Jones has flaws in his resume... and drug use. Khabib has zero flaws... and no cheating allegations. Debate over.
@WTC-19904 жыл бұрын
it's GSP or Khabib
@Boebuscuse4 жыл бұрын
Easy to have zero flaws when you only have 4 title defenses. GSP, Mighty Mouse, Jones, Anderson Silva > Khabib
@Rundvelt4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. This whole debate is stupid.
@abdoukiller15124 жыл бұрын
@@Boebuscuse oh yeah its easy to have zero flows when u only have 29 fights/wins in the hardest devision in the ufc yeah?? If its that easy then lets see u try it tough guy.
@KeithChapman-hr5kx4 жыл бұрын
Names beat, and you fangirl know. It. Jones is a bum imo but hes beat better people. If jones runs thru heavy weight and no more ped fails. Hes the goat
@berzerk69504 жыл бұрын
Jones doesn't train and still beats his opponents, Khabib tells his opponents for months exactly what he's gonna do and still makes it look like they never knew what was coming.
@TyroneBiggums7894 жыл бұрын
Facts
@rezwanislam80614 жыл бұрын
his opponents is 5 feet when he is 6 feet😄..that's why jon doesn’t need training
@berzerk69504 жыл бұрын
@@rezwanislam8061 LOL well I mean they're still in the same weight division, but yes Jon does have a height and reach advantage over most fighters
@rezwanislam80614 жыл бұрын
Same Weight doesn’t matter much bro...if he would've fought all the fights with the same height of opponents as him, he would've lost more than one Rayes fight was very disputed.. But khabib didn’t lost more than maybe 1 or 2 round in his entire 29...but jones lost many of them in his 26..
@berzerk69504 жыл бұрын
@@rezwanislam8061 that is a weird point to argue but I'm not comparing Khabib to be the inferior fighter to Jones here. Khabib easily the goat of his division
@derbistheeternal29474 жыл бұрын
Luke Thomas's breakdown of Khabib's finish of Gaetje in the beginning was great.
@SmearierSonjay4 жыл бұрын
Yeah he’s a great person to listen to if you want to learn more about the sport. Truly great insight.
@TRiXest95YO4 жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@jayceeinvincible4 жыл бұрын
Facts💯
@sheshd4 жыл бұрын
He's breakdowns are ALWAYS on point. So much better listening to him over idiots like Schaub
@andrewsporkelson11854 жыл бұрын
How Schaub is still around amazes me. Dude is propped up by pure hate
@novicelifts51972 жыл бұрын
I agree Jon Jones is by far the greatest example in MMA. Won every fight clean while everyone was in steroids. Takes good care of his wife and children. And even prevented a premature baby from being born by crashing into the lady’s car.. Should win the Nobel Prize in my opinion
@spiscold502 жыл бұрын
🤣‼️
@joserijal75202 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂 the sarcasm IS TOP NOTCH😂😂
@jbolin22482 жыл бұрын
Love it! Lol
@henrychinaski59382 жыл бұрын
Undefeated and undisputed
@BicoLov_IndiL2 жыл бұрын
You tried too hard
@dominickruiz2243 жыл бұрын
Dominick Cruz: “Think Conor is trying to tire Khabib out right now.” Joe Rogan “ I don’t think he’s trying to do anything he just getting smashed.”
@healthywealthy46203 жыл бұрын
Also Rogan: Rousey is a world class striker 😂
@SSJOMI3 жыл бұрын
He can not make Khabib tired because he does not have any grappling or defensive skills. The lack of wrestling background got Conor smashed.
@bobby94583 жыл бұрын
@@healthywealthy4620 I think dom saying that was insinuating Conor couldn’t do anything, he just worded it that way, he’s trying to tire him out cause he doesn’t think he has any other options
@ahorse78843 жыл бұрын
Cruz’s point was just that if Conor is in a position where he is reletively safe (by repetively safe I mean covering up) and he has no where to go, then he might as well just try and tire Khabib out.
@dr.strange19453 жыл бұрын
@@ahorse7884 that doesn't mean he's trying to gas Khabib out, that means he's defending himself. Gasing out is something you do on purpose and I hardly believe that conor put himself into that situation so that Khabib gets tired. That's ridiculous
@general.kenobi3 жыл бұрын
Screw the 29 wins. My man didnt even bleed in his whole career which is absolutely ridiculous!
