Kettlebell Coach reacting to Jack Black getting JACKED with KETTLEBELLS

[@Aidiecantwell61677]

Mark Wildman top coach.

[@Michael-4]

After many years of back pain, physio, and lifting. 3 months of following Mark's videos and it's like my back's been reborn. I like his unassuming style, focusing on substance too. He seems like a real pro and humble with it.

[@lebe-stark]

Great to hear you got rid of your back pain Michael! - Gregory

[@domzbu]

Same story with me. Make that decades of back pain. Since using clubs and maces, back is stronger and more pain free than ever. I got a couple of instructional sessions with coaches for both tools, and use Marks vids the rest of the time. Mark got me into clubs which then led me to maces too.

[@mattbryant6187]

Mark Wildman’s channel is the best one I have come across for Kettlebell and Clubbell training.

[@tbx59]

Indeed. His videos build on each other while he's teaching you the theory.

[@shannonheathcliffmul]

i think this dudes just salty because he's putting out good info for free which makes it harder for him to sell boiler plater programs

[@UsernameUnkwn21]

@@shannonheathcliffmul nahhhh.. he was right on the $ regarding nutrition.. Wildman pacifying by tabling nutrition bc it's the more challenging to "deal with" is ridiculous

[@anelvanstaden2921]

I agree. Jack is a typical guy we come across daily. No one gets it right the first time. Swing is very hard to learn and teach.

[@uncleorang3]

i always like the trainers who work out in jeans lol

[@DasnarkyRemarky]

Mark Wildman is one of the most knowledgeable coach out there when it comes to functional strength training. But I do agree with your point about abs and diet. Cheers!

[@lebe-stark]

I appreciate that! - Gregory

[@paulcharlwood702]

Except Mark was talking about getting abs not showing them off. I've been kettlebelling for a couple of years now using Marks methods and my abs are waaay stronger. Still cannot see much of them due to my layer of insulation but then I want to be strong not look pretty.

[@eahuso]

@@paulcharlwood702 im really getting jacked after a few months with mw's KB+Club Nerd Math program, but its only a side effect, im getting a warrior!

[@youjitsuhoneybadgers8322]

I remember Mark telling us he purposely didnt talk about nutrition first, but started with excersize, because Jack was motivated to train, but not change his diet. Improving Jacks overall health was by first offering him something he is motivated for and then lateron introduce more nutritional advise. May not be the objectively best way, but it does make sense to me.

[@maryhamric]

That makes 10000% sense to me. That is how I think as well. Focusing on exercise helps me get my diet on track. It's much harder for me to do it the other way around.

[@debunkthelies]

1000%

[@IgorMikeshin]

Hey, I actually follow Mark, but I love how respectful you are towards all the negative comments and, I hope I'm getting it right, towards Mark himself. That's a huge thing nowadays. Respect, big brother!

[@lebe-stark]

Appreciate the feedback Igor! - Gregory

[@Eline_Meijer]

Please dont shit on other coaches....smart ppl have multiple coaches and ppl who do kettlebell tend to be smarter

[@anelvanstaden2921]

People have different training techniques and clients different training ability. Never saw Mark criticize anyone.

[@debunkthelies]

1000% agree. Not quite sure what the purpose of this “critique” was aiming for, but I suppose some can’t accept another being at the top of his game.

[@debunkthelies]

Mark wouldn’t criticize because he’s too busy producing exceptional product and instruction that aligns seamlessly with his learned skills and passion. Inasmuch, Mark has nothing to gain if he were to become childishly petty with peers within the industry.

[@haroldpapillon4686]

You’re just giving Mark Wildman more viewers. Your viewers are turning to his channel. Great job 👏🏽

[@UsernameUnkwn21]

And vice versa, those searching Wildmans/jack black videos have seen this video and subbed to this channel LOL

[@brawndothethirstmutilator9848]

Harold Papillon, What a weird misplaced display of tribalism you’ve engaged in.

