Did BOXABL Really Just Announce a $20k PREFAB HOME!? (Baby Box)

[@mikekim6155]

I ordered 2 casitas in 2020 or 2021. I was one of the first ones I think. I paid $200 deposit for the price of $49500 and $1000 for a reduced price of & $45000. I finally heard back from them a few months ago to start building my units. However, they could not honor the price they promised. I said fine, I'll pay $60k each. And then they told me I had to use one of the installers who will typically charge me around $80k-$100k to install each unit. That means to have a 720sf home, it will cost me a potential total of $320k. My lot cost me $200k in rural California. So the total cost for a 720sf home would be $520k? Homes in that area goes for about $400/sf as of September 2024 which means my house will be worth less than $300k after spending $520k? No thank you. I decided to hire a local contractor who is building a 1200 sf home for a lot less than boxabl. I highly doubt that Boxabl will last very long. Who would want to build a matchbox looking esthetically lacking tiny home that would cost more than building a much bigger and better looking one?

[@NoodleSchnoodle]

I put a deposit on a unit also back in 20-21. I have not heard from them except trying to solicit me to invest in their company. Now I am sure I won't get it for $50k. I thought they were a scam when they keep sending me marketing email when they have not deliver. Thanks for your comment. Now I know for a fact.

[@tibedog5629]

@@NoodleSchnoodle Same thing happened to a friend, they bought a small plot in our home town, went with this company. Next thing you know they said "hey, we're about to start on yours but we got to change the price to $75k" and said exactly what the above person said, gotta use one of their installers meaning their supposed cheap unit suddenly became about $210k, which would instantly drop in value due to the area he would have put it in. So he cancelled.

[@liebekatz1]

😮😮😮😮

[@twistedhillbilly6157]

NO they didn't..... You are in the land of make-believe.. Maybe you are getting paid to do this.

[@igorsrecords5185]

Try Azure Printed Homes

[@shootermcgavin4999]

They haven't even delivered the original box able yet.

[@rule1capital]

9 sales in 2023 and 1H 2024 (18 months)... Burned nearly $150 million to date

[@CleanDesign_]

@@rule1capital The output and sales are pathetic, but $150 million is nothing. A startup this size undertaking a task and project of this scale could easily burn in the ball park of 1 billion... per year.

[@unfoldyourhome]

Contact us, and we can get you homes in under 60 days.

[@__WJK__]

@ShooterMcGavin4999 - Tell you know nothing about BOXABL, without actually telling us you know nothing about BOXABL, lol

[@MegaSnail1]

I already have a mini home with the same layout as Boxabl and I love it. It was built by a builder in the Pacific Northwest and purchased by me for 23,000 around 15 years ago. I hope Boxabl will be able to keep their price that low. It will be a game changer for our housing crisis.

[@KerryTarnow]

Thats awesome!

[@nightskylights4501]

I live in Pacific Northwest too, can you share who your builder is? I'm sure that price has at least quadrupled since 2015.

[@__WJK__]

Nice! What's the name of the builder, I'd love to call them & see what they would quote to copy/build one of BOXABL's floor plans!

[@directsales22]

Just curious but did the 23,000 include plumbing and electrical inside and what are you hooked up to as far as electricity, water supply and sewer. Don't mean to be rude by asking this but would really like to find a living situation for this price or even under 50,000 but do not understand how this can be done when considering electric wiring, plumbing and water supply and sewer and passing the occupancy permitting process

[@__WJK__]

@@directsales22- BOXABL homes are actually fully finished, furnished & ready to live in within a day. However, outside utilities hookups cost extra, but that’s not unique to BOXABL, given all new home construction projects will require hiring a contractor to hook the house to city utilities like: electric, city water/well & sewer/septic.

[@juleswins3]

Boxabl: Homebuilding’s answer to Bernie Madoff.

[@AnnSisuLiv]

Bingo

[@dmo848]

I been waiting and waiting and waiting. Dang I'm glad I never handed money over

[@SuzanneWho]

So far, this looks like a scam. They take money to get on a list and then nothing happens.

[@Teakela]

In the FRIDAY meme style..DAMN!😂

[@__WJK__]

@juleswims3 - It’s pretty obvious you haven’t done any actual research and/or have been living under a rock, lol

[@capngeo2002]

I'm invested and on The Boxabl list. All I've seen in years are investment schemes and new ideas/concepts that never seem to happen. New cabinets, but we can't know about it? Their own appliance line? Something new is always gonna happen until the new "something new" comes along and where are the houses? That list has been over 100K for years.

[@Luckytron]

It took Tesla less time to get their first motors developed and released. I’m also invested, but tired of the gimmicks.

[@ThreeRunHomer]

Pyramid scheme?

[@jezza6575]

Reminds me of Aptera and their 20+ years of trying to bring a three wheeled “car” to market. They just keep spinning it and changing it slightly and doing more and more rounds of fund raising to keep the scam going.

[@JackCasablanca-painter]

Exactly, it's all a bunch of B.S. These things will never get delivered. And if they do, wait for the 2-year comedy show of local permits. This is just a bunch of fairytales.

[@JackCasablanca-painter]

@@__WJK__ True. Just getting permitted for new electricity or water from the street to the house is a year-long process and at least $20k to $30k in most areas. The U.S. is a country of red tape. And these Boxabls have been online since the Carter administration, I expect one might finally be in place by 2060? 2070?

[@tessw9744]

BOXABL has dropped the ball, from what i understand....a waiting list that turned out to be years long. Over 100,000 people is a LOT! They need ro be quiet for a while and focus on filling orders.🙄 Not to be mean, but some have been waiting for a looong time.

