How does one find peace in the world, and in oneself? | J. Krishnamurti

[@sleek24]

The understanding of relationships is the key to finding ourselves. People are like mirrors in which we see who we truly are.

[@anangelskissinspring330]

hector hernandez True!

[@simoneric8183]

- On many occasions I witnessed (felt) that the "negative" expressions on other people's faces were no more than the reflection of what was on my own face when I'm sad, or stressed...

[@markbrad123]

Watch people ahead of when you see them up close. You'll see its not your reflection then. There is an impact yes how you mingle up close but don't get carried away with a judgmental sense of approval, its not all about you. Better to be detached from the fickle notions of society then.

[@mmamassmemoryart2346]

He is the one great teacher and God who make me understandable and fearless. Before him I was bag of will.

[@Luka1180]

He is not a god.

[@himanshuj.]

Finding constant peace is quite a difficult peace, regardless of any external factors. I guess it's our mental / inner makeup that makes it so hard to achieve.

[@himanshuj.]

I like the pristine and peaceful quality of this video though. Thank you.

[@tapasroychoudhury3672]

One of the greatest sages of the modern century utterly ignored and neglected! !

[@solomit1]

so true media would never give JK any air time

[@aniketbaraskar1]

Even in india , people dont know him.

[@nevencuca1680]

U mean censorship

[@udaybhaskar448]

on the other hand, this sage lighted the millions of lives which could be light on to themselves, and is still happening all over the world.....which is undeniable....peace...

[@pallabidutta968]

@@solomit1 The media that is so "monstrously destructive and divisive" would not even consider Krishnamurti giving a lecture on World Peace.

[@EmakhosiniSiyakhuleka]

DOPE 🔥

[@maracummings9767]

🔥🔥🔥

[@ravindrannair3246]

compassion hidden in every human being

[@preethikrao]

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@leilamobasserii]

❤

[@nageshjha452]

Thanks.

[@dipitum]

Thank you.

[@patcomerford5596]

I find it shocking that this great teacher was subjected to such terribly noisy conditions to deliver his talk!

[@amitkalra9254]

Can you add English subtitles

[@KFoundation]

The full-length video has subtitles: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3baonaLfZl5rM0

[@Shunya_Advait]

🙏

[@kishanubuntu3005]

Love you k

[@johnnoughty7944]

Is there a part 2 to this?.That was like a hour spanking..

[@sachinranaa8795]

Can any one provide link continue video??

[@KFoundation]

For this and any other extracts, you can look it up yourself by searching for the full talk using the information in the video description. In this case, simply search for 'Brockwood Park 1984 Q&A 2' either directly on KZbin or Google. If you learn this method you won't need to ask for the link again. Hope this helps.

[@JohnCollettVox]

Not enough views. People want to see other people eating food or buying a new car or telling jokes or other forms of amusement on here. Not use this tool for footage like this. The life we are collectively involved in and how destructive it is should be OUR FIRST PRIORITY. Not amusement. When we fix ourselves and subsequently our society. Lets play as much as possible. For now. WE HAVE WORK TO DO.

[@lindas5964]

The irony of giving a message on peace while helicopters circle overhead.

[@TR3NCII]

One can certainly find peace, but the journey requires conflict or you will be trampled upon. If one is weak one can easily be enslaved by others and even your own mind can enslave ypu.

[@neusamedeiros3612]

Tradução horrivel! Para um conteúdo tão importante! Sejam fiel na tradução.

[@SydneyCarton2085]

I don't agree with him on some things but still a good talk. Thank you for posting.

[@ayisha782]

like what?

[@corkyst.claire565]

Are the "Saturday" and "Sunday" talks available? Krishnamurti ends this talk by noting that he has talked for half an hour and has not answered the questions -- based on the idea (if that is the right word to use) that finding peace, or living peacefully, is related to desire, will, and love, as well as intelligence, along with pain and sorrow, and death and meditation and all that.

[@KFoundation]

You can watch the whole series here: kzbin.info/aero/PL1n30s-LKus6JDQdVR9lzmmGJpPT8VyF5 - the Saturday and Sunday talks are respectively Public Meetings #3 and #4 in the playlist

[@AshishKaloliya]

@@KFoundation Thank you for creating and managing the channel.

[@everytopicoftopicandthings2860]

Jesus, Buddha, Krishnamurti, Alan Watts, and dozens apun dozens of others have said. "I am no God. I am not a being to be worshiped, I am no better there anyone. No one is better than I. " So why do people worship and look at these people like gods when a wish after death they wanted to be kept was for the opposite to have of happened. Ridiculous...

[@pallabidutta968]

That is probably because to deify a great personality is another way to form some kind of religious organisation...a trait the human race lives on!

[@AjayKumar-dv4pq]

30 minutes, worth more than a thousand bibles, upanishads and korans.

[@TheMindsFlow]

Truth is priceless

[@kennychetty6623]

A pure soul not contaminated by religion,politics etc,who has the freedom of thought without boundaries,a discussion so relevant in 2021(Prophetic)

[@everytopicoftopicandthings2860]

He who says he is true, and he who has defended himself from an opposite entity is not true. Though he who sits in silence may choose wherever he wants to be, and go.

