‘We’re really struggling’: Eastern Oregon rancher’s dog killed by state-protected wolves

[@mwhitelaw8569]

Colman seems like a sharp fella I hope he has a good year, without much loss. Sorry about the dog my friend

[@Supernova778]

wolves were once common across mostly all of Oregon, I think next step should be re introducing them to places like Forest Park in Portland that was once their habitat and we need to restore that habitat to its natural state.

[@Clark42EoC]

Can we release them in Salem too?

[@Supernova778]

@@Clark42EoC sure! why not?

[@Clark42EoC]

@@Supernova778 Ahooooo Werewolves of Salem! Plus side...might cut down on crime...

[@thelonemaiden]

@@Clark42EoC laughed out loud :-)

[@AlexandarHullRichter]

You almost had a good idea before resorting to extremism. There are plenty of sparsely populated areas in western Oregon that wolves can probably be moved to.

[@Dzhelkin_Elk]

I think Portland parks could use more bears.

[@steveanimatrix3887]

Eventually they'll be dealing with these wolves in their backyards. We'll hear stories of smart compassionate people trying to pet them because they think they're just dogs.

[@LeifWarner]

This guy's great great great grandpa knew there were wolves in the wild when he moved out there...

[@FreeAmerican-mm2my]

@@LeifWarner And he killed them. You need to adopt some wolves.

[@ICUP920]

Specifically, cocaine bears and lots of them.

[@americanmilitiaman88]

And mountain lions

[@XP-nt9iy]

I'm pretty torn on this. I love conserving wild animal species, and hate how many species have gone extinct due to humans, but its obviously a problem having wolves so close to the ever expanding human population.

[@osamanazzal4302]

The problem is not the wolves, but the ever expanding human population. Humans breed even more than rabbits do.

[@gjesson4813]

I can’t imagine what this guy is worried about, food comes from grocery stores right Portland?

[@rockstarofredondo]

Yes, the grocery stores that can’t flee from Poopland fast enough.

[@Spyrit2011]

Just like cattle ranchers believe all the females have pups and not just the alpha female.

[@bonzocleach2496]

He is correct to be worried. Wolves are dangerous. He can be reimbursed financially for the damage caused by wolves. That money comes from the tax payers. The VAST MAJORITY of taxes and revenue generated in Oregon comes from Portland and the rest of Eastern Oregon. Nobody says he has to sell his beef to Portland. He could just sell to his neighbors. See how quickly he goes broke. Isn't that right genius???

[@gene2119]

According to the rancher food comes from 'momma cows'. And he should know, he has two college degrees.

[@vdog4799]

@@rockstarofredondo that's truth. Portland folks don't even want to pay for food. They just can't understand why businesses are leaving. It's going to end up like south central LA with the same result. Help us we have been wronged by the world and those horrible police are picking on us! Racism,Racism, it's because we are black and LGBTQI 123 ABC BLAH BLAH BLAH.

[@doug8525]

He needs to get two or three donkeys. I’ve seen other sites where farmers have gotten them and it has worked well. Donkeys can be mean and they’ll give those wolves a thrashing.

[@sedg03]

The wolf packs would kill donkeys same as they take down wolves.

[@danielboone6631]

I've heard some say that when wolves cause you problems, use the three "S's." Shoot, shovel, and shut up.

[@gkling33]

Exactly. Instead of crying about it on Facebook

[@ronnie32567]

@@gkling33 oh I’m sure he’s used the three sss solution.

[@Box545x39]

Until one was chipped and they track it to your location.

[@ronnie32567]

@@Box545x39 that’s why Arizonans don’t use that method, they pow them in the gut with a 22 so they can run off and expire elsewhere, hence no hands on work

[@grenachegirl]

That's cuz they're ignorant right-wingers they don't care about nature, but ironically raise animals I don't understand it myself these people are insane

[@Geoduck.]

I've lived in a small town outside Seattle for 68 years now. The changes that have taken place over the past years are shocking. We typically have a shooting death on Pacific Hwy once a week. Next fall we will be selling our home and moving to Eastern Washington. My wife and I don't care to live in a cess pool any more.

[@Griffin-58]

Hey man I’m a real estate investor, I’d do open to buying that place when you’re ready to sell it. Do you want my info?

[@bonzocleach2496]

What's the town?

[@save2a4all]

Have noticed drastic changes in just the last 5 years living in Seattle! Visited in 2008 and so much has changed, sadly much for the worse when it comes to politics, rights and conservative to classical liberal values.

[@bonzocleach2496]

@@save2a4all It's too easy to just blame politics. The Democrats certainly aren't fixing anything. One would think it would be easy for a Republican to take over. The reality is Republicans don't want anything to do with trying to fix cities. There may be individual Republicans who want to try; but they won't get any support or money from the Republican party.

[@rickbeal1544]

Just don't vote for what you are running from

[@TheDude1776]

Portland has enough 2 legged predators. They need more 4 legged ones.

[@Sarge5]

That have a healthy appetite for the 2 legged ones..

[@KayFabe87]

Release the 4-legged predators in Portland, Salem & Eugene so the woke idiots in those places can get a taste of all the "biological diversity" they are preaching. Watch how quickly their tune changes when their Yorkies, poodles, and other pets start becoming appetizers.

[@richwc1]

It’s not just about the wolves. That’s just one issue. It’s about the differences between the Portland metro area and the rest of the state. Our elected officials may make great Portland mayors but they are not recognizing the issue that are important to all of Oregon. As for the wolves I’m an avid outdoorsman and native Eastern Oregonian I’m not sure how I feel about the wolves. I was seen them, more then once and it’s awesome hearing them while camping out in the wilderness. However they do need managed and management decisions should not be made by folk that will never have any knowledge or interaction with them.

[@davidmassey9243]

You can always just go back to Europe where you belong 🤙

[@godswittness69]

There are other options than separating Oregon. Give the entire state proper representation. Do not allow western oregon to decide for eastern Oregon. This is a question of representative democracy & an illustration of what starts to go wrong when the people are not being served by those who would call themselves public servants 😔

[@jedclampett6466]

Canadian wolves have no place in the Pacific Northwest.... Period!.... treat em' just like a coyote. Shoot em' when you see em'....

[@garycage7900]

The wolf has a right to live: The Federal Endangered Species Act.

[@notreally2406]

*than

[@Raised-Right]

Sounds like us here in Illinois, Chicago makes all the rules for us who live 6 hours away.

[@nobodyspecial4702]

Same in NY. Upstate is politically irrelevant since the only votes on state laws are dictated by the 5 burroughs of NYC. They outnumber the entire rest of the state so politicians don't even pretend like they care about us.

[@bonzocleach2496]

You're another dummy. You should thank Chicago and the Suburbs for carrying you. Don't you think Chicago area residents would like to keep the revenue generated by the giant economy that exists there? They pay a lot higher taxes than you do. They deal with the crime. They deal with the traffic. They deal with it because the jobs are there. Southern Illinois is losing population even faster than the rest of Illinois. It would be better for everyone if that wasn't true; but it's a reality.