[@CalveZilla9]

fr this company is dead. couldnt deliver. literally

[@darae3936]

@@CalveZilla9 did they even deliver the casitas to the victims of the fire in hawaii?

[@twistedhillbilly6157]

DO SOME RESEARCH!!!!! Ask the story tellers on here to PROVE their statements,, they will NOT be able to...

[@tessw9744]

@@twistedhillbilly6157 Dang man, you don't have to yell about it.😅 I happen to follow a popular real estate KZbinr. And she personally visited their factory when they were pretty new. And a few years later she made a video about how they still hadn't filled the orders. My source of info isn't from the comments section. 😂 I'm not knocking ya if you wanna order from them. Just be willing to wait 5 more years. And given that the economy is tanking and destroying businesses.....you may find yourself waiting forever.

[@tessw9744]

@@twistedhillbilly6157 I follow a real estate agent here on KZbin, she's very popular. She visited them when they were new, and two years later they still hadn't filled orders. People have less and less money and businesses are dying fast. 100,000 orders to fill will take years!! No reason to yell about it though.😂 I have done research, and my info isn't from the comments section.

[@danieldornes8416]

Seems like they should get the original Boxable home scaled up with mass production and have a delivery system working before starting a whole new venture into the Mini version.

[@CalveZilla9]

so now they're going all in on a glorified shed instead of the original 😅

[@jameys2864]

Boxabl is nothing more than an investment scam. They've only released under 200 units? That's garbage for the amount people have invested plus the endless list of people that are ready to pay for and buy one of their homes.

[@AnnSisuLiv]

They can't send out those homes. They're just using money to act like they keep growing but never delivering.

[@__WJK__]

Nah, it’s a great idea, since it’s especially easy for people to stick the mini version in back yards & also in parking lots for homeless people in failing sanctuary cities.

[@LoewenKP90]

@@CalveZilla9could be a lot more permit friendly at this stage of the game

[@dis-springs]

That is great news, Kerry! And I hope their national sales plans work and they're able to collect many more deposits! $$$ I'm sorry, what...? You say they've already done that? Really? So... they're just getting ready to do it again? Not quite. You see, they basically figured out that it's a lot more profitable to plan and promote than it is to build and deliver. Oh yeah... I understand now. And I've actually seen a few movies and documentaries regarding businesses like that.

[@KerryTarnow]

Thats why Im happy to see them promoting less and planning more

[@sampsonleevon1982]

Just Like Trump

[@twistedhillbilly6157]

Their deposits are extremely small, and do not add up to any revenue. They are also returnable if you change your mind... . they have expanded from one facility to 3 facilities and are automating.. their goal is to produce as fast as an automobile.. JUST like Henry Ford, it is uncharted territory but they are moving forward fast...

[@cancelbubble6535]

They should make a Cassita that is two stories, so one that stacks/interlocks on top of the other. That would give you ~700sq feet which would actually be livable.

[@KerryTarnow]

Great idea, they had a prototype like that at IBS a few years ago

[@cmore_512]

Have you looked at their Goldibox prototype? 😍

[@AnnSisuLiv]

They should make anything they will actually deliver.

[@Dontrolling]

They do have one

[@unfoldyourhome]

@@AnnSisuLiv Amen - we offer homes for 30k 400sqft delivered in 60 days

[@kathleenwallace1165]

Congrats for 255K subscribers! 😊

[@KerryTarnow]

Thanks 🙌🏼

[@Lord_Mangoat]

I've been interested in Boxabl for a while, but began losing hope some months back due to the lack of deliveries. As other comments pointed out, they keep announcing/showing new things, but actual home delivery is pretty much non-existent since they started. I know they want to perfect the process, but some people have been waiting for years without word on when their home will be available. New cars get announced and shipped quicker than Boxabl builds homes. Really sad to say all this, because I love the idea of Boxabl, but again, are they actually building homes?

[@__WJK__]

Best thing to do, is ignore the haters & trolls. BOXABL is making more progress than the haters & trolls will give them credit for. BOXABL can only move so fast while it waits on the gov't approvals, on a state-by-state basis, which is about as slow as molasses in January. Rest assured BOXABL is making good progress, which is evident by the following BOXABL youtube videos... kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYS5oJ98nZ53hMUsi=Pa7a-ts0pDRjbZp6 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXncnoKQd7enqK8si=_DY7GWP4MCUcdXnq

[@Dontrolling]

Pretty sure the delivery issues are coming from permit issues and other legal obligations that have to take place before delivery. I could be wrong.

[@unfoldyourhome]

It already exists, and we offer homes for 30k 400sqft delivered in 60 days

[@unfoldyourhome]

@@__WJK__ So much BS. There prices are insane for what you get. And they dont even deliver many homes.

[@unfoldyourhome]

@@Dontrolling Not true. The solution already exists, and we offer homes for 30k 400sqft delivered in 60 days

[@rpfamilybranches]

This is a great concept and I like the affordability. I wonder how good it seals on the seams when installed? I live in the south and I’m concerned about bugs getting through the seams. Does it come with air/heat? Can you fit a washer/dryer in the smaller unit?

[@rogerstarkey5390]

They could even make a "living pod" and a "Sleeping pod". If you want more space, buy 2 and extend. Set them up in parallel with a space between (8'?) and a connecting corridor at the rear giving a U -shape and a courtyard effect. Or, as an "L" shape

[@squeekywheel9591]

Who needs marketing when you have a backlog of 100K homes? Deal with the bigger bottle-necks: manufacturing and distribution. Turn off the marketing until you can get your sh*t together and deliver stuff.

