Kevin (Phainon) & The 13 Flame-Chasers Explained! What Secret They Tell Us About Amphoreus 3.0

[@anthiknee5118]

My theory is that Phainon is the Emanator of Finality who is fighting against the fate of their world because he knows of the fate written by the “scripts” similar to Elio knowing the future aswell

[@VishyVashy-w9q]

My theory is that the Titans are actually very powerful Emenators specifically Emenators of Preservation , Order , Erudition, Remembrance and Finality.

[@VishyVashy-w9q]

Kephale created Amphoreus and made the calendar thus the passage of time and history , ‘calendar’ is one of the 7 virtues of Ena , and similar to all of Ena’s civilisations , THEIR civilisations had a golden age and then crumble. Nikador the Titan of Strife may be an Emanator of Preservation, as in the trailer , there are giant sword made of embers (They may be an emanator of destruction but ion think so as Nanook didn’t exist at that time )

[@VishyVashy-w9q]

The temple of the 3 fates and its priests are inspired by the Fates of Greek mythology , and in the trailer the narrator mentions the word “prophecy” which is heavily associated with the Finality

[@VishyVashy-w9q]

Cerces is obviously an Emanator of Erudition, because of his city having the name “epiphany” meaning revelation and him being the Titan of Reason

[@VishyVashy-w9q]

Thanatos may be an Emanator of Remembrance , as his name was derived from the Greek God of Death , specifically ‘natural death’ and his brother was Hypnos the God of Dreams/Sleep , these two themes are heavily connected with the Remembrance (Penacony with the whole ‘dream’ part = memoria etc.) and when someone dies , candles are lit , which is the logo for Remembrance path

[@VishyVashy-w9q]

Finally we have Aquila who may be an Emanator of Order , because they carefully observe human being from the sky and they are a huge eyeball

[@WalnutWife]

I can’t wait to have playable Kevin 😭 and get well soon to you and your family ❤

[@WhiteKoneko]

Greek/Roman mythology references spotted in trailer: -Janus, 3 Fates, & Themis -Nike, Ares, Alexander the Great, Atlas -River Styx, Hades, 3 plains of underworld, fairyman, Nyx & her kids(Thanatos, ect shes got very big family) -Demeter/Ceres, Orpheus, Hermes, Athena, Coeus, Metis -Aquila(eagle of Zeus)

[@elyxialuv]

as someone who is a honkai impact 3rd veteran, this video is absolutely perfect! i’m so excited to see the connections :D Elysian Realm = Remembrance so does that mean that amphoreus is some sort of simulated realm of remembrance? is that why no one can find it? that the flame chasers sacrificed themselves for humanity and so they eventually gave up their lives for it in amphoreus?

[@Leoctoraptor]

Probably. Black Swan said that Amphoreus can only be accessed through the Remembrance (IIRC), and Remembrance is all about memories. Elysian Ream are basically walking memories of the past too.

[@McDonaldCastorice]

​@@Leoctoraptor the remembrance preserve memories which means amphoreus is already gone and the remembrance created a way to preserve amphoreus means none of the character are all dead and are not real and it just a simulation But 2d waifu are already not real so does it really matter

[@darknessknows1235]

there's a chance Amphoreus are memetic entities but it's a huge stretch to say that the flamechasers deaths were somehow transferred over to Amphoreus when the simple explanation is that amphoreus is repeating the flamechasers as the universe/fate tends to do, not to mention we know that HI3 earth is untouched by aeons

[@LeanneKrv]

When you say the memories in Amphoreus being false, I think you might be correct. The 3.0 livestream showed how we are going to experience these "memories" and how the tales being told is a lie. I think you nailed it with Mythus having a play in this whole thing. I'm beyond excited and nervous for Amphoreus now😭

[@NiCeNuKNaN]

My wild theory about the Amphoreus plot is, the planet suffer and lose the wars for like eternity and then everything is reset and repeat the process of the wars. Some people may not remember about the past life, but some remember what they've been through so they're finding ways to break the cycle but fail to do so. The Astral Express arrives and try to help them break the cycle. MC get a new path "Rememberance" and gain a power to 'rewrite'. MC decides to rewrite the history of Amphoreus but with some consequences, and with these consequences made March 7th remembers something from her past and decide to "leave" the train for a while to track down her own memories.