@general.kenobi3 жыл бұрын
@James Franko every pro fighter does weight cuts and you cant compare khabibs dominance with jones'. Khabib beat up the best of the division like they owed him money lol
@AhiskaTurk963 жыл бұрын
@James Franko He walks around the same weight as Tony does....? And when he cuts water weight it is usually 15 pounds...You guys really love making excuses constantly..Its quite pathetic.
@AhiskaTurk963 жыл бұрын
@James Franko Khabib walks at 190-195 max if he is not training...Tony walks between 185-200.....Explain that buddy...Would love to hear your response 😂
@thedarkknightisrisingup76403 жыл бұрын
@James Franko All the lightweights walk around at middleweight lmao
@AhiskaTurk963 жыл бұрын
@James Franko He hasn’t missed weight since he has gotten a nutritionist......Tony is still walking at 190 mate.....Stop lying ffs its quite pathetic. Khabib said it himself and Javier Mendez stated that Khabib walks at 85-87kg....
@jacobbenham35213 жыл бұрын
I’ve been hurt worse at my job at McDonald’s then Khabib has in his whole ufc career
@unknownass6663 жыл бұрын
*MMA career*
@jacobbenham35213 жыл бұрын
Yea pretty much, he hasn’t ever really be hurt
@JM-cf9xy3 жыл бұрын
You must get your ass kicked a lot at mcdonalds
@makhtar60293 жыл бұрын
@@unknownass666 it’s still UFC
@sayantandas28153 жыл бұрын
@@JM-cf9xy naah he is at the drive-in getting wrong fries thrown at him
@hebt9mlk2 жыл бұрын
So it is basically like this: Jones = what he accomplished Khabib = how he accomplished
@grandpas_brownies87102 жыл бұрын
Bingo
@tunisiandom93182 жыл бұрын
Khabib said it himself ... my legacy is smash. He did not care how many, he cared that he did smash them. and smash he did.
@mansamusa8972 жыл бұрын
True God gifted Talent in John Jones +Better Resume Hard Work and Dedication + Consistent Domination in Khabib well said, Every thing is Subjective
@Adam.Rushing2 жыл бұрын
@@mansamusa897 God Gifted Talent certainly. So that makes it GGT+coke+steroids+??? = JJ! 🤣🤣
@john-ch3en2 жыл бұрын
@@mansamusa897 Yeah God gifted him nice fingers to pull the opponents eyeballs
@fxj___4 жыл бұрын
"didn't train for a fight" would be the worst excuse ever for a professional fighter
@jasonluv20004 жыл бұрын
He has openly admitted that a big part of him not training for fights was to be able to tell himself if he were to lose that it was because he didn’t train
@abdellaali3054 жыл бұрын
Jason Luv he must not train for fights no more then 😂
@fernandoaguero28144 жыл бұрын
But imagine to be able to do that and get away with it!
@dfeliz834 жыл бұрын
Mike tyson knows about that. All the major fights he lost he didnt train for or was under a bad influence whether it be the influence of a other person or a drug. If he ever lost his way... he never would have lost until much later in his career.
@RevenantCheetosx4 жыл бұрын
Nate Diaz and McGregor was so close that Nate got 2m vs his 50k ish usual payouts
@uwotm86344 жыл бұрын
Recency bias is a very good point, I really like what GSP said about the GOATs, when Silva was going through the MW division he was the GOAT, when Jones beat DC in the rematch he was the GOAT, and now that Khabib has retired on top he's the GOAT.
@arturbondarenco21554 жыл бұрын
Everyone and their mother said GSP was Goat when he beat Bisping.