[@malissadinkins8586]

Hfjfbcjx

[@Chicago48]

Are the houses 20K or 60K? Confusing because of what he's saying. But if there's a backlog of 100K, they're losing money.

[@__WJK__]

Facts vs assumptions. The “bottleneck” is the gov’t and it’s mind-numbingly slow bureaucratic, state by state, county and city approval speed. Even if BOXABL had 200k units ready to roll, it wouldn’t matter because the gov’t has only just recently granted approval for 12 states. For those that put a deposit down, and live in one of the gov’t approved states, then you can call BOXABL HQ and get your Casita.

[@bobbys6945]

@squeekywheel9591 You're absolutely right. I'm sick to death of hearing how great Boxable WILL be. At this point, they are so backlogged that I can guarantee corners will be cut when they begin pumping these out and there are gonna be 100K p*ssed off customers. They should just change the company name to, Someday, or, Maybe One Day.

[@lepidoptery]

​@@Chicago48the original small product they were offering is now $60k (it was supposed to be less). a much smaller product they said they will be offering is supposed to be $20k-ish.

[@lisagray1418]

Thanks for the Boxabl update, although it wasn’t as encouraging as I had hoped. Good to know they seem to have their noses to the grind stone.

[@KerryTarnow]

Sure seems like it!

[@1attempting2bkind52]

Go Baby-Box! Sounds good!

[@lordinquis8r679]

Thanks, Kerry! Prototyping is easy. Scaling production is hard.

[@KerryTarnow]

Exactly!

[@CarlWithACamera]

Says Elon.

[@mafp22w]

I was offered a Casita to buy once they got approval in AZ. After all the expenses of the dealer and other modifications, my cost was $120,000. And, what really irritated me was that AZ would not allow me to buy the unit as is. They forced the Casita to be modified to have a bathtub instead of a shower. I DID NOT WANT A BATHTUB. I said no thanks and found myself very disappointed. I bought a 2021 Grand Design Imagine 2600 RB instead for $30,000. If there are any government workers out there that think you are making things better, think again. You are not. At least someone on welfare doesn’t tell the rest of us what we can or can not buy, but you do.

[@amystern123]

Did they give any explanation for why they’d require a bathtub?

[@mafp22w]

@@amystern123 No. it was the Arizona Department of Housing dictating it. AZ also requires a secondary roof. Government bureaucrats are worse than those on welfare. Those on welfare don’t tell us all what we have to buy.

[@Scottybeammeup2]

@@mafp22w That is called the loss of freedom. They no longer work for us. We work for them. We need to change it back. Right?

[@nightskylights4501]

Are you happy with the RV? Off topic, what why do they still make RV's so boring? Gray, off white ugly designs, with zero character. I mean if I pay 30K for something, it better be pretty! I saw a YT video of lady, who had remodeled an old cheap RV she had bought, it turned gorgeous. Not sure why the manufacturer can't do that.

[@mafp22w]

@@nightskylights4501 I agree. I’m also amazed that I can buy a nice RV (except for maybe color) for $30,000. You can’t come anywhere near that with a fixed building and it has so much more: dual fuel power, 12v DC and 120v AC, holding tanks for fresh, gray water, and black water. And mine has 30 or 40 insulation in floor and roof. It is ridiculous how little value government brings to housing. It is no wonder there is a housing crisis. Government induced, but they will never hold themselves accountable.

[@homeonegreen9]

I used to be a pre-construction manager for on your lot construction and just 70 homes (stick built) a year is a lot for one person. At one point I was driving 190ish homes a year and ready to pull out my hair

[@KerryTarnow]

Thats so many homes!

[@emilyfeagin2673]

Thank you for your hard work. That’s a lot

[@TheMightyCookieShow]

Got to love how the powers that be are making it impossible for us to actually have an actual real home and instead all of us are moving into what just 20 years ago would have been considered a storage building in the backyard.

[@yamchayaku]

I really want prefab homes like these to succeed. The problem is that I'm not seeing anything that would actually make these worth the money. I've been hearing a lot of talks that once everything is said and done (purchase, transport, land purchase, plumbing, electricity, etc), the overall purchase is just going to cost as much as a regular home, with the exception that you're going to have less space to live in. I don't think prefab homes are going to be a solution to affordable housing. I'm thinking that housing is still going to be unaffordable, but the trend is that it's just going to change from traditional construction to prefab homes.

[@YHauz-co]

Obviously nobody in America knows what mass production looks like anymore

[@MuShinnen]

Including Boxabl.

[@__WJK__]

Pretty sure Tesla, with it's SIX gigafactories, knows what production looks like. That said, one of BOXABL's main goals, is to build a gigafactory of it's own. Soon as this happens, boxabl's production output will increase exponentially.

[@MuShinnen]

@@__WJK__ Please don't compare automotive manufacturing to home manufacturing. They are entirely different, and Tesla is not at all the shining example in that department. Least of all because of the moronic CEO at the helm.

[@YHauz-co]

@@__WJK__ I see. That is why Tesla is lobbying tariffs, to make Americans to pay for such a mass-production

[@barbaralemons4741]

Yay, OKC! I'm thrilled my favorite place I used to live in continues stepping up in so many ways. Thanks for the Boxabl update. You can't beat the unfolding at set up for bringing in more customers, but smaller ADU's can expand the brand into every city in the US.

[@rondeutsch]

Sounds great. I could get a big one for me and 2 babies to rent out on my property.