[@sidlarson8374]

this gunna be so peak its not even funny can't wait for ampeakeus

[@2phee]

as someone who just started playing hi3 after hsr started adding references from it, and still didn't catch up on the story. This video is so informative, and actually made me make up my own theories. Thank you!!

[@alpaga4820]

I'm very excited about seeing Welt tweak tf out personally.

[@Tikeiji]

I'm more interested in if we're getting a variant of Dr. MEI in Amphoreus.

[@StoickTheTired]

Welt keeps going in for the hug and Phainon, being a Kaslana, confusingly accept it 🤣 Also I keep forgetting to bring this up, Kevin Kaslana's birthday is March 7th Yeah, Amphoreus can be considered the land of answers, probably Our favorite little sister is about to get stabbed

[@saahil0855]

God I am so excited...I just got a massive promotion in my job which almost doubled my salary and I am single my parents are well off too so I'll be swiping hard for all the flame-chasers I have played HI3 part 1 to it's fullest and I loved the Elysian Realm arc the most I knew I was gonna get Flame chasers expy when they released Genshin and I am still waiting but who knew it would be HSR to make it happen first.

[@SoloHashira]

My bank is jealous of this comment 😂😂😂 lucky devil you 🎉🫶🏾

[@lunachappell8981]

my only hope is that phainon doesnt become the villain cuz at least one variant of kevin deserves the happiness that kevin never could get

[@Heya-6]

Fr, if they're just gong to put him to become some sort of final boss, I quit. I've been waiting for these guys for years😭

[@TheGamerChronicles999]

Think they will take at the very least a more grey approach

[@kkorii5924]

its been leaked that he will be amphorous's protag. so the chances of him being a villain are low(tho there are rumours he will have a boss)

[@lunachappell8981]

@kkorii5924 never underestimate Hoyo Just because somebody is the protagonist doesn't mean that they can't be a villain which terrifies me because this man deserves happiness

[@DOOMSDAY500]

Amazing video, I’m just dying to see what they show on the Livestream on the 1st of January!

[@spacecat278]

I'm so hyped, I hope we get to see some deep lore in this story, if we get to see even a bit of what's talked about in this vid its gonna be peak

[@yl.f.t9438]

One of the 4 unrevealed characters will be the new versions of March 7 and Dan Heng

[@JonahYuu]

Doesn’t dan heng have a 5 star version already. Will there be a 3rd?

[@yl.f.t9438]

@JonahYuu The leaks confirmed that the mysterious character with a flame in his hand is identical to Dan Heng

[@darknessknows1235]

God ya'll are the worst. It is not that hard to keep your leaks to yourselves and on the apro videos/places

[@GabrielMichaelDels]

Funny enough Icarus is a character from Greek myth and Amphoreus is Greek based. Very nicely tied-in.

[@Ziegfrieed]

Hear me out, that’s gonna be a stretch BUT : from the first trailer, I kinda think we’re gonna experience Amph from the pov of Phainon, and since he’s referred to as the « Nameless » king… what if we are reliving the ascension of Akivili a.k.a Phainon ? I know it all rest on the first trailer in which we were shown after the Astral Express’ crew AND Phainon, but that would be cool 😅

[@rickelmehanwinckel2699]

Akivili never reached Amphoreous and they are born in pegana

[@Ziegfrieed]

@ didn’t say he was from Amphoreus tho, plus as far as I know when we refer to Akivili never reaching Amph it’s more like the train never reached it and never got trailblaze fuel power from it… anyway, Amph is around the corner

[@shinigamiryan5837]

