How does one negate the 'I' without suppression | J. Krishnamurti

[@jsivakumar]

@2:35 JK answered all the questions ever asked to him. "I dont know what negative thinking is, really. Thinking is in itself is negative."

[@rmathai123]

Clarity of Observation is the greatest form of Intelligence -> Very Powerful!!!!

[@marlonsingh4223]

He simplifies it so much. And made us understand what he meant “l don’t demand anything from anyone , I don’t demand anything from this world I don’t care what happens . Krishnamurti made me understand suffering and understanding suffering lights a fire in u and thorough your own inquiry realize u have the key everyone has the key It’s in everyone

[@kristineshahoyan2841]

K is the treasure of my life, changed everything.

[@amazinghumans3039]

Can you share ur email id or facebook, cristina ?? I have tons of questions and doubts on k's teaching

[@reddystyle]

Mine too

[@vikp3411]

This is a frequent question put to Krishnaji throughout his life and afterwards. Its an age old and one might say a backdoor question implying "what am i to do?" Tell me how to 'conquer' the land of the infinite? "Tell me how to be a hero by negating my self!" Sadly most of us are caught up in that mindset and the poor chap spent 90 years pointing it out. Lots of respect to this beautiful expression of infinity.

[@jenniferrooney7469]

Vik P

[@mookiezebra]

Isn´t it OK to be satisfied just as an observer?

[@Zimze08]

Are you not caught in that trap? Why are you pointing out that others are

[@manugullu1517]

Sir do not try to b over smart like you are above rest

[@Sethan777]

👍🕊

[@ampifox]

The Clarity of observation is the greatest form of Intelligence.. 👌 J.k.

[@yeshajariwala]

Observe the world without an observer. An observer is I, Me, Mine, My egoistic approach towards life.Self-centered activities.

[@lockerroomtalkmusic4149]

jagdish jariwala yes. I put it in very simple terms in this way: Imagine a space craft lands on an alien planet. As they leave back for earth, they throw a video camera in the alien forrest. To meditate, be the camera. Observe with no judgment. No pre-conceived ideas. Watch as the video camera in a foreign land.

[@LuisPinto-bt1fu]

Krishnamurti makes you find your inner spirituality and awareness beyond religion

[@pratik6342]

To observe without observer ❤

[@Absolutely-nothing80]

It is the clarity of observation which is the greatest form of intelligence. When there is mere observation without the observer, that observation dispels all that is observed. This is supreme intelligence. Outstanding video.

[@BigAl9653]

I'm gonna be the pedantic annoying guy, but I should say I agree with the sentiment. It's observation without the I/self/ego. The observer (the mind -Buddhist verbiage- The Witness -Vedanta-) does the observating without labels/thought/concepts. So, the observer observes.

[@Anxh007]

@@BigAl9653 its a bit different vedanta says witness is always there

[@drharisht.k.1871]

Thank u krishnamurti official channel....keep posting these type of videos where K discusses about the fact observer is the observed....To understand his whole teachings we must understand the fact or the implications of the sentence(observer is the observed)....I think only in very few videos he does go very deep into this sentence; especially whenever he talks about the trees........... I am glad that there are still few people in the world who have subscribed to this channel and continuously struggling to understand or to experiment themselves what k is talking about ......I am deeply grateful to this channel for continuously posting new K's videos....

[@nadjazajc606]

Agreed.THANK YOU!

[@RAVISHARMA-bc7rz]

Thank God we had so good questioning minds when JK was available & alive, These people who asks questions in every Videos have utilised JK teachings completely or partially.... In this session i would give more credits to questions rather then answer because always, an intelligent answer depends on intelligent question.

[@DihelsonMendonca]

God has nothing to do with that.

[@citizenenak]

@Dònal Brügge you're own self inquiry. Look for yourself.

[@pramodshrestha3123]

Well said

[@hemantkhare5545]

@QuantumBeats So True !

[@kanumurisivasatish9295]

What is intelligent?

[@kathelapointe]

Clarity of observation

[@satyamdubey5012]

There is only observation. Thank You.

[@stillunspoken1343]

This is one which needs revisiting at intervals. Awareness seems to slip away in the face of daily life. Thank you.

