I got so excited when I finally put a spaceship in orbit around Kerbin! I am studying this tutorial in details to understand how to actually manover my ship

[@TheShudilama]

Thank you Scott, I finally made it to the moon with help from this video. It is surprisingly "easy" once you have done it a few times. I now also have a base on Minmus and Duna :)

[@KleptomaniaKat]

You can easily take awesome advantage of the oberth effect on the moon, it just takes a bit more planning, as well as a burn at the moon.

[@Zagik53124]

27:33 Arnold was about to take over, Mr. Manley got it back though. Great tutorial!

[@JayCheetah]

Thank you for this video Scott. I just started with KSP and your tutorial helped me a lot. Had trouble getting my stranded crew back :P

[@Pifu4]

Well thanks to this video I have FINALLY landed on the mun... to bad I ran out of fuel and hit the ground too hard.. The capsule survived now I gotta learn some more to rescue my poor kerbal. Thanks for these Tutorials they really do Help a lot. Before I was just rocketing through space hoping something good would happen now I actually fly instead.

[@DrDoom42]

Great video. I just bought the full version the other day. It's nice to land with landing legs now.

[@TotallyArrJay]

I've experimented a little and found out if you place your Mün transfer maneuver at your nearest ascending/descending node, you get a guaranteed transfer to the body of your choice, though it's more inefficient than the technique Scott mentioned but the difference is miniscule. Maybe 10-15m/s difference. But it works for me everytime.

[@mars2skane]

Bought the game on the basis of the demo. I'm finding the full version 0.19 requires a lot more fuel to get anywhere than the demo did and I'm having a lot more structural failures. But it may just be me. Love the re-entry effects though and it's a great game. Thanks for the great tutorials.

[@ferdinandstlen7524]

27:34 He sounded like terminator for a second there! Scared me when i watched this!! xD

[@weterman4320]

apoapis is farthest from the object you are orbiting. periapis is closest. So, if you change orbit with thrusters, they will switch because one point is now further than other. And it used to be closer.

[@duanevp]

19:45 Just a note: Apollo 8 was not organized to be a moon landing. It was originally to be a test flight of the combined Command/Lunar module but the lunar module wasn't ready yet. That meant some jostling around of flight planning and instead it became a more dramatic command module-only mission to the moon and back.

[@JTshoot]

I still use ASAS, it helps a lot if you don't want to constantly manually adjust your trajectory.

[@LikingTrains12345678]

It is so much smoother than the previous demo

[@TheDutyPaid]

Thank you sir for this video. You are a hero of the Kerbal space program, I will name my first born after you.

[@Stonewaller87]

Apollo 13 had nothing on my first Mun mission - it featured a 270 degree somersault and some quick work on the throttle on munar take off due to broken landing gear of my ascent stage. And then some other stuff blew up on the flight back to Kerbin because it's the Kerbal thing to do. Still made it!

[@IstasPumaNevada]

Someone else mentioned it already; I too think it would be good, on tutorial videos, to enable the video capture program to capture the mouse pointer, so it's easier to follow what you're doing (and you can 'point' to things that you're talking about).

[@Viccaro7]

Thanks to you I got my first interplanetary landing on the Mun (Haven't even landed on Minimus yet), I don't know if I can get home...

[@ANBUEliet]

I got a huge laugh at 33:40, because at the moment I have had Jebediah stranded on the Mun for almost a week now in-game time! I've made rendezvous with a rescue pod controlled by a probe, but sadly I was just short on fuel to make the burn back to Kerbin..

[@Verd254]

You saved my day Scott. I was about to die from boredom. Thank you.

[@theredstonehive]

Your rocket didn't have enough fuel to land, so I built a bigger and better rocket. By the time you get into orbit around the Mun, you have full fuel in the landing and return stage! :) Though your tips were very handy lol xD

[@DavidAndersonJC]

And manoeuver nodes, which makes everything so much better. Tied with docking as .18's best new feature, imho.

[@Tier1Player]

Please upvote so newbies can see: VAB (Vehicle Assembly Building): Scroll: Move up and down Shift + Scroll: Zoom in and out Alt + Click: Copy/Paste WASD/Q/E: Various rotation/part manipulation controls Shift + WASD...: Rotate/manipulate parts at 5 degree intervals Space Plane Hangar: Shift + Right click + Drag: Move Center of View around Shift + Scroll: Move Center of View up on Z axis Scroll: Zoom on Center of View Mostly the same from here on out (manipulation-wise)

[@scottmanley]

No docking parts.

