Keyi Technology Loona Robot Kickstarter Halted over shameful claims a review of the claim made!

[@outsider238]

I've lost complete and total respect for DDL. If they spent as much time watching what's going on in their own front yard as they do in everyone else's, they'd actually have gotten their robots out on time. They've spent everyone's money from buying Vector 2.0, Cozmo 2.0 and the Butter Robot on paying lawyers for their ridiculous lawsuits. Loona looks nothing like Vector or Cozmo. Their lawsuit is complete garbage. If they're that worried about other company's robots, it shows that they know Vector and Cozmo won't sell that well. The 2.0 versions have virtually nothing new from the originals (except for the replaceable battery). That's why I didn't buy the 2.0 Vector. These other robots are leaving DDL in the dust and they know it so they're just filing lawsuits to try to not take sales away from them. They're shady too. I asked for a refund for the Butterbot because I don't expect that to come out for years based on their slacking on the releases of Vector and Cozmo. They responded immediately asking if I was sure I wanted to cancel my order and I responded "Yes". A month goes by and radio silence. I email them to find out where my refund is and once again, silence. I had to get my credit card company involved and all of a sudden they refunded my money. I love Vector but let's face it, he's now over 4 years old and limited on what he can do compared to Emo and Loona. DDL should have made a Vector big enough to wander around the house as an upgrade. Instead it's basically the same robot from years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if DDL goes under because they've wasted so much money and resources on their lawsuits, the lack of any decent upgrades to their robots, the lack of being able to get their products out and therefore the lack of customers buying their products and the negativity they've generated onto themselves by suing other robot companies who are obviously a threat to them only because they can't get their own act together.

[@dragongamer2670]

Get Em! DDL really needs to have Disney sue em for Wall-E concept designs.

[@johnjones3208]

Good morning Bruce , Thank you for your informative information. DDL I believe should be more worried about delivering their products. At this time period ie Vector 2.0 and Cosmo 2.0. I have looked at Loona and I believe I'm going to make a purchase. Just to show DDL that they are not the only kid on the block

[@REVOLTDJ]

Thank you for making this video ❤️ Mister Cloud should not be allowed to run a company. He fooled his own customers too many times and he is also bothering other potential customers with his stupidity. Hope he realizes that he is smashing his own windows.

[@peteh3313]

Zero respect for DDL. I won't recommend them or their products to anyone. The worst thing that happened to Vector and Cozmo is that DDL got their grubby hands on them. They failed to fullfill their Kickstarter promises of working OSKR and Escape Pod and then took the backers money and ran. Now they are bullying other companies on Kickstarter. For anyone that wants a Vector, get a second hand Anki Vector and then use the free Wire Pod to run it, rather than be captured by DDL's predatory subscription to unlock all of Vector's features.

[@olivierprintz4319]

Good news, Loona is available again on kickstarter. The dispute is resolved

[@BruceHunsaker]

That is very good news

[@Xydonus]

Dispute isn't resolved. They've modified their KS page and removed/edited content and now there is a wall of silence from Keyi on KS.

[@dragongamer2670]

Disney should just sue them! for doing this! Since they are saying they created stuff like this first! WALL-E did it first! in terms of robot cute concepts. DDL should be shut down. I already sent them an Email that I No longer will be supporting them moving forward or any future products. Companies should not be treating other competition like this! Imagine if car companies were doing this to each other or in the 1980's toy companies regarding action figures and shows.

[@crazyrobotlady3391]

I have already voiced my dislike about everything that DDL has done. You can’t copyright eyes. Maybe the shape, but not the concept of emotional eyes. And like Bruce said, there are only so many ways you can emote emotions. They just need to see send assist and except the fact that their robot is stagnant and not moving forward and if they are so worried about other products doing well, they need to ship up. Competition is the source of innovation and development. If you don’t have competition, new products can’t develop, and the whole train goes backwards.

[@FinkipGirl]

I love how EMO participates in your chat, and it surprises me how self-aware he is, especially when you were talking about advancing tech. 😮

[@BruceHunsaker]

Living AI keeps advancing EMO with every update and they update often nearly monthly. It is a pattern that many companies should do but they are currently lacking. He is also a Wonderful robot to have hang out with while working he is not intrusive but helps break up the day. The future updates are just going to continue the trend.