[@inigo137]

If you think he's losing subscribers cause of this video, you clearly don't know how the internet work bud

[@utubepunk]

Would love to see a collab / crossover video between you & Mark talking kettlebell & coaching. 🖖🏼

[@lebe-stark]

Maybe one day; thanks for sharing! - Gregory

[@chrisdenning8905]

Was surprised he didn't start by teaching the fundamentals of the hip hinge, and that nutrition would be the last thing to focus on... Would have expected that to be the very first thing. But I guess it's hard to tell from a snapshot video that doesn't really go into much depth. Overall thought you made some good points 🤙

[@lebe-stark]

Thank you Chris! - Gregory

[@DonovanPete]

About a year ago when the pandemic hit in the States, my gym shutdown. I had a follower on IG suggest sandbag and kettlebells. I was surprised because half a year into barbells, I would end my entire session with two handed KB swings. Fast forward to March 2020, I got my first KB and it was a competition bell at 20 kg. I remember the first channel I found was Mark Wildman and I learned the foundations of KB work. I've been hooked ever since. I added to my collection and thinking about adding a pair to the ones I do have and steadily get heavier bells. This past weekend, I seen a video of yours that was a reaction to Dan John, whom I had no idea who he was. When I thought about getting a heavier bell at 32 and up, but his and your advice about having excellent technique made me rethink that purchase. I definitely need to work on form before I go higher. MW opened the door and you certainly have tips and thoughts that are extremely insightful! I look forward to learning from you too!

[@stevedavis1269]

Without mark I wouldn't have my heavy club collection

[@lebe-stark]

That's great to hear Steve! - Gregory

[@stevedavis1269]

@@lebe-stark in loving your video's. I have been doing the simple and sinister with a 20kg for the last month. But your ideas and advice had been great. Keep up the good work.

[@trkddy]

Wildman is the man ! Great videos !

[@chill0314]

Wow you really took a beating in the comment sections in this one. I've been doing kettlebells for over a year and have enjoyed both you and Mark. Mark obviously has a very dedicated fan base. I find both your styles and coaching informative and helpful. I try both styles. I like the fluidity and relaxation of sport style. But find the hard style simpler to execute and better for heavier weight . Not perfect in either, but working on getting better.

[@lebe-stark]

Many of Mark's followers didn't take this video too well. :) Thanks for sharing Marques! - Gregory

[@andreibarbuta]

I agree with Mark's approach. Not putting on a diet change at the beginning will have a huge increase in the chance of changing lifestyle. Diet change can be very stressful and it often fails so the person gets depressed and will crave unhealthy foods, it's cyclical. Also focusing on physical effort changes brain chemistry, more endorphins which will be a major pillar of success for sticking to a healthy diet after.

[@mikebazis9883]

You, Mark and Dan John have changed my life and helped me rehab from a THR❤

[@jerryheath3887]

I came to your channel as a result of Mark Wildman's recent soft style videos. His channel has taught me a ton of stuff and has now expanded my kettlebell universe. He also got Lebe Stark, KB Britt Fit and Kat's Kettlebell Dojo a new subscriber. Lebe Stark is great too. I am learning a lot from you about sport kettlebell style. I like it!!

[@crayzmarc]

Just followed those two! Thanks for the recommendations.

[@3runjosh]

I quite like these videos where you critique other trainers. It really highlights some important stuff and I've corrected quite a few things because of these videos. This time round it was thumbs back after the press. Thanks.

[@inigo137]

I like how most of the comments are hating on this video but have 0 arguments to actually address it 100% toxic tribalism, which is pathetic in a community as small as the kettlebell one

[@lebe-stark]

Good observations

[@brianbailey6138]

To be honest, I'd rather listen to, and watch, Mark Wildman. Sorry.

[@lebe-stark]

That's totally fine Brian! Follow who and whatever suits you best! 💪🏽

[@peterng25]

I find Mark teaching very clear, he is like a Scott Sonnon but somehow different too

[@haroldpapillon4686]

👍🏾

[@utubepunk]

I think both have something valuable to offer to us in their own way. I think both would make an interesting collab video just talking shop.

[@kevinorr6880]

Consider the target audience. In this case, Jack. Not a healthy person, by choice. Better to have him return and change habit at an acceptable pace, which is to say a pace that Jack will accept.

[@lowflyingdonut]

I see ppl asking for a reaction video to mark wildman all the time in the comments on your newer videos and yet here it is. I think you have improved your reaction video style since this one. I think your comments on this video are fair, because while this video doesn't give you the full context of MW's philosophy and training so it is a tad "out of context", for many people it may be the only video with him they watch, so it's a realistic impression they will get. If you watch a lot of his videos, you start to get a fuller picture and you would learn a lot, especially the "nerd math" videos, the basics videos. MW is a total force of nature at this point he is currently cranking out a new video every almost every day, usually between 2 an 10 minutes each, very information dense, but would be hard to do a reaction video to just one of them at random, because the full context isn't there. Pick one of his playlists and go through it in order.