[@MyfriendSomu]

Exactly... I think everytime we watch it in intervals... It will mean a different thing until it comes completely in our experience

[@thattaikrishnan5523]

When you actually understand his teachings then you will not comment. Every body whom so ever it may be they are understanding only verbally.

[@3rdclassbrain678]

@@thattaikrishnan5523 some times comments help me understanding presicesley.

[@magi5009]

applying is the trickiest part, i think. i thought i understand, moment of understand i experience clarity. and then, brain goes interact with things as usual and at some point i'm already not applying it. keep doing, is the only way i guess? seems like this process is naturally creating a conflict (with old habits and the truth i'm willing to apply) it's bit weird, that i understand this for sure, felt in deep level that this is essense! and than just slip away from it. what?!

[@Flownow]

@@magi5009 Yop, nicely done by the way. A lot of humans said It is a skill. But you see, It must manifest itself. I believe everyone experiences it the same way. but the reason why It is slipping is I think because of our past really... We have habits, perceptions and believe most of them subconsciously as important. So the mind is actually throwing you this old stuff if front. But I realized that this is just normal. I experience the best way to let it go, play itself, but DONT get caught in it is the key. For me, the most help was realizing the beingness behind the perception and some kind of getting to know it more so you can tell a difference when you get caught again...

[@pratik6342]

Conflict ends when the observer is not and only observation is :)

[@thattaikrishnan5523]

Just negate everything good or bad and be free. Is it possible

[@magi5009]

this is so true i feel in a deep level. and also i feel, it can be sticky as well, like when we are not so used to be this way, when we are trying not be as observer, we could suppress our memory to not interrupt the pure observation, and when this is not easy, and seem as conflict, our mind can turn to 'get rid of memory' and can be sticky.. anyway, this contains truth, it can be antidote for the fears from the past clouding our mind. i'm just sharing my thoughts!

[@rachelwaldman8315]

I needed this in my life. I stumbled across the book Total Freedom at a Thrift store, it looked interesting but I didn't start reading it for about 2 years. Now that I've explored his wisdom, confusion is melting away. It's lovely actually.

[@jilltalks9216]

That means you are believing him.

[@nikhilvr917]

30:56 real stuff starts from here...

[@aristotleinbottle8012]

there is no conflict in the self, or denial of the self or suppression of the self. It is the clarity of observation, which is the greatest form of intelligence.

[@riteshm2249]

“The experiencer is the experience. Therefore the mind is not seeking any experience” Can someone help me with the above statement.

[@NITESHKUMAR-is2gr]

Thoughts create the thinker. Thought that your name is X. Thought that you are wise. Thought that the mountain you visited was beautiful. Thought that he is your enemy. These all thoughts/ memories/ experiences/past/ words have virtually created a fictitious illusory thinker. When there is only watching, as if for the first time~~ It quietens the mind. Then there is no self, no ego, no illusion of separation from rest of universe//

[@jesuisahmedn]

@@NITESHKUMAR-is2gr good question and good answer. Thank you both.

[@AndreasDelleske]

I love the woodpecker. Great timing. Now he’s immortal :)

[@shiningstar4791]

"♥️it is the clarity of observation which is the greatest form of intelligence "JK♥️♥️♥️♥️

[@susicca]

"The symbol has taken the place of reality"

[@Jesterj13]

Prince was ahead of his time then😜

[@emilobe]

How can one "negate" a Fata Morgana, which is the 'I'. By realizing, that it is not more or less than a FATA MORGANA! The Phenomenon will not disappear, but you realize what it is. 😳

[@rlgraves]

This viewer found this to be a very clear, deep exploration of pure observation. Very helpful.

[@SevasGuitar]

Absolute clear mind, no seeking experiences, no waste of energy that state brings all energy into the being. 부처님의 12연기중 행을 소멸함으로 모든것이 소멸한다.

[@commentbymohammedjobayer6826]

*in Physical body Behaviour* Activity is the Trigger "I" is the Action .

[@clydemcintee1056]

Excellent! Thoroughly enjoying these insights. Thank you for making them available. Have a great day.

