KEY DIFFERENCES: Garmin Livescope vs Panoptix SIDE BY SIDE Comparison

[@AlexTimm]

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[@glenndaugherity6187]

Glad I found this Alex myself I have Panoptix and I use the bottom fill feature a lot and that helps with identifying fish tight to the bottom. Like anything else the more you use it the better you get at what it’s trying to tell you ! The ability for it to show you how many fish are around compared to a flasher is HUGE. I also like using it a lot more ice fishing than open water seems open water your messing more around with the unit than fishing.

[@AlexTimm]

Glad you found it too! Agreed, the more you use it the better you get with it and dial it in!

[@trestongonzales6853]

Hey man, just got this a week ago! What’s some settings you recommend for ice fishing,?

[@tacohell]

Great comparison. I have the PS22 and was wondering what I was missing for $1K... I'll get the LVS32 when they come out with a version 2 and the prices drop for it. My electronics cost almost as much as my boat.

[@AlexTimm]

Thank you, glad you got some value out of it. I will for sure be posting more comparisons as I get out more with it. Do you only open water fish or are you in an area where you can ice fish too? (I hear you on the value of the electronics vs the boat haha!)

[@varnchavez]

@@AlexTimm Only open water.. no ice fishing in Phoenix. :-)

[@AlexTimm]

@@varnchavez Oh! Yeah, I don't think Phoenix gets cold enough for ice fishing 😂

[@adamr8628]

True about electronics costing as much (or more) than a boat. I have a Lund 1850 Tyee with a Mercury 100 and a Evinrude 90 as a backup motor, and bow mount Minn Kota. Repainted the boat motor trailer, so looks nice.. I have 1400 invested in everything listed above. But when it comes to electronics, deals are not as steeply discounted.

[@varnchavez]

@@AlexTimm Just got my LVS32 since the LVS34 came out, the 32's have come down in price a bit (nused). Will try it out in the next few weeks.

[@qouavang3646]

Hey can you help with my uhd 93v live scope combo.... not sure what to do on first start up screen, can you do a video on that. No clue to use powerboat or sail boat? Etc etc I'm only using for ice fishing

[@AlexTimm]

I'll look at it and see what I can pull together

[@qouavang3646]

@Alex Timm thank you and, all your videos have been so great full and full of knowledge

[@smor37]

Why is your livescope only showing in 2d and not clear view? Are you not using the black box?

[@AlexTimm]

These are split screen with Livescope on one side and Panoptix on the other. I am using the blue color pallette which is probably what has you confused as you might be used to seeing Amber used with Livescope

[@mobilesecure]

Thanks for the review. What is the top fish detection sensor for the Garmin echomap ultra 102 today? Garmin Lvs34? Thanks in advance.

[@ryanoleston7136]

Do you have any other videos on how to use the ps22? I picked one up at the end of ice season and I haven't spent the time to figure out how to use it effectively.

[@AlexTimm]

I have a couple others out on the livescope but not on the PS22 yet (I will be working on putting more out though). The operation is nearly identical to the livescope transducer with just a few small differences. Do you have any specific questions or videos you want to see? I can try and get you more on what specifically you need if you have those questions too. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@Thereeloutdoorsmn]

Do you think it’s worth the extra money for the livescope?

[@AlexTimm]

Absolutely!

[@Thereeloutdoorsmn]

Yea i got the lvs 34 ice bundle but with a 106 screen

[@madam497]

Panoptix still very fun on the ice. I use it in downview inside the portable for those who don't like to hole hop. I'm outside with the livescope and a flasher chasing fish..

[@m.t.n.vaults5689]

Panoptics, livescope, or livescope plus for ice fishing your opinion?

[@AlexTimm]

Livescope Plus is definitely a step up over the livescope for ice fishing (even more so than open water in my opinion) and both in a completely different league than the panoptics for ice fishing

[@northcastfishing]

Good video but your ps22 setting should be adjusted I think. I have no problem seeing a 2 inch bait at 30 ft when dropshotting.

[@trestongonzales6853]

What’s your settings man??

[@CrispyStrahan]

@@trestongonzales6853i also need settings. My ps-21 is very very muddy and can barely see my bait.

[@zbassr2106]

Awesome video brotha! Would like to see a side by side comparison vertical jigging in deeper water. The lvs32 is crap at tracking lures over 80 plus ft. Keep then coming and I'll keep watchin!

[@tidelybumsquish]

You need to couple a standard ice fishing ducer and rock the split screen

[@zbassr2106]

@@tidelybumsquish yes, but thats no fun 😆. Folks who bought livescope want live imaging not a generated mark that goes up and down.

[@tidelybumsquish]

@@zbassr2106 still can't beet a standard narrow beam for deep water

[@btv1676]

Does the panoptix also require the black box?

[@AlexTimm]

No it does not 😊

[@btv1676]

Can livescope do the 3d view like panoptix

[@tidelybumsquish]

I have the ps 22. Its amazing for ice fishing just not to good over 50 ft

[@AlexTimm]

Yeah, I've found it to work great for ice fishing too!

[@FLIOWA]

Great video. I learned exactly what I’ve been wondering. Thank you

[@AlexTimm]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Northern_Bass_Ninja]

Older video but I appreciate it! Looking to grab some older live tech and this was great for making a determination on purchase.