[@sherburck]

I have noticed that Chicago is sending out people to run in small towns in every state…anyone else notice these random candidates from Chicago?

[@Huntfish247]

Just like a lot of states. Country folks with common sense are the minority for years now.

[@sedg03]

@@sherburck mormons? Chicago did get walmarts closed on em... Same as Portland n Bend.

[@stevennelson9504]

I live in Northern Minnesota and we have always had wolves around. I'm calling BS to this fear filled story on wolves. In my experience you see signs of wolves (scat, deer kill, etc.), but rarely ever have an encounter with one. They avoid contact with people and places frequented by people.

[@michaelhennegan9637]

I’m calling BS on you. You don’t have ranches in MN. Like we do here in the sweat. All you have strep trees, lakes, and swamps.

[@HubertofLiege]

Unless there is too many

[@stevennelson9504]

@@michaelhennegan9637 We have a lot of livestock in Minnesota.

[@twostop6895]

@@michaelhennegan9637 you clearly have never been to Minnessota, there is very much livestock in Minnessota, most the welfare ranchers living west of the Mississippi are living on stolen homesteaded land that they never paid for

[@TheREALLibertyOrDeath]

They’ve almost wiped out the elk herds in a few states. Know nothing know it all’s

[@standardannonymousguy]

Nice work on your story. You have an excellent platform to make for good change and good reform. Thank you for for your reporting.

[@Lee-xn8by]

Hunting near Ashland Oregon a few years back, nine people sitting around a campfire caught a wolf trying to sneak up on my three year old niece who was walking around. When we shined the light on it, the wolf was only ten feet away.

[@goddessofthewilderness]

Why would you be letting a 3 year old be walking around in the dark in the woods by herself were predators live?

[@bennyflournoy4575]

Doesn't sound smart!

[@Lee-xn8by]

@@goddessofthewilderness Lol, you missed the point. She was three feet away from a large fire with six adults and the wolf still tried to put a stock on her. They are too bold knowing they can't be killed.

[@Lee-xn8by]

@@bennyflournoy4575 She was three feet from her mother and six adults, one adult armed with a handgun, another with an AR 15 next to him. Point is the wolves are too bold.

[@antcap1519]

nice story, was there a UFO dropping off bigfoot near by as well? lol

[@ronwade2206]

These are Canadian Wolves introduced into Idaho when I lived there 2002-2010. Problem was the native Lobo Wolf was far from extinct or endangered. These Canadian Wolves don't belong here at all!

[@the.original.throwback]

I live in Washington state and for years opposed releasing grizzly bears in the state. It is a long standing conflict between urban dwellers who support grizzly bear release and Eastern Washington residents who live where the grizzly bears would be active. Then I completely reversed my opinion. I am now totally in favor of grizzly bear releases with one caveat; each community, statewide, votes for or against grizzly bear release with the understanding that the bears will be released in the communities that voted for them. Obviously, the idea is impractical and won't happen but it does point to the crux of the problem. Why should someone living in Seattle get to tell someone living and ranching in Tonasket that they have to put up with grizzly bear predations and, even worse, the potential threats to their family's safety? For the urbanite in their nice safe SUV on a road trip through Eastern Washington, it is a big thrill to see a grizzly bear meandering toward the cattle that represents the livelihood of those who live there. We have to either get better at fair governance in America or face the consequences of the slow burn continuing to develop between city and rural citizens.

[@bonzocleach2496]

You're another rural idiot who just wants to bitch about urban and suburban areas. Your dumb "caveat" is stupid because there hasn't been a "vote" in any community on grizzly bear release. You're another rural idiot who just wants to bitch about urban and suburban areas. Meanwhile your candy ass wants to drive your nice safe SUV on a nice paved road and enjoy all the tax payer provided infrastructure in your area that is totally subsidized by the taxpayers in the Seattle metro area. Like it or not little fella, the economy and taxes generated in urban Washington subsidize the rest of the State. Maybe they can ship some of the homeless to you so you can deal with them. You should be happy you can live in a nice quiet part of Washington. Why should some urbanite have to deal with factories, pollution, crime, traffic, higher taxes just so the State of Washington can take a piece to provide for infrastructure for you. You let us all know when bears deaths reach the levels of deaths in urban areas caused by crime, accidents, etc. People in Seattle deal with that everyday as best they can. They have to because that's where the jobs are. Quit your bitchin. Your slow burn is nothing compared to the burn folks in Seattle experience every day.

[@jakee4153]

They were here first. Where should grizzly bears live? Because there are humans everywhere so unless they are near people there is no place for them to go. But I'm guessing you think their lives don't matter.

[@the.original.throwback]

@@jakee4153 The question I'm trying to address is not where grizzly bears and wolves fit into our complex world, but how we, as a society, try to solve these difficult and polarizing problems. For the majority of voters to force their will on everyone else without regarding the consequences suffered by the minorities is not a real solution, at all. I'm 74 years old and remember the civil rights struggles of the 1950s and 1960s as our country struggled and fought to not let the majority rule and bully minorities. Sadly, I'm seeing our country divided as never before in my lifetime, and I don't hear many voices of reason and respect trying to hold to that high principle. I see a new majority reverting to old, ineffective and dangerous abuses of power that will not lead to prosperity and peace.

[@moe4meswtdg]

Grizzly bears are really scary. How anyone can support them wondering around places other than national parks is beyond me.

[@jakee4153]

@barbara karnowski People are killed by other people more than they're killed by grizzly bears or any other type of wild animal, for that matter. Humans are far more dangerous than grizzly bears, and a grizzly bear isn't capable of committing the heinous acts(like torture) humans are capable of. Bears can't be evil like humans can, and it's extremely foolish to be more afraid of bears than dangerous people. A person's chances of being killed by another human being are much higher than their chances of being killed by a bear. Also, most bears don't even attack people when encountered by them, just so you know. I suggest you read up on statistics about grizzly bears before condemning them to live in only a few small fragmented national parks. Did you know that grizzly bears used to live all over the Western United States before Europeans made them regionally extinct throughout most of the West? For the most part Native Americans coexisted peacefully with grizzly bears for thousands of years, and they weren't routinely slaughtered by the bears either. Actually, it was the exact opposite because Native Americans hunted them far more than they themselves were hunted by the bears. An interesting fact is that the flag of California actually has a grizzly bear on it, but the last grizzly bear in the entire state was shot and killed in the early 1900s. I can't imagine how you can be so selfish as to think wild animals should be forced to live in just a few small areas because they're "scary." If you're ever in an area where they live, you should still be far more afraid of your own species than you should be of grizzly bears or any other type of wild animal.

[@josephgiri2398]

This rancher is the most articulate levelheaded example I've ever seen.