@anomalocaris78694 жыл бұрын
How the fuck can you compare fighters of different weight division
@SumtingWong3434 жыл бұрын
@@anomalocaris7869 you can... just gotta look at the division talent and how the fighter dominated is division or multiple. Khabib as DOMINATED is division but never went up or down. But he probably lost 1 or 2 rounds in is whole career. Jon Jones is probably most accomplished but is character issues keeps him away from the goat debate IMO. Silva in is prime was unstoppable... but kept fighting past is prime and lost a lot since. GSP is the OG goat, the only flaw in is career was that hendricks fight but Hendricks was juiced the fuck up. Hendricks never was the same since USADA. GsP than cameback after a few years and won the championship in a division above... If Jones goes a division above and wins, he will be greatest no doubt
@123arskas4 жыл бұрын
@@anomalocaris7869 Thats what P4P ranking is for. It does a subjective comparison among all weight classes
@mullahgaming94464 жыл бұрын
@@SumtingWong343 you forgot to mention jones did PEDs against old fighters
@sarthakbiswas22014 жыл бұрын
Khabib: My toe might be broken but my mind is not. Respect
@sgorgardr2274 жыл бұрын
It was too weeks before the fight, Geez.
@Shadow-kf2ko4 жыл бұрын
Mctapper : My foot was blame or something like this
@iwantsexseemyvideo334 жыл бұрын
Much
@_don2064 жыл бұрын
@shield&sword peace no his foot was blame or something like this
@recipoldinasty4 жыл бұрын
Cringe
@lemongeezer11573 жыл бұрын
Watching this after Jones became the undisputed champion of the DomesticWeight division
@imbaroud52733 жыл бұрын
yeah, that's so fucked up edit: especially front of his child
@jeremyroberts88223 жыл бұрын
@@imbaroud5273 his child was also the one who asked the security guard to call the police which fucking breaks my heart man.
@TTSrBronson3 жыл бұрын
Oj trying to take the title back
@lemongeezer11573 жыл бұрын
@@imbaroud5273 yeah fam
@Sombra_Azul_3 жыл бұрын
XD
@HowardCharlesUK4 жыл бұрын
The goat is reserved for Artem Lobov. 30 men have tried, only 15 have succeeded.
@Kai_soze4 жыл бұрын
LOL
@oneplus113T4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@aaa84gt4 жыл бұрын
👏
@martinjr75344 жыл бұрын
Dead
@oneplus113T4 жыл бұрын
And with those 15 fighters also his luck was bad otherwise he would have won 💪🏻
@jessiejoy17034 жыл бұрын
Dude what khabib did to Gaethje made him literally look invincible
@ramzichouk40804 жыл бұрын
the only fighter in MMA history to win all his fights without a single scratch on his face from the start to retirement no blood , no injury ,nothing !!! the only one to do it , the true GOAT KHabib the eagle
@amir-bz2he4 жыл бұрын
gaethje did clip khabib tho
@ctc19964 жыл бұрын
Not really lol. Poirier and Eddie Alvarez starched gaethje and it’s a known fact Justin only a white belt in jiu jitsu. Lmfaooo he’s a c+ fighter at best. Conor would have rearranged his facial structure. People gas Justin cuz he beat up Tony who has zero boxing skills pretty much and uses a wing Chung dummy to train. Tony just stood there with no head movement and a granite chin. Justin is alright. He loses to poirier , mcgregor, Khabib , every time .
@jessiejoy17034 жыл бұрын
@@ctc1996 I’m sorry friend if you’re gonna sit there and claim that both Dustin porier (whom I like btw) and Eddie Alvarez are better than Tony Ferguson then ur gonna need some pretty impressive points to back that argument up lol. Ferguson is a one of a kind fighter and most ppl know that. Ppl were psyching up Gaethje because he slaughtered Ferguson, and no one has done that before, so yeah, that’s is something to be impressed about. And even before that all of his fights were always competitive and thrilling to watch honestly. He did lose. But he lost in good fights and learned from them. And finally the icing on top was Gaethjes world class wrestling. Khabib is a wrestler, he had never fought anyone in the UFC who was also a decorated wrestler. That is why the hype for Gaethje was real. And his ass beating from khabib says nothing about Gaethje and everything about khabib. Gaethje didn’t lose because he isn’t good. He lost because khabib is practically indestructible. Gaethje gave him some staggeringly hard hits and khabib brushed them off like it was nothing. And then he outclassed a world class wrestler in seconds. The dude is next fucking level. I don’t I know of anyone who could beat him. But I would’ve loved to see Ferguson get that chance too.