[@skyak4493]

It makes perfect sense to stick someone else with all the permitting and groundwork hassles, until you find out that you are putting a $65k tiny home on a $70k tiny slab. I just saw another video for a company that offers ~420sf ADUs in CA starting around $280k

[@twistedhillbilly6157]

The price of those ADU's assume that the electrical, septic/sewer water and gas will all be tapped from the main house OR be for a larger house under construction.. ADU's can not be stand alone... It seems like they are being pushed for "new residents" to the country which will dump a huge burden on the property owners and OFF of Gavy... ...

[@dalegereaux1863]

Great info, thanks Kerry ! 👍

[@KerryTarnow]

Thanks for watching Dale

[@ThreeRunHomer]

The BabyBox would still require permitting, foundation, water, sewer, electricity etc if it’s a residence. You can build a small shed without a permit, but not a residence.

[@amystern123]

You can build a residence, but may have trouble if it needs plumbing. At least this is the case in some jurisdictions. I’ve seen videos where they’re trying to build housing for homeless people. They get permits for a main building with bathrooms & showers, & build many tiny houses near it. So long as they’re under a certain size, no permit’s needed. They can have electricity. In some locations, this is more practical than building an apartment complex. As a transitional option so people can get their sh-t together, feel safe, get meds & counseling, & get a job, it can be a huge help for people. $20-30k is probably more than they’re spending per tiny house, though. Perhaps the Baby Boxables are intended for use as a home office, art studio, etc?

[@penelopegreenland3537]

I heard they will offer an RV sticker as a work around.

[@donalfromupnorth4856]

I agree, purchasing through a dealer likely leads to less head aches for the purchaser and better support.

[@KerryTarnow]

100%

[@GoTerry]

I toured the factory fell in love with the idea then.... waited over 2 years before moving on.. seems like they were always getting ready to be great, good plan just taking too long for my needs.. Great Stuff Kerry

[@KerryTarnow]

Fair enough, thanks for watching Terry

[@randyrice1429]

I can see living in the mini-version and waiting on the original version, assuming the baby version could be received quickly. Say you have a small lot in the mountains. Flatten a place for both baby and big box. Get the baby while waiting on the big. Later, the baby can be used as a guest room or office, or whatever. I like it.

[@nightskylights4501]

And you believe that? The dude put up one twit, most likely when he was drunk!

[@rachelgoodkind6545]

Thanks for reporting on all of the possibilities. What will I buy? we will see, but theiur waiting list is long...

[@stoneyrunva]

Every couple of years there is an announcement for a new affordable home that coincides with another round of fundraising. However, wait lists and gov regulations mean none of us regular people will every get one.

[@lancasterhousing]

Boxabl is a fine example of having a concept idea and not having a clue how to get it to market. They burn through millions a month with enormous warehouses and seem to be making little progress. They are realizing the complexities of planning and building code across different states and that without financing there are few clients! An 8x12 is NOT viable as a permanent home! Nonsense!

[@CeeDub619cameraman]

@Lauritascocina I kind of disagree in this way.......there's a severe housing shortage in this country .......therr is a critical need for more affordable housing.........the current zoning/building parameters need to drastically change to allow this type of home for those who it will be a good fit for .....not everyone can afford a 2000 Sq ft house.....that said I agree that this company hasn't figured out how to tap into the market / need.

[@lancasterhousing]

The price of land is the problem. Developers can make houses cheaper and cheaper and smaller and smaller. Does anyone want to live in a 20ft square house!? What nonsense. If you do then good luck but you’ll be spending more on medication for depression than you will for the house, given the claustrophobic space. You still need planning, permits, a foundation, utilities, a GC to build it, finishing and then you’ll live in a box the size of a bathroom. We need to aim higher!

[@CeeDub619cameraman]

@Lauritascocina I just bought an acre of land for 6k....with all utilities available...that's not expensive.

[@lancasterhousing]

That’s great. Pleased for you. But that is hardly ‘normal!’ $6k for a lot. In Spanish Fork Utah its around $250-300k for a lot. So unless you want to live in the desert or some other inhospitable place you ain’t gonna get land for $6k. It’s beyond debate, that land is expensive. All the best if you want to live in a 20ft house. A trailer is more luxurious as it’s twice the size. 20ft provides a roof over a persons head but is not a solution to the housing shortage.

[@CeeDub619cameraman]

@@lancasterhousing except you likely won't be allowed to live in a trailer permanently as you might be this type of home....fun debate !

[@jam180digital]

You’re my new fav creator!! Keep up the awesome work!!

[@KerryTarnow]

Wow, thanks!

[@SavageScientist]

I have invested in Boxabl and hope to see them succeed. I think if they can ship a bare Shell of the Casita for 40k is the best way for them to get things right.

[@melissaweyrick5311]

Dealer network sounds awesome . Time will tell though. 😵

[@KerryTarnow]

Yeah, they’ve got a lot of work ahead of them!

[@mariacifuentesmarrero8938]

I think the dealer idea is great transperency will be a key for the consumer.

[@KerryTarnow]

I agree

[@davidbarajas12]

I have a 2021 deposit and still waiting. Back then price was $49500 & they said they would offer financing. Price has gone up, no financing, now I need an authorized dealer set up. I agree with all the cynical comments. Lots of concepts, 2 story, a gazebo version, remember the government contract hype.....I might end up eating my deposit.

[@3DThrills]

Just remember that in addition to your tiny house, you're going to need 4 more major things. Buy land Drill a well Bring in power Dig septic

[@twistedhillbilly6157]

Boxabl's are NOT tiny houses. LIFE requires everything you mentioned.. EXCEPT, Land can be leased, or even homesteaded in some cases. Water can be trucked in, power can be solar. Numerous ways to deal with septic without digging... check out earthships...