[@russellfleet7636]

Thay need to move a pack to Portland city park and a pack to Salem to complete the ecosystems there. Then that side of the state would have a valid right to have a say.

[@YowzaBowzaWowza]

Urban dwellers are not only surrounded by coyotes but share their neighborhoods with them. Most people just don’t know it.

[@4knanapapa]

I I've in a town in metro Detroit, we have a large pop. of coyote ,most don't give them a second thought till their dog or cat disappear, there are always losts of missing pets posted on the local bulletin boards.

[@catfishjohn56]

worng many people biten now many put blue windo clearer in there dog pop bag they throw in brush it kills them when you have dog killed on leash and see it you will kill evey coyote you see for life dark chocolate kills them to sad some county now rehearing trappers full time one told me they are teaking provo virus to kill them in will get 90 per remenber a feed coyote is a dead coyote

[@dougjohnson4266]

True, I live in Forest Grove, OR, and we have coyote packs that run through my yard along with deer, cats, dogs, chipmunks, birds, rats, squirrels and mice. There are also bears and elk that are seen in the area occasionally.

[@emilysummer1373]

Big difference between coyotes and wolves.

[@philipbriney4430]

I eliminate all the damn coyotes I see.

[@haydensantos6474]

There is a reason why wolves were almost extinct by the 1900s in America.

[@elkelittleleaf5228]

😂

[@Sheepheadz]

because americans are idiots?

[@mikecarlton9000]

Also the native Americans. But the problem wasn't the wolves nor the natives, it was the invasive species from england.

[@ratherbwithhorses]

When we let people who are not effected make the decisions for people qho pay the price , the world is upside down.

[@bonzocleach2496]

Really? Did you mine the lithium for your cell phone yourself? You probably refine your own gasoline too.

[@curtisstanley1472]

@@bonzocleach2496That is a moronic statement that has absolutely nothing to do with the comment you replied to. Idiot!

[@MrRAGE-md5rj]

@@bonzocleach2496 I don't see YOU going to save orphans in Africa.

[@bonzocleach2496]

@@MrRAGE-md5rj So what?

[@Driftwoodgeorge]

I live in N Wisconsin and been living with wolves for 30 years and never had a problem at all.

[@chillboner]

We should provide tents and free dog food to the wolves so they stop attacking the cows. These wolves are just down on their luck. -- Portland

[@terrykoch1250]

Do you open range your cattle?

[@Driftwoodgeorge]

@@terrykoch1250 my neighbor across the road has beef cattle, he hasn't any problems with the wolves.

[@Driftwoodgeorge]

And there's some big timbe wolves that pass through my property.

[@bodyzoasispersonaltraining9186]

It's lazy farming and new land owners w lots of the issues likely.

[@ricosaurus]

Sad for dog. Most ranchers I know usually lose their dogs to accidents. Or had dogs killed by coyote poison/ traps.

[@save2a4all]

It's always tragic. Seems like a solid farmer though who wants a balance of wolves, and acknowledges his dog was just a dog. Farmers see life and death every day, they are more accustomed to it than city folk!

[@IdahoSewing]

I've known more dogs killed by coyotes, than by the coyote poison. I did almost lose my first dog to a trap. She had a bad habit of running away to the neighbors' places every time she smelled them cooking. But the coyotes consider domestic dogs to be trespassers, and they lure them out away from home and kill them. Wolves are just coyotes times 5.

[@apbt067]

@@save2a4all the most common opinion of those that aren’t dog people. He didn’t say his dog was just a dog. What the hell is that suppose to mean? Like you or any other human is a god of some sort. We breath air,piss and shit the same as a dog or any other animal. A dog is one of if not the most loyal animal on the planet not to mention how versatile and useful they are. A good dog will be more loyal to you than your wife, kids or family. I damn sure wouldn’t need or ask permission to eliminate wolves.

[@save2a4all]

@@apbt067 he wasn't calling for an extinction of the wolves again just because they killed his dog. Live in the wild, accept the wild... Not remove the wild. Same for bears, coyotes, bobcats, etc. Was not trying to say dogs are not amazing and loyal, but some would be so sensitive to that loss (or a child!) and emotionally call to kill all the wolves and not accept that they live in the wild.

[@IdahoSewing]

@@FirstLast-gv1zl You are correct. Wolves are likely to leave the ones that are unable to run. When a pack of wolves kills 14 elk in a pile, you can't tell me that they were only going for the sick and injured. The other thing is territorial disputes. If you have dogs, and the wolves decide to annex your location, your dogs now become "trespassers" who are dealt with according to the law of the jungle.

[@jacobishii6121]

Washington has been talking east west split as well

[@catherineladd5300]

I wonder if re-introducing wolves to Portland would help to thin out the homeless herd.

[@standunitedorfall1863]

It's worth a try. And then maybe the leftist herd.

[@davidtunstill5483]

I think they would have to keep a close eye on there wolves. I own a rifle and a shovel and can keep a secret

[@bonzocleach2496]

I'm sure you have a rifle and a shovel; as for the rest...well...I ain't buying it for minute.

[@davidtunstill5483]

@@bonzocleach2496 your right. I would hang his hide to the barn wall

[@1971jwing]

just my Opinion, Why not use a wolf chaser? Like they do in Montana and Wyoming and Colorado for nuisance predators? Why not consult the native americans who have lived with the wolf for eons.? Why not canadians how they manage wolves or even Alaskans? Any rancher losing money to a wolf kill should be compensated. Concentrated kills use a chaser. You currenly live with Bears Wolverines Cougars etc. Wolves like grizzly need to active persuasives to understand. This is not a topic that should divide anyone. With changing climate, we all need to work togethter to keep Oregon Incredible.

[@cwcobo]

Yes, let's ask native Americans how, for eons, they prevented wolves from attaching their cattle herds. Likewise, we need to find the secret of how those large Alaskan cattle ranches keep wolves at bay.

[@nerotrd]

Native americans did not have cattle though, and they lived differently, closer and with nature as people these days and i´m sure they also had a love-hate relationship with wolves.

[@cwcobo]

@@nerotrd Yes, my point. The original poster believes native Americans kept cattle and that there are large cattle ranches in Alaska. Neither are true. Thanks for so astutely picking up on that.

[@someone92353]

​@@cwcobo @1971jwing said Oregon ranchers could consult with Canadians, Alaskans, and Native Americans on how they deal with, or prevent, wolf attacks on their lands. Jwing didn't ask how native americans managed cattle. Since some Native American tribes view the wolf as sacared, perhaps they have humane ways of dealing with wolves when wolf territory crosses into reservation land. Why ridicule Jwing for proposing the question?

[@1971jwing]

@@cwcobo Oh maybe frame it this way. Predators predate things. Not just cattle right? Alaskans do have cows infact. My suggestion is quit focusing on trigger words and focus on the solutions. While we are on cattle how about all the nitrogen in the ground water? Natives put that too,? The point is that wolves must exist right next to the cows. Use a chaser. Drones etc.