[@Andrei-ti1ij]

20:22 is there a difference between the observer and the observed? If there is an observer then yes there is! Only when there isn't any observer, the difference is not! Only when the observer has no memory and has no opinion about what is seen, only when there is impersonal observation, there is no observer!!! A digital camera is an observer? no it is not, the observer is the one that makes the photos, the one that looks at the photos!! A digital camera has no opinion about the the photos that you are taking... well that's how we have to be!! Impartial like a digital camera!!! To look at everything without the word, or the knowledge as he says, it is of a tremendous importance! Because when you are the knowledge that looks, then you react, but when you look without knowledge how can you react? You react to what if you know nothing?? When you know nothing, not even that you exist, and tat you are, then there is impartial observation! But don't forget that knowledge is very important, so we can't just forget everything and live like cows!!! knowledge is needed... but we look at knowledge with knowledge (of the knowledge) also!!! So the question is can there be impartial observation of knowledge also?? YES is the answer! There can be observation of knowledge without translating it! In the same way in which there can be observation of a tree without translating it!!! From this view point trees, and knowledge have something in common!! Both can be observed impartially! Our reactions are knowledge!!! Our reactions come from the past!! So what if we could observe all of our reactions in the exact moment in which these reactions are happening? To observe them without the past, which means without reacting to them! If we observe reactions without reacting to them, then there is observation without knowledge, then there is impartial observation of your knowledge at work! Who is observing? NO ONE!!! Because something that has no reactions does not exist! Something that has no reaction has no past, has no opinion yet, has no experience yet, has no preferences yet! To observe all our reactions without recognising them, without translating them, is the key! And this is possible only NOW while these reactions are actually happening, not after they are happened.

[@GR0907]

Great 👍

[@poncholarpez6233]

You do not HAVE to do, or HAVE to be anything. Clear observation is simply a state that is reached when you realise you are creating your entire experience. Because, the self realizes it is the whole. When this happens, the mind becomes silent, because, theres simply no point.

[@aravindj6550]

Beautiful ❤️

[@svallam]

"If we observe reactions without reacting to them". If you are reacting to the reactions, then it is the knowledge that is reacting. How do we know at what point we have to become just the observer, not a reactor?

[@devivelu4667]

Oh man he is genius. Such a wonderful explanation. Thanks for uploading this video

[@muktajain62]

Clarity of observation without bringing who is observed in between is absolute intelligence.

[@alenaraffayova5926]

Ďakujem za všetko, čo som sa naučila, za zmenu, ktorou som prešla. 🙏 Nádherné ❤️ Veľmi by som si priala, keby boli preložené všetky videá do Slovenského jazyka.🦋

[@danielpixa2305]

Úžasný člověk

[@rusher9864]

the more ur brain is fragmented the more there is conflicts which makes a I the more oneness u have in your brain which brings order in that order I doesn't operate

[@pratik6342]

Thinker is the thought. Observer is the observed. Experiencer is the Experienced..🤔🤔

[@spcsh1936]

he is like one in a billion on this planet...what a lonely life must he lived

[@moorbilt]

This guy lived an exciting life. In being alone, the guy certainly wasn’t lonely. The guy had a great vast community of people, friends and family. Misery attracts misery, honesty attracts honesty.

[@PhillyTaiChi]

The word Alone stems from two words - All One ..... Let that marinate for a hot minute 🔥

[@mboeng]

"The observer is the observed" is this true? Or we just agree to this? Or we just agree to this because being told about this? Or we just say (write) this because wanna be like this? Or this what we be?

[@273213260]

make peace with your past. live in the moment totally

[@clodhopper-dodo]

If the 'me' tries to make peace with the past, the 'me' is already the bundle of the past memories which mechanically makes peace with its own projection calling it the 'past'. You are already caught up. Do nothing other than the mere observation. If I decide to live in the moment completely, the present moment has become now a concept, an idea. Again the idea adds up to the baggage of the 'me' and you are caught up. Do nothing other than the mere observation.