[@mattjohnson6642]

Sorry, I just came for the Ben & Jerry's and to throw a thumbs up. Good critique. As I think it would be a solid idea of Wildman, who is a very good trainer, to do a progress video with Black. Show how technique evolves from day one to day 90 for instance. As I believe his form would improve to be more in line with what he coaches in some of his other clips. Just keep doing what you do. For a real good time, go and critique an Instagram fitness influencer on kettlebells! That's when the real tears come out to play. :)

[@RuntheBell]

Hi Lebe Stark. Thank you for doing a review on Mark! Never seen one before. I did the ckt level 1 course (just was there did not make the physical test yet). I think the way Mark teaches some things helps amazingly with core strength and basic technical buid up. Of course de soft style is better for a longer set but the style Mark teaches defintely earned its plays. It sounds like u don't think so. Is that true? Thanks again for doing a review. It gives me some point to think about!

[@lebe-stark]

Thanks for the feedback Ben! Hope you can make it to the physical test asap! 💪 I‘m sure Mark has some valuable inputs to share that people can profit from. Sharing constructive feedback about a coach or his philosophy does not mean, that I don‘t agree with everything he says. There are nuances to disagreement imo. My critique is base upon the video with Jack Black and there are certain elements he‘s sharing and teaching that I see differently. I also share my viewpoints from the lens of a GS-based (and PN-based on diet advice) approach. That‘s the reason why I see many coaching aspects differently and don‘t agree with certain coaches on what they teach. Are you looking to be a coach as well? Wishing you much success along your IKFF and kettlebell journey! - Gregory

[@RuntheBell]

@@lebe-stark for now i just found the most fun way to be healty fit and strong (kettlebells). I would like to become a trainer some day!

[@jcaral4171]

I guess Mark didn't want to demoralize jack black. I have learnt a lot with Mark, although it's true his comments are not the best in this video

[@shantanusapru]

My take on this Gregory/Lebe Stark: You have possibly chosen the worst video to critique a trainer/coach, esp. this one. There's a huge difference in dealing with celebs having massive egos & who always insist on getting their way as opposed to dealing with a Regular Joe/Jane! And this is why I consider this video to be a highly sub-optimal pick; perhaps even a strawman argument tactic...! He has hundreds of training videos, and if you go check them out you'll soon realise that not only is Mark Wildman one of the most knowledgeable KB (also club bell & mace) trainers out there, he is perhaps one of the most humble/unassuming ones as well! And, his training style is absolutely matter-of-fact & safety-first -- just as it should be! P.S.: These are clearly outtakes from his weeks long training of Jack Black! P.P.S.: I shall grant you, though, that, as a general concept, your 'points' are valid & relevant. Peace!

[@crayzmarc]

Great comment!

[@shantanusapru]

@@crayzmarc Thanks!

[@Sean.A.F]

I’m a huge fan of MW and thought these were fair criticisms. I’m always looking for information even if it contradicts what’s I already know or believe. All these other die hard MW fans need to chill and separate themselves from an individual they’ve never even met and claim to know the content of their character. MW makes great instructional videos as does LS. We should learn and apply all forms of kettlebell training and their benefits and not be so dogmatic. Thank you for the video @LebeStark and thank you for all your other informative videos.

[@clappersox]

This is in poor taste and not a good way to build a following.

[@lebe-stark]

It's just a reaction video with no harm intended. 😀

[@clappersox]

@@lebe-stark Fair enough.

[@haroldpapillon4686]

👍🏾

[@csabadanyiko6096]

For getting healthy and losing weight diet is always more important than exercise. People have a tendency for compensatory eating when they start moving more. They usually overestimate the burned calories and underestimate the intake. I'm overweight but started losing it steadily in the past few months. I have been able to do intense powerlifting or kettlebell workouts even for long duration, still didn't lose any weight until I got my diet under control with conscious choices. These workouts made me more explosive and mobile than people with healthy body mass, but my weight didn't change because of them.

[@Davirezende]

Congratulations on the video. Very instructive and responsibly done.

[@lebe-stark]

Glad you liked it Davi! Thanks!

[@stefanravalli6940]

I love Wildman's content, but totally understand those critiques. I would say the video chosen was one of his "fun" ones and perhaps the easiest to pick apart. I'd like to see if the same holes can be found his more "serious" videos, since those seem much more technical by comparison. However, the Jack Black video is interesting because we actually got a chance to see some of Wildman's coaching methods rather than him just show a technique. Either way, glad I'm following both channels!