[@danw6014]

Yeah they told us that the coyotes here in Michigan would control the white tail deer. Now we have an overpopulation of both. We lost over sixty lambs one summer and after that decided to get Great Pyrenees Guard dogs. Everytime a rancher or farmer loses livestock to a predator they get a pay cut, but it doesn't cost city people anything and that why there is a disconnect.

[@rockstarofredondo]

Just another attack on meat, which is our natural ancestral diet.

[@thierrynolevaux9268]

That is what great Pyrénées are for. You need a few. Kangols or gamprs are great as well. Again, need a few as one or two can't do the job. Having lived in South Africa, if you have a few good guard dogs and good fencing, you don't have a problem with predators. A lot of these farmers seem to be playing the martyr role and relying on the support of others... they sure aren't conservationists. Far from it.

[@danw6014]

@@thierrynolevaux9268 well out in Oregon is what is considered range land. In Michigan the coyotes were not previously here. So I consider them an invasive species brought in by so called conservationists who also spread other plants that are choking out the meadow lands.

[@thierrynolevaux9268]

@@danw6014 Everyone knows ranchers and farmers are the worst conservationists.

[@danw6014]

@@thierrynolevaux9268 yes because we like to pollute our own land for pennies on the dollar to feed you.

[@dottier3145]

Very fine reporting! Do more of it! Have a reporter on the east side permanently

[@goanddo2371]

Need a lot more upvotes to this comment

[@jmjosemora16]

Mabe someone can link him up with some of those big gaurdian dogs that are bred specifically to fend off wolves. Kengals I think they are called. They are bred for cold weather and grow upwards of 120 pounds

[@douglaspefferd.c.2988]

Kangles are tough and their are other good breeds to protect stock. 750 lb bite a G shepard is 250. They go after wolves bears cheetas lions.

[@markwilson4110]

Get a Great Pyrenees

[@douglaspefferd.c.2988]

@@markwilson4110 that works

[@henrimatisse7481]

donkeys

[@rustyhowe3907]

I doubt such a dog or even a pack of them could take on an entire wolf pack, let along be able to take on that particular size of wolf (possibly).

[@eliinthewolverinestate6729]

We have bears, wolves, and lions in the U.P. of Michigan. A lot more wolves and bears in a smaller area. That dog shouldn't of been left out like that. He has cows not buffalo. The cattle should have protection like a barn. Most states have such laws. When you free range cows the rancher should protect his heard. To me it sounds like rancher there needs to step up. Get up at 4 am and protect your cattle. At least that's when I hear them make a kill while at camp.

[@robpederson281]

Well Eli the wolverine. Have you ever seen a wolverine or a wolf? Have you ever moved a 1000 cows into a barn to protect them every night. Ranch dogs are left "out" to somewhat protect the ranch at night. Wolves hunt 365 -24-7. How many nights are you going to stay awake and protect your herd. Get a clue city kid. Let the ranchers protect themselves. I wouldn't ask for permission

[@Reed411]

@@robpederson281 Well Rob Pederson, don't you think a business model that requires the killing of rare mammals in 2023 is a bit out of touch? Sounds to me like a flaw in the location you choose to raise cattle. Also it's beef, something we could all do with a little less of.

[@rowdyscooter4094]

Man. Has. Right to. Protect... His. Family .& animals.... Heck..with ...STATE...PROTECTION...

[@swiftclawtheshadowpup808]

As a farmer i can say.. You must learn to live with it. The wolves have just as much if not more of a right to be here. Its our job as farmers to better secure and protect our livestock not to pushback on mother nature and kill her children.

[@robertneven7563]

and you tell us you are a farmer???????????????????????????????????,,,,big joke, sitty slicker fuck of with your bloody wolf idiot

[@mikecarlton9000]

One smart farmer.

[@robertoneven2803]

@@mikecarlton9000 kil them al fucking wolves

[@naomitoevs677]

Sir, Im sorry for your loss of your companion.

[@jacobishii6121]

They were planted in Idaho......these are Canadian gray wolves not the much smaller NW timber wolf subspecies.They are causing havock

[@motivationalstunna]

Causing havoc? To who? The species that killed almost all the wolves and stole their territory? Lol what a joke. Humans are the ones causing havoc

[@louisliu5638]

Canadian bears, cougars , and wolves don't seem to recognize the US border. Is it like Vegas?? they go NUTS in the USA? Or is it incompetent MANAGMENT and decades of US stupidity?? We have radio collared black bears that cover from where I am north of Cranbrook into Idaho andthey are ONLY a problem when they go to the CASINO?? in Spokane?? tHUG BEARS.

[@wolfbyte2468]

Actually, they're the exact same subspecies. Canis lupus occidentalis, also known as the northwestern wolf, is one of four grey wolf subspecies native to North America. Canis lupus arctos (the arctic wolf) is found in the far north of Canada, Canis lupus baileyi (the mexican wolf) is found in the southwest and southern Midwest of the US and most of Mexico, Canis lupus nubilus (great plains wolf) is found in the Midwest US and some of northeast Canada, and Canis lupus occidentalis is found along the western third of North America. This is the most recent classification according to genetic evidence. You may be thinking of the outdated classification of North American grey wolves, where there were 20+ subspecies. Genetic evidence has now shown that these subspecies did not differ enough to be considered separate subspecies, and they were combined into the four subspecies I mentioned above. In the southeast there's the red wolf (Canis rufus rufus), a separate species more related to coyotes than grey wolves, and in the northeast there's the Algonquin wolf (Canis lycaon or Canis rufus lycaon), which is either a subspecies of red wolf or a separate species closely related to the red wolf. Hope this helps!

[@moe4meswtdg]

Years ago I ran into a gal that owned a ranch in a very isolated area of B.C.Canada where these timber wolves live and she said that we must be crazy to introduce them here in the States as they are alpha predators and at her ranch they employ humans guards to keep them at bay. Ranch hands who stay up at night with firearms to keep them away from the livestock.

[@ZEEKUPP]

I live and hunt in Eastern Oregon. I have seen wolves twice without incident. I am always armed when I go there. Small capacity magazines my ass! It just goes to show how out of touch the Capital is with Eastern Oregon.

[@williambailey8931]

Dude much respect,hard not to .

[@mikestone9129]

Wolves can wipe a rancher out if allowed to go unchecked. Ranchers should be allowed to protect their herds.

[@osamanazzal4302]

Protect their herds, but not hunt them.

[@greggoodfellow2834]

I live in Idaho and the deer and elk are not doing so well. Wolves are devastating our big game herds. We at least have a hunting season for them.

[@thuggoe]

elk probably got dumb after 80 years without wolves

[@joytrujillo9447]

No one needs a permit to protect their property.

