Kesha: ‘Gag Order’, Rick Rubin & Walking a Fine Line | Apple Music

Kesha is back with her fifth studio album, 'Gag Order'. She sits down with Zane Lowe to break down her experience making this project with Rick Rubin at Shangri-La studios in Malibu, CA.
Kesha says this album is unlike any of her others because it was made purely to express how she was feeling at the time, without consideration for radio hits or singles. She opens up about how her life experiences have shaped her music, including a spiritual experience that inspired "Eat the Acid", a desire to dip into a ore hip-hop-infused sound with "Only Love Can Saves Us Now", and walking a "fine line" in the public eye.
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[@avecestopedri1643]

Is anyone else living for this nearly hour-long interview? I love her i could listen to her for days and days

[@TheSiren666]

i need more hour long Kesha interviews/podcasts/etc so badly

[@hcje3577]

​@@TheSiren666you might already be aware but she had a podcast in 2021

[@TheSiren666]

@@hcje3577 already listened to it

[@KeshaIsQueenOfPop]

Ikre

[@KeshaIsQueenOfPop]

❤

[@MooTelevision]

I could listen to Kesha talk for hours! It’s a shame her label isn’t promoting this album, because it’s incredible. But I’m glad Kesha got to make it and express herself.

[@10181ngh]

I mean...it's Dr. Luke's label. He's not going to spend a penny on promotion because he's a pathetic, little weasel of a man. Thankfully, she's doing a lot on her own to push the record, and it's being so well-received.

[@paplar9744]

Its almost better because it allows her creativity. A lot of the coolest albums Ive heard has barely no mainstream success

[@MavericksPlaylist]

Something to note - the label isn't promoting it because it's still under Dr.Luke's imprint, Kenosabe Records which is owned by Sony. Wonder why it's not being promoted, hmm....

[@b__w_4565]

on youtube under gag order songs it doesnt even have record lables......thats a very good sign. she's finally done selling out for money.@@MavericksPlaylist

[@TysonASMR]

Finally a Kesha interview that’s longer than 15 minutes 🙏😭

[@TheTwardSays]

Gag Order deserves a Grammy that's the real tea no haters will be heard!

[@anthonybelfert379]

Facts

[@Kriztx]

Totally

[@AbelCardiem]

🎉🎉❤

[@ellalopez3358]

Yessss aoty.. Let's hope Dr luke don't sabotage it lol

[@tonberry2670]

Nah. The Grammys are a joke and they don't deserve her

[@shimin1694]

Her speaking voice sounds so pillowy and clear and the same time! So nice!

[@angelicMisha]

For real, I would gladly listen to an audiobook if she narrated it.

[@Boucher702]

Tik tok ! lol 😂 sorry

[@gregsthrottle]

Every Kesha interview is like being in therapy, legit for the last 15 years, but THIS … this one hit deeper than ever. So fuxxing pumped to be living thru this era rn 💚💚💚

[@venomcomedy8217]

Came here to say this ❤

[@AA-qb7ni]

Kesha has been through so much in the industry, it's lovely to see her do music on her terms. She's amazing.

[@mcentepede]

Timber with Pitbull was a bopper. Harmonica

[@chasedwards9626]

I agree. She looks like she’s been through a lot.

[@Lexipop398]

God, her voice is soothing. It’s like the feeling of talking to an old friend you haven’t spoken to in years, but once you do, it’s like no time has passed. It’s so warm and comforting to me. I’m so glad she got to get her feelings out properly in this interview. I honestly could’ve listened to a three hour version!

[@PianoHits]

Kesha's mannerisms always striked me as a very generous aware soft sensitive soul who just wanted to add so much good to people. For the soft hearted who tried usually by 30 many trust less, love alittle less in people and look for faith in other places. It's not an easy reconciliation with self to realise the old self has to go to not repeat the hurt.