[@__WJK__]

@3DThrills - Right & to be fair, BOXABL never said land & utility hookups were included in the price. Anyone who thinks they’re going to find a builder/contractor to build them a 20x20 home “similar” to a BOXABL Casita, that also includes land & utility hookups for $65k, has no clue how new home construction projects & pricing actually works.

[@Rickettsia505]

That new one would be great for a weekend cabin.

[@KerryTarnow]

Totally

[@Rickettsia505]

@@KerryTarnow I live in Albuquerque NM, and there are mountainous and/or rural areas within an hour or two drive that would be great for a self-sufficient small cabin. We average > 300 sunny days here, so solar would be easy. Water is an issue, but it can be delivered or brought in. If you are OK with a composting toilet, and even washing up with wipes, then it's just drinking water and dishes. Some places here do rainwater harvesting or develop cisterns, but we only average about 9" rain annually. It's best to locate near to a creek.

[@bmac9936]

The only way the Baby Box could work is as a backyard grandma unit/studio or larger scaled community for the homeless.

[@cshaw9083]

I wish there were existing communities of casitas that people could buy. Is there a lot of ' not in my backyard ' nonsense from municipalities slowing things down? The U.S. loves its red tape...

[@dalegereaux1863]

It's not just the red tape. In my city they allow ADUs but if they have too many, the electrical grid and the sewer systems cannot handle that many more people. Not to mention all the problems with more parking needs.

[@priestesslucy]

​@@dalegereaux1863 ADUs are nice and all, but the better question is if your city is allowing these to be installed as the actual Prime Residence of a lot.

[@emilyfeagin2673]

Depends on zoning That’s a local issue

[@cshaw9083]

@emilyfeagin2673 yes, I know. That's my point. There are wayyyy to many local fiefdoms for anything substantive to ever be accomplished. For example, boxabl presents a model to solve the housing crisis. But all of the random fiefdoms out there say 'nope. We don't zone for that sort of thing here in 'Randomville, USA'. So it's better if people just freeze to death. Because we don't want no darn 'tiny homes' here in Randomville. Because Boss Hogg said that would mess up all the kickbacks he's gettin' from the building unions. So you just take your little homes elsewhere, mister. We ain't havin' them here.' Ugh.

[@cshaw9083]

* wayyy too many

[@STB-jh7od]

I wonder if linking baby-box to normal boxabl could be done and still come in under $100K

[@eattherich9215]

I read that Boxabl went into partnership with DR Horton. What could possibly go wrong? With a waitlist of 100,000 six units is not exactly cutting it.

[@__WJK__]

Sartups take time to reach full capacity. ie/eg, “Tesla” had similar issues in its early days, until Tesla built it's first gigafactory. Now Tesla has a total of 6 gigafactories. Point being BOXABL plans on building gigafactories as well. Soon as BOXABL builds it's first gigafactory, production will increase exponentially, just like it did for Tesla.

[@twistedhillbilly6157]

NO THEY DIDN'T! Do some actual RESEARCH

[@__WJK__]

@@twistedhillbilly6157 - Are you saying Tesla could meet demand from day one (lol)? If that’s what you’re actually implying, it’s you who needs to re-evaluate your research.

[@ronbigdog48]

I don’t think they will ever go into full production

[@KerryTarnow]

Time will tell

[@twistedhillbilly6157]

They have 3 facilities IN FULL PRODUCTION and are in the process of automating...

[@jenndoe3233]

Baby- box, sounds interesting.

[@KerryTarnow]

Thanks for watching Jenn

[@robj5780]

The dealer setup makes sense for scaling unless they want to go full vertical integration and setup their own dealer (think tesla stores). For the Baby Box, perhaps it has wheels and fall into the camper category....

[@KerryTarnow]

Thats a good point

[@amystern123]

Not every location is zoned to allow you to live full time in an RV, though, so they’d need to clarify what they mean by “no permitting.”

[@michaelh2797]

At the rate BOXABL works, maybe we’ll see the baby box in five or six years? At least looking for info on BOXABL landed me on your channel. So I can at least get info on companies that could actually sell me a home if I want one. 🤣

[@KerryTarnow]

Glad you landed here 👊🏻

[@georgeboutwell6069]

Is it considered RV still, or have permits as a house? Is the hot water heater still lockup in the wall with no access?

[@curious1366]

Assuming that you can get one of these.... where can you put them? In terms..... of what cities,? what type of land,? what type of zoning etc????? Can you put them in RV parks?, on land with no other structures? ?????

[@__WJK__]

Here''s a novel idea, call BOXABL HQ in Nevada and find out.

[@ib4359]

Kerry, thank you. Irene from Indiana

[@KerryTarnow]

Thanks for watching Irene

[@zealforhumnity]

yatzy! 💁‍♂very good news

[@KerryTarnow]

Thanks for watching

[@andrewfrodo2086]

I remember this back in 2017. The price is always going to go up. For under 400 sq ft. could I make my own Tiny Home for under 60k? Probably. The only advantage is this is movable. If I want to in 20 years move. It could be possible.

[@josephbattaglia3690]

If I buy a boxable home and place it on a foundation, will it appreciate in value like a traditional built house? Or will it depreciate in value like a trailer?

[@danielvaladez3210]

I think people need to think back to Telsa. This is exactly how Teslas used to roll out. A lot of pre-orders and you'd hardly see any. Now every other car is one.