[@antontomov8532]

It doesn't matter if you will observe with or without labeling the world around you because there still will be an 'I' that decides what to choose of both. Indeed it is an amazing feeling to experience life with a clear mind, but the 'I' (or whatever you wanna call it) will always be there even in the absence of words. You're simply a living organism that is aware of its existence and that shouldn't be a problem. I mean, yes, we encounter pain, tragedies and etc throughout our lives, but in my opinion if there is a "fix" (the universe didn't promise us nothing) to this it is that we be honest and accept this part of existence just as we accept the other (happiness, joy and etc). There isn't much that we can do.

[@0TricksterLove0]

If you understand this teaching to the very core of your Being, you realize that there is no division or conflict, the words categorise and divide because people believe that it is ultimate truth and reality, that we and things are separate and different. People don't like difference. Prejudices and hate all occur because of this, it is this separation and division that causes it. Labels and categories are useful, however, when you believe them to be ultimate truth and reality, and that you are separate from another, that is where the problem arises. We separate and divide because of our "I".

[@jonathandavilaaravena8671]

It matters because the ego is a construction and not "what it is" as Krishnamurti says, if you observe through a conditioning you will not really "see"

[@05-vivekkumar83]

Thank uuu chhanal for presenting modern day Buddha...

[@junaid12345678901234]

Thinking in itself is negative, has he ever expounded on that statement in any video or book?

[@aemechatronics1806]

Wow! Someone never Articulated like this ever before to me! Which consiously obliterates whom I am! This might bring in an end to life of Word! Sum up! Truth in 38min and 50sec True wisdom!

[@mehmetiksel3081]

Doesn't this connect directly with Heidegger's "Dasein"? I believe it does.

[@widipermono854]

🙏🙏🙏

[@lifechoices6643]

I become aware of the 'I' during meditation but then I return to the normal world.

[@clodhopper-dodo]

When you become aware of the I, does it not dissolve instantly? And you remain nobody. That is the beginning of meditation.

[@rupertpitt4]

How interesting this is, but to negate the “I” or the “Me” is hard. It lurks deep within us, hidden deeply. 😢

[@Mehrdad12]

So we invented words and symbols to escape observing unlimited.

[@Artofoptionlearning12]

30:00

[@bobsarfatty4673]

"Awareness is the path to immortality "

[@markbrad123]

Think the pure Buddhist answer would be mindfulness of mindfulness on to pure observation..

[@JonMcDough]

One of the best K dialogues I've seen.

[@magi5009]

he is a very lovely person! make me laugh few times.. make me peaceful. beautiful, wise being

[@gregnicholls8347]

I, the subjective sensation as the viewer/thinker, is an effect of incomplete brain activity. This subjectiveness is essential to safeguard the physical organism in the physical environment but, because of the evolution of language, brain is trapped into safeguarding the sensations of that which has happened or might happen to the physical organism in psychological space-time in the activity called thinking.

[@leewawson344]

Astounding Awareness 🔆#Namaste Even more assureing, 2nd. time !!! 👀 #CLARITY 💫 🐬 💫

[@reyemoon]

This gets really confusing?? 😕

[@rebelguy9947]

21:01 when he said " oh u are repeating the same old thing ,, that is a movement of thought tho,,

[@viveviveka2651]

'I will save me from myself' thinking

[@nusrattufail4574]

"Clarity of observation is the highest form of intelligence" JK I assume the real juice and the rejuvenation of life lives in the plain of pure observation.I want to be there.

[@clodhopper-dodo]

If you want to be there, you are seeking something. Seeking something strengthens the 'me' movement and there is modified continuity of the past. Nothing changes.

[@TheodorOnarheim]

Once something, a state for example, "feels like something", you are back in thought. It is a form of liking, disliking or indifference - all ways of reification. What you thought you were looking for, is the simple, "dull", subtle, everyday, inconclusive state of just the lights being on, nothing more It deepens in various ways if you trust it

[@yeshajariwala]

Clarity in observation is the greatest form of intelligence.When the heart is pure and mind is clear then TRUTH is near. We ego is zero one becomes a real hero.

[@dmcshk4166]

if one ego is end the does one care if the people still have ego look at the non-ego one as a hero ??