@ctc19964 жыл бұрын
@@jessiejoy1703 “people were hyping Justin bc he slaughtered gaethje which never been done before” um yes it had been done before. Michael Johnson beat Tony already. Listen dude I love Tony but boxing and straight up hand to hand is not his best attributes and that’s no secret. He got dropped by lando venatta and Anthony pettis.
@joegrayii4 жыл бұрын
Jon Jones: “I once hid under the octagon to avoid a PED rest” Also Jon Jones: “I’m the greatest of all time! Khabib is a bum”
@SAM-ru4vx4 жыл бұрын
Also 🔫 NO TRESPASSING 🏡. Dont even try to sell me crap I dont want 🗡🔨⚒⛏ Jon hates door to door salesmen
@eireabu94864 жыл бұрын
@Call me Big dick Rick Jones cheated multiple times dont compare him to Khabib or GSP
@Youtubeguy3684 жыл бұрын
I get you’d had to get a bad joke off but he didn’t say he was avoiding a ped test it was for weed
@sflaw55814 жыл бұрын
@@KZbinguy368 dana said that they don't test for weed...
@iwantsexseemyvideo334 жыл бұрын
Serving
@doml9982 жыл бұрын
How people forget Anderson Silva's reign is really beyond me. The highlight reel ko's over and over vs very good competition AND he wasn't afraid to fight at LHW. Making very good fighters look novice. Not to mention the short notice fight after his prime vs a prime DC who wanted absolutely nothing to do with Silva's standup. Also his recent success in a totally different discipline (boxing) vs a former legitimate prize fighter. Still holds the record for most consecutive title defenses and the manner in which he did it.
@coreygolphenee96332 жыл бұрын
@Amadeus its less damaging then someone like Jon Jones, a large portion of his prime was in the steroid era of MMA
@СлаваРоссия-у7ж2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but Anderson Silva lost his shine as soon as he got knocked out by Weidman then lost again to him then went on to lose to Adesanya, DC, Cannonier, Bisping, Hall & even got popped for steroids after the Diaz fight. Finished his mma career with 11 losses. Khabib is perfect at 29-0, NEVER failed a drug test, NEVER lost a fight!
@dravendfr2 жыл бұрын
@@coreygolphenee9633 Not only that, but Jones and his eye pokes not being called out is absurd.
@AC-mp7cx2 жыл бұрын
yes a religious muslim is the greatest fighter in mma ever
@aka17212 жыл бұрын
Not sure about you but the majority of the mma community is disappointed with him after he popped for steroids. Also it of course makes you think that since most of his dominance was pre-USADA, it's easy to say that he was most probably roided during those times as well. It's also why people forget about GSP as well (the running away from big rig didn't do him any favors either).
@mohammadal-shawish78374 жыл бұрын
ali: what's my name ?! khabib: let's talk now ! legends !
@nosound8194 жыл бұрын
Khabib: send location!
@EagleMMA6194 жыл бұрын
Copy cat
@Marco-er4ql4 жыл бұрын
Khabib “I will smash your boi” Nurmagomedov
@檸檬綠茶-z8r4 жыл бұрын
GOAT 🔥
@davidpinnock8774 жыл бұрын
Some of my favorite one liners
@jali14 жыл бұрын
GOAT is out of the conversation in terms of legacy when you have PED , steroids tarnishing your wins.
@Viwer_____4 жыл бұрын
youre high if you think a majority of athletes arent using PEDs especially today
@jackyoung25764 жыл бұрын
You mean EVERYBODY in the UFc
@Pasicho4 жыл бұрын
@@Viwer_____ a lot of fighters get caught more than once. GSP and Khabib have been found to be clean all throughout. coincidently those 2 is the argument. With Jones an easy negatition is PEDs.
@_honestly_70154 жыл бұрын
Wrong
@aps1s4 жыл бұрын
Khabib is also cool with people getting theyr heads cut of, so yeah therese that
@RedForLife684 жыл бұрын
I really like Luke’s breakdown of how Khabib got to submitting Justin. Very technical breakdown and just went to show how great the finish was 👌
@hdrgb2 жыл бұрын
I love when two knowledgeable wrestling/bjj people get together and break things down piece by piece like they did here.