It should be noted in the original teaser: a hand playing chess upside down matches one of the unnamed emanators of destruction. If Ena is involved, Xipe would be involved and the other emanator often emphasized when mentioning Ena is Qlipoth, the emanator of Preservation. The latter of which would be interesting if Amphorous were to be stabilized beyond Fuli. This isn't so out the considering Qlipoth's own abilities go beyond that. Though this would be a plot beat for after. Though Finality would be interesting, but they've ben teasing it along and well, how one experiences Finality in HSR. Destruction is certainly big factor considering the many overlapping images you get with the titans (golden blood, shackled hands, etc) so no doubt a stellaron is afoot and may be why outside is required as it should be stabilized in the Remembrance. But say a emanator had slipped in and things have changed. The loop created by Fuli is no longer stable and each time, it breaks down further with new variations. A move befitting a chess master. And of the paths, Remembrance's memokeepers aren't equipped to really tackle someone like Phantylia. But it'll help to see as The Herta herself getting involved possibly eludes to this being a key in the war of aeons and getting information that hasn't been seen directly since the likes of the Swarm Disaster itself. And if Amphorous does stabilize possibly due to these events, it may also become a place for future events.

[@zainei3915]

Hope you get better till the time of the 3.0 cuz what they have shown us in Live Stream is so fire

[@johnmanapol9734]

I want to see Welt's reaction when he sees Phainon(Kevin)

[@ChrisFoster-i3t]

Everytime I learn more and more about Amphorous that it seems more like the The Chrysos Heirs are stuck living in a stilmuation of their world fall over and over again, andIm starting to think Anaxa, Phanion, and Maybe Mydei or Algea or Castroice aree trying to figure out how to break free from it.

[@deltaparadise4402]

I love your idea about the 3rd aeon being finality, because I'd make so much sense. I hadn't even thought about that I had always thought I'd probably be destruction. And I definitely agree that there's no way that if this is all a simulation of some kind, that in modern times Phainon is just dead. I think that the transition in the trailer between Phainon and the Trailblazer is no coincidence.. I think considering the TBs connection to the finality I'd be pretty interesting if they gave them more of a connection other than "the male TB is just a Kevin/Phainon look alike" like Caelus's similarity to Phainons model is too uncanny to be a coincidence. Maybe a possible connection to the TBs past? I don't think the whole thing with Phainon being Elio really holds any weight though, considering the interaction between the Rememberance and the TB roleplaying as Akilivi in Hertas SU. The Rememberance calls Akivili "Elio" at least I'm pretty sure. So considering that I'd think his fate in Amphoreus is probably something else. Though I think that him being the Finality would be super interesting. Anyways I hope all of this makes sense. Love your videos man! Hope you are feeling better

[@afiqjohny4017]

I don't think this planet will be a memories of the past because if I'm not wrong, Amphoreus theme is Time Rewind & Time Bending + Amphoreus planet design is infinity, so the "Eternal Land" here probably because the time loop. We focused to much on Elysia Realm because the similarities between Chrysos Heirs and Flame Chasers

[@strxrry_ace]

this world definetly has to have something to do with aeons, it could be some information they want or something they want especially because theres three of them watching over the world, phainon becoming an aeon or someone else becoming an aeon could happen and maybe thats why the aeons are watching over like that

[@dorowoj4765]

This instalment will be just so epic. I am going crazy.

[@wilsonfisher5011]

Kevin being Elio or the aeon of finality is sick

[@NajmUltra]

Fuli is here cuz of the new path , and this is about March 7th origin , getting 5 Star march with her true self.

[@aquawiz428]

Perhaps in this arc we can witness the birth of an aeon which can then stabilize the Eternal Land allowing us to revisit it.

[@hensa8052]

Damn hoyo has really delayed genshin drip marketing twice to give the spotlight to hsr, peak marketing 🔥

[@moraceae]

tbh they are doing genshin so dirty now and it's not even a joke that genshin is their least likeable child by them

[@hensa8052]

​@@moraceae yeah, they also moved the hsr livestream to genshin's update day and will gave out 100 pulls, so everyone will forget about genshin in just one day 😂

[@heppelhopv2]

​@@hensa8052 Please tell you're not lying about 100 pulls..