[@arcatacompany]

What about the state of Jefferson

[@woodskier]

Was surrounded by wolves x-c skiing in Averill Vermont 30 years ago. The wolves, form a triangle around you, you have no chance if they decide to move. I didnt threaten them at all.....i backed away, or i wouldnt be here. You get the idea right away that wolves are fearless, smart and prefer food like deer and rabbits. Nothing in the wild has a chance against a determined wolf pack.

[@mr.halloween87]

Vermont?

[@TheREALLibertyOrDeath]

Coyotes?

[@slatsgrobneck7515]

surrounded...but was able to back away?

[@PG-3462]

​​@@slatsgrobneck7515 And there are no wolves in Vermont nor in any location in New England, nor in Southern Québec since centuries So what this guy saw was probably coyotes, and coyotes rarely live in group so the whole story is a bit weird. It could be some wild dogs?

[@jturtle5318]

​@@PG-3462 coyotes will join up to hunt at times. Then they can take bigger prey like deer There was a case of a pack of them killing a woman walking on a trail near a park, not deep woods backpacking.

[@Ivan-pl2it]

I'm thinking nobody remembers why it is we got rid of them the first time. Alaska did the same bs and the Hurd animals have suffered numbers down 50% If u ever get to see a wolf take down an animal, it's a site to remember, one dog on nose one on tail and others ripping stomach open and intestines wrapped around brush, it ain't real warm and fuzzy.

[@ChrisC-bc8od]

In no way does our small family farm in Nampa ID come close to this experience. But losing any livestock to wild animals hits harder for people that see the aftermath IN PERSON. I hope Ontario to Pendleton join us sooner than later!

[@save2a4all]

I hope you can have guard dogs and other defenses, while letting wildlife wolves live nearby with farms animals.

[@phillip5545]

No, they need to MOVE to Idaho! Oregon is Oregon!

[@save2a4all]

@@phillip5545 the problem is Portland (Potland?) things THEY are Oregon

[@sedg03]

"Ontario to Pendleton" And there you have it? LDS #DEZNAT agenda.

[@markjensen663]

Been living in Minnesota my whole life among 3000 wolves. Hiking, camping & canoeing for forty years and just saw my first wolf on the trail this past year. He saw me and hightailed it into the thick woods more afraid of me than me of him. Most Minnesotans never see one in their lifetime. I have heard them calling at night occasionally though.

[@gentlegiants1974]

Scatter a dozen helpless newborn calves around in your back field and see if any show up. We don't have wolves, but we have many packs of coyotes. Around here we shoot them if we can.

[@kbo730]

@@gentlegiants1974 are you from Georgia???? Coyotes are awful here.

[@gentlegiants1974]

@@kbo730 Eastern Ontario Canada

[@apbt067]

That’s cause he was alone, if his pack was with him it probably would have been different.

[@lisam4503]

@@gentlegiants1974 I live in Arizona lots of Cattle and Coyotes running around! Coyotes don't total your car if you hit one cows do! Then you got to pay for the cow on top if you survive! Other than understanding we need beef I'll take Coyotes over Cows and loose dogs any day of the week! Number one animal killer of people in Arizona dogs!

[@MexicoAdventurer]

So sorry to hear that. My best outside guard dog (who has killed at least 6 coyotes over the past year after he just "showed up" at my house) was attacked and disemboweled a week ago by a pack of coyotes. In the middle of the day. Rest in peace, Spot. Read the stupid comments by idiots below who don't understand anything.

[@agentsnakeplisskin]

Sounds like u let ur dog down. U have one dog in an area with known coyotes and u leave him outside alone. Ur to blame for his death. Ur dumb.

[@jturtle5318]

That's awful. I'm sorry for your loss.

[@thierrynolevaux9268]

Need more numbers and weight to offset the pack. Sorry for your dog though.

[@MexicoAdventurer]

@Kaggen I'm actively recruiting at least 4 big street dogs to sleep outside my gate and guard my property. There are burglars, kidnappers and coyotes here. Very dangerous.

[@thierrynolevaux9268]

@@MexicoAdventurer In that case, you need a few rhodesian ridgebacks.

[@bradleytenderholt5135]

I thought a wolf permit came with a spade! Are they not cheap permits? Just curious!

[@markwest8960]

Eastern Oregon.... don't resign to staying part of Oregon. Join Idaho, make it happen. Pulling for you all!

[@henrimatisse7481]

Is Idee Ho killing all predators except for Man?

[@Gramma195]

I am so sorry you lost your beloved dog.. a right hand helper .. Have you considered Great Pyrenees. livestock guardian dogs? Sure hope things get better for you!

[@dbrasco22]

Exactly what I said kangals Anatolians Caucasian shepherds central Asian shepherds all excellent with large predator loads

[@distilledfreedom1840]

Pa lease. Dogs are property and are meant for work. It is a financial hit but holy moly we need to stop anthropomorphize animals. Wolves are a natural predator which is a integral part of the system.

[@bbkyjohnson]

Just my opinion but they don’t want to use that option because it’s simply easier to kill the problem then pay for feeding 10-15 Pyrenees or similar breeds to protect their animals. In all honesty I’m a fan of using lgds but some of those areas are vast and 15 might not be enough to protect their animals.

[@aledakivett9255]

​@Brent johnson I has upwards of 1000 goats go through my heart and hands. Couldn't have done so without my good dogs. He can feed a lot of dogs from the proceeds from the market animals they save.

[@bbkyjohnson]

I understand that. They don’t care in my opinion. Profits are more important in my opinion.

[@elaine8477]

We need a fund that compensates ranchers for lost animals including pets. So sorry for his loss.

[@jman6109]

Do i get compensation for losing my dog from the government?

[@mattalley4330]

Did you not listen to the video? It clearly mentions not only said fund but how much it has paid out since it was established. Maybe listen before commenting?

[@goddessofthewilderness]

Seriously, Leave your dog inside at night…

[@durgan5668]

Which part of 'guard dog' did you miss?

[@Froby2378]

One lone dog is not a guard dog against wolves, clearly. If he actually loved his dog it would’ve been inside at night.

[@Doktracy]

Yeah,border collies aren’t livestock guarding dogs.

[@thuggoe]

this idea that you exterminate all the big predators and release your wild animals and dogs into the wild for 6 months with no supervision is a joke

[@Easternoregon1]

Yeah because we don't need food to eat. You just go to the supermarket and buy it.

[@Sheepheadz]

@@Easternoregon1 your parents are siblings arent they?

[@michaelsiebers138]

The problem with too many wolves is not an Oregon issue alone. In Michigans Upper peninsula the wolf numbers have increased dramatically in recent years. I spoke with a conservation officer recently that told me the whitetail deer numbers in the eastern UP are down to 1 deer per 8 square miles! Predation on livestock and family pets has also become a huge issue. I see a lot of the same problems here in Michigan as in Oregon where people from the big cities that control the elections dont really understand the or care about rural population concerns and way of life.

