Kermode Uncut: Great Films You Don’t Like

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[@DavidBeaumont]

I know it's going to be controversial especially after all the awards and such, and particularly after how well the original did. Yes it's a masterpiece of story telling, with deep and complex characters. Yes, the cinematography is second to none (and let's not forget the superb sound design). But I really just couldn't get into "Dumb & Dumber To".

[@garvitsharma9540]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@floreamihai3852]

To be fair it is an aquired taste

[@cosmopolisnouvelle259]

too or two or ll or 2?

[@OGRE_HATES_NERDS]

it was at least as a funny as the original

[@markbarrett4440]

Same with Weekend At Bernie's 2

[@Edaphosaurus]

I have to say, I love how this comment section has proven that every movie in existence will have some detractors

[@WolfGamer2000YT]

Obviously, there will be always somebody who did not agree with the rest.

[@redhippopotamus9144]

Holy crap it's you, your famous

[@nicholasabrahamsen6375]

The kings speech felt like it had been placed through a oscar bait generator and it felt like it would have been more interesting as a documentary

[@donjindra]

I thought it was a fantastic movie. It would not have worked well as a doc.

[@jamesatkinsonja]

I've always thought that. British Royalty-Check, WW2-Check, Overcoming a limitation-Check.

[@wobblertv8083]

The start of the exorcist in iraq is one of the most atmospheric starts to a movie ever .

[@Bucklestein]

There's just something about the sound design and mystery in that opening, it really leaves you with a sense of dread as to what's to come.

[@wobblertv8083]

@@Bucklestein I agree ,especially when father Merrin goes into the ruins .And comes face to face with pazuzu. And the dogs start fighting and you hear that eerie scream .That statue is terrifying .

[@ytcorporate9237]

Have to disagree on this, haha. I really like The Exorcist, but every time I watch it I have to skip the beginning. I feel like it's sortoff redundant as the movie works without it; then again, so is the introduction to Raiders of the Lost Ark.

[@TheGodlessGuitarist]

Absolutely agree. It is so eery and sets up the film beautifully.

[@unclenogbad1509]

Got a theory. When I first saw the Exorcist, I just thought it was a good horror film (NB, yes about the opening, but I had to watch it again to see how that related to the rest of it). Thing was, a lot of my mates thought it was the scariest thing ever, bringing out fears buried in the darker recesses of their psyche. Across the whole group, we soon worked out that the affected ones were all brought up as Catholics, with fear of the devil planted deep into them from a young age. Atheists like me, also attendant Proddies, just couldn't see it. A later interview with Max Von Sydow concluded much the same thing.

[@Bromley68]

I'm not a film nerd but only saw Citizen Kane about a year ago. I thought it was brilliant. It was a terrific story and every single scene looked like it had been crafted to perfection. I can see why people think it's the greatest film

[@JT29501]

This is definitely the best way to approach it and to see it, so often people are disappointed because they are told it is the "greatest film" and expect some sort of life shattering epic, huge and grandiose in scope.. It's just a well made and innovative film, made by a really talented young director. People should try and enjoy it on its own terms.

[@defundhollywood3259]

I love it, absolutely love it!

[@Intestine_Ballin-ism]

​@@JT29501 I watched it at 15 or 16, I just looked at the year it was made, and Welles' age at the time, and was entirely blown away just by those facts alone

[@Funeralapolis]

Dunkirk. Loved the cinematography and found its look very convincing, but it just seemed to say nothing about an event we all know very well. Just felt like 2 hours of scenes of ships sinking.

[@thomasmacisaac1503]

One of the problems with Dunkirk is it has no teeth; should have been rated R.

[@turn1210]

Only the spitfire scenes really did it for me, the rest I found dull

[@thomasmacisaac1503]

@@turn1210 yeah, I'd say the same. I liked the veeeerrry beginning until they get to the beach, the sinking boat scene and the spitfire sequences. The structure was inventive and probably the best part of the film, but yeah... no blood really robs the film of realism and impact.

[@xtrachrisb488]

Dunkirk was bad. That sound effect they used made it torture to watch.

[@aryankaushik93]

Yeah I respect your opinion. I used to think about that when my taste in films wasn't that mature

[@mrawesome669]

The Deer Hunter for me, I understand the power of its message and that so many love it for that but I just couldn't wait for it to be over.

[@reinforcedpenisstem]

Agreed.

[@douglasdea637]

Agreed. I've tried watching it at least twice and turn it off after the hour long wedding sequence.

[@mrawesome669]

@@douglasdea637 it's beyond excessive, always just felt meandering and without much narrative focus.

[@turn1210]

@@mrawesome669 yeah, it felt like three films randomly stitched together for me

[@DDChorror]

Oh man I LOVE the Deer Hunter. That scene where everyone is in a bar laughing and joking and having a good time until one of them plays a somber song on the piano and everyone goes quiet when they remember they're going off to war the next day. Then cut to vietnam and they're in a cage with rats biting their feet after being captured by the vietcong. Then we have the amazing Russian Roulette scene that has so much intensity and overwhelming tension. Christopher Walkins character who spends his life after the war trying to chase the high he felt in that moment. Amazing film

[@joshkkg1519]

Forrest Gump for me - It's undeniably a great film but it always has this feeling of false sentimentality that it really doesn't earn in my eyes.

[@limecat1986]

I love his journey through a very eventful couple of decades of American history. And I think the humour is brilliant as well as the original score.

[@amyclarke41]

oh i liked shawshank and green mile 😊

[@film79]

Is Forrest Gump well regarded in the UK? Its hated here in the US, it was sort of liked when it came out but quickly people turned on it after Gump won best picture over, i think, pulp fiction.

[@z-beeblebrox]

@@film79 In the UK I don't know what anyone's honest opinion of it is, but it still gets quoted here and there, so it left an impression. Although I think that's because it's eminently spoofable, rather than a comment on its quality.

[@phishwak]

It was the opposite for me - I hated it on first viewing but have loved it since then. Can't say why but I can also understand that it can be overly sentimental.

[@philkensebben2000]

For me a lot of people are misunderstanding the premise of the question. What film do you know is good but you personally don't connect with? Some people seem to think the question is what popular film is there that you personally hate?