[@Dave102693]

@@moraceaejust like how Honkai Impact got replaced in marketing by GI and HSR.

[@Pleibae]

@@heppelhopv2 i doubt it is that they will give out 100 pulls but that the entire amphorous arc will allow you to grind for that many pulls f2p

[@nicholas549]

I don't know if the third aeon is nanook, but i think a lord ravager will be there. It's said that one of the lord ravager likes playing chess (i don't remember the name) and we see a chessboard in the trailer

[@Ceciisgamer]

poor welt is gonna lose is god damn mind when he sees kevin

[@rengoku_no_oni8647]

I'm still of the idea that Scaramouche is the real Raiden Mei of Genshin and not Ei

[@Spirngie]

Acheron is also named after a greek river, maybe she might also make it there, maybe Black Swan's response to the new year questions is foreshadowing?

[@simplyhaniya]

get well soon and take care bro

[@nyxissleepy0125]

I am *so* prepared to cry over the Flamechasers again

[@Domak04]

Awesome video! Feel better soon dude!

[@TheGamerChronicles999]

😊 thanks

[@Agilku117]

I'm so excited to see the story in the game.

[@waddahrasengan3414]

Somebody just wrongly pronounced Paimon's name

[@karbonis2882]

Since The herta will be playable in 3.0 im speclating that maybe we would enter amphoreous through the simulated universe if the planet really does not exist anymore, maybe that infinity symbol thingy we saw in the trailers is like data or a memory bubble thingy and can be manipulated by the herta.

[@darknessknows1235]

except we already know the GoR will open the way to amphoreus because it's an actual place

[@Twin227]

The third Aeon is Aha because of Kevin's dad jokes so THEY will want to throw hands with him THEMSELVES

[@kienphucnguyen2001]

They will tell us that shaoji is coming back

[@brightpool353]

I hope you get better!

[@Outerringfuelgod]

bro got the pneumonia

[@graenovember]

phainon became the aeon of destruction, Nanook. that’s my theory.

[@josepheliann2198]

What if we find the 3rd way to kill an Aeon?

[@ppoyorinn_art]

:(

[@enjumamoru6513]

the interesting thing is we can travel to earth and meet kiana if we would want, kiana is kevin, kevin is kiana... we are kiana/kevin from what acheron said, hi3 have kiana and kevin, acheron meet kiana and killed kevin... her kiana or our kiana is in IX probably dead but i feel like she survived xd what if we are that person that kiana she saw? and entered IX? maybe it was us... so thats why acheron knows stellarion hunters too... if that true then IX making problems with memory thats why we dont remember anything... thats why we lost powers when we left IX insides... and kafka used stellarion power on us so we dont have blue eyes but yellow/gold... and have gray hire not white?... possible? possible... generally i feel like kiana kevin kiana kevin kiana kevin the whole hs3 hi3 story maybe even genshin xdd Kevin/Kiana everywhere :D if IX is making problems with memory then Remembrance should fix it. march... traiblazer...

[@jeshuaavila1620]

The new trailer makes me go mentally in different direction definitely needs analysis. As the city with scale may represent the equilibrium but also Oronyx disapearing could be finality and Aeon effecting Amphoreus might not be remebrance but finality trapping the world in a time loop cause of the stellaron granting a wish of an eternal land. Could be a tale of flamechasers turning into titans and then the cycle repeats. Or Amphoreus might be a micro aeon war what if it is a simulated universe cause the titan keeping the mist away reminds me of preservation holding back the swarm. Have to wait for more info to understand the story

[@xcaedes]

Nice hyrule castle theme in the beginning

[@reijoshualadjahasan]

that ball thingie that the Atlas guy is carrying kinda reminds me of the greater grail from the fate universe... and well mydei is clearly a Gilgamesh reference soooo I guess that thing is also a fate reference

[@arkreborn5961]

I just hope after amphoreus we go to melustanin where Idrila came from

[@paradozx]

Can't wait for the overvalued elysia to take over kevin in the story like it happened in hi3rd...... o I forgot part of that will be taken by the trailblazer I already see it coming. Good video by the way

[@rillzy9637]

Kevin got totally 👍 overshadowed by Ely. Frfr. Like I love her but Kevin needs more praise.