[@ellenmcdaniel1550]

You could send see wolves down to Indiana maybe...our deer population has been booming for way too long and is too big now. So much so that they eat our corn in broad daylight! This happened because of our DNR being in the red for so long and CONSTANTLY raising the price on deer hunting tags. And there is no other predator of deer in Indiana except man and coyotes, and coyotes don't usually take down a full grown deer, just a baby here and there or an injured one. Coyotes prefer our cats.

[@mattkolaszewski7942]

Most places in the U.P. have a severe overpopulation of deer. Not only that, but people feeding deer during the winter make a wolf buffet. Hunters get mad because they think they should be the only ones killing deer.

[@michaelsiebers138]

@@ellenmcdaniel1550 We would like to relocate them to Lansing so the politicians have a first hand account of their appetite.

[@dundonrl]

Wait a few years, they will start preying on humans next.

[@wahrheitsliebender]

Its not only the USA, its the oldest culture and grazing lands in Europe / Germany as well, as I have written in a new comment here... The Leftists / Atheists are all "godless, judged bastards", which destroy everything they get hold off....

[@margaretmoore1608]

sorry to hear about the loss of the dog. Here in Eugene, we have raccoons that’ll tear up a dog real bad. I keep mine in at night. Also, deer will kick he crap out of a dog and coyotes are eating cats. We don’t have any cows here, tho.

[@charlessavoie2367]

A mountain lion was found terribly chewed and lacerated with one broken leg. In the deep snow, footprints of a wolverine, mixed with those of the lion, told the story.

[@ZEEKUPP]

@@charlessavoie2367 Wolverines fear nothing.

[@shirleyflamand7333]

😢

[@Rochelle937]

Wow. Glad I live in a city. We just have to worry about human predators!

[@margaretmoore1608]

@@Rochelle937 What a bunch of crybabies, right?

[@troysmith5331]

I bet if a pack of those wolves caught a ride into Portland they would be singing a different tune

[@bahlsdeepe868]

It is sad to hear that farmers story...

[@richardbailey5842]

Why is it so sad? Sure he lost a dog, it happens. Should we outlaw all cars, they kill more dogs. This whole series seams to be a lot of wining about nothing. If you don't like the state and it's politics move elsewhere, I did. Not sorry Oregon want let you kill all the other wildlife that interfere with your livelihood. That's the reason I move here.

[@bradiethomson9555]

I’m up in Canada and they leave livestock alone never a problem.

[@TheREALLibertyOrDeath]

😂

[@claytonvannshizzle9607]

Isn't there a wild hog problem in the south? I think you should relocate some wolves. What a great nature show that would be.

[@samuelsullivan9546]

We have a very serious problem with feral hogs in Texas. There are no wolves or foxes here. I would like to ask ranchers if they would put up with wolves if wolves would reduce the number of hogs.

[@that.schamp]

@@samuelsullivan9546 We have foxes: mostly the native grey, but also some invasive reds. Ranchers are likely to take a potshot at you just for asking such a stupid question. Farmers might give it some thought.

[@that.schamp]

Feral hogs would tear up wolves just as badly as they do my neighbors corn. Maybe Wolves can pick off more suckers and shoats than the coyotes, cougars, and bobcats manage - slowing down the population growth a wee bit - but I don't see a big impact happening. What Wolves would do is remove the coyotes... And coyotes are a *much* more manageable predator than Wolves are. Anyway, the wolves coming down from the north are not well adapted to the South. The wolves that lived in the south before extirpation had smaller bodies, long legs, smaller pack sizes... Much more like coyotes.

[@sedg03]

@@that.schamp what you do is you getcha a good wild hog dog and breed it to another good wild hog dog. And you turn em loose to chase them hogs into a shed w one little window high up. 'Course not all them wild hog dogs are gonna make it out alive? But them that does? Are good wild hog dogs." Prolly paraphrased- vicki Hearne.. ;(

[@miguelguevara4375]

If they got money to take care of dozens of cows surely they can afford some big farm dogs to watch over their livestock

[@FreeAmerican-mm2my]

I keep finding dead wolves on my ranch. No one knows how they are being killed..

[@rogerramjet7567]

Great!!

[@sasquatchrosefarts]

I bet your hogs hate eating the carcasses.

[@motivationalstunna]

It's probably some entitled liberal killing them because they think they're more important even though they cause more destruction than wolves. I know.... dumb right?

[@ropo772]

Man's gotta do what a man's gotta do. Just like living in the hood in Chicago.

[@stephenarmstrong7354]

Until someone from the westside loses a family member to wolves nothing will change. Same goes for cougars and bears.

[@henrimatisse7481]

do you propose killing off all endemic predators?

[@mikecarlton9000]

@ henri matisse, These people don't goddamn think.

[@realisrealite5554]

Arm up and take the fight to the wolves.I killed two dogs for attacking my dog I wouldn't hesitate to kill wolves.

[@mattlloyd9054]

It's all about balance with nature I have too many deer in my area and it's dangerous to drive after dark. We've reintroduced coyotes, have mountain lions, and have people that still hunt but the deer don't live in the woods anymore they live in our neighborhoods where the predators aren't hunting them....yet. the idea of a mountain lion outside my house is scary

[@tommycash9]

Reintroduced Coyotes? I've never heard of that. What state do you live in?

[@terrymcguire8476]

The deer moved into the neighborhoods to seek refuge from predators. If there wasn't a predator problem , the deer would be back out in the countryside.

[@robfreel8010]

LoL

[@stonemagic540]

My idead of scary, is illegel aliens

[@mattlloyd9054]

@@tommycash9 in far southwestern Virginia they brought them back in the 90s now I'm not certain but the mountain lions I'm pretty sure returned naturally.

[@rememberthefallen1970]

On top of this struggle, your guns have been extremely restricted as well

[@johnbravo1005]

If they run in front of your bullet while target shooting it not your fault

[@motivationalstunna]

I say the same thing about idiots who make comments like this. Screw those type of people. I love being American but hate dealing with the idiots that come with it

[@wolfbyte2468]

Legally speaking it kind of is. If you don't have a proper license to hunt wolves... that would be poaching, and that can land you in jail. If you want to hunt wolves, make sure you do so legally.

[@skydivingcomrade1648]

Wolves are not needed when people hunt.

[@lorenbush8876]

Kill the things and bury them, to hell with their damned laws, just don't get caught, it's self defense.

[@motivationalstunna]

I say the same about entitled idiots like you

[@jimmartini77]

Great reporting

[@donnahollett1875]

This farmer needs actual farm guard dogs like the Maremma. There are a number of breeds that could defend the cattle from wolves. It would be worth checking into.

[@lukecoppersammy]

I thought about this too. Then realized he would need to keep 10-20 dogs to fight a whole pack of wolves. Not very realistic.

[@ChauncyFatsack]

He let his dog dye for attention everyone knows he only cares about his cows and money well the wolves were there first so to many wolves how about to many cows and farmers duh

[@aquariusmoon771]

Does he sell those cows or cattle for meat? If do he's as much a KILLER as the wolves, more so actually. Very sorry he lost his dog but why the h*** did he leave his dog out alone?