[@CS-mo7xp]

D Lewis of course they are. distinguishing between personal taste and objective analysis is a concept way too subtle for most people to wrap their heads around.

[@vince__2k]

ridiculously late, this channel isn't even active anymore, but it probably has to be (most) of the hyper-acclaimed '94 films. The Shawshank Redemption, Leon the Professional, and Forrest Gump... I've never truly enjoyed 'em anywhere near as much as everyone else.

[@nunouno001]

I find 90% of Disney's library to be boring, dull, watered down material.

[@shaunpearson7905]

They killed Bambi's Mom dude have a heart!!

[@bobfat3879]

Baby driver for me. I was really looking forward to it and I left thinking that I've just watched a number of music videos that were very loosely connected, dunno if it was my expectations or the hype machine but disappointment is the only emotion I have for that one.

[@twoeggcups]

Miscast. Sounds great on paper, but only Jamie Foxx actually feels right in his role.

[@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747]

@twoeggcups I don't like the actor who plays the main role, he's also in the Carrie remake and is just as bad there. I hated how they killed off Jamie Foxx's character, he was by far the most interesting part of the movie.

[@clash5j]

Dunkirk. I didn't have much interest in watching, but saw Tarantino going on and on about how it was a masterpiece and gave it a watch. Love or hate Tarantino, but he knows movies. About 1/4 of the way I was thinking this has GOT to pickup. At the half way point, I realized I was watching a brilliantly made movie that was boring me to tears and doing absolutely nothing for me emotionally. I would watch Insomnia again before I watched Dunkirk

[@Exnavyjay]

You got mixed up, it was 1917 that Tarentino was championing. I’m not a war film buff but I found it amazing

[@TheDEATHSTARIII]

I don't think Samurai cop is as amazing as people say though it is a fine film

[@p1nkelephants]

I think Moonlight is masterfully made but I wouldn't watch it again.

[@lucanreynolds1341]

Agreed

[@AotearoaChef]

Yeh, I get what they were trying to do but I did not like it at all.

[@amyclarke41]

it was dull 😊

[@juliewake4585]

It’s wonderful.

[@matthewpaterson282]

I agree, Call Me By Your Name and Blue is the Warmest Colour are the romances I keep going back to. All three are films about life, but CMBYN and BWC are about loving life and enjoying life, while Moonlight has a lot of pain bottled up in it.

[@karaslam]

On the flip side. I think films: Toy Story (1995) & Memento (2000) will be even more highly regarded (move up the rankings) as film-making craftsmanship will plateau and films will be graded on execution of concepts.

[@vanessaheine8093]

I loved Citizen Kane. Endlessly inventive and so oddly moving.

[@Bartonovich52]

To me it’s right up there with a Shakespearean tragedy. He had everything in the world yet he longed for the one thing that he had when he had almost nothing...

[@justinszabo5205]

yeah it really holds up

[@tillerman7272]

I went in to it thinking it was going to be boring but it was brilliant

[@habiibqawiy7884]

Yep. Citizen Kane may perhaps just be the most profound piece of cinema ever filmed. It touches on universal themes and whatnot. Ultimately, it holds up so well to this day. Wow.

[@Bartonovich52]

There’s a whole pile of reasons why I think this tends to happen. 1) Overhype. People go in an genuinely see that these films are masterpieces. Then they go and tell everyone they know. Whether they be critics or friends. So then you go into it either with very high expectations and get let down... or you go in just to hate the movie to be contrarian or because you are genuinely sick of hearing about it. For me it was Grease (it’s a musical?), and the Rocky Horror Picture Show (it’s a musical, too?). 2) Accessibility. Lots of these great movies are cerebral. They don’t have excessive expositional dialogue and deal with very complex characters, emotions, and situations. You aren’t going to just sit down and watch the Godfather as a guilty pleasure like any Scorsese mob movie. Even Casino which has the same running time and lots of character development still has witty dialogue, expositional monologues, and that captivatingly fluid Scorsese cinematography sprinkled with a health dose of sex and violence to keep things moving. No, you have to plan to watch these. Like sipping an 18 year old Scotch or listening to Coltrane on vinyl. You want a darkened room, no interruptions, and no stray thoughts to take away from your experience. But in today’s time poor society it takes real effort. It’s just easier to drink Jack Daniels, stream a bunch of non-offensive bands you don’t care about on Spotify, or watch the latest movie with Will Ferrel or Jamie Foxx while barely looking up from your phone. 3) Ruined expectations. Mad Max was a B movie made on a laughably small budget. The Road Warrior was more ambitious but still had that same feel. Beyond Thunderdome brought it to its logical conclusion. What made them so awesome were the long periods of quiet. For long stretches.. no music, no dialogue. But it built tension and enhanced the forlorn nature of a post-apocalyptic word. It let the viewer fill in the blanks with their own thoughts and feelings. It had the same qualities that made Sergio Leone’s spaghetti westerns or David Lean’s historical epics so good. Fury Road had none of that. It was a Star Wars prequel in the Outback. You can’t think or feel because you can’t even process everything you are seeing and hearing. Other movies that ruined expectations were of course the Star Wars prequels and sequels, the Hobbit, the Matrix sequels, The Last Airbender, and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull among others.

[@michaelandrews117]

Apocalypse Now is mine. I have seen it three times to see whether I was missing something and just couldn't click with it. Shame to be honest, I never want to dislike a film.

[@LegoKaan117]

I was really excited to watch it but I found it to be missing something too and i was disappointed I didn’t like a film that nearly everyone loves so much

[@Gar96229]

To me Apocalypse Now is incredible. I respect that we have different tastes in film, but I feel a lot of people watch the film with the intention to see it as a war film, where as to me, it’s a horror film set during a war. It’s horrifying because everything you see is real.

[@AJARyan-yn2uv]

I’d say Fargo. Everything about it is good but I feel it’s a bit of a stretch with critics saying it’s one of the best ever made

[@kevinsoutham]

For me it’s another DDL film - There Will Be Blood. Lovely cinematography, great acting...and yet I have absolutely no yearning to see it again. If someone asked me what it was about, I’m not sure I’d be able to give a reply, let alone one that might encourage someone else to watch it.