[@crayzmarc]

True dat! I see this as a bit of fun and unfortunately Jack Black is still overweight so I wonder if Mark still trains him.

[@aaronnim1424]

Alot of his technique instructions are similar to or precise to what Pavel Tsatsouline teaches..Guess you're saying his technique is off as well 🤷‍♂️

[@lebe-stark]

Hey Aaron. Thanks for the feedback! Pavel's style is not off. It's his own creation and it differs from the original russian kettlebell training (the girevoy/ Kettlebell Sport style). This is what another O.G. of Kettlebells -namely Steve Cotter - taught us. We covered the advantages of the girevoy/ Kettlebell Sport style in another comment in this section.

[@alexandrebarbosa4933]

Great review 💪

[@lebe-stark]

Glad you liked it!

[@simeonreigle2940]

Hardstyle vs softstyle swings... Two completely different methodologies with different effects. The point is to create tension to build strength. You keep acting that's a bad thing.

[@lebe-stark]

Hey Simeon. You're definitely right! If you want to build strength; do whatever suits you! This is not a bad thing. However, we believe the girevoy/ Kettlebell Sport style (the "soft style" you're probably referring to) is superior and we judge other variants accordingly in a reaction video like this. Thanks for the input!

[@ezet]

@@lebe-stark What makes it superior? What does it achieve, as it doesn't look very explosive or powerful. just cardio? Do you have a video about the differences/advantages?

[@lebe-stark]

@@ezet It's the original way of kettlebell training and it's more efficient since you're conserving energy to work for longer sets. This optimizes your form/ technique (according to the law of exercise) and forces your body to improve in breathing, resting, technique, power output and mindset. It builds muscle, burns fat and improves your heart rate since you're able to work longer without having to put the bells down. We highly suggest you go check out a few videos of kettlebell competitions; you will see that world champions (and kettlebell athletes in general) are always using the girevoy/kettlebell sport style because of its efficiency. Explosiveness does not automatically qualify for better form or better technique. If you "grip it and rip it" it will probably yield a higher power output but only in the short term. You will be forced to drop the bells and/ or quit your session very early and in the end, your initial power ouput will not outperform the athlete continuing his set for a longer period of time. Chances are that you will also put yourself at risk for injury; especially when you go heavy. We hope this helps; thanks for asking!

[@TheWeardale1]

yes, always make yourself look big by diss'ing others...

[@AlteredState1123]

Mark Wildman has a great channel. Are you piggy backing off of his success? I look forward to seeing what you produce.

[@lebe-stark]

Hey Franz. If you're interested, check out our newest videos to see what kind of content we produce. - Gregory

[@haroldpapillon4686]

He’s looking for attention. Plain and simple. He got. He just turned a lot of viewers off

[@AlteredState1123]

Agreed. This is a deplorable attention-seeking and marketing tactic. I will not watch his channel for that reason. Make allies, build a community. That should be the motto.

[@rinkuhero]

both your channel and his are my two favorites for kettlebells. are there any others as good as your two channels? but yeah i overall agree with your criticisms of him in this video, like he himself does not have visible abs, and i don't think i've ever seen him with them. so he's not the best person to give advice on how to get them.

[@lebe-stark]

Thanks for sharing Paul! - Gregory

[@domzbu]

Visible abs is a really modern day obsession, it’s very vanity oriented, driven by all the celeb mags and men’s mags, and advertising generally. Half of the very best UFC fighters (past and present) don’t have visible abs.

[@jojoma714]

I know Mark has a big following and is supposed to be a master teacher, but (at the risk of sounding just a tad critical) am I the only one who thinks maybe Mark needs to take a look at his diet as well? His physique doesn't look like someone who trains with kettlebells (or anything else). Just saying. I'm only a novice, but my vote goes to Gregory hands down for the best kettlebell advice.

[@crayzmarc]

Wow just saw your Zuzka video and deleted my comment there where I dared you to do a Mark Wildman video. But I see you already have! Shiz! Brave. Some valid points in your video. Nobody is perfect but Mark Wildman is close to it in my opinion. The whole reason I'm into KBs now is thanks to Mark and i love the guy as he does such amazing work and comes across as a genuine person. I wonder would you ever train with him if the opportunity presented itself?