[@ChauncyFatsack]

@@aquariusmoon771 exactly when he knows what wolves do! Im not buying his sob story for one second he knew this would happen and is trying to get people to vote out of sympathy when the wolves are just doing what comes naturally.he could very easily keep his dogs and cows safe and one cow would feed a wolf pack for months and you know he probably looses more then one cow a month of natural causes.he's just a millionaire farmer politician looking for a scape goat!

[@norseman5041]

@@ChauncyFatsack And the first winner of today's Darwin Award goes to

[@camas77721]

I think it would only be fair to release a large population of wolves here in Multnomah Co and every other county in the willamette valley.

[@camas77721]

As someone that lives in western Oregon it’s absolutely absurd and disgusting to me that anyone living here or anywhere else that isn’t eastern Oregon could be so delusional and ignorant as to believe that their opinions on the subject hold any sort of importance or validity. ESPECIALLY those opinions that vilify or contradict those that actually live there and deal with this issue on a daily basis. Sick and tired of these morons and what they’ve done to this state. Especially in the western part/large cities. And I’ll be damned if I sit idly by and watch as they try to do the same to Eastern OR as well.

[@specops1903]

If you're living in the wolfs territory then these are the consequences you deal with.. they were there long before anyone else.. people are moving farther and farther into their territory what are they supposed to do? You don't like it then move to Idaho.

[@camas77721]

@@specops1903 I could care less. wolves don’t matter more than human beings do. It’s easy to sit on your high horse and preach pompous nonsense when you’re not dealing with the problem first hand. And thats a pretty hypocritical take. It doesn’t matter where you live, in order for your home to be built, the homes and habitats of plants and wildlife had to be destroyed first. You idiots are the ones that are going to cause real harm to wolf population by setting them up to get massacred. If you think people will just let their communities or the communities of their fellow statesmen be terrorized by wild animals, you are severely mistaken. And I’ll stay right where I am. I refuse to let morons like you continue to ruin this state. And I’m just one of MANY that feel the same. You POS are truly naive and ignorant.

[@IdahoSewing]

@@specops1903 That is why half of Oregon wants to become Idaho, too.

[@specops1903]

@@IdahoSewing problem there is idahions don't want them there. They're very selfish people.

[@awack_]

we have no large cites in Western Oregon!. and you can move anytime.

[@MexicoAdventurer]

That dog looks eerily similar to my outside guard dog that coyotes killed last week.

[@alk6225]

hope that the ranchers are being heard. i am sure that they are pragmatic about the need for the preservation of wolves. they cannot be expected to manage the situation on their own.

[@mattalley4330]

As the video mentions, the laws do allow for problem wolves who have a pattern of attacking livestock to be killed and there is a fund to compensate ranchers for animals killed by wolves.

[@wholesome122]

How are these animals supposed to naturally select and learn good manners with people if we can’t cull the bold ones that are a problem?

[@mattalley4330]

Did you not listen to the video? We can, and the laws allow for it with wolves that show patterns of problem behavior.

[@edward5979]

For those who support the wolf program, let’s bring the wolves to them and the suburban areas that vote for them. If it’s good for the country, make it good for the city.

[@elkelittleleaf5228]

Your right up there with some of trumps bs suggestions..😂

[@motivationalstunna]

Bring them on. At least I'll have the comfort of not being an idiot like you. People are so entitled these days

[@ronnie32567]

@@elkelittleleaf5228 and it’s obvious you are one of them lunatic warm and fuzzy liberals that ain’t smart enough to pour piss out of a boot with the directions on the heel!!!!

[@bonzocleach2496]

When and where was there a "wolf vote" or referendum? There wasn't one you ignorant hick.

[@allan8816]

But are wolves regulating the deer and elk or are they regulating rancher's cattle because they are easier prey?

[@jakee4153]

Way more dogs and livestock get killed by people in cars, poison people put out, slaughtered for human consumption (livestock,)etc. but no one seems to think driving cars should be gotten rid of. Some people are such hypocrites. Wolves have just as much right to live as dogs and livestock!

[@thuggoe]

"hating" wolves , an animal almost genetically identical to a dog, is an insane concept

[@betalis7]

The wolves killed his dog, hating wild animals that butcher family pets and livestock is perfectly reasonable.

[@Sheepheadz]

@@betalis7 ooh nooo not the heccin doggerinooo

[@doneaton6704]

175 wolves over how many acres? Really?

[@natashatomlinson4548]

He must’ve “ loved “ his dog but only so much - he wouldn’t even let his dog inside his house safe at night .

[@wildernesssurvivalandthriv7953]

See this is the talk of a fat coddled suburban woman with no perspective on rural life. Your honestly despicable. This isn’t the mans fault, rural folks don’t have retrievers or terriers we have work dogs that do work outside, and usually those dogs prefer to stay outside in the first place cause that’s what they know and love. Honestly kill the wolves, there a menace to humans and animals.

[@edward5979]

Not all dogs want to inside or cats for that matter. When the wolves make it to suburban areas, they’ll have plenty of food.

[@natashatomlinson4548]

@@edward5979 Wrong. Dogs aren’t stupid . It’s freaking upper Oregon and you’re telling me that the average dog doesn’t at least want to come in from the cold 4-5 months out of the year ? Gtfoh. Smh. The only dog I’ve ever seen that has problems staying inside is a husky because they prefer cold weather - and that’s no dead husky in the photo. Plus, even if the dog was a husky doesn’t the guy at least care enough about his dog to protect him from possible predators ? At least keep him on the cold porch or an outbuilding where he will be safe ? Dude- the guy didn’t care about his dog enough. I bet if the dog had been a cow he actually could’ve made money off of he would’ve “ protected his investment.” He didn’t care enough about the dog. It’s just an objective fact. It’s ok to admit it.

[@Sheepheadz]

@@edward5979 good i hope they eat all the homeless

[@ronnie32567]

@@natashatomlinson4548 how old are you? How long did it take you to get this stupid???? Inquiring minds want to know!!!!

[@freedomforever6718]

It's simple really. If you own or lease the land you should be able to control the predators on it.

[@tombeegeeeye5765]

Actually it is not that simple. Ownership of land never gives you complete control of it. You cannot dam a stream upriver from neighbor a law 5000 years old.

[@freedomforever6718]

@@tombeegeeeye5765 , Pure nonsense.

[@freedomforever6718]

@@tombeegeeeye5765 , Streams aren't predators.

[@antonrehling1966]

It is not going to happen to integrate Oregon with Idaho. But, it is conceivable to imagine a new state of eastern Oregon sperating from the western side of the state. Same with the eastern side of Washington.

[@rockstarofredondo]

I don’t think any of the above will happen but it’s good that people are talking about it because at least it’s becoming mainstream to admit that these states are being ruined and we cannot continue with the kind of people currently in charge.