[@deckofcards87]

I figured TWBB was an allegory on religion and capitalism, both the dominating foundations of America. I enjoy it, especially Day-Lewis' very vivid performance...although admittedly the ending fizzles off into an unnecessarily over-the-top climax... I get that even though Daniel's lost everything of Human value to him, he can still "beat" the false-prophet. But Paul Thomas Anderson had to make it literally a beating to death by bowling pin.

[@DDChorror]

@@deckofcards87 Well yeah, it may be allegorical but it still has to work on a face value level, he literally beats him to death because he's absolutely insane ar that point. Also he's killed before so it's not out of character for him

[@AnkitSharma-qm7sg]

Todd Haynes Carol is the one which perplexes me. All of my friends love it and I do admire it but that’s it with me. Kyle chandler is awesome though.

[@AngelEarth2011]

Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. Great cast. And that's about it. A mind numbing, bum numbing borefest.

[@parkviewmo]

Thank you! It is my favorite novel, but the recent film left me cold.

[@donnchaodalaigh4031]

Resurrected Cylon I was just going to write the exact same comment, I hated it after having huge expectations

[@mimijanjua]

Bang on!!! I hated it too but I loved the TV series

[@patavinity1262]

Yes the series was better. Apart from Alec Guiness in the role he was born for, it actually, you know, made sense.

[@shaunpearson7905]

A bottle of wine and some bum numbing sounds like a pretty good weekend

[@JCT1926]

Shawshank Redemption for me. I honestly think it's cliché. However, I watched The Shawshank Redemption multiple times as a small child, so it occurs to me that my conceptions of what a cliché prison drama is may have been forged by my experiences with the movie.

[@XavierKatzone]

Films are such a product of the time, when you saw them in relation to the time, and your age and experience, at first and later viewing.

[@PauLtus_B]

I'd like to mention Quentin Tarantino. I've found that with the more freedom he got the more he ended up directing great scenes instead of great films, I've really found most of his films a lot less than the sum of its parts, even though still enjoyable. He seems to make every bit as intense and grand as he can without much of notion of how it would fit in the rest of the film.

[@christophernason4307]

Yes Tarrantino, morally degenerate films.

[@PauLtus_B]

@@christophernason4307 Also probably true.

[@riynu7774]

". He seems to make every bit as intense and grand as he can '' i don't think that is a bad thing nor do i think if tarantino really does that way of filmaking. i would give that title to a lot of foreign directors who have brilliant film in that way of filmmaking.

[@riynu7774]

@@christophernason4307 that's just bommer brainrot taking place

[@questionitall3053]

The Exorcist is total genius!

[@owenhaskins7193]

Without the Godfather there would be NO Goodfellas! Goodfellas is a great film but the Godfather is a MASTERPIECE.

[@dylanmorgan2752]

Yeah I can understand where people are coming from though, being bored in the same sense as Lincoln. I love the film and the sequel now, but when I was a kid didn’t really want to re-watch them probably due to lack of attention span. Also I used to compare it to goodfellas a lot as well and try to understand why I liked one more than the other, I think I saw goodfellas as a bit more true to life, being based off a real biography and also showing mobsters as nutty, paranoid, murderous comedians with substance dependencies and shit fashion sense was on the money I thought and if anything was inspiration for the Sopranos as well. However now knowing a bit more about history also I also see Godfather a bit more based in reality as well. Used to find it ridiculous how a family of mobsters could become one of the richest and powerful dynasties in America, but then I learnt about how the Kennedy family made their money from bootlegging plus a lot of other wealthy families did the same.

[@azmodanpc]

Godfather Part II achieved something that few movies did: Being better than the first one (IMHO).

[@hexipolar8158]

Godfather part 2 and goodfellas are both in my top 10 films of all time. The Godfather is a great film and inspired almost every subsequent crime film but it pales in comparison to the other two films.

[@Rob_-dv6ei]

azmodanpc I really believe Goodfellas is a masterpiece, exactly tied with Godfather 2. It’s a gritty, no nonsense look at gangster enforcers from a genius man who grew up surrounded by them. The first 2 Godfathers are incredible in every way, and I mean every way - however I really think in terms of relatability, Liotta, De Niro and Pesci’s endless charm combined with Scorsese’s direction tops both of the movies.

[@HauntedHarmonics]

@@hexipolar8158 Probably a controversial opinion but I think Godfather pt 1 is the better movie, and Goodfellas is good but not a masterpiece. The Godfather without Brando is like PB without J. Its missing a key ingredient. I still love part 2 though.

[@TheSpotlessMind93]

I'll have to go with Dunkirk and I'm a huge Nolan fan. It just didn't work for me. Maybe cause most of his movies are intricately plotted that this just felt like one long action scene in comparison. The interwoven "storylines" we're not as impressive as everyone else thinks. The threat of the enemy Germans never feels real or urgent. I watched it three times and it never grew on me.

[@brendancronin4786]

Julio Inoa I agree I was highly disappointed with dunkirk

[@zigsterabs7439]

Saltire Nah interstellar is much better than Dunkirk

[@ataru4]

I agree, Dunkirk was disappointing. The amazing significance of the Dunkirk evacuation was the scale of it. There was absolutely no sense of that in Nolan's film, just 20 guys milling about on a beach, 2 spitfires and a handful of civilian boats. I can understand, to some extent, Nolan's penchant for doing everything in camera with no CGI but if you make that decision you have to invest in actors, extras, vehicles etc. Directors managed scale years ago with no CGI; Cleopatra, Ben Hur, 10 Commandments, Spartacus and many others

[@Sh1nyday]

I found it a dull film!!

[@GeneticallyMortified]

I watched it in the cinema and can't remember anything about it

[@nunatak123]

Interstellar for me. I like most of Nolan's films, but for me this was an overblown vanity project with boring characters, a wafer-thin story and ridiculous dialogue ("My love with Murph...it IS quantifiable" :-/). The film tries so hard to be clever too - the multi-dimensional bookcase, or whatever the hell it was supposed to be, was the point where Nolan royally disappeared up his own arse. I feel critics give Nolan a green-pass on whatever he does - and yes, whilst he has made some brilliant films, I felt with Interstellar the critics praised it simply because he directed it.

[@MachineFuckingHate]

Interstellar is Nolan's worst reviewed film to date. It got B- from most critics, including Kermode. So it doesn't fit here, because the movie was divisive.