[@grindercap]

Only recently came across this channel and I have been watching MW for years. I understand that Gregory claims he made this video for the purpose of education but the fact that he used someone else's video to criticize in order to teach makes it a video based on criticism of another coach which is not just a pure and simple instruction or educational video. IMO Gregory has totally missed what Mark's coaching style is making the claim that Mark is wrong in how he is handling this client and saying it must be done a different way. I completely disagree with Gregory on this point. Mark knows exactly what he is doing and leaving the issue of perfect technique as something that will be addressed in future instructions and the issue of diet for a later challenge is a good thing in this case. The client stated that he wants to eat what he wants to eat and to attempt to force the issue at this time could easily drive the client away. Bring the client along gradually and allow the client to see results and grow in desire to take on more challenges. When you are trying to battle being an alcoholic you don't try to stop smoking cigarettes and stop drinking at the same time. It is too much for most addicts to tackle several challenges at once. Gregory presents the concept of I am the coach and it will be done my way. Mark shows the perfect example of the coach who wants to help the client and is capable of recognizing and adapting to the unique challenges that different clients present.

[@djcudworth2355]

3:54 have you watched any number of Mark Wildman's vids? Here he is not talking about how to get any aesthetically pleasing set of abs, rather how the kettlebell or weighted club exercises force the core to stabilise by engaging. This is opposed to a strategy where one might specifically focus an exercise protocol, crunches I guess, on the abs.

[@lebe-stark]

Hey DJ! He's saying "the easiest way to GET abs" and I assume he's using this term to describe how to make them visible. Since he's working with an overweight person, I don't think that he's talking about a strength and stabilisation protocol for the core. However my assumptions may be wrong and if they are, I stand corrected. - Gregory

[@paulshaddix5290]

thank your for your consistancy...just one thing..in english..what do you say to start the video...

[@simonal6215]

Wow. I don't know where to begin with this video. No trainer worth his salt would ever search for flaws like this. The clip is just a small peak inside one of Mark's sessions, and that's it. If you're unsure about his way of teaching and training philosophy, take look at the rest of his content instead of posting this clickbait garbage.

[@lebe-stark]

Hey Simon. Thanks for the input! If you've been on KZbin for a while, you might know that reaction videos are a thing and that Coaches and Trainers do it often. We believe that you can spot a trainer's philosophy in a short video as well and that you don't have to dig into the rest of his or her content.

[@calebf.6806]

@@lebe-stark this loosely translates into judging a book by its cover (making a judgement based off a small sample size). You seem like an educated well mannered guy, but a bit zealous regarding sport style. Preferences are reasonable, but man give me a break. Hardstyle is in some instances a better approach (mainly if you're just looking for explosiveness or power; American football is an example of an activity hardstyle is better suited for). Not an attack on sport more on your uneven commentary.

[@peterng25]

Different styles of coaching? Intermittent fasting is also for longevity, it promotes autophagy, that's why a lot of people are using this type of diet for. So, I guess, to each his own. Mark Wildman is a very good, actually a great coach. As you yourself said in one segment, 'maybe he taught Jack about this technique, but it's not included'. The Jack Black clip could not include every details, it was more a view of a coaching session of a 'big' name Hollywood star.

[@lebe-stark]

You said it well Peter. To each his own. 💪

[@mattbryant6187]

Well the truth is you are just using this video to get more hits on your own channel as you know Jack Black seatches will return this video. Can’t blame you for that I suppose......

[@chrisdenning8905]

So far it only really promotes autophagy in rodents, not many human studies to date and those that have been done don't show promising results 🤷🏼‍♂️.

[@giatonpeonta8071]

came back after some time just to see that you erased my comment. good work.

[@lebe-stark]

You must have missed us; great to have you back! Your comment is still there; just do some digging.

[@giatonpeonta8071]

if you don't understand the phrase "make your abs fire involuntarily" you should quit your job. and he never said "make your abs visible". he said "get abs", meaning build strong abs.