[@educational4434]

The challenge is that moving to a dealer scenario means that they're going to jack the prices up. So the entire goal of getting these houses to be low priced, like 20K is once again dashed

[@MrLofter]

yup just like car dealers

[@__WJK__]

Agree. Maybe/hopefully BOXABL will figure out a way to allow DIYers to buy direct from the factory, though the more I think about it, needing a crane to "unfold the roof" might be a bit of challenge for most DIYers(?)

[@educational4434]

@@__WJK__ I don't have any problem paying people to construct the house. But I have a problem with is buying the house from the people who are constructing the house. In other words, I don't want Boxabl to sell the house to the dealer, and then the dealer sells it to me at a markup while simultaneously being the only person who's allowed to build it. That's where the price increase comes from. If they simply allow dealers to stock the houses and unfold them for a reasonable install fee, whilst I still buy it from Boxabl (but pick it up at the dealer without a "purchase of the house itself" markup) then I'd be ok with that

[@jeffreylabonte6594]

ok 60k to start for a 19x19 box is just too much. Maybe more in the 30k, 40k with the pitched roof but that's all I'd pay. now if it comes with land a slab and water and sewer hook ups then 60k is really good.

[@twistedhillbilly6157]

Build one yourself for your price.. You won't even be able to pay for the electrical and plumbing materials.. What about architecture and design approval?

[@imyourhuckleberry8009]

Interesting, I would prefer to buy a 400sf Boxabl prefab home for 20k than the same style as just as good Chinese version for 12k, to help American workers but I am skeptical that the sandwhich panels they use are not from China anyways, and they just "assemble" them here? ?

[@amystern123]

I’ve never seen anything “just as good” from China for $12k. What company are you thinking of? If you want to see Boxable’s factory, just Google it, there are tons of videos.

[@rtgbhreth]

I want one just to live in till i get my more ideal home like boxabls 2 story one and who knows how long thatll take.

[@williamcousert]

In the early 1900s, Sears sold mail order homes. Could Boxabl be the next Sears?

[@Dogmachic]

Question. If I buy a unit from the dealer how much more will I have to pay? Where does the profit come from? Me.

[@sharkmedia5969]

The biggest problem preventing a simple solution to the housing crisis is zoning regulations. A $20+ or $60 thousand casita would go a long way toward providing basic housing to almost anyone but only if you don't have to add thousands and thousands more to put it somewhere. As it is, most of the approvals that Boxable has gotten from states only allows for them to be constructed on properties that already have a traditional house. That doesn't help the people who need them most. It just allows people who already can afford traditional housing to build casitas and rent them to others either on their existing traditional properties or as little villages that would leave the renters subject to HOA type fees. Until someone can buy a $60 thousand dollar casita and put it on an affordable chunk of their own land without having to deal with all the extra cost and middle men, there will be no long term solution for the housing crisis.

[@__WJK__]

At some point, people have to realize that the cost of home ownership requires a certain amount of dedication and hard work. Everyone, of course, wants a super affordable awesome home, on an awesome/idyllic piece of land, but this isn't the reality of how things work. Nice homes and idyllic land simply cost more, and if people want it that bad/bad enough, they'll set goals for themselves and figure out how to obtain it, and iif not, they'll have to choose something else and/or depend on the government for some kind of help. If building/offering "low-cost/affordable homes" were easy to achieve (and easily profitable) more companies would be doing it... thankfully, there are a few companies (like BOXABL) that are at least trying.

[@74surfboards]

Is Kerry Tarnow being paid to promote BOXABL? Online reports speculate that BOXABL has received $3billion in start-up funding and deposits and that they've only been able to deliver a fraction of the amount of homes promised. The announcement of a complete "Baby Box" prefab home in the $20k range may just be another marketing hype deflection. There should be thousands of BOXABL homes delivered by now and yet it's still really hard to actually track one down and see one in real life.

[@KerryTarnow]

No, if its a sponsored post it will be noted on screen at the start

[@__WJK__]

@74surfboards - No comperable startup, in the history of startups, builds 1000s or 10s of 1000s of products overnight, or is 100% free of growing pains. Zero, zilch, nada. Look up how long it took Tesla to go from a startup, to releasing it's 1st limited run of Tesla Roadster(?) Then go back and look up how long it took Tesla to ramp up and complete it's 1st 1000 sedans, 10,000 sedans, 100,000 sedans, 1,000,000 sedans, etc... Also, look up how many people were on Tesla's (deposit-based) waiting list(s) that had their promised delivery dates, pushed back by Tesla.

[@Daniinthecity_]

Not Clayton homes😅 Smallhorn just made a video about them , very informative and yet so disappointing to find out what Clayton has been doing to people.

[@KerryTarnow]

I haven’t seen that one

[@joecutro7318]

Wow. Affordability! Thanks Kerry! We'll stay tuned!👍🏼🙏

[@stevesidare2493]

Quite a relief compared to the 100+K homes I see going around as "solutions."

[@__WJK__]

Interesting, what part of the country do you live, that has $100,000 new homes for sale(?)

[@amystern123]

@@__WJK__He might be referring to the tiny home market. However, that doesn’t include the cost of land to put it on, sewage / plumbing / electricity, and permitting. Some buy them & rent space in a tiny home community that provides those inputs, or put them in a willing family member’s backyard.

[@AnnSisuLiv]

And when will they actually send products out?

[@sheilazachowski3114]

Do you know of any prefab adu that is Florida hurricane compliant? I would like one for my yard.

[@Terry-w8q]

You’re doing pretty good eh,mahalo

[@KerryTarnow]

Haha

[@theautomomma6750]

The site prep for a Bobaxbl is burdensome and expensive in most places. You have to add at least $25K. On an empty lot in a large city think more like $65K. A cheaper Boxabl would help. I like this Baby Box idea.