[@nunatak123]

EgocentricHead it. Clearly does fit here. It a critics wet dream that ignores all its flaws.

[@MachineFuckingHate]

nunatak123, no, it clearly doesn't, as the title of the video says "Great Films You Don’t Like." Interstellar was always a divisive movie and was never universally considered to be great. And critics were very lukewarm towards it. It's the worst reviewed film by Nolan, as I said.

[@zigsterabs7439]

EgocentricHead It got an 8.6/10 on IMDb and 4/5 on Letterboxd U can dislike interstellar all u want but the majority of people think highly of that movie

[@zigsterabs7439]

EgocentricHead Also, Nolan’s worst reviewed film is following

[@QuietBatperson96]

I wasn't particularly keen on Dunkirk when it came out. The different time frames were confusing, the characters were undeveloped, and it felt like it was dumbing down the real life horror of WWII to appeal to wider audience. Maybe it's just Christopher Nolan, as I also didn't like Inception, which I thought was a boring and incomprehensible film based on a promising idea. The Revenant, on the other hand, I genuinely hated. Poorly developed characters and completely unintelligible dialogue (which left me clueless as to what was happening) ruined it for me. What I saw on screen was a couple of hours of Leonardo DiCaprio trudging through snow and occasionally going "NNNNNNGH!" Even the cinematography couldn't save it -- the beautiful shots of the American wilderness would be far better served in a nature documentary. And then, after everything has (apparently) been resolved, it sort of just... ends.

[@ramonecricket5183]

Mate, you've echoed my thoughts perfectly about these 3 films.

[@greva2904]

Inception and Interstellar. Christopher Nolan seems to specialise in making films even longer and duller than his previous ones, no matter how interesting the initial concept. For me, he’s turned into a really boring director.

[@lukethomas1985]

I thought the godfather was overrated the first time I see it and preferred number 2. I've watched the godfather half a dozen times now and adore it, some films take more than one viewing for some

[@kirind.dragon1901]

@@mabusestestament me on first watch thought that. But multiple watching grew on me

[@TheNollaigo]

the big lebowski; i just don't get it watched it 3 times have it on blu ray; what am i missing?

[@BigAL0074]

Nothing it is an average film.

[@sdolman79]

I agree

[@juliewake4585]

nollaigo kelly nothing. Tedious.

[@FrogambassadorBlogspotted]

just has to click with you i think. the way the editing, line deliveries and music interweave has a very unique vibe that really scratches an itch for me.

[@discharge29]

same here

[@Syklonus]

I think the general public fails to recognise the difference between not liking something and not appreciating it. There are plenty of films I don't really like, but I still hugely appreciate. For example, I find Citizen Kane really boring, but I appreciate and knowledge it's place in cinema history, and I think it's well deserved. Also, I think people channel too much of their insecurities into liking or disliking a movie. Subjectivity is lost on them, and anyone with a different opinion is seen as a personal attack, because it makes them question their choice, and they need the validation of others agreeing. Proof of this can be seen in the endless butthurting about Like/Dislike ratios on KZbin. I tend to follow these guidelines: - It's ok to like an objectively bad movie - It's ok to dislike a popular movie - There's nothing wrong with being "Quite good". Not everything has to be mind blowing. Everything else is cream cheese!

[@aristotelispapageorgiou4627]

What about the opposite? Bad films that we love!

[@McSuperfly101]

The remake of Flight of the Phoenix. I know it’s a load of old schlock but for some reason I just always find it really watchable.

[@jumbo4billion]

Any film with a Predator regardless of how bad, even alien v predator.

[@rossmorton7002]

The 80's "classic" Monster Squad.

[@z-beeblebrox]

That list is too long!!!

[@Onmysheet]

White House Down, Movie 43

[@therealsulaco]

This is the heart of an issue that I am constantly fighting for: that "I liked it" is not the same thing as "it was good" and vice-versa. It's okay to like a bad film and to not like a good one. It really is.

[@KC_Streams]

@@mabusestestament I like both daddy's home films. I find them charming, funny in a delightfully stupid way, and the fact the second one is about Christmas makes me enjoy it because I love Christmas. But I don't consider either to be good films.

[@luke-alex]

The Dark Knight anyone? I'm actually a fan of a number of other Nolan films especially Interstellar, but I thought this was just okay

[@FordaAnt]

I'm the opposite. Thought that Interstellar was kinda like meh while The dark night is probably my favourite movie.

[@pr0jectSkyneT]

Interstellar is probably Nolan's worst film. I was hyped before I saw it on cinema and even watched Sunshine by Danny Boyle as a primer. Then having actually watched Interstellar I was so disappointed by the predictable and lazy twist and it even copied the worst part of Sunshine which Nolan actually admitted.

[@TequilaToothpick]

I hated Interstellar.

[@russellb5573]

Interstellar disappointed me and have to admit that, I've struggled to rewatch The Dark Knight a couple of times. I just couldn't get through it!

[@josephde-haan1074]

Have not liked anything made by Nolan since Batman Begins. People really get upset when I say the Dark Knight is meh and they often turn to Heath Ledger's Joker which I completely agree with. However a masterful performance does not a good movie make.

[@crowlikethebird]

a midnight in paris is a huge one for me. i honestly don’t get a single thing out of the film and it astonishes me how it has a 3.7 on letterboxd

[@Wrolffe]

Same! It honestly just feels like the room but with a higher budget. Very masturbatory.

[@ellenspear50]

Fellini's 8 1/2. I'm familiar with it mostly through the musical version of it, Nine, but I still can't find a way to grasp this film maker's work.

[@habiibqawiy7884]

Agree. Very confusing film. Sometimes I couldn't follow what was going on in it..

[@scooterjss]

The Shining. There's so much I can appreciate about the movie in terms of visual craft and atmosphere building, but Jack Nicholson is basically doing an over-the-top Jack Nicholson impression, and knowing everything that Kubrick put Shelley Duvall through really sours the experience for me.

[@joerosenfield7145]

There is a documentary made by Kubricks wife about the making of the shining (it was an extra on the DVD, you may have seen it) and there was a clip of Shelley Duvall in tears, shaking and frantically smoking a cigarette because of the absolute hell that Kubrick had put her through, all in aid of getting a certain kind of performance out of her. Kubrick is one of my favourite film makers but I did find this a little brutal to say the least.

