J. Krishnamurti - Ojai 1984 - Public Talk 2 - What is wrong with pleasure?

J. Krishnamurti - Ojai 1984 - Public Talk 2 - What is wrong with pleasure?
Summary:
What is order?
Learning implies a constant movement, observation without a motive.
Why have I sought pleasure all my life? What is wrong with pleasure?
Can fear ever end or must it be the burden of humanity everlastingly?
Is your brain passionate enough to find out?
What is going to happen to the brain when the computer can do almost everything?
How can I stop the movement of time and thought? Is that the right question?
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We the world, needs the points dear Sir K told and live life with that compession. Love 💞 simple and clear 🙏🍀🌻

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[@bartroberts3634]

raised a Christian,family not big church goers.I often wondered why if the Jesus preached is real why so many Christians are so unhappy,goes for all the other religions too!

[@jasmineleigh2275]

It is not about what is said or what is not said this is the fact of the speaker. These are just thoughts and beliefs of the content of the brain which makes up the human mind. What is beyond the known content is what the speaker is pointing at. What takes places beyond this mind? Who is “me” what is this content and what goes beyond this content. Find that,

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Be who you are and not what you think you should be.

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Who you are is actually your past.

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1:04:45 Precious patience ... all his life helping us learn lesson 1 ...

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[@aotlovers9721]

However in every possible way i try to convince myself i m humanity and humanity is me But I don't really see the actuality it it doesn't seem obvious and reality to me... I don't know why

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[@JazevoAudiosurf]

every time you say 'I' there is an identification. you say I understand, but in reality there is understanding which is observed. when you say I understand, you or at least 'I' identify with the understanding, which is the end of the observation of understanding. in that way it hinders the thinking. when you say I understand, there is a small moment where you get confused, which is very subtle. in that moment you get distracted and drawn into the confusion. we got used to it so we can handle it, but it is much more "productive" to think without these stops. now this happens all the time, not just with the use of 'I'. when there is constant and unhindered stream of thought, it is much more beneficial for understanding concepts. now of course this makes you look like an alien to people, if you don't use words like 'I', but that is precisely how far we have accumulated confusion, that language itself adds massively to confusion.

[@RaushanKumar-sd5qn]

wow

[@anejaG55]

Man will choose entertainment. So true in 2021

[@VIKASKUMAR-hg5gp]

Remarkable that psychologically, time is enemy coz what you're now same you are tomorrow. Now is past present and future.

[@metipallearuna223]

I was always striving in trying to understand the Hindu concept of learning verbal meaning of as might as we call: the atman: that is mistaken to be alive and the opposite of living by its gaitability and the opposite mistaken identification when its movements on the pair of false walking legs appear noticeable as the atman In One-hundred millionth of an atom in the body.

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[@KINGJUNAID555]

39:33 On Pleasure

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I am sorry sir. you're grate. Please🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@nitinramola954]

The non Popularity of this content explains a lot about "Us" the "Society". We have made artificial conclusions which inturn has put our intelligence or simply ability to question to Sleep. I wonder where did he missed to connect with masses.

[@helenamaria710]

He connected. But few could/can really grasp it. At the center in Chennai, where I stayed a few years back, some of K's basic requirements set by him are respected. No pictures of him on the walls, no bells etc. BUT in the eating hall the members from his schools and other foundations often convene and it is the same old same old as they impress each other with their economic credentials etc. The Indian mindset prevails while they try to intellectually grasp 'the observer is the observed'. If you go out for the day they ask why you didn't tell them 'so they could calculate' how much food to prepare, or if you don't come for dinner, someone will come to ask you to join. You can see how those 'meditation concentration camps' - as K called them - so easily come into being. Cults. The books are there and the youtube videos are wonderful. DON'T THINK is REALLY the key to living - in the way he tries so hard to explain.

[@srinivasarao6171]

Sir, may I ask what is popularity and what is it to connect with the masses? Propaganda and popularity go together. So connecting with the masses is nothing but propaganda. Here we are dealing with a holistic approach to life. In cleansing the consciousness of oneself one is also cleansing the consciousness of the whole of humanity --- if only one has the energy, the passion and the vitality to travel that far with a sustained energy. If one is rather slack or lazy or mediocre the journey ends somewhere in the middle. And again the self, the 'me', the persona in no way find or come upon the fragrance of love. On the contrary it is the ending of 'me' is the most positive to open the doors of heavens. If one travels that far, not verbally or intellectually or as an imaginative illusion --- then one is already connected with the masses, one is the world.

[@peopleideas4436]

It's our responsibility to take him to the mass to stop the consumerist insanity.

[@KINGJUNAID555]

1:00:46 On Fear

[@herewego009]

Pleasure - 39:32

[@dibyanshudhanuka]

Thank you🙂

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i was searching.saved my time. Thank you

[@ohana6145]

One day we will pay for listening

[@rohitsharma1285]

He didn't answer the question posed in the title of video

[@deanchapman2465]

48:58 No fear at all...is the essence of a religious mind.

[@devrastogi2292]

Brother it's not different from what he said, by religious mind I think he meant the mind who is no longer wandering in search of authority (guru) and do not have any conclusions but ready to see the reality

[@krishthakur9573]

43:52

[@maxlee407]

This is lonely journey

[@megh2s]

How is anything that is limited static, and that which is static generative of conflict? I wish there was someone in the audience to have stopped and said, no friend, I'm confused.

[@msidharth]

Things or circumstances that are always keep changing are always in conflict with static preassumptions or thoughts ,that is what he wants to convey.

[@rohitsharma1285]

Ig how I'm in conflict with jk right now because he's limiting my thoughts so I'm running away to the comment section (movement)

[@img008]

From 52:00 to 56:30

[@davidbransky4074]

Applies to today like no other

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Apocalypse now!

[@truthseeker4491]

How is killing another , killing oneself? Sounds romantic. But IS very illogical.

[@akhilvijayakumar5235]

That is in accordance to the quote "you are the world and the world is you "

[@vamshikrishna7647]

Understanding is key to...

[@user-uu5jf3jo3o]

Maybe the killer kills a conflict that he has created and that is incarnated by a person. The killer fails to see that he is the conflict, he us the problem. By killing it and not solving it, he kills himself and an opportunity to understand and set himself free. I guess that at a higher level of awareness, it is obvious.

[@Vivek-3-12]

As long as you are thinking in terms of duality or as long as you can't see that the person you are killing is the same consciousnes that you are; you'll find it illogical and that is what leads to conflicts and further wars.