@bigboss20114 жыл бұрын
One day we’ll tell a story of a wrestling guy from a mountain who beat the world best fighters, stay unbeaten and returned to his village to serve his mother. A story that looks like it was ripped straight out of the pages of a fairytale book, and had it not been for the videos proving it, people would have not believed it.
@NickyTmathew4 жыл бұрын
Except Khabib will come back. Then what happens to your fairytale bro?
@utkarshsarkar8394 жыл бұрын
@@NickyTmathew except that'll make it that much better, coming back to finish his father's dream of 30-0, retire and start his own gyms and be in corner of his friends he trained with, Umar, Islam etc
@ThePurestOnes4 жыл бұрын
Made me shed a tear
@CoyoteGonzalez74 жыл бұрын
@Diane Ghazaryan Conor was well past his prime? he was 30-31 years old...wouldn't call that past his prime
@ivartorr14694 жыл бұрын
bear wrestling? chill out, he wrestle a chained cub that was playing wtih him - stop hyping this fact up
@goaquizah40914 жыл бұрын
"No one as FLAWLESS as KHABIB." Period.
@collingoldfrey97284 жыл бұрын
false
@yungmaac87354 жыл бұрын
Adesanya
@sufiyanrafique2514 жыл бұрын
@@yungmaac8735 i thought he lost to romero
@Cafe-pu9lw4 жыл бұрын
Period!
@davidboros9684 жыл бұрын
Tibau🤔 Jones never miss weight .🤔 Khabib never fight vs BJJ specialist like Tony. Khabib fear to go his own weightclass he need to do abnormal weightcut . Jones still flawless illegal tec is just a joke.
@Jwizza2404 жыл бұрын
There is no chance he lost the first round against Justin...there was an argument up until the take down and sub attempt
@iwantsexseemyvideo334 жыл бұрын
Fun
@brittanym20804 жыл бұрын
Have you seen this clip of Joe’s guest telling him the new studio is awful?! kzbin.info/www/bejne/l32Vq6OhpbysmKM 🔥
@crowns99664 жыл бұрын
I can understand that Justin landed some shots but Khabib put the pressure in that round and also took him down I just dont see how Justin got it, that said I dont know why it matters that much since Khabib finished him with a beautiful triangle
@maxzak53104 жыл бұрын
yeah but 2 judges gave the first round to justin , unbelievable
@stevus234 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@tackmerci9313 Жыл бұрын
I believe that if Khabib had not retired, he would have continued to dominate his division and defeat any fighter who challenged him for many years to come, as he had already proven his abilities in his impressive undefeated record. This was also evident in the recent performance of Islam Makhachev, who showed his strength by defeating Oliveira, a highly hyped fighter at the time.
@marcorosas7614 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, the new contendants for the title, Oliveira or Chandler, would be defetead by khabib.
@bengough6772 Жыл бұрын
Yeah lol people complain he didn't beat enough top guys... Who was left? Charles? After what Islam did I believe Khabib does similar... Tony... Well after gaetjhe Tony doesn't look so good so khabib wins... And then? Chandler? Doubt Khabib woukd have had an issue... So why do we doubt he's one of the greatest
@notpaper-cr6ni Жыл бұрын
Not exactly. While khabib may have had more in him when he retired but not enough to gap jones. Jones has shown a very diverse style and he doesn’t just fight the best strikers. He fights the best. Jon is on a whole different level. In conclusion Jon bones is the best. Khabib could have gotten close if he didn’t retire.
@dannywhite7786 Жыл бұрын
Nah buddy shoulda coulda woulda. I believe Khabib was getting knocked tf out in his next fight by guys who actually present the threat of grappling also. HE DIDNT FIGHT OLIVEIRA CHANDLER OR DARIUSH. You don’t just give him those wins. Ducked Tony his whole career
@jaelonwillis2336 Жыл бұрын
@@bengough6772it really doesnt matter though, he retired early so it is all just speculation. It means as much as me saying “Khabib would have been the greatest gladiator alive if he was Roman”. Meanwhile we can prove Jons, GSP, and Andersons dominance. He just didnt prove himself, especially with those dozens of wins he got in those weird two round russian mma matches against cab drivers and streetsweepers. I like Khabib but he is always going to be the biggest “what if”. And dont sleep on Chandler and Oliveira, those dudes probably have the most threatening atylistic matchups for a wrestler like khabib. Chandler never fails to keep the fight standing with his insane explosive wrestling and striking, and oliveira has proven he can submit just about anyone from anywhere. Khabib is definetely a different beast but I believe they had a better chance than most people let on.