[@themysteriouscatperson9483]

I think it’s because these films are very hyped, so when you watch them you kinda except more

[@MrDaddynomates]

Bladerunner. Yes it's amazing visually. It changed scifi for the better. The soundtrack is amazing. The characters are amazing. But, i get bored watching it. I feel like i should love it. I'm glad it was made because scifi is better because of it. But sorry, it doesn't float my boat when i watch it. I'll get my coat.

[@Davey0112]

Blade Runner 2049 pips it I think. (I'll get my coat too).

[@akiratheastronaut]

Let's grab our coats together and meet at the pub. Where we can also discuss how Pink Floyd are great, but also boring. And if you don't agree, that's ok, I'll grab my coat and go to the other pub.

[@johnparke5880]

Chris no no no no so wrong .

[@frankmerker630]

Roy batty is the only amazing character in it, everyone else is a flatline

[@richardconnold8060]

I saw BLADE RUNNER on its opening weekend, in London, at the A.B C. Shaftesbury Avenue (in six-track magnetic and 70mm), in September, 1982. I was amazed then, and I'm just as amazed, now. 2049 is nothing but a poor, poor monochrome Xerox of a masterpiece.

[@ShreeNation]

The Shining. Like I get it, you're losing it Jack, writing the same sentence over and over, and the hotel has some cool visuals for ghosts. Great. Didn't put me on the edge of my seat like it did for others and when he literally froze to death in the end I just had to sit there and go "what are we doing here, this is it?".

[@travellingshoes5241]

Give it another try in a few years maybe? You might look at it differently. I love putting the fire on, closing the curtains, dimming the lights and cosying up inside the Overlook Hotel with the Torrances for a couple of hours every other year.

[@lennonacid]

The Big Lebowski is beyond horrible and beyond redemption. There, I said it.

[@Cloudrim]

2001: A Space Odyssey. I love Kubrick, but (HAL aside) it's one of the most ponderous, self-indulgent and tedious films I've ever seen. Was incredible to watch in the cinema, mind.

[@samthemac17]

Yeah, I never got on with it either. Found it incredibly boring. Didn't think much of Barry Lyndon either, to be honest. Paths of Glory and Full Metal Jacket? Love.

[@MikeMJPMUNCH]

I never got Boyhood had an interesting idea behind it, of shooting a film over 11 years to show the actors actually growing up in the roles, but the story was boring, the characters were uninteresting and I believe if the film hadn't been filmed over such a long period people wouldn't have been as impressed by it. Also The Deer Hunter, Gone With The Wind and Apocalypse Now are films I found were a slog to get through, I was actually more interested in how those films were made and their troubled production history like the documentary on Apocalypse Now, Heart of Darkness was brilliant.

[@MikeMJPMUNCH]

Actually I have seen his other films and really liked them which just added to my disappointment with Boyhood.

[@Sleepgarden]

but it took 12 years to make! it broke new ground!

[@dylanmorgan2752]

Apocalypse now is meant to be inherently psychological, so I just figured like the boat going down stream you just have to follow the different colours in each mad world before it descends into absolute chaos, can see why people wouldn’t like it though. Deer hunter I can agree with as well, but I also enjoy a lot of different parts of it and the character arcs are obviously 3 dimensional and very well done. Which I suppose is where it gets most of its praise as a war film of course as it’s entire point is to make a point of how war changes everyone and everything, even the people who never actually went like Meryl Streep. There’s a lot to pick apart in that film so I can’t slag it off although I don’t really go back to it for entertainment factor. Gone with the wind is just a piece of shit film in general, even if you like those super old over the top movies. The book and its approach to the subject matter can be seen as reprehensible at best, surprise the first movie for a black person to win an Oscar was fairly sympathetic to Southern slavery.

[@apseudonym]

Plot was never the goal for Boyhood, its strengths lie in the dedication it takes to make a film over 12 years. It's about literally watching someone grow up before your eyes.

[@apseudonym]

The Deer Hunter has terrible sound editing. I enjoy the movie but the audio is ridiculously bad.

[@callumdonington2227]

2001 for me. Looked incredible, the part with HAL was really interesting, but I never got the hype.

[@aidan7089]

I think its a super philosophical film more than anything, it doesn’t make you feel for any of the characters or there story but rather the purpose and mundanity of their actions in the day to day, who’s right who’s wrong? The ultimate purpose of whether you blindly follow and complete a task or pursue the human side of questioning it, and to speak to the final moment between Hal and I forget which astronaut where we suddenly see those roles switch as Hal begs against the unrelenting human drive to shut him off is a wonderful dynamic that always leaves me lost in thought

[@simeonteitelbaum3673]

Same here

[@josephde-haan1074]

Just came to confirm this Kubrick classic was in the comments section. Now let's se if I can find Bladerunner?

[@wjdyr]

@@josephde-haan1074 bladerunner is great and very fun to watch, so no it doesnt belnog in the comment section.

[@josephde-haan1074]

@@wjdyr Calm ya skates you maniac. It's in the comment section multiple times? Jeez breathe.

[@jxomxo]

Tarkovsky is my all-time favorite filmmaker but I can definitely understand someone not getting into his work; it does ask a lot of its viewers. However, those who dismiss his work as “pretentious” “meaningless” and mostly “boring” need to understand that they are not giving his films the time of day. There is so much love and care put into his films to just dismiss. I’d much rather hear criticism about his form and what may not work about it, than someone writing it off because they got nothing else better to do.

[@blaksu]

If there's one of his I enjoyed less than the others, it was Stalker, while still recognising its quality. Unlike Solaris which I think fulfilled its potential, Stalker left me frustrated.

[@jxomxo]

@@blaksu I'm sorry that's how you feel about it. Stalker is one of my first loves in film and rewatches have only made my love for it grow. I have since seen all of his features and I personally don't think there's a single dud there, with Rublev being my most loved. But each to their own.

[@blaksu]

@@jxomxo Maybe I should see it again, now that a few years have passed it might effect me differently. I might watch Solaris again too and compare, if they can be compared

[@iandavies2298]

The Deer Hunter for me. Watched it for the first time recently and wanted to tear my hair out. Blimey charlie what a drag of a film...