[@pretheeshgpresannan4172]

What the hell is positive thinking. "Thinking by itself is negative" -- JK 🙂

[@iElliottician]

hahaha

[@user-we6wi3rn1l]

Positive thinking can only come from negative thinking and vice versa. It's all just thinking. Like "on" can only come from "off" and vice versa. One cannot exist independently from the other. JK and most other teachers worth their salt say that division (duality of any kind) only creates conflict and suffering.

[@DihelsonMendonca]

He attributes all conflict to the ego, but he doesn´t admit that on human structure there is something which is the "essence" which observes everything without judge, and this essence survives after death. For him, nothing survives after death. He doens´t admit we are individuals.

[@pratik6342]

How do you know that "essence which observes everything" is "Individual " ?

[@rajmadhya1989]

What is Atma or Atman? What is self? What is negation? Content of consciousness and Universal one consciousness? Not talk about ... but find yourself ?

[@thattaikrishnan5523]

Just look at the thought . The moment you look there is no thought. Ie the essence of k's teachings

[@thattaikrishnan5523]

Understanding observer and and the thing observed being one and the same. This is spiritual mind. Is it possible to be there in that is the question. Even if it is possible another question arises. ie how long. To be in that state is very difficult because we are always dominated by thought and feelings.

[@shivdevuppal.5713]

Sir, who will realize that there's no thought ? If oneself is having this feeling that mean, oneself is deceiving oneself !

[@thattaikrishnan5523]

@@shivdevuppal.5713 is there continuity of watching. Or watching itself is our being.

[@thattaikrishnan5523]

This is neverending process.

[@jnananinja7436]

Beautiful. Thank you.

[@pilarzamora5705]

Espectacular explicación del Maestro Krisnhamurti. Gracias Maestro en el Silencio.

[@cheri238]

The accumulation of knowledge is book knowledge, which is based in time, the past, and all its conditioning of its fears of yesterday or the future . One acts now in the present moment, of the truth or the question of the proposition of what is being questioned with clarity, then one understands freedom to love with compassion. 🙏❤️🌍🌿🕊🎵🎶🎵

[@michaelmelhorn]

K was not any more of a god than any of us

[@honeythakur509]

But observer is there all the time! Is it even possible to get rid of it without erasing memories??

[@Bonpu]

The egoic observer needs to be made up moment by moment (which is why it keeps us in repetitive thinking). Notice how the idea to „get rid of it“ creates it. Just forget everything you know (including time) and watch.

[@yacovmitchenko1490]

Unfortunately, truly listening and inquiring into the matter of the "I", valuable as it is, is still not enough to contend with all kinds of fierce unconscious forces (which may be considered irrational or pre-rational). The rational approach of inquiry (even though it's not intellectual, as Krishnamurti would have it), is simply not powerful enough to dissolve what we're not even aware of. We're not primarily rational. We often use arguments, spin theories, which just justify (or rationalize) those unconscious tendencies. So to use a rational approach to attempt to dissolve what is fiercely irrational is frankly silly - because rationality remains only a surface feature of consciousness. Or a useful analogy: It's like a puppet that thinks he can put an end to the puppeteer! There's nothing in Krishnamurti's talks to suggest that those unconscious forces have been confronted.

[@clodhopper-dodo]

Pure observation burns all your mind divisions like rational, irrational, hidden forces etc. Don't break your head.

[@clodhopper-dodo]

Krishnamurti always said, 'analysis is paralysis'. You seem to be organising these unconscious forces into categories and trying to confront each category bit by bit. The whole idea of this process is the greatest blind spot, as K pointed out to psychologists and the scientists.

[@clodhopper-dodo]

You should not call anything unconscious as the conscious never knows what is unconscious. Never try to theorize and plan to conquer the unconscious as now it becomes an idea and there is immediate conflict. When the mind knows the idea is erupting what seems reality, is the ONLY step to end conflict and the end of the 'me'

[@Binary-Nature]

A real human being without any conditioning

[@mikeydeshore3971]

he said i dont quote , that uncovering the real nature true self has not worked. But he keeps pointing to it? i don't think he actually answered the initial question fully. perhaps the video was cut before the end of his talk?

[@poncholarpez6233]

Hes not answering any questions. Only you can answer the questions

[@arunwaghmare2215]

Wonderful

[@mikeydeshore3971]

he doesnt really answer the question does he?