[@ratherbwithhorses]

Many rural people would like to stop being oppressed by city nonsense.

[@bonzocleach2496]

@@ratherbwithhorses Many rural people have no idea or appreciation that the bulk of their infrastructure and services are heavily subsidized by city taxpayers. Your dumb ass appears to be one of those people. I'm sure your local law enforcement and public school educators would be thrilled to work for $12.00 an hour an no health insurance from your local tax base.

[@sedg03]

LDS #DEZNAT will do whatever it takes to grab lands n waters, including murder. They're hearing voices of god... that the rest of us don't.

[@CentralasianshepherdAlabaiUSA]

Why not to use pack of livestock guardian dogs?

[@that.schamp]

LGD's are being widely and rapidly adopted in many parts of the west and northwest, by both small and large producers, and often with the support of research and instruction from land grant universities. Texas doesn't even have Wolves yet, and our sheep producers are already funding an LGD Program at Texas A&M. Unfortunately, wolves expanding into the northern states have evolved to take down large game like moose and elk. This means large wolves that form large packs - with 10 being average and 20 not unusual. Even with large aggressive dogs like the Alabai, you need your dogs to substantially outnumber the local wolf population. Sending dogs own in insufficient numbers risks massive casualties of both dogs and livestock. Packs of sufficient size to reliably deter attacks by these wolves can only be afforded by very large livestock producers, so wolves add an additional stress to family farms.

[@CentralasianshepherdAlabaiUSA]

@@that.schamp I got calls from big scale farmers,they want to buy puppy to fight wolf( quoting what they said). When I explained that one central Asian Shepherd can't protect against pack you need few ,they lose interest. They re upset to lose cows,but too cheap to invest in good dogs

[@distilledfreedom1840]

I live in wolf country. We are wary, but I just carry a weapon, not worried at all. If I had cattle I’d def take advantage of the compensation fund along w mitigation methods that don’t kill the wolf. We enjoy hearing them and will take the wolf danger any day over the crime ridden neighborhoods of the coast.

[@henrimatisse7481]

Thanks!

[@jamesbohlman4297]

There are farms that receive 26 inches of rain a year; and there are ranches which recieve only 11 inches of precipitation a year. The later is much more difficult to make a living off of.

[@mattalley4330]

Thanks for that highly relevant little tidbit that is completely germane to the topic at hand...

[@timmiller5170]

need a hunt season just like mountain cats and bears.

[@jturtle5318]

In areas where there have been more than X number of livestock or pet attacks, not everywhere.

[@johnd1655]

No, those are all terrible things to do.

[@lilwinged5291]

WOLF ATTACK 2 MILES FROM US HERE IN SOUTHERN ,OREGON. NEWS CALLED IT ALLEGED... THE MAN ATTACKED is Healing .. chomped on his head and body. Miracle he's alive. They literally tried to say cougar or dog ☹️.. can you imagine how the victim feels. We stayed in the house for 3 days.

[@mikewharton5001]

Live in Montana with more wolves and griz then anywhere else in the West and some of the highest populations of black bear and mt lions, but somehow we live just fine here...

[@johnkrupnik8717]

There has to be some kind of a balance I feel bad that he lost his dog

[@JamesSmith-iy5nm]

I call B.S. on that second news story. Those people minding their own business on the out skirts just want to be left alone.

[@norseman5041]

That cowboy has a solid view on the world. Acknowledging he is not the only one with a opinion. We need to preserve wildlife, yes. but we also need food. Without farmers we will be in short supply very soon. So, listening to these guys who walk the fields and is not behind a desk taking popular dictions ins very important. Maybe I might suggest you get a few great pyrene dogs. Maybe 5-6 of them, they work for food, they are known not to back down from wolves and have the size to stand their ground. But you need a few, as only a couple would be ''out gunned'' by a flock of wolves.

[@williammurray1341]

As with cougar, bear, and now wolverine, this will become a safety issue when a wolf stakes out a Portland or Eugene playground or elementary school.

[@catto-m]

Just raise Kangals or Tibetan mastiffs. They fight Leopards and wolves in their native lands and work great in Africa against big game predators. Im sure they can handle wolves and bears in Oregon

[@standunitedorfall1863]

@@catto-m The wolves, and coyotes tag team the dogs who are usually alone. Coyotes can take down a full grown buck. One dog has no chance alone. A 100 lb ranch dog was killed by wolves north of Joseph in NE Oregon. The vast majority of Oregon's wolves are in NE Oregon. You need at least 2 guard dogs working together otherwise they will be dead meat.

[@thierrynolevaux9268]

@@standunitedorfall1863 Look up Gampr dogs from Armenia. They work as shepherds for flocks of sheep and goats at high altitudes. The bigger the flock, the more dogs you need but 3 of them should be a minimum. It's stupid to have one dog in wolf country.

[@tylercain6523]

​@Kaggen yeah these wolves stand taller and carry more weight, along with a pack that is itself very territorial will tear them apart. But its okay. I don't expect people who don't live with the issue to understand. But there are easier, cheaper ways to handle it.

[@thierrynolevaux9268]

@@tylercain6523 🤣🤣🤣 Clown who assumes or american who knows it all. Grew up in central africa where we have real predators but look up the Kangol and Gampr dogs. They will shred a wolf to pieces and born and bred to protect flocks at high altitudes. One won't do... need a few. Might learn something rather than resorting to a gun like every yankee degenerate does.

[@jamesmazzone7467]

YHVH Bless You and Your Family

[@patriciamunro493]

Wolves destroy elk herds and devastating effects on deer

[@colonelangus8247]

​@2dclxvi ODFW are politicians and bureaucrats they are not knowledgeable about the subject.

[@mikekuhn214]

Sorry about ur loss of ur dog sir. I could only wish Western Oregon would actually listen 2 Eastern Oregon?

[@bodyzoasispersonaltraining9186]

How is 175 wolves not endangered ?

[@goddessofthewilderness]

Exactly my thoughts!

[@KCbostons]

So informative and thank you for sharing!!! Sorry to hear about his dog and struggles.

[@mattkolaszewski7942]

If you live in the wild, expect predators. I don't get why people have a hard time with that. How the ecosystem works.

[@durgan5668]

Apparently, you didn't watch the video. It wasn't 'the wild'. Wolves were eliminated, then by law, protected so they'd spread. Just like crime spreads when enforcement is prevented from doing its job of protecting people and property. I happen to like wolves, but I don't expect a rancher to lose his livestock and livelihood because I 'feel' wolves are great.

[@bonzocleach2496]

@@durgan5668 That's why there is a fund to reimburse ranchers for wolf kills. The wolves were "wild." You're not even half as smart as you think you are. Fox News can do that do people.

[@yvonnesanford452]

Why would you leave your family pet outside knowing you have wolves all around?

[@ibobeko4309]

a border collie has no chance against wolves, that is literally throw to the wolves to eat.