[@sdolman79]

@John wayne no it isn't

[@sinkthebounty122]

@@sdolman79 it is a masterpiece

[@Slowdived80]

the more you watch it you start to appreciate the first 3rd of the movie.. so when it goes tits up in Nam you actually give shit about the characters most notably Christopher Walken's character. Its not an easy watch on first viewing but gets better and better over the years. It did for me. But its not everyone's cuppa tea.

[@z0uLess]

This just reminds us that experience is something that you can never really pin down.

[@jonathanowen4075]

I actually feel this way about 'Vertigo' and love 'Citizen Kane' (though 'The Trial' and 'Touch of Evil' mean more to me personally).

[@byebyelove2719]

Vertigo doesn't do much for me either

[@Leonards-leopard]

Totally disagree but you like touch of evil, so you get a thumbs up

[@habiibqawiy7884]

Vertigo has such a disorienting effect on me. Like, I'm gradually being lulled into this vortex of building tension throughout the movie.

[@GenuineEarlGrey]

Am I picking up a theme here: Feeling vs thinking and feeling is winning. I'm hearing "I'll decide it's not great because I don't like how it makes me feel".

[@flybeep1661]

The Goodfellas over Godfather movie, I was like that too. I preferred Goodfellas way over Godfather. But as I grew up, especially past 30 and having watched the movies multiple times that opinion changed completely. Godfather tops Goodfellas no question.

[@Daniel-ng7oe]

Take the Godfather, leave the Goodfellas. Just kidding, take both.

[@EmoBearRights]

Someone once said they're about different parts of the Mafia. The Godfather's about the top, Goddfellas is about the bottom. That made a lot of sense to me. They also said Casino was about the middle tier of the Mafia.

[@thescottishaccent]

Coming in here very late to this, but Fellini's "8 1/2" for me. I watched it, and the look and feel of it was incredible - a beautiful, beautiful movie. But it just felt like a chore to get through, and while I'm not averse to the surreal, it just didn't land with me at all. I think the fact that the dubbing sync with the actors' lips (I know the reason why, btw) also just threw me off a lot. I'm glad I watched it, and I recognise the massive influence it's had on cinema... but I'd never go near it again.

[@mikeymichael9991]

Never cared for it either ... just to boring and tedious ... nights of calibria is a brilliant film , so is la strada ..

[@Hritik9000]

8 and 1/2 is the most entertaining Greatest film ever.

[@robinmittner4303]

For me that has always been There will be blood. Hard to explain why.

[@davidabraham5776]

My first thought when I read the title

[@dylanbuckle114]

Correct! There Will Be Blood, is irritating and overblown.

[@GrosvnerMcaffrey]

@@dylanbuckle114 it's ment to be a character study but I feel it tries to hard to be artsy

[@hectormclector9879]

The godfather it insists upon itself

[@OnboardG1]

Fight Club I think. Well made, beautiful performances and great visual flair. Unfortunately its underlying nihilism makes my skin crawl. It has also become the touchstone for a generation of toxic manchildren which isn’t its fault but still...

[@PureNightfall]

As a teenager, I loved that film but the older you get the more you realize it has very weak pop philosophy holding it up.

[@apseudonym]

I read somewhere that Edward Norton wanted to make the film a lot more self-aware and satirical, but ultimately clashed with David Fincher who was convinced that audiences would get the irony. Guess he was wrong?

[@simeonteitelbaum3673]

@Nick Mitchell Terrible ending ruins the film. Cheap, lazy cop-out posturing

[@TequilaToothpick]

@Nick Mitchell The twist isn't the point of the movie.

[@DandyLion662a]

From the comments, some I agree with are 2001, Shawshank Redemption, Chinatown, Dances With Wolves, Bergman films, Blade Runner and Boyhood. Most of these I liked at the time but can't imagine ever seeing them again. Surprised to see Apocalypse Now, Dr. Strangelove and The Godfather getting mentions. They hold up well to repeat viewing for me.

[@DDChorror]

I could watch 2001 and Shawshank any day of the week

[@D34DParadise]

A film I never got into was Trainspotting. I think it is very stylish and uses music to great effect but in the end I didn’t care about what happened to the characters.

[@doovbaloevera1430]

Each to their own but it's one of my favourites. Your comment made me think though. I can't say I really care for the characters, just enjoy the insight into that nihilistic lifestyle. Some great set pieces in that film.

[@catsrule1343]

Roma is a beautiful and emotional film but I just couldn't get into it and ngl I was counting the minutes until it was over in the last half hour

[@illiteratethug3305]

Scanners reference at 1:30, which Mark mispronounces (How could you Mark?!!)

[@daftyfunky]

Blade Runner - but I only watched it once. I hope I like it better the second time like I did with There Will Be Blood.

[@Iggy3]

I didn't like Blade Runner after first viewing but after a couple more it became one of my favorites

[@luke-alex]

I definitely need to watch more films more than once!

[@christophernason4307]

Blade Runner: incoherence run riot.

[@josephde-haan1074]

I have watched it many times over the years to see if I could understand why people hold it in such reverence and never have but after watching it so many times I have really come to sppreciate its visual aesthetic.

[@twoeggcups]

I don’t think Blade Runner benefits from hype, I feel it’s a film that you need to discover by yourself if that makes any sense. For me it’s a film about slavery, but other people seem to interpret it differently.

[@bolerotenebris543]

Good, Bad and the Ugly... the first two (Fistful of dollars and For a few dollars more) are tolerable to some extent, but GBU is mind-numbing. Clint & Don Siegel is the combination that makes a quality and bad-ass film.

[@twoeggcups]

A Clockwork Orange. I find it almost unwatchable, despite its brilliance.

[@sarahmillard6401]

I totally agree, and I’m a huge Kubrick fan. I watched it once and would never want to watch it again, although whether that has to do with the sheer repugnance of certain scenes or not, I can’t say.

[@catweasle5737]

I am amazed Eraser Head by David Lynch, didn't get a mention. Fantastic movie. One of the most bizarre movies I have ever seen, but I love it.

[@GrosvnerMcaffrey]

That movie gives me existential problems

[@stevebrizzle]

‘In heaven, everything is fine...’