[@lebe-stark]

Thanks for the feedback Giaton! There’s no need however to tell folks to quit their job because they don’t share your opinion. The sentence „make your abs fire involuntarily“ sounds like a catchy phrase but it doesn’t make sense. If you clean one kettlebell into the rack position (as he explains in an example later), your abdominal muscles act as stabilizers and that‘s it. We‘ve already covered your second critique in a separate comment. 💪

[@giatonpeonta8071]

@@lebe-stark funny how you ask for (probably serious) money when you coach people to injuries, but you expect constructive feedback from a random guy for free on YT. but ok, let's do that. @ around 3:10 we see you swing a kettlebell and you're unable to keep your head steady with respect to your body. moreover, your neck is never straight and your chin is most of the time trying to touch your collar bones. this is never good posture, and makes sense only in one context: a boxer in a ring trying to hide his chin. you're not boxing, so fix that before coaching people. the answer "i'm doing it as X showed" is not a good answer. X is doing it wrong. head forward and chin down is bad posture, period. @ 5:45 : the stick is to make sure that he's not leaning forward, as most beginners do when they squat. like you lean forward @ around 4:15 in your video watch?v=_OyP9zfps-Q (you're doing a deadlift, not sure why you should do that but anyway. MW wants to make sure JB is not doing a deadlift but a squat. your squat is correct, half a point for that). @5:22 of your other video watch?v=_OyP9zfps-Q : are you enjoying pressing a kettlebell with your hips hanging over your toes? jesus christ man, what kind of posture is that? see also @ 6:49 of the same video. JFC man. is that how you walk around? learn to keep your back straight. tilt your pelvis forward so that your lower back is not arched and make sure that if someone watches you press a kettlebell from the side everything is aligned: the kettlebell when it's not on the clean position, your shoulders, your hips and your heels. another detail: your feet are not parallel. fix that, unless you got some gift card for back surgery and you wanna make sure you use it before it expires. and until you learn that, stop coaching people. about the "involuntarily firing" thing. if you're doing a movement that does not engage your abs, either the movement is useless (like curling barbells) or you're doing it wrong. in the second case, you should find the correct way to do it, that involves engaging your abs. that's what the phrase means. nothing to do with your abs showing and diet. just with doing things correctly, making sure you use your abs all the time. i'm a mathematician. if i was teaching "(2x) squared = 2 (x squared)" and baseball coach told me to quit my job i should stfu and do it. they'd be right to tell me so. here goes, just quit your job, stop doing videos, you're doing more harm than good. the people you coach are better off binge-watching netflix on their couch and eating icecream than destroying their bodies training with you. let MW and Tsatsouline do it, they know better. you owe me what you charge for a two weeks' intensive training program and a thank you.

[@lebe-stark]

Thanks again for the (very extensive) feedback! We really appreciate the input about the stick! That's acutally a great way to make sure, folks keep their back straight in a Goblet Squat. Judging from the rest of your remarks, we see it twofold: 1) You have never heard of the girevoy/ kettlebell sport style; the original way to use a kettlebell. Give it a shot on google and expand your horizon a little bit. 2) Rarely have we seen such an emotionally charged comment (with follow up research) on our YT channel. As a mathematician, we believe you're a pretty smart guy. Going off like that on other people just because you don't understand all the nuances (or don't share their opinion) doesn't suit you well in this case. Godspeed to you! 💪

[@giatonpeonta8071]

@@lebe-stark thanks for your answer, first of all. the fact that i knew what the stick is for even though it's not my job should tell you that my horizons are already pretty broad. i didn't know the girevoy thing, however, and thanks for that. some observations: i. while searching girevoy, all the people i saw who curve their spines like you do when you clean the kettlebell are aware of the fact that this is terrible for their spines. knowing that, they were wearing weightlifting belts. you were not wearing one, and that says something. on top of that, i think i can safely suppose that you don't advise the people you coach to use one (correct me if i'm wrong, i'll take your word for it). anyhow, if your training is based on a movement that demands this kind of protective equipment no matter your strength and level, you're hurting yourself in the long run. you create bad habits which become bad technique and then you find yourself doing everyday tasks like taking your groceries home with your spine bent like an S and no belt to protect you. what you do in the gym determines how you do things outside it, and your activities in the gym should prepare you to live better. there should be a safer way to do the clean, and there is one. unless you're exclusively coaching people for competitions, who know or are told explicitly that this is not the way to do things when you're not competing or training. ii. swinging kettlebells can be done without wobbling one's head. don't take my word for it, look at Tsatsouline's or MW's videos or the random girevoy guys i saw on youtube. since wobbling your head is not part of the movement, it's wrong to do it that way. if you're unable to move your thumb without moving your index finger, you got an issue you should fix. simple as that. the fact that you can't separate the movement of your head from that of the rest of your body means you're doing something wrong. the fact that i know it and you don't means something. iii. chin down and head forward is bad posture. your posture is bad. the fact that i'm an amateur and my eye is trained enough to see it on a video, and you're a pro and you're not aware of the fact that that's an issue also means something. "there is people who do it this way and they've given a name to what they do" is not a valid answer. all of these are not matters of opinion, but of fact. when people who don't know that their posture is bad coach other people, bad things happen. maybe not within a year but they do happen. you can go on for a long time without correcting people's posture until it hits them, but then it hits them hard. i'm currently 35, and you seem to be of a comparable age even a bit younger. let's wait 15-20 years and compare surgeries and medication for chronic pain. you might be in a better shape only because i do combat minimum 1h per week and shit happens. but at least i won't have inflicted injury on myself through bad practice that can be corrected. if you think my comment is heated, that might be because in criticizing MW you just made clear beyond any doubt that your technique is objectively bad and that you're in no position to criticize anyone who knows what they're doing. you're the kind of coach that takes advantage of the fact that most clients don't know how to make a good coach from a bad one and whose coaching causes injuries in the long run. just visit a random crossfit gym and see coaches make overweight people do an insane amount of repetitions per minute with no regard for technique. such coaching does more harm than good. don't take it personally, you're not the first and, unfortunately, not the last ignorant person to think they can criticize someone who actually knows what they're doing. the world and the internet are full of such people. if that seems disrespectful, it is. i don't respect people who don't know their league. i'm trying to be polite, though. finally, the "that's just, like, your opinion, man" argument is not an argument unless you're the Dude, which you're not.