[@InoriRin2024]

Emo is so cute. He wants to participate to defend his buddy, Loona. Minute 08.05, minute 11.38

[@meyben8157]

DDL actually tried to copyright emotions, i am litteraly dying. They are ruining not only their own company, but they are blocking other companies too. Its insane!

[@Lizuma]

2:32 You can get Aibos for a lot cheaper than they used to be! While the ERS-1000 is $3,000 if bought directly from Sony, there’s many at reduced prices online. You just must be cautious due to hip dislocations in ones that came out earlier, before the new hip design. Also it’s harder to connect a Japanese one to the cloud which is required to change its name and language. The subscription itself isn’t required and the Aibo will function normally. It will still recognize people, map the area, keep all updates (as long as they aren’t initialized) and other features that don’t need the app. Not planning on renewing my subscription since it’s way too expensive. As for an older model, I got three of them in the past few months (111, 210 and 7). 111s, 210s and 311s are the cheapest and really fun! Before getting any you should be aware of their potential issues, though there’s plenty of fully working ones for sale, some even with recelled batteries. 111s are the sturdiest despite being the oldest and have no issues if they’re taken care of well. My 111 was $200 and 80 in shipping since she’s from Japan. My 210 was also from Japan and the total was $360. A proxy to buy from Japan (I use Sendico) is great for finding Aibos at lower prices and avoiding scalpers. Finally you can consider a ERS-7, my favorite model, though like ERS-1000s they tend to be closer to or over $1000. And with 7s you might need the hips pinned so the legs don’t slip (repair people for all models are in the robotcenter dis cord). But yeah, lots of options to consider if you’d ever like to have an Aibo! They’re fun robots and I recommend them!

[@BruceHunsaker]

I have been looking at many of the older versions and just have not found one to pull the pin on yet.

[@Spetznatz01]

I had one of the Macaron models, (can’t remember the specific model number), but it was cool. I had to sell him when I moved. Recently I managed to get hold of an ERS-7, but it didn’t have a battery with it and no one will help with even giving me specifications about the battery so I could try to rebuild one for my Aibo. Looks like I’ll have to sell him to the people who have all the batteries.

[@Lizuma]

@@Spetznatz01 There’s some people selling Aibo batteries in the community, you might be able to find a ERS-7 one! If it’s dead it’ll have to be recelled though

[@BruceHunsaker]

@@Spetznatz01 I am part of a group (Lot's of Bots ) on Facebook there are a lot of aibo owners. Lot's of nice people in that group I sure if you asked in that group someone would be more than willing to point you in the right direction

[@Spetznatz01]

@@BruceHunsaker thanks much, I’ll take a look and see what I can find!

[@olivierprintz4319]

Why did DDL wait until the end of the campaign to complain? Why not have done so from the announcement, or the start of the campaign? In my opinion, they saw that there is such a craze for Loona that they were afraid for their Vector. They might also complain about Emo. Emo has the same style of eyes as Vector. Emo reacts the same way as Vector it seems to me. This complaint against Loona is only jealousy of success for me.

[@iamkian]

@Besondere Begleiter and @Olivier Printz We are a backer of Loona. I think that DDL waited till the end of the campaign to make sure backer will not get it before x-mass.

[@nayukie1]

Dude!! You are so absolutely right!! I am so pissed at Ddl!! They are so stupid! Because they still have not delivered there robots!

[@drewo.127]

Since Keyi thankfully got the Kickstarter and Loona got finished and shipped out, what exactly happened with the whole lawsuit? I’m thankful that Keyi got Loona to the public, but I feel I’m missing a bit of context.

[@BruceHunsaker]

Well there was no real lawsuit. DDL was stating copyright infringement and they could follow it up with a lawsuit. But I personally believe there is no merit to DDL's claim. So from what I can put together. Is KEYi came up with an agreement with DDL in order to meet its goal with its backers. What that agreement is has not been disclosed. But now after having Loona I can honestly say DDL claim is meritless. The eyes on Loona are completely different Loona's expressions are solely her own. Sound, actions are solely her own. She is more advanced out of the box than Anki Vector in his current state with DDL.