[@KerryTarnow]

Thanks for watching

[@__WJK__]

"Site prep is burdensome and expensive"(?) Site prep and cost, is not unique to just BOXABL. All new homes, similar to what BOXABL offers, will require burdensome and expensive site prep. Even if you buy a traditional sticks and bricks home, the burdensome site prep is factored into the higher cost. No matter what option you choose, there's going to be some kind of burdensome and expensive site prep involved.

[@Widdershins.]

Was so excited (years ago) when I first heard about this company and the Casita. Would no longer touch them with a ten foot pole. I've given up on the idea of affordable housing. Sure, you can get an Incre-di-box for $30k or so, but it's just shelter from the elements. Better built than an RV, maybe, but no storage, no appliances, no room to swing a cat. I have a cat - I want to swing him!

[@amystern123]

You’re brilliant! If you start making tiny home videos AND swing cats in them, you’re hitting two of the major themes that make viral KZbin videos. Combine that with all the engagement from viewers outraged at your cruelty to the cats, & you’ll make a mint. Just please use AI to make the cats. No actual cats should be harmed. Incredibox doesn’t even try to make storage. Even putting the bed on a platform with drawers in it seems like a no-brainer, but when they show you ones that are set up, no one’s done that. I think the Incrediboxes are purchased by people who literally don’t have an extra nickel, so getting the lowest possible price is the only criteria. Shelter from the elements sure does beat no shelter, though.

[@Widdershins.]

@@amystern123 Wholly shite! My next side hustle! Thanks, anonymous KZbin commenter! I think with some custom designed Snap-On tools to guarantee the cat's tail is firmly attached, along with a shot of local anesthetic in the general rumpage area (to appease the whiners), cat-swinging as a way of measuring the living space of a tiny house could become the next big video trend. If I'm right, it won't be long before I can afford one of those fancy shmancy Park models that cost as much as a 3,000sf house in Mississippi. Also, Incredible Tiny Homes is coming under the same kind of scrutiny as Boxabl for their slow turnaround in making good on their promises. They do, at least, keep you excessively and constantly informed about how great they're doing.

[@amystern123]

@@Widdershins. I didn’t know that. I have seen plenty of ITH models, though, so at least in the past they’ve built some. Boxable have built some too but a much smaller number, I think. Even without concerns about timing, with ITH I’d worry about how sturdy they are. I see a lot of videos of people reselling them, and never someone moving them to a different location. I’ve wondered whether it’s safe to move them a long distance or if they’d fall apart.

[@Widdershins.]

@@amystern123 They're getting their homes built at a decent rate. It's just that they keep promising to build up the neighborhoods where people can put the houses for cheap rent that continue to be delayed. They acquired some wooded acres on a mountainside that they have been trying to develop that are long past the deadlines they promised, and people have been waiting a significant amount of time to be able to move onto them. They come out with videos showing other spots they want to develop into a tiny home community - TN, GA, NC - they all look like great spots, but when it's already taken over a year past promised move-in times for the places they've been working on currently, people are starting to mistrust their focus and are getting cynical about investing in sites that ITH doesn't even own, and won't begin making a reality for several years yet. Finish what you're doing NOW, and when it's nearly complete (not years before), THEN start looking for new properties to develop. Don't require people to send you money as an indicator that there's interest, only to make them wait months for a refund when the real estate deal falls through, or the "interest" in the idea didn't generate enough people willing to pre-pay a ton of money for it to happen.

[@tresboujay]

@@amystern123 You’ve seen an actual live owner of a Boxabl property outside the factory, do tell! 👀

[@StardustMonkey]

On my city they won’t allow composting or incinerator toilet you will need to pay 30k to hook up to sewer and water

[@jprobillard]

Dealer Network is the way to go

[@KerryTarnow]

I agree

[@tammyjohnson1877]

Clayton homes are also cheaply built mobile homes

[@wilty5]

I’m interested but 12ft is way too small for me, I would prefer at 18ft

[@amystern123]

Then you can’t drive it on the road. If it’s 8.5 ft or under, you don’t need a special permit. I think the max is 12 ft with a special permit.

[@wilty5]

@@amystern123 I’m talking about the length, not the width

[@nightskylights4501]

Don't worry, in this rate, they won't have any real homes at any size available for another 10, or even 20 years!

[@amystern123]

@@wilty5 oh, of course! Sorry, I should have assumed that was what you meant.

[@Micarunwithme]

Rancher 8 and 9 would love a walk through and review

[@KerryTarnow]

Rancher 9 video will be live in 2 hrs

[@richardpenrod2911]

Bring the factory to Elkhart County Indiana we know how to build homes here.

[@dalegereaux1863]

I like the idea of the little one bedroom and bathroom with a small kitchenette. Then one could build a nice two bedroom bathroom kitchen and living room unit and have three or four separate one bedroom one bath kitchenette units all in a subterranean compound. Safe from any bad weather with room for a select few friends to survive the apocalypse. 😏😉

[@mvcharisma]

Boxabl is a joke, they need to actually start manufacturing homes rather than come out with endless display models. Their website sums it up, they don’t want to build houses, they just want investors 😂

[@__WJK__]

Looks like "someone" hasn't been keeping up with the latest news on...BOXABL... kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYS5oJ98nZ53hMUsi=Pa7a-ts0pDRjbZp6 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXncnoKQd7enqK8si=_DY7GWP4MCUcdXnq

[@emilyfeagin2673]

Why not use existing mobile home dealerships? They have the equipment and the know how

[@KerryTarnow]

good point

[@__WJK__]

If a mobile home dealership reached out to BOXABL, I would think BOXABL would totally welcome them into their contractor program.