@TheEagleHasLanded4 жыл бұрын
Jon: I sacrificed a lot of blood to reach where I am. Khabib: Exactly my point, I never bled.
@Whobilation4 жыл бұрын
Wat?
@Seattlefan774 жыл бұрын
@@Whobilation Jon Jones = 🥊🥊🤕🏆 Khabib = 🥊🥊😁🏆
@SWard-oe8oj4 жыл бұрын
this is the most retarded thing ive read today
@dub24594 жыл бұрын
When it comes to intoxicated driving Jones is the GOAT.
@tuckermccabe94714 жыл бұрын
Justin said that he was the best at making car crashes. Bro you aint got shit on jon
@wynnefella4 жыл бұрын
Are you intoxicateddd right nowww - gsp
@ovd12214 жыл бұрын
And go on talk about his daughter condition with the policeman 😅
@Doom_Records4 ай бұрын
HAHA HE GOT THAT FROM ME
@mikeletterst98824 жыл бұрын
No recent bias, just facts.. Khabib dominated some of the best mixed martial artists in the sport, in the toughest weight division. He has never tested positive for any performance enhancing drugs. Not only is he one of the most skilled grappler, mixed martial artists, he is an honorable man with respect and dignity.
@lenoxhamese46104 жыл бұрын
The G.O.A.T. with four title defenses? Joke!
@JackRafael4 жыл бұрын
@@lenoxhamese4610 your goat used steroids lol. Debate over
@yourelawyered4 жыл бұрын
What about his defense of Islamist terrorism in France?
@Andrei369y4 жыл бұрын
It's not the toughest weight division, that's some promoting bullshit, the toughest is the heavyweight.
@JackRafael4 жыл бұрын
@@yourelawyered what did he say then?
@Gilbert11jones3 жыл бұрын
“Not a sport on who gets cut most or” it’s the Diaz bros. They would win that😂
@mohamedmoustafa54334 жыл бұрын
You also forgot to say that khabib was THAT dominant against gaethje with a broken foot and his coach said he didn't train for like 3 weeks during camp because he was so sick
@iwantsexseemyvideo334 жыл бұрын
Chubb
@recipoldinasty4 жыл бұрын
Shut up “mohamed” thats fake news
@samtaylor72794 жыл бұрын
@@recipoldinasty dayum son, khabib really in your head huh, livin rent free etc
@joemama82434 жыл бұрын
Khabib isnt even close to being the goat lol 3 tittle defense is nothing he hasn't even surpassed mighty mouse in goat list
@Dewitt-b8n4 жыл бұрын
@@joemama8243 Randy C. 2 division champ. 5 time UFC champ. He's p4p the best imo
@darrensylvester61544 жыл бұрын
Khabib takes a hundred leg kick hes an absolute humble animal that batters everyone
@uphill2484 жыл бұрын
Keep kicking the bear you’re just going to make him madder.
@findingmyway934 жыл бұрын
He has zero stand up game
@NecroxProduction4 жыл бұрын
Habib is not so humble when it comes to islam. When those terrorists beheaded people in France he didn't say one word about it, but he did say that Macron must be punished for saying "bAd WoRds" about islam.
@showkatali48964 жыл бұрын
Zzz Kkk nah that's Nate diaz
@alixus104 жыл бұрын
@@findingmyway93 Khabib has extremely good defensive stand up. His offensive stand up needs work but it is very good for its intended purpose of pushing fighters back and opening up the takedown.
@s.w.68774 жыл бұрын
Not ONCE do these guys bring up the performance enhancers that Jones used. Automatically disqualifies him as the GOAT
@nicholasgordon21584 жыл бұрын
Exactly and still baffled how much they are favouring Jones over Khabib even without roids!