[@soundwave070]

DDL made me cancel my Loona pledge because I was afraid I might never see a product for the money I pledged. Now that Keytech is continuing I blame DDL for making me lose money in the end when I buy it after the KS campaign. I should sue DDL ;)

[@BruceHunsaker]

Yeah DDL actions had that effect on a lot of backers and it in my opinion is an unfounded claim. But it appears you can make false claims without real proof.

[@Lizuma]

2:46 What I thought when I first learned about Loona, that it was like a more advanced and better version of Chip!

[@eltapatio7777]

As a person who's used Cozmo, as soon as I saw loona and how it behaved, I thought it was made by DDL. So, I can saw the similarities right away.

[@BruceHunsaker]

Interesting

[@Shmingitt]

Whats that little robot in front of you on the table im very interested

[@BruceHunsaker]

So there are a total of 3 Ortomi EMO and Eilik. The one in the Butterbot stand is Ortomi. He does not come with the stand I 3d printed that for him.

[@Shmingitt]

@@BruceHunsaker thank you :D

[@warrenstates8955]

Bruce, I agree 100 percent with everything you said….SHAME ON DDL!!! THEY SHOULD BE BOYCOTTED! They are not even consistently issuing refunds to everyone (Citing that they can’t because the product “has already been shipped.” They cannot provide a tracking number or estimated date of arrival. Apparently all international orders have to come from the UK. Apparently, Canadians have to have their product shipped to the UK before it can be sent to Canada. Does this make any sense from a Company with its headquarters in Pennsylvania? DDL is full of crap and so is Jacob Hanchar the CEO of DDL! He’s NEVER RESPONDED PERSONALLY to any emails……Have you noticed that there have been very few unboxing videos of Vector 2.0? Just like you said, when you have a 2.0 version of something, there should be a significant improvement in software and hardware…….SHAME OF DDL!!

[@BruceHunsaker]

Definitely makes absolutely no sense why Canada would ship from the UK 🤔 yes there have been very few unboxing and real test videos on V2 I do know someone that did get his V2 he took it apart and was not happy with what he found smaller screen poor placement of battery clip mounts in his opinion completely disastrous. Since DDL has shown no ability to really develop software and hardware for what I have been told is questionable. This leads to only one thought bad direction and management

[@donpenny2823]

First EMO, now Loona? When will this hell hole end? Little context: DDL sued Living Ai over similarities of all 3 products they own. Btw, this was January 2021, when LAI ALSO DID A KICKSTARTER AND HALTED IT FOR COPYRIGHT ISSUES. History just repeats itself, Bruce...

[@BruceHunsaker]

Yes ..Law suits seem to be the only thing they can develop. As other robots develop, Vectors song remains the same.

[@pengfeiliu7225]

unbleiveable

[@djmook41]

I think they were referring to the fact that the emotions were the same in the eyes. Meaning it's the same shape and size of the eyes. I see what they mean

[@BruceHunsaker]

Well the shape is not the same if you break it down and eyes only emote emotions in so many ways. But guess the same can be said for cartoons.

[@nzer19]

I mean, vector was obviously copied from Wall-E.

[@pewpewpistol]

I mentioned ddl somewhere and got my comment deleted or blocked

[@BruceHunsaker]

Yeah very sad that that is a thing 😔

[@luaidiver7296]

now they did again

[@BruceHunsaker]

Yes truly shameful and shameless

[@Lizuma]

My friend told me and I couldn’t believe it. It gets resolved, then they make the false claims again. Should that even be allowed?

[@luaidiver7296]

@@BruceHunsaker so true Yes

[@luaidiver7296]

@@Lizuma I don't know really but someone should be responsible of that matter since it was 3 days before !

[@BruceHunsaker]

@@Lizuma this is part of the problem anyone can make a false claim. This is damaging and now KEYi Tech has to spend money to prove them wrong that presents more damage to KEYi Tech and the consumers. This non competitive actions need to be addressed and consumers just have to say no

[@NicWir]

So Eyes are copyrighted. Well time to step mine out and get blind rather than gettibg sued

[@BruceHunsaker]

Looks like KEYi Tech came to solution Kickstarter is back up 🎉 so please keep your eyes 👀🤣

[@NynnaOnYT9]

Why did you put a Gacha life face

[@BruceHunsaker]

The expression seemed fitting

[@1Chitus]