[@YenneferStark2]

This was such a nice listen. Thank you for providing Kesha with a platform to speak about her art. To be honest, the both of you together have such great podcast chemistry - wouldn’t mind more episodes like this!

[@internetj3r]

To this day she still has the greatest debut single EVER.

[@mrcandy]

she's so pretty omg

[@VinceAnimations]

This album is incredible, truly blew me away by how much I was moved by it

[@dopechef228]

Album was garbage😊

[@simdom2557]

Man I love those interviews, so real and down to earth conversations. Listenning artist talking about their work is so inspiring

[@GameThrone20774]

Masterpiece album

[@rivaldoeliziario]

You realize what a great artist she is after she was able to work on her songs spontaneously, creatively and artistically. Her art overflows in her songs and we can feel what she wants to go through, it's great to see her grow and become this great artist, even suffering a boycott from the record company and being trapped in the hands of her abuser, I hope she conquers all her essence of back that one day they took her away. She ends the album saying that she just wants to be happy, I hope she actually gets that. Stream and listen GAG ORDER!

[@TheGioGiol]

This interview was like therapy to me! Kesha's got such a mesmerising way of expressing herself and, of course, through music as well. Gag Order is amazing and so is she for being so brave to put out all these feelings for us to listen and understand.

[@paulrichard3614]

So glad Zane and Apple Music had Kesha on their platform! Gag Order is Kesha’s best work to date and it deserves a Grammy 💛

[@raichustan]

Kesha is incredible and Gag Order is phenomenal. I truly feel it’s album of the year and deserves so much recognition! Thank you for this interview! 🤍

[@OflibertSH]

Definitely can't believe the people who trash this amazing work, Thank you Kesha for giving us a piece of Heaven ❤️

[@daisytherainbow]

thank you for giving K the space to talk! love this. love her.

[@Droozydancer]

You are my favourite interviewer. You give artists a good platform and navigate intelligent, and comical conversations. Thank you for doing it again for Kesha, she is such a moment through all her changes in artistry. So glad to perceive this interview and learn more about Gag Order specifically. ✨

[@MrJayjase]

This was like therapy for me, I’m glad a lot more people have been affected by Covid Lockdowns and social awkwardness ever since, I don’t know how to get out of my head when socialising, it’s like I’m watching myself and it’s exhausting!

[@WafuBro20]

God I just need a roundtable discussion with Kesha, Gaga, Taylor and other pop girls.

[@EmeraldEmolga]

YES omg

[@lorenzoc1487]

Without him yass

[@milkyteawithbiscuits3555]

Now that would be something super special, I feel like all 3 women you mentioned have such interesting stories, diverse and passionate artists in their own right

[@WafuBro20]

@@lorenzoc1487 I think Zane could be a good moderator!

[@paplar9744]

@@milkyteawithbiscuits3555 taylor grew up in a rich household and dates matt healy the only thing shes going through now is burying all the horrible things healys done

[@macaronifanatic7287]

What I love so much about Kesha is her authenticity. She doesn't wear a fake mask like most artists and performers. She shows us everything the good, bad and ugly. As someone who deals with pretty extreme anxiety and occasional depression I appreciate her talking and singing about it. It's easy to feel alone and isolated but the sad truth is so many people suffer with these issues. I love her so much.

[@nickwright4828]

This is DEEP! I love them both, I love this album and her growth is remarkable. She really is one of those artists that can create art in almost any genre..

[@bgtaylor89]

its crazy that she never was able to make art without thinking about singles and perception. glad she finally found that space. hope she can stay there.

[@troyDM9330]

Every SINGLE time I hear Kesha speak I feel so spiritually connected to her its crazy

[@ashleysmashley444]

Same!

[@MrVpk6]

I miss being a kid jamming to her old music! Die Young, Tik Tok, C'Mon, We R Who We R, Take It Off, and many more! I watched those videos multiple times.