[@ארבלדביר-ח1ו]

Giaton you do combat wow! A real man. And math? Wow.. matrix shit right there.. The scapula elevates and protracts as the humerus rotate internally during the back swing. Combine that with neck extension. Plus u know nothing about spine and hip relation. Ask a client to align his spine without him fully in ppt will create damage to the si relation. Plus, the belt is for the elbows, and to remind the tva to be engaged. Nice try tough

[@unsungSwissHero]

You didn't do your homework. Mark has a video of the hand 2 hand kb swing, where he says it's better than the 2 hand swing... But of course, for a beginner he teaches the double handed version first as it is easier/safer. So your only point remaining is regarding the diet... You would prefer some complex advice instead of a simple to follow rule... That is up to you. There is simply no major criticism that would make this video necessary.. but I like your smooth English. Wish you a great weekend

[@lebe-stark]

Thanks for the feedback! 💪 We disagree on the notion, that Beginners do better with the double hand swing. We teach the H2H Swing all the time to Beginners and it‘s not only the best version of the swing but also easy to learn.

[@unsungSwissHero]

@@lebe-stark I'm watching "enter the kettlebell" and Pavel just said "once you master the 2 handed swing you can move up to the 1 hand swing" 😆 just realized Lebe Stark is not related to StrongFirst 😄 I thought Pavels gymwas called LiveStrong and u simply translated it to German. My bad 😅

[@marcus_ohreallyus]

The coach not correcting his kettlebell swing made me cringe a little. I would think Mark Wildman knows what a kettlebell swing looks like.

[@nomad1517]

Kettle bells are the ballet of the weight lifting world.

[@domzbu]

Check out mace flow

[@charlesgrey8651]

Good content 👍

[@lebe-stark]

Glad you think so!

[@johnnylira3312]

Mark can only do so much.. Jack Black doesn't give a damn about proper technique. He just wants to sweat then go back home to eat and set up tour dates for Tenacious D shows. We also don't know how much weight Jack's KB's were.... Since its competition style, he could be holding 5lb KB for all we know.

[@lebe-stark]

It's always the Coach's responsibility to ensure proper technique; especially in a 1-1 setting. Yet and still, proper technique takes time, patience and practice. It may well be that this was just a one-timer for Jack Black. - Gregory

[@urielaz2402]

What is the goal of this video?

[@lebe-stark]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaction_video

[@urielaz2402]

@@lebe-stark you making fun of your viewer?

[@rahspillz9726]

URIEL AKHAMZADEH well the point is obvious.. it is educational.. Do the correct things instead of listening listening to the wrong things

[@haroldpapillon4686]

@@urielaz2402 👍🏾

[@alvaroespinoza4705]

With all due respect, this video looks more like propaganda to your own channel than what if you use this technique instead of that other,? try to do that instead that. Not bad, but more like ego. Greetings.

[@lebe-stark]

Thanks for the feedback Alvaro! This video is not supposed to be an advertisement for our channel; it's for informational purposes about different styles of coaching. 💪

[@haroldpapillon4686]

👍🏾

[@Liam1991]

03:10 - What the hell is going on with your hand to hand swing? It looks like your bending your back at the up, and your knees are not locked out at the top.