[@GA-1st]

Couldn't agree more about "Shawshank." Also "Fury Road," and "Lincoln." "Raging Bull" is another.

[@Debagio]

Shawshank Redemption. I cannot get on with this at all. I found it over-long and mawkish.

[@SeanD1995]

Annie Hall bored me to tears. But enough people, many of them more learned than myself, love it, so I understand that I must be missing something.

[@jamesbaxterfromax]

Steven Soderburg's version is actually so pretentious and acts all deep and profound like the original but with barely a handful of substance

[@peanderston]

2001 A Space Odyssey . Saw it twice fell asleep both times.

[@habiibqawiy7884]

Perseverance is the key for 2001. If you do, it's often a very rewarding experience in a sort of metaphysical way :)

[@Rog5446]

The best film of all time has yet to be made.

[@tsb3093]

Well when it is it will have to be better than The English Patient.

[@absolutespider3532]

More recent examples for me are Lady Bird, Moonlight, The Handmaiden, and Mad Max: Fury Road. All films that I feel are very well made, but all fail to grab me that much on an emotional, visceral, or intellectual level, at least not on the level as most critics were it seems.

[@petelawd9648]

2001 a space odyssey for me. I love the craftsmanship that's gone in to making it, it is a way ahead of it's time! However I also find it a bit dull and over pretentious at times. Please don't hate lol

[@stalkek]

Very little to connect with emotionally about it for me.

[@habiibqawiy7884]

I totally understand, though it's my favourite movie ever..

[@jayr8134]

Stalker, The English patient, Eraserhead, The Last Jedi, It follows and many more

[@willthomas2310]

The last Jedi is a very decisive movie tho. That movie sparked a lot of controversy, in the star wars community.

[@slapmyfunkybass]

Breakfast at Tiffany’s. It’s one of those films you always hear about. Eventually I got round to watching it and was like..... really???

[@doovbaloevera1430]

As I recall I think, we both kind of liked it.

[@Bartonovich52]

I just watched it and absolutely loved it.

[@Secretname807]

@@doovbaloevera1430 well that's the one thing we've got

[@topologyrob]

Some very cringeworthy fake Japanese moments

[@stevebrizzle]

Completely agree with the OP. I found Breakfast at Tiffany’s to be incredibly vapid, becoming offensive anytime Mickey Rooney was on screen in his cringe-inducing yellow-face routine. I’m astounded the movie has gained the reputation of a classic.

[@johndeming4015]

2001: A Space Odyssey. I respect it more than I enjoy it for sure.

[@luke-alex]

That's the one that came to mind for me also

[@benjamincook6321]

I always think of Jane Campion as like thirty years old for some reason, it always blows my mind to hear that she's been working for thirty plus years.

[@purpleaki06]

Big Lebowski and Taxi Driver spring to mind

[@Up-jh6ye]

Nolans batman in fact many of his movies i would put in this category

[@AnthonyFlack]

I feel the opposite way about Shawshank Redemption - I think it's very enjoyable to watch but I wouldn't call it a great film.

[@BigAL0074]

I agree, not sure why people get so worked up about this film. The green mile is better.

[@apseudonym]

I love Tim Robbins as an actor but Shawshank is nowhere near my favourite of his films.

[@Dabhach1]

Absolutely ANYTHING by David Lean with the single exception of Hobson's Choice.

[@velox5598]

Lawerence of Arabia? That was a Lean film btw

[@theovann-leeds953]

High Rise. It’s stunning, the soundtrack is amazing and the editing is phenomenal, but half way though it all goes crazy, for no real reason.

[@dsmyify]

Theo Leeds ~ have a feeling the book was better. It's a political statement about the collapse of a society as represented by the tower block. It was a weird movie and disappointing.

[@theovann-leeds953]

Travis Spazz You should, it challenged me and I kinda like that from a film!

[@theovann-leeds953]

johnulcer Don’t recall saying it was a masterpiece nor does the title of the video imply that the films have to be masterpieces. But I know it divided people. I didn’t like it but really respect it.

[@patavinity1262]

dsmyify Well it's a weird book too. It's J. G. Ballard, everything he did was weird.

[@brendancronin4786]

Theo Leeds I got totally bored with high rise.its one of them films where you think your missing something cos of the rave reviews but your not I just got bored

[@AotearoaChef]

I love how film is subjective, one of my work colleagues told me Chappie is their favourite film which to me is just insane as I hate the movie with a passion. But hey, it doesn't affect me. I just won't ever take a recommendation from them lol

[@McSuperfly101]

TheHurricaneJedi - I wanted to like Chappie but it’s so hard when you just want virtually _all_ the characters to die an agonising death.

[@AotearoaChef]

McSuperfly yeh, nailed it on the head

[@justinstephenson9360]

Fargo: I recently rewatched it, and it just didn't do it for me whereas Oh Brother Where Art Thou completely enthralled and amused me. Fahrenheit 451 again recently rewatched it and it was not nearly as good as remembered it - the fact that Oskar Werner and Francois Truffaut famously did not get on may well be the cause of why the film does not entirely work although I think Oskar's performance is entirely appropriate for the story

[@philrobinson5667]

I’ve thought long and hard over this and I’m aware that a lot of cinema devotees will be annoyed/bemused/angry with my decision...but for me it has to be the British classic ‘Holiday on the Buses’. I know...and I’m sorry but I’m afraid that although the performances are all superb with a subliminal plot, it just doesn’t ‘do it’ for me.

[@klisher]

I'll get you Butler!! 😀

[@kailashbalanperiasamy1921]

Lawrence of Arabia It is really hard to connect with the lead character when it undergoes a mental breakdown at the end due to macabre of war since David lean never showed the gruesomeness and bloodshed when war happens onscreen...and extreme slow pacing. Only thing gud abt it was the cinematography in it. Close encounter of the third kind...I need to blame my expectation here..I thought the aliens gonna cause some serious trouble at the end but they chose to conduct piano lessons to a bunch humans.

[@FormerHumanX]

The original Solaris is actually a 1968 black and white film. Tarkovsky's was the second version.

[@derekmatzek9551]

In my heart of hearts, my movie for this list couldn’t be any other film than There Will Be Blood, I’m sorry

[@JohnMoseley]

Same. Also, Magnolia. Although I'm not sure it's even a good film really.