[@parkerburgio]

Kesha truly served with this album. Grammy material

[@Nancy2420s]

Kesha is sooooo pretty! Stunning!! Her voice is soo elegant.

[@giuseppegenovese7673]

Underrated. She deserves so much more appreciation ❣️

[@ciriaco9748]

she has grown into such a great and genuine artist

[@sashastratton]

Also i absolutely feel she absolutely says what i can't seem to express. Shes my therapy. I get what she says in these interviews and music

[@bluelightvisions]

Love this conversation. I feel such a connection to Kesha having seen what she’s gone through and rooting for her for so long and have always been waiting for a record like this to come about. I feel like I’ve been growing with her in life and listening to the music, reading the lyrics and witnessing this conversation was so inspiring and informative!

[@hm9766]

Amazing album. Kesha is so underrated it hurts.

[@rmannayr2129]

SHE IS BEAUTIFUL!

[@tonyrosamusic]

I love her so much, she has evolved so much and that only proves she is a legend.

[@mistrock322]

Her voice is so soothing

[@guilhermebenevenutte5962]

Kesha has been a genius since always

[@jayjosephk1ng]

Simply because she mentioned the experience she had with Rick Rubin & how her music on this new album is a reflection of how she's actually feeling - I will absolutely be listening to it all the way through. Feeling the feelings & coping with them by writing music feels like such a genuine way to create art. We're not machines. We're creators. Big, big difference. Thank you Apple Music, Zane, and Kesha for this interview!

[@sashastratton]

This is a brilliant and powerful album. Not one bad song. The problem is many may not understand each song is strategically placed in the order they're in for a reason. It displays a journey. Maybe those who trash trash it have no understanding of her journey, nor have they perhaps experienced trauma. I feel like emotionally attached to her new album. I listen to it from start to finish several times a DAY❤❤❤

[@Chadwicktyn]

meeting that woman when i had no idea she was at one of her lowest points and the embrace, kindness, and love that radiated off of her was life changing. So glad I still run across my photo on her instagram and still have those memories in LA with her. She will forever be an icon and just all around a beautiful human being, inside and out. Life’s taken some traumatic paths for us both it seems but so glad she is healing and has this outlet to make such beautiful and truthful music. ❤️🫶🏼

[@thatsogay7060]

I stan this album so hard.

[@holgerhagmueller]

Album of the year. Already now. And.What.A.Voice!

[@MindfulMya]

God I love this interview. Can’t even call it an interview it’s a deep conversation about life and trauma and living a quality of life.

[@rmannayr2129]

CONGRATS TO HER!

[@malovina]

I feel Kesha on weekend being 20 again. I remember very vividly my 20 and 21 and how I felt, what I wore, how I blasted music, loved with a full heart and just was overjoyed. I feel into a bit of burnout, fatigue and depression followed by some serious problems in my relationship, followed by me doing exactly what Kesha is doing now - therapy with my partner. I just at times want to feel like 20 and 21 again. Tear that bandaid off and be, but no matter how much you want to escape - no matter where you go, you have yourself to deal with.

[@LUVORATORRRRY]

i love this era sm

[@deedeeblackwater8354]

Too Far Gone ended up being my "pull the car over to cry" song. Thank you for this album, Kesha.

[@fatimab.6415]

Respect for Zane for seeing Kesha for who she really is and supporting her and admiring her music

[@gad_blood]

Was waiting for this interview!

[@FernandoPerez-hb8ko]

love this interview, the fact that kesha is so open and honest makes it better. i love this album from top to bottom, one of keshas best albums and sonically is on another level. i love my Queen♥

[@illssette]

Thank you for this incredible interview with Kesha. She's truly a gem.