[@Katara-kr9xg]

Going all in on well all of them ngl❤

[@karmagakunyaa]

Still feeling that the 3 paths related here are finality, preservation, order

[@rickelmehanwinckel2699]

It is remenbrance erudition and the other is still a mistery

[@karmagakunyaa]

@rickelmehanwinckel2699 I don't really believe that.

[@rickelmehanwinckel2699]

@@karmagakunyaa you don't need to believe its said and confirmed already.

[@karmagakunyaa]

@@rickelmehanwinckel2699 i have other reasons why I believe it is these three. Don't need to talk further.

[@ooo-w8v2n]

3 aeons are over amphoreous 1 - Remembrance 2 - Erudition 3 - ???

[@shaishi-chan2666]

I just made a theory. Probably unrelated to the video, I'm 2 mins into it. hear me out: Elysia (of Amphoreus) = March 7th I've got no evidence, but think about it Both are: - Pink Haired - Bow users - Ice Users - Extroverted - Pink eyed with elements of blue in some parts - Very kind - Continously and Repeatedly trying to save Humanity This theory holds no ground bassically, it just came to me suddenly, but I thought I'd share. Have an amazing day everyone!

[@rzhecheah4114]

The only question now on my mind is....i will fate stay tonight ?

[@bloodstabber7251]

Get well soon bud

[@Axieal-Limitless]

1:53 YOU HAVE A CHILD?!

[@TheGamerChronicles999]

I have 2 lol

[@Axieal-Limitless]

@TheGamerChronicles999 damn bro, didn't know you were that old man

[@TheGamerChronicles999]

@Axieal-Limitless man now I'm feeling old haha jk I'm 30 this year so ya getting their

[@Axieal-Limitless]

@@TheGamerChronicles999 I just turned 20 in November man ...

[@TheGamerChronicles999]

@@Axieal-Limitless Man that was me yesterday it feels like

[@enjumamoru6513]

blood nanook, black ball IX, kevin finality, kevin probably is alive but he ca nbe in the end aeon of finality and evil one? that lost all? who knows, nanook appear? if nikadon nikador isnt him then he dont be here but i feel like nanook reason is revenge/madness? more like to destroy all also aeons, euqlibrum/xipe/ena? idk interesting too. but from what i heard? here should be IX even if he shouldnt antagonist but more like naturla lazy disaster black hole, one titan/good become mad and fight vs others where ouroboros trying to eat them? or destroy? or one other aeon made him evil to make war to let IX eat all? instead of defent and run? idk xd hard topic

[@UndyingFlamess]

Amphoreus is like the 3rd planet we visit like inazuma in genshin and it has the eternity thingy which also raiden wanted to do ..and ena of the order reminds me of zhongli being the oldest of archons and likes order and such ..they also the same that in the story they like..dead or somth at 1st but we are not sure ....i feel like some events in hoyo games not only they similar but also runs at same base or somth like that....THE herta somehow reminds me of hexenzirke members of genshin ....they have so much knowledge and powers

[@blackmark2899]

It better not be Elysian Realm 2. We don't need to experience the memory of events, just let us be in the actual events. Copying the entire premise of the Flamechasers from HI3 would be some peak braindead work and legit piss me off.

[@rillzy9637]

The writer from Otto’s arc is writing Amphoreus so it shouldn’t be identical

[@Xenosix]

Gilgamesh

[@Jihi]

Just get better man.

[@TheGamerChronicles999]

Almost back to normal thanks!

[@Maxwell34-s2q]

ayo

[@ikoko-zn4gn]

Man

[@MichaelScarn-cq3lx]

first!

[@SoloHashira]

Didn't like penacony too much 😂

[@deonteswanier6618]

there is one.. genius society member who may know of Amphoreous.... besides Herta. Too bad no one has seen her face... just like most people haven't seen Amphor- 🫣🫣🫣🤫