[@yacovmitchenko1490]

Don't get me wrong: Krishnamurti is brilliant. He has been a source of inspiration for me for many years. But I think he begins to falter when it comes to monasteries: it's not fair to say that monks and nuns simply isolate themselves from the world, and abdicate their responsibility. For one thing (at least from my observations) there are many monks and nuns who advise and keep in touch with laypeople. They can deliver discourses (as KZbin makes abundantly clear). Krishnamurti suggests that they're following a system, that their ways are still mechanical (because they're still conditioned). I disagree with Krishnamurti insofar as I believe that some forms of conditioning are beneficial, at least for a while or to some extent. They may need to be dropped at some point; in fact, deep meditation (which is the central practice of Buddhists, among others) is such that the meditators forget themselves completely and the idea that they're Buddhists. This happens if the meditation is sufficiently profound, and that's one central goal: to forget what the people think they are, their habitual sense of self, to realize that which has nothing to do with the Buddhist system, that which is beyond all systems. Yet the system serves a useful purpose; it helps one to proceed along the path in a disciplined and organized manner - which, psychologically, people need. At least in the beginning, as children need systems to rein in all their impulses. A system, in and of itself, need not numb or tyrannize the mind; it depends on what you do with the system, how it's employed. One drawback of Krishnamurti's approach, I feel, is that he is speaking from the peak, as it were. Now someone at the peak of a mountain needn't bother about the steps needed to reach the peak; he's already there, and there's no "how" on the peak. The "how" is irrelevant to that person, for he's simply there, one with all. There's simply peace and no one who's peaceful - so the "how" doesn't enter into the equation. But Krishnamurti's mistake is that he takes the situation of the person on the peak to be the same situation as the person who's still in the valley, or the one who's still in a swamp somewhere in the valley. I mean this figuratively, of course. There may be no difference between what these people actually are, but they're in completely different psychological spheres. It would do no good to state something like the following: "Well, your swamp is just a concept, is just your conditioning. There are no methods here, no system; simply see for yourself that all your attachments, that all your ideas about what you think you are, ARE THE SWAMP ." That's not an effective teaching; it's utterly useless - because it becomes just another idea; it's still only intellectual, which is to say, not transformative. Krishnamurti, I know, often point this out, and he asks his listeners to watch how the mind does what I just described. But Krishnamurti's request - the request itself - has not transcended intellectualism. He often states that merely accepting what he's saying intellectually is inadequate, yet he himself does nothing to help a person get beyond mere intellectualism. He has no way, no method for this - which is why his listeners usually remain mired in their habitual ways. That's exactly why I said earlier that a way, a method can be valuable. Zen masters, or so it has been reported, have been known to hit their students (physically, I mean) if they perceived that their students were blocked in some way - if their concepts hindered them psychologically. In other words, Zen masters were notorious - and helpful - in not confining themselves to merely verbal teachings. In some cases, they wouldn't speak at all, and that silence was most eloquent. One could argue that they themselves followed no method, but they at least had some effective way of teaching that went beyond the verbal, the intellectual. Krishnamurti has no way, no "how" at all. He asks people to do so-and-so, to follow him in the inquiry, but that itself does not constitute an effective teaching. It lacks transformative power. The "truth-has-no-path"-approach, whatever may have been Krishnamurti's intentions, remains an arid desert. In some cases, actually, it may even strengthen the prevailing intellectualism, insofar as it becomes just another entrenched idea. So contrary to Krishnamurti's view, his lack of a method, or way beyond the verbal, is actually a defect. It may explain, partly, why he died a dissatisfied man as well. As I recall, he bemoaned what he believed to be a wasted life, because he felt that his work was just a form of refined entertainment. I think he was too harsh on himself; he was beautiful, one of the most beautiful souls who ever lived. Yet that drawback which he was referring to was clearly one of his own making. I'd like to note, in passing, that he inspired parts of my book "I Have Been Moved".

[@AjayKumar-dv4pq]

Man, you seem to have read a LOT! (aka, full of other people's ideas). I'll take one example (your second para). You say K is sitting at a peak, while we are down below, and he refuses to tell us plainly how to reach the peak. By 'peak' you really mean 'understanding'. K has an understanding, an insight, into the world of psychology that we normal people don't. Your usage of the word 'peak' is immediately reflective of your enormous reading and an intellect filled with images of fantasy created by other people. Now, can you gift 'understanding' to another? No, right. You can only talk to them rationally and hope the bulb turns on someday, right? So, what the heck do you think this poor man had been doing for 60 years???

[@joydevghosh8017]

I liked your long comment. I think our civilisation has taken a wrong turn and now we are in a hopeless state of existence. Even a Christ or a Buddha would have failed under the prevailing circumstances to bring about any desirable transformation .I think Krishnamurti was well aware of it but he did not want to give up. .

[@IndulgentSamurai]

It's obvious that hiding out in a monastery makes it easier to let go of the world. But when you leave the monastery, the world will be waiting for you and steel you away... In his talks, JK points quite eloquently, about being both IN the world but not OF the world...therefore there is no need to retreat from the world at all...

[@SydneyCarton2085]

@@IndulgentSamurai so don't leave the monastery lol. Mob mentality is too overwhelming. People wanting you to belong to their group or you are Hitler if you do not listen to their shit music or adopt their culture. No, monasteries still commit good will and are active members of the community without exposing themselves to the garbage culture that pervades modern society. Krishnamurti takes a stance of pride in that he is spiritually skilled enough to ignore the bs. It really depends on the individual and their personal growth. I don't agree with his stance on monsasteries.

[@ayisha782]

@@SydneyCarton2085 if everybody who wants to progress spiritually just retreats into monasteries, what about the rest of the human race? That’s a very self indulgent way of trying to reach god, because you’ve just cancelled everybody out of the equation. Don’t you think it’s every one of our duties to heal each other by healing what’s wounded inside of us? And to be willing to give your life so that others can benefit? you can’t do that if you choose to escape the world and leave everybody else stranded. Self realization is not for yourself, ultimately. However, I don’t think monasteries are wrong in and of itself, JK is just pointing out how a lot of people do this so they can find security within a system, and with a goal in mind.