[@97faugre01]

This is an absolute highlight of why Zane is the GOAT interviewer. He's so amazingly good at making everyone he speaks to so comfortable, seeing Kesha in this interview looks like an absolute weight off her shoulders, an absolute testament to his skill

[@FelipeMarinhoso]

It’s an amazing album… her best work…

[@psycho7.7]

Def not. Her older work is UNTOUCHABLE 💀

[@jaymiegill9506]

People need to stop viewing "coping mechanisms" as bad. Imagine having TALENT as a coping mechanism lmao. Her PEN GAME is INSANE. I wish lmao. ""Coping mechanisms" are actually gifts when you can create art. Seriously.

[@LadyJaggerX3]

This is it. 🎉

[@JessieDee13]

THANK YOU! would u rather have someone healing and using coping mechanisms or someone sick and mentally unwell?

[@jaymiegill9506]

@@JessieDee13 if we taught EVERYONE from young to find their talent(s), we would be a better world for real. I am multitalented, as are MANY people. MANY. In fact most creatives/artists are multitalented. Nobody is one dimensional at ALL, especially in creative spaces. "Renaissance" men and women have existed for centuries. Like...

[@JessieDee13]

@@jaymiegill9506 Yes THANK YOU! I've been saying this for years. There are schools in different countries where the kids get to pick what they learn about and they study what they are interested in! Its really cool! Obviously, teach them to read and write, basic math, history and some sciences but let them pic and choose what other classes they want to take that day. Music, gardening, baking, woodworking, etc. This way they can find their passions and talents and expand upon it!

[@GoAskYourMother11]

She is my hero. Truly.

[@BecG8177]

It’s so comforting to hear that other people are feeling the same way I am feeling. Even though we are told your not the only one who feels this way , you honestly feel at that moment that you’re alone feeling this way. Thank you Keisha for this interview. Honestly, does feel like a good therapy session much needed. New Album is truly a blessing at this time in my life.

[@valema6028]

And this is how I became a fan of Kesha...: I've always liked Kesha but I rarely listened through any albums of her or anything. Then this album came out, and somehow I started listening to it, song after song. And I thought "wow! This is the music I want to listen to". I guess you can really understand it's good music from an artist, and not just a forgettable single for the charts. And I feel in love with it. I keep listening to the whole album, it's like a journey and it speaks to me. The lyrics really resonates with me. I love this artistic work of hers and hope she'll tour Europe soon

[@makinmusicmon]

We are all weird but some of us conceal it and some don't care. ❤ This interview and love Kesha through her whole journey of music 🎶

[@aliciafawcett6350]

This is her best album by far: true art, creativity and authenticity. The album as a whole addresses the US obsession with individuality, success and acceptance by society. It's obviously something no one can achieve, so why do we try so hard? "The drama" and "Too Far Gone" are real masterpieces.

[@rafsun9365]

Kesha is so underrated

[@AmandaVergara2004]

Kesha, queen of our hearts ❤️💜✨

[@Marxnchill]

I’ve never been a bigger Kesha fan and I’ve liked her since high school 10 years ago!

[@connieoshea]

I now finally know why I instantly just lov….liked Kesha back in 2010. I’ve always quietly followed this woman’s career, despite never seeing or ever even hearing a single interview of hers, only just her music and hearsay. I don’t know what compelled me to risk seeing my idol (I’m happy to use that word), but I’m so glad that I did. Maybe something out there just knew that today was the day, particularly given all the stuff that’s been happening with me this week.

[@nxtlvlzeph]

she’s so fun and has the best vibes ever I love her sm. great interview!!!❤

[@M3dU5aXX_Ray_Tierney]

I love Kesha, such an amazon person and so real.

[@v.polonez5945]

I Can so relate to her and me being Aquarius - we are very alike with Pisces on many aspects and the overthinking, taking everything as a sign, having the breakdown, my head is literally my worst enemy and I can do so feel and see what she means

[@Fight4FatalFrame]

I love high road. Gag orders another level of hurt. Totally different moods.

[@DAPortalatin]

Great interview and love Kesha so much!!!! She creates such beautiful, deep, amazing music that I relate to so much!!!!😀🥰🔥💞

[@kaibamoon]

THE NEW ALBUM IS ART

[@rmannayr2129]

SHE DESERVES IT!