[@lebe-stark]

Neither your back has to be straight, nor your knees have to be locked if you want to conserve energy and work more efficiently. Efficient work is part of the philosophy of the girevoy/ kettlebell sport style. 💪

[@jacogrobler6391]

Mark does hardstyle and his form is 100 percent.

[@happytrees4734]

Jaco, Mark also practices Sport Style kettlebelling. He has been training for kettlebell marathons using Sport Style and he speaks highly of it.

[@qamarnadhir]

He’s probably making so much with so shaky information.

[@magicricky9726]

Now that you have got yourself in the light by dissing a much more succesful coach, you should really delete this video…

[@djcudworth2355]

When you, Lebe, demonstrate the swing your head is forward and your chin is down. What is your reasoning for employing this position?

[@lebe-stark]

Hey DJ! We're employing the traditional girevoy/ kettlebell sport style method; as demonstrated with the Hand to Hand Swing. The focus of the Swing in general is focused on the hips. In the back swing position, the upper body follows with the spine in a straight line and the neck is relaxed to prevent unnecessary energy output. This concept called "eyes follow the bell" is taught by Steve Cotter from IKFF: Conserving your energy is a conerstone factor employed in girevoy/ kettleblel sport training. Additionally, contracting the muscles in your neck leads to the "broken neck syndrome"; an interesting aspect taught by Marc Ripetoe from StartingStrength. - Gregory

[@Bara_982]

The neck thing from ripp legit helped me upped my squat, although transitioning from a barbell squat to a kettlebell swing and trying to figure out where to look is quite jarring.

[@MD-yd8lh]

good stuff

[@lebe-stark]

Thank you! - Gregory

[@david.leikam]

I like Jack, though this seems like quick pop culture comedy skit in a way.

[@eyelovemakeup24]

I’m sorry, who are you? Where are you in relation to MW in the fitness industry ??? From where I’m sitting, this video is mad sketchy.. it feels like 6:44 mins of you criticizing someone that is epic and an amazing fitness trainer.....I suggest you watch ALL his videos. You might learn something.😳

[@lebe-stark]

Hey Theresa. If you‘re interested in who we are and what we do, check out some other content (or workouts) on our channel. 💪 - Gregory

[@steveoliv]

I’m a subscriber to MW and he’s amazing in my book. I believe LS is simply providing feedback and his opinion/reaction to MW video. Most of MW videos are geared towards “hard style” which is fantastic and lends well to this “nerd math” segment. LS is more of a sport style and he covers the benefits to his approach. LS and MW are both amazing instructors in their own right. Personally, I take what they both teach and apply it towards my training program. I take what works for me and my body. Kinda like what Bruce Lee did with martial arts. He took from all styles and threw away what didn’t work for him.

[@swoosh2835]

Before asking someone to watch ALL of someone else’s videos, you may want to take your own advice before asking who someone is. You’ll find out pretty quickly that he’s certified by Steve Cotter. And if you don’t know who Steve is, maybe read a little bit before asking who someone is or commenting on their video.

[@mrmunson5423]

As a trainer, I could see the coach is not very good really, but I don’t know him and I don’t wanna hate too much lol. 😀

[@lebe-stark]

Thanks for sharing! I don‘t consider critiquing something while staying respectful as hate. - Gregory

[@mrmunson5423]

Lebe Stark thanks mate, you were very respectful too. But you can see how loyal people are to their trainers, which comes from the support and advice that we offer, it is a very precarious line that we walk, I liked your video and the language you used.

[@MykalJS]

Mark is the best coach. Do you do anything other than criticize other coaches on KZbin? I

[@lebe-stark]

Reaction videos are just a small fraction of our kettlebell content. Check out our channel if you're interested! - Gregory

[@haroldpapillon4686]

You hit the nail right on top of the head bro

[@peterng25]

You also have more dislikes than likes...

[@lebe-stark]

Yes! We still actually think that this video was a solid reaction and that it wasn‘t intended to bash anyone involved. It seems this didn’t come across as such which is totally fine.

[@rsg833]

Mix feeling...... 🤔....

[@lebe-stark]

Why?

[@MichaelReich]

Nice english! Great Video!

[@lebe-stark]

Thanks for the feedback Michael! 💪😃

[@veerchasm1]

I don’t care for Mark’s teaching style. Without a diet change swinging a billion kettlebells won’t do a thing in the long run. Thanks for exposing this guy