@thetaylorholt4 жыл бұрын
As a baseball purist, you’re right. Wow, that sucks. What drugs did he do? What’s the whole true story?
@wolfracing95044 жыл бұрын
Goat police lmao
@kingjoker81964 жыл бұрын
Yall try to discredit him for doing shit outside the ring not in the ring
@psy91994 жыл бұрын
Everyone use drug these day
@usmanqureshi8941 Жыл бұрын
I'm an extreme MMA Casual, but I swear this is the first sport I've seen where a guy got caught cheating but a large contingent of the fanbase still puts him in the GOAT category. Crazy stuff
@FraudChickn Жыл бұрын
Usada changed rule, he no longer has failed test, Casual.
@Blastizor Жыл бұрын
@@FraudChickn Wrong that's alraedy been disproven. Jon is a cheater, PED's abuser.
@migueljuarez6788 Жыл бұрын
@@FraudChickn He still admitted to purposely and consistently poking people in the eye. Plus, Usada doesn't have a good track record lol
@FraudChickn Жыл бұрын
@@migueljuarez6788 khabib pulled out repeatedly, used IV, never moved up weight, and wanted to fight GSP in lightweight lol.
@migueljuarez6788 Жыл бұрын
@@FraudChickn Why are you talking about Khabib when I'm talking about Jones?
@joshuahaley43674 жыл бұрын
The goat doesn’t hide under the octagon at the gym for 8 hours to avoid a drug test
@MH-fm8fd4 жыл бұрын
@shane Nicholas he used PEDs, aint the better fighter either🤷
@nickg23664 жыл бұрын
@shane Nicholas no, in and out of the ring. A cheater can NEVER be the GOAT.
@JohnDoe-ql9pf4 жыл бұрын
@shane Nicholas does taking Ped matter to you?
@sflaw55814 жыл бұрын
@shane Nicholas if the best fighter can be a cheater and use PEDs, then yea bones can be consider the best.
@steveshikadance4 жыл бұрын
@shane Nicholas Khabib never been cut, bled or been hurt, has dominated while Jones was in close fights with all of Gustafsson, Reyes and Santos
@metinotje4 жыл бұрын
No excuses. Didn't train this that. He should have trained. And even if he did who said he would have done better?
@julius60234 жыл бұрын
Didn't train for Justin, Tony trained for Khabib which fell through numerous times. I truly believe his two weight cuts affected him. Watching that fight I could see that Tony didn't look like himself. Not to take away Justin's win but I think it would've been a different story if he had a full camp and didn't make the stupid decision to cut weight two times.
@carlnickson73534 жыл бұрын
well he trained for their second fight and he finished him in the third round
@jonathanruiz38724 жыл бұрын
Bro did you just hear what you said? “If he did train who said he would’ve done better? That’s got to be the most idiotic thing I’ve heard someone say... the whole point of training is to be at your best... if training has no effect on performance do you think every single other fighter would be putting themselves they that rigorous training? Think about that for a second
@AhsanKhan-xf7vs4 жыл бұрын
Gsp: khabib is the greatest. Khabib: gsp is the greatest Silva: khabib is the greatest Jon: My 15 vs your guy 4.
@hadan87924 жыл бұрын
Says it all. Jon is a bum. A juiced one
@anomalocaris78694 жыл бұрын
Dude you're straight up lying. Silva never said Khabib was the greatest, he said he's his favorite fighter to watch. He LITERALLY said GSP is the greatest.
@raminpcccq4 жыл бұрын
Well John was p4p #1 for a long time and just lost it. Give him a break .
@raees86784 жыл бұрын
@@raminpcccq while on the roids
@chaudhry67694 жыл бұрын
Jon Jones is insecure. Khabib is the G.O.A.T. Hope Khabib vs GSP happens with the blessings of Khabib's mother. InshAllah
@muhammadhashir61363 жыл бұрын
Khabib is not only undefeated but never bled! Almost everyone I know has bled and no one in mma is not only undefeated but has also never bled, no one as far as I know, except Khabib. I have gotten more hurt by myself, tripping or being clumsy, than khabib has in his career.
@civilwarwasaninsidejob74053 жыл бұрын