[@22verayoung]

I'm sure Boxable builds according to quality standards. Some of the builders Champion and Clayton and others deal with standards have declined. Alot of damage happens between pickup, delivery and setup, that NEVER gets replaced or repaired the way builder intended. That's one reason people like builder to customer.

[@KerryTarnow]

Thanks for watching

[@starletsatori8933]

I would love to put one behind my mobile home on my 1/2 acre. Makes sense to go through a dealer.

[@stick3024]

Years ago they took my 200 deposit but I havent heard jack from them since.

[@twistedhillbilly6157]

What was the date and what was the promise? I will buy you out if you are unhappy....

[@rossmunro9946]

Did the robots get a raise? You know, folks, it's much cheaper to build your own shed-style mini-home for way less than what these guys charge. Do the research and the math - and all the building instructions, from the site prep up are on KZbin.

[@michaelramsey3643]

Sounds like their original business model, that they've been selling for years, doesn't actually work. The problem with dealers is the cost to the consumer will inevitably go up. The idea for a smaller, cheaper house could work, but 100sf is extremely small. Personally, I wouldn't consider anything less than 8x16, as a bare minimum. When you add in solar+batteries, HVAC, and a compost toilet, the price will almost certainly be over $30K, but the biggest issue is that whatever it is, right now its only an idea.

[@realestatenewbie-ometry7842]

Many people have invested their hard earn money including myself, in this idea that can be a game changer in the home industry. Its sad that Boxabl cant make it happen or is slow to making it happen. One popular vlogger has a convincing first person video inside the Boxabl warehouse highlighting the many downfalls and issues. Maybe they should allow a company like Clayton homes take over and do what they do best. That list would quickly and easily decrease within a year.

[@scootover7]

I would love to see some of these used to try to help with housing for disabled, and low income people

[@KerryTarnow]

Same here

[@scootover7]

@@KerryTarnow I wish I could hit the Powerball so I could do this, I've seen many people in Orlando Florida struggling to find a place because of high rents

[@igalis26]

nice one

[@LifeAfterLosing]

So they have a plan and promises of plans so far. They aren’t building the homes, but they have plans to. This company is like the Elio Motors of homes.

[@CIS101]

Commenting as of 3:33, I always liked this channel since lockdown in 2020. For me the Casita was not love at first site, and I didn't like it at all first time I saw it in a video. I've seen videos of manufactured homes that are far more attractive to me, and still are.

[@juliebarnett9812]

Thanks Kerry.

[@nightskylights4501]

For what exactly?

[@MexicanTeTe]

I'm on their mailing list, but all I see are them begging for investors and little to no evidence of them actuality delivering products. I was interested in the two storey home they promoted in previous years, but it's no longer listed on their website and I can only assume it was probably not structurally sound enough for them to stack the units like that. Also the increases in price make the units far less appealing. You might as well build something nicer or sturdier for that amount of money.

[@chaoticgood3935]

Get on the list now and you’ll be enjoying your beautiful Boxabl home in only 35 years!

[@KerryTarnow]

Haha

[@jamesdunn5017]

8' x 12' for $20 or $30,000 ? Inflation or profiteering ?

[@__WJK__]

To answer your Qs, all you have to do is find a company (with similar features and amenities) that beats BOXABL's current pricing. That said, I have yet to find a company that beats BOXABL on price, especially considering what you're getting for the price.

[@tCCZebra70]

Great marketing seems to equal lies lies and more lies. Sucking in money and not delivering product.

[@williamcousert]

Tesla claims it will soon have a self driving electric RV for about $15,000. How will that compare?

[@carloscarrasco9741]

The Portland dealer told me there is no permit for Boxabl casitas in the city for now.

[@__WJK__]

Interesting, I'm located in Portland and was considering ordering a BOXABL. Which dealer did you call exactly(?)

[@Lawliet734]

No prefab home would solve the housing affordability problem in Vancouver, because the lot on which it sits would cost at least a million dollars.

[@RogerBankerFishmiser]

Going through a dealer equals more expensive. Say goodbye to the 50k price tag.

[@__WJK__]

Going through a dealer wil increase price, however, BOXABL will also offer non-dealership options for the DIY crowd. That said, even if you go through a dealership, you will still come out ahead compared to sky-high labor costs associated with traditional new home/sticks and bricks construction.

[@RogerBankerFishmiser]

@@__WJK__ I heard that line before. I'll believe it when I see it.

[@__WJK__]

@@RogerBankerFishmiser - BOXABL may not be the right choice/fit for everyone, but rest assured, BOXABL will be the right choice/fit for others ... it's really just that simple.

[@RogerBankerFishmiser]

@@__WJK__ Well, yes of course. That's like marketing 101, some people want things while others don't. "ya know Pringles may not be the right chip for everyone but rest assured someone will eat it.

[@MuShinnen]

​@@__WJK__That's not at all a defense for the issue with dealer markup when the main selling point of a unit is the price. At that point it is bumped up to compete with more expensive units which kills potential market share.

[@unofficialobserver]

I just found out I have to get septic system approval before a building permit. No building permit needed here under 160 sq ft

[@skyak4493]

Is there an Occupancy permit? Almost everywhere there are rules for what people are allowed to live in.

[@ThreeRunHomer]

@@skyak4493 exactly. You can build a shed without a permit but you can’t build a home without a permit.

[@unofficialobserver]

@@skyak4493 you have to meet building code before you get your occupancy permit but you can still live in your house without your occupancy permanent in ontario anyhow