[@dylanmorgan2752]

John Moseley Magnolia is a bit like a break up song, great when your depressed but I haven’t really watched it since then. I’m pretty sure the acting and PT Anderson’s cinematography definitely hold up no matter what though. Story is interesting as well if you normally enjoy loads of short stories intersecting and colliding.

[@JohnMoseley]

@@dylanmorgan2752 You're right on the acting and cinematography, of course, but I don't agree on the story, though I do like the comparison with a break up song. As songs go, it's basically, 'Everybody hurts' - the movie. It's trite, sentimental and reductive. For intersecting stories, I'll take Altman every day, e.g. Short Cuts, which came out around the same time - intersecting stories that actually show something of the rich variety of human experience and personality.

[@dylanmorgan2752]

John Moseley I mean imo it still showed a huge amount of diversity in the characters and their lives and motivations, the lack of diversity would be on the emotional spectrum, since like you said yourself it’s only really trying to showcase one emotion of sadness and despair. Plus I just can’t go off on PT Anderson purely for being a bit depressing and miserable, otherwise I’m gonna have to start saying all of Polanskis movies are terrible too.

[@unklemunky8992]

First time I watched Brazil I was absolutely ripped to the tits on a robust dose of magic mushrooms. Watched it stone cold sober too & it's just as good either way. Just as batshit crazy as well.

[@omnishambles4477]

I literally fell asleep in the cinema watching Lincoln

[@estuchedepeluche2212]

I felt that way about 2001: A Space Odyssey; it was smart, weird, eye popping but too damn slow. Also, Good Time and Lighthouse, those last two with Robert Pattinson, interestingly.

[@mikeboosh8776]

me too - it's just boring.

[@kealanover7359]

It occurred to while watching this video that I've never seen The Piano. Now I have and I quite enjoyed it. Would really like to know why you don't like it though.

[@eddyjuillerat835]

Theses critics need to understand that emotions are not the greater good in cinema. Emotions are temporary and always changing. Great movies ARE NOT emotional: they are instinct, guts, deep meaning often buried into the unconscious. They stay forever. That's why great films takes time to emerge into the conscious, then we see the masterpieces they really are. Once we see the deep human meaning of them, we can't forget and love them each view more.

[@travellingshoes5241]

Emotions are nice as well though.

[@lorcanmacken4882]

Has to be bladerunner for me

[@GiantSandles]

I find Clockwork Orange pretty much unwatchable despite liking Kubrick's other stuff (I don't massively like 2001 either but I can at least sit through it)

[@Onmysheet]

Clockwork Orange is the only Kubrick movie that hasn't aged well.

[@BradHominem]

Yes, it's a fantastically made exploitation movie. It's perfect.

[@bucknorman2897]

GiantSandles ur totally right about clockwork orange, I understand the themes it’s trying to portray but it does it poorly. 2001 on the other hand I think is a masterpiece

[@FirstPlace97]

You are all wrong. A Clockwork Orange is the father of modern films. Without it, there would be no Taxi Driver, No De Palma, no Gaspar Noe, no Nicholas Refn, etc. You idiots!

[@foxybingo1112]

GiantSandles I think one of the things I enjoy about it is how badly its aged

[@tsubasawingsresevoir]

The Shape of Water. I admire Del Toro’s work from The Devil’s Backbone to Pan’s Labyrinth to Pinocchio but I never understood why The Shape of Water out bested Get Out, Lady Bird, Call Me by your Name, Dunkirk, The Florida Project, and Blade Runner 2049 back in 2017.

[@edwardv9989]

Tarkovsky is amazing. The Mirror is one of my all time favorite films.

[@jhwalsh93]

Surprised 2001 didn't come up on this list. I myself think it is a masterpiece but I can see why someone could, while admiring it as a technical achievement, find it overly long, boring, convoluted, self endulgent and pretentious.

[@10msplits]

100% agree. Kubrick left the ending open to interpretation because it didn't feel like he had an idea of what he was even going for. Not sure why this uncertainty is confused for depth

[@colonelweird]

That's definitely my reaction to 2001 - but I react the same way to all Kubrick's films. It's a strange experience to recognize a film's genius while feeling nothing about it. But I haven't seen Barry Lyndon yet - it's so beautiful in the clips I've seen that I really want to like it.

[@jhwalsh93]

@@10msplits I mean I do love 2001 and I believe it rightly sits a place as one of the best films ever made. But... I can certainly see how it wouldn't be for everyone. And that's fine. Personally I love the ending, the final 20 minutes are astounding. The culmination of over two hours of this almost hypnotic experience coming to its ultimate climax. Appropriate that it came out in 1968 as its about as close as anyone has got to having an acid trip being put to film. Whether Kubrick truly knew what it all meant or not, and something being ambiguous and open to interpretation is not a bad thing in my mind, the result is incredible.

[@mistym8392]

I can’t love 2001. I can admire it, I can appreciate it and I understand why others love it, I just can’t feel it.

[@MsColl90]

Misty M agree. I have to say, to my shame, I crept out of the cinema an hour into it....and have never returned,

[@habiibqawiy7884]

I totally understand, though it's my favourite movie ever..

[@jandekker6008]

I came at Citizen Kane through film studies. I read so much about it before the course started that I felt I knew it back to front before I even saw it. So I suppose my reaction to it is framed and preconditioned by that hype, albeit an academic kind of hype. Even so, I loved it and still do. I guess it's a film studies favourite because there's so much to look at and think about, whether it's film making technique, storytelling technique, genre or the role of 'auteur' (Welles was given carte blanche to do what he wanted. No one got that in Hollywood studios, and he never would again). Amid all that noise, does the emotional heart of the film get smothered? I don't think so, but can see why some think it does.

[@UnmistakableSoundOf]

I have to say it didn't do anything for me... I saw it for the first time last year. I knew it was a classic but didn't know much about it, although I'd been told the answer to the mystery about "Rosebud" some years ago. I had high expectations, but by the end it felt like a story with a big scope over a long period of time that didn't seem to say very much. I don't know anything about film studies or any of the analyses of the film, but on watching it from a cold start, I just didn't get it. I understood what happened, I just didn't get the point. Maybe an academic study is needed to get any meaning out of it. Maybe I just like my films slightly more obvious...