[@brandonsanford5173]

What did you go with?

[@rontracy25]

thanks for making this video. you just saved me a lot of money ill wait for the next gen technology and stick w my ps 22 for now!

[@chadcatbird836]

If you adjust the settings on the panoptix you could see things

[@donmcilroy]

Fishing with the PS-22 for a few weeks now and I can tell you need to dial your sensitivity up on the PS-22. If you plan on primarily using down view in deeper water (50-100) the PS-22 will do a better job and give you a larger 2D return. This helps especially if you have a smaller 7-9 inch screen. Jigging Lake trout in 100 feet of water, you won't be happy with the LS. Easiest way to think about this is comparing it to standard 2D sonar and "Structure Scan". They both have a place and time in my opinion.

[@AlexTimm]

Thanks for the pointers and tips. I'll try dialing up my gain a bit on the PS22 and see the difference

[@kidfabulous4729]

Are you saying that the panoptix is better for deep water trout fishing? Also, is the ps-21 a side only scan?

[@ipoopinwalmart5968]

I heard livescope has a lot of dead zones is this true? That has stopped me from buying the transducer. I've been looking into the PS22 but that isn't as clear. I recently sold my Helix units and got Garmin but now I'm thinking I made a mistake because of mega live. But I'm assuming that will have dead zones as well but only time will tell. Still undecided on what transducer to get tho lol.

[@AlexTimm]

I haven't had a major issue with dead zones with the LiveScope transducer, and from my understanding it is tied to the noise rejection setting pretty significantly. I have a video on how to fix the "ghost tree" which talks a bit about it and you might find helpful if you haven't seen it yet kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGHIl2qOhJKGhNk The PS22 has its strengths (longer range, no issues of ghost tree or dead zones, no interlacing issues) and obvious weaknesses vs livescope (not nearly as clear, not great bottom separation, harder to identify specific fish or fish in weeds). But depending on what you are targeting they each have their place in my opinion. I believe I will be using both heavily this winter on the ice.

[@ipoopinwalmart5968]

@@AlexTimm I'm not very big into pan fishing. I mainly fish walleye and muskie. During the hard water season I'm mainly catching walleye. But I'll put my IFishPros out for some pike here and there. Thanks for the tips.

[@AlexTimm]

@@ipoopinwalmart5968 Anytime! Good luck this season and stay tuned as I will be posting up a lot of ice fishing videos using both the panoptix and livescope targeting Walleye too!

[@ipoopinwalmart5968]

@@AlexTimm thanks and good luck to you as well and I can't wait. Hopefully I will have my mind made up before ice season on what transducer I want. So I can video game fish lol.

[@AlexTimm]

@@ipoopinwalmart5968 It is fun and addicting. Hard to go back to just a flasher after using it! Plus, you learn a lot about structure and fish behavior!

[@RushVoorhisOutdoors]

Interested in the ps22 Ice fishing videos

[@AlexTimm]

Thanks for letting me know!

[@jimknowles5483]

Thanks again!

[@AlexTimm]

Absolutely! Let me know if you have any questions at all Jim. More than happy to answer them or if a common question make a video on it for you

[@rtaylor054]

Would love to see more ps22 video as I do allot of open water fishing for suspended crappie. Really having dead zone issues with the LVS32 that I don't think anyone has with the ps22. I'm willing to trade off detail for no dead spots! Thanks!

[@AlexTimm]

Awesome, I will for sure be making more with the PS22. And you are correct, I haven't heard of any dead spot issues with the PS22 (which makes sense as it is only the one sonar surface vs 3 with the LVS32; so no stitching of the beams needs to happen which is where the issue of the dead zone happens). As always thanks for watching and commenting! 👍👍

[@rtaylor054]

Thanks, I really appreciate you doing this comparison. Would love to see more where both forward ranges are equal. Do you have any issue with crosstalk between the PS22 and the LVS32? Thanks!!!

[@AlexTimm]

​@@rtaylor054 Yeah, I will do them with the same forward ranges to compare, I've found the livescope is pretty much a crapshoot after about 70' forward whereas if you are deep enough the Panoptix can easily shoot 100'+ so that comparison will be good. I've not noticed any crosstalk between them at all which is really nice to see

[@rtaylor054]

Thanks! I less interested in the range as I seldom search beyond 70'. Would love to see a side by side comparison with a range of around 40' in 20 to 30 fow, possibly with a brushpiles as well. This situation is where my dead spot shows up worse. Appreciate any helpful videos. Looks like the PS22 will fit my needs!

[@TheNoobComment]

Lifescope ftw but damn...the price.

[@AlexTimm]

Yeah, definitely an investment!

[@adamr8628]

I like the blobs better

[@AlexTimm]

I've heard others say that too

[@adamr8628]

@@AlexTimmInteresting. I was half joking, but also half serious. Haha.. But I do like features of both options.

[@AlexTimm]

Let me know what you think of the Panoptix vs Livescope transducers. Which one do you have or are you looking at? 👉 Check out all my Garmin Tips & How To Videos: t.ly/Tthm

[@TysonBaisacOutdoors]

You have to adjust your ps22 lol