[@allstarsnave3826]

All these interviews she keeps sweeping past high road, I LOVED that album and gag album is great as well, just a completely different direction. Love both albums, just listen to each when I'm looking for a different vibe

[@fatimab.6415]

We love you Keshaaaa we will always root for you

[@InspireDogworks]

Regarding the body storing trauma, there's a book called The Body Keeps the Score that talks about that specifically

[@DefinitelyNotMyRealName]

That book is in my house.

[@v.polonez5945]

I think that album is actually the best pop album of this year and actually of the past few years now that I think about it

[@MonteroRioDoge]

Seeing the grown woman she has become is beautiful she’s so strong ❤ love Rick too

[@SantiagoJessi]

Loved and enjoyed this interview so much OMG!

[@aliciak.6603]

Talking about neurodivergence without ever saying the word. I love this interview. Very self-compassionate and kind to one another.

[@aliciak.6603]

I suspect part of the identity development that Kesha is describing is what it is to be a woman in music - to decide which parts of herself she can present and wants to present. Her journey being famous since her teens and into her adult life reminds me of Taylor Swift’s journey in public life in a lot of ways. In which sides she and Kesha present in public. What they reveal of their private life. Etc…

[@bluefood726]

Eat The Acid is truly a masterpiece

[@jills7232]

Love! This new album is really deep and gives us permission to let go of our emotions, too. Thanks for being vulnerable (aka strong) so we, too, can feel it's safe to be vulnerable, Kesha. I love every side of you, too.

[@jacobmatton7588]

Truly an amazing album 💕

[@franklinguzmanciprian]

Album Of The Year❤

[@parestezia]

QUEEN! 🤍 CONGRATS! GAG ORDER IS AN ART.

[@trtlduv07]

Love Kesha and Zane! Kesha’s singing and speaking voice is so amazing! 💜💜💜

[@Lynchbricks]

That album is my life right now.

[@fernandoelbrat]

She’s such a vibe❤ currently obsessed with the song “eat the acid”

[@andrevvve]

Incredible conversation. Loved this so much

[@CrAck-MoNey]

You sound amazing! Love it!

[@billypage224]

she has such a soft voice, i could listen forever

[@chaseonritchie717]

Kesha will forever be amazing music grows with her

[@myrrabaity7033]

I’m so excited to listen to this- I’m so sick of cotton candy, I need a real meal. Share something that makes me feel something that matches internal real life experiences ❤

[@klu5301]

Such a great interview about such an amazing record!

[@PurpleNoir]

Love Kesha and I wish her the best ❤

[@TheMostDivine]

i ❤️🧡💛💚💎💙💜💖 kesha and zane

[@joshuvuh8118]

Amazing interview ke$ha giving up some great wisdoms

[@xOperationIvy]

Wishing Kesha happiness and success

[@euzozi]

Hear me out: Zane, Kesha, Lady Gaga. An hour and a half interview. The world would heal.

[@JessieDee13]

This is exactly what I was thinking thru this entire interview. It made me think back to Gagas Chromatica interview with zane and how open she was, just like kesha is being here. The album is truly beautiful

[@iclarion]

YES YES YES. I kept thinking of her through out the entire conversation. She's been such a loving caring friend of Kesha's and I'd kill for a conversation between them.

[@trtlduv07]

Yesssss!!!!!

[@judithpriestess7781]

When Zaine mentioned he derives empowerment from Chino Moreno/Deftones, I understood immediately; because I do too. When I want to steel up or feel sexy I play Hexagram, Knife Party, Beware the Water, etc. It was so specific and relatable to me, I froze. Glad for Kesha. Her voice is amazing and distinct. She really is a "triple Pisces" II feel that from her, especially when she described making sad songs happy or using major chords set to sad themes. Total Pisces.