[@billclark3404]

I always find....I. Always, words, meaning in whatever form, hang from notions of understanding... It's all so much imagery, movement and...me. Frustrating. I can't let go. Intellectualy I 'get' it would be me letting go, and that any process involving me just preserves me. And so, I 'should' let that process go. Still me though, isn't it? And so the merry-go-round spins. So silly🙃

[@ThePhoenixTube007]

He said thinking itself is negative . But I don’t feel that way . I think be unconscious about your thinking is negative . Unless you are aware of your thinking is not bad . We can’t denied or reject it , I but observe it

[@feedyourfaith7392]

Can someone use Negate in a sentence? I think I used it wrong this morning. I said just because someone else was cleaning doesn’t negate us from cleaning. 😞

[@xsuploader]

The kings request for gold did not negate his request for silver. Negate isnt commonly used in english.

[@zak-a-roo264]

My sitting about and not cleaning, does not negate anothers effort to clean.

[@julianthomas9817]

Isness in the flesh. What a special being. Wish he’d still be here. I wish I could see life through his eyes. But he’d probably say something that’d make me feel like I don’t get it.

[@pranavbhutan]

Either I fail to understand or the speaker is not very direct in answering. The observed and the observer is not different. So there is no observer. As far as I can understand this is the negation of observer. And when negation exists, the question comes back.

[@magi5009]

can you determine, what is pure observation without interrupted by memories, and what is not? when it's get subtler, how to fully aware every time.. that i'm not playing with past data i've been accumulate? like he said, apply to daily life is important, and it's the hardest part.

[@pandeydhananjaykumar]

34:54

[@willnguyen3233]

Thank you very much

[@amitkalra9254]

Can you add English subtitles

[@xnxbxs_zx]

Thank you

[@phillvandersky6254]

Thought carrying knowledge of the source of emotion holds back its energy and outburst. This creates emotional blockages and deposits, which are the source of all conflict. There is no observation without an observer. What annihilates the observer is pure experience

[@liontigercatviji]

When you look at ur husband drinking alcohol then what is the observation there ?so the husband is not according to my preset image . So I get angry. How to observe that

[@bulanlumbangaol]

Thank you very much.

[@kaykaur8318]

Does this mean we should be like Adam & Eve before they discovered the knowledge tree?

[@SarsarMohit]

I got to know he had throat cancer and the way he delivered those lectures it gives me goosebumps whenever i see Jiddu ji speaking with so much energy and strength it used to hurt him a lot when he used to speak still this man spoke till his last breath ❤

[@bhoomasoundar2209]

Rapt attention is required to grasp. Fantastic sir

[@AnthonyHoward-ru8su]

It seems the responsibility of love is the highest motive to have in seeking to transcend the ego because of how it doesn't concern itself with selfish reason

[@luisalbelda67]

Thank you!

[@xnihiloy]

Who is the one who is recording the experience?

[@ladykatnip7698]

I have found Krishnamurti's talks help affirm to my thoughts. Which is I guess one of the points made lol. Wish I had found these sooner.

[@Zara-um1nx]

Thank you so much. ❤❤🙏👍

[@healthpediashop8536]

29:00 arahan

[@healthpediashop8536]

33:00 contoh pengamat adalah yg diamati

[@healthpediashop8536]

bebas dari yg dikenal

[@healthpediashop8536]

35:50 pengalaman dari projeksi masa lalu.....pengalaman apa yg dibayangkan dimasa lalu dari hasil keterkondisian

[@healthpediashop8536]

jadi aku ingin mengalami pengalaman yg dibayangkan sblmnya? yg sudah dikenal? sensasi2nya yg sudah dikenal

[@janklaas6885]

🇺🇳27:12

[@thattaikrishnan5523]

We can understand total awareness but to be in that is difficult because thought is tricky and it dominates awareness and we are lost in it. Again thinking process starts then what will you do.

[@thattaikrishnan5523]

We understand everything of what k has said only verbally. But when u understand actually then what takes place.

[@petertran5797]

An experience of a life time. 😊

[@TheSunnickey]

Thank you

[@amitrane3719]

Simple to listen.