[@Cswartz9]

As far as I understand it, since asteroids are made by collisions with other rocks, they are inherently unstable. When it hits the atmosphere at a high speed, it essentially 'breaks up' on the inside, and when it collides with the thickest part of the atmosphere there's finally too much inner and outer stress and the whole thing comes apart.

[@gricicool]

Finally made it to the Mun, thank you Scott! :)

[@sgtmiller90]

man you make things seem so easy

[@logicalfundy]

I'm sure they're doing the full version in Unity 4. Probably is taking a bit longer because the full version has more features to move over, and because they're currently making new features as well.

[@UnstoppableAW]

It always amazes me how small the rockets you make are and how they can still do so much. It makes me wonder if I really needed such a big rocket ( using the larger diameter pieces) to do the Mun mission I just completed. I did it the real life way with 3 crew, a separate lander with for 2 crew and command module and with docking and undocking in Munar orbit and all that jazz. I though I optimized my rocket, but then again I needed 36 SRBs, so maybe not. It was over 700 tons at launch :).

[@Obi-WanKannabis]

Hey scott. You allways say that going over 200 m/s on the thick troposphere is a waste of fuel. But I made some tests, and the ones that I kept maximum thrust actually went further.

[@darkaprentist]

your so good at explaining what your doing i think you should make a docking tutorial it would help alot but its up to you

[@mrmildot9122]

Thank you very much for this demonstration Scott :) Has really helped me and i'm sure has helped lots of others too

[@OscillateDarkly]

Finally made at Mimnus landing following this .. follow it to the letter and you too reach the starts .. Thanks Scott.

[@yaboijulian1880]

dude you dont even need the full version because your AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@theredstonehive]

he does have the full version, but be is using this one for this tutorial.

[@Rienspy]

Thanks for this tutorial! :) But can you make a basic guide how to make an efficient rocket? With information about which rocket you should build to go to other planets, or how to lift heavy things into orbit?

[@puskajussi37]

Very nice and informative video, Scott! As a request, could you do a dedicated video on optimizing your rocket and flight plan? As sad as it is I cant get pretty much anything to orbit reliably without at least 3 mainsails.

[@KnightMustard]

The second I heard you say Unity 4 I went to check if a Linux version was out for the demo. DARN! Still waiting. Someday!

[@abebebest]

alt + enter. plus you can adjust your screen resolution in the settings menu.

[@scottmanley]

No offense intended, but that's largely the 'lies to children' version. Firstly the heating isn't friction it's ram pressure that causes the air to heat up. The bang you hear in some videos is a sonic boom, that's what caused most of the damage. Asteroids 'explode' on re-entry because the dynamic pressure and deceleration get too high and they asteroid crumbles, pancaking itself in the airstream, increasing the cross section and dumping a lot of energy in a small section of the trail.

[@VoidThePerpetual]

Is it sad that I see so many people struggling even after Scott's tutorials, yet I made it to Minmus on my first try after watching his tutorial?

[@KaizokuSencho]

I remember going into orbit even before there were a map view, in June 2011. That was a challenge I tell you.

[@CreeperOnYourHouse]

yes, but at regular munar encounter speed getting into interpanetary orbit: In the earlier videos he said that it's too inefficient, it takes more fuel than that. It doesn't, he just showed that.

[@BenRussellsickdude]

So helpful. I love all your KSP vids.

[@Mixedlumps]

Managed to land on the moon only to realize my ladder was too short. Spent about 15 minutes trying to jetpack into the capsule (worked in the end). Fair warning to all those attempting this: make sure your ladder is long enough!

[@GGSUnion]

This is so fun in the career mode when you only have the basic parts

[@EliteShadowLeo]

Success! Landed successfully and walked around for a bit, then came back as a hero ;)

[@patinbsb]

The new unity 4 support multicore cpus which means if you have a dual or quad core cpu then you will receive ~ 25% boost in performance

[@TheoLcr]

YES ! Finally landed on Mun, thanks for the tutorial :D !

[@PaveruHakase]

I got aaaaaaall the way over to the Mun, got in orbit, got real close to it and then failed at the landing. Your rocket worked amazingly though.

[@scottmanley]

no - do not use the patcher any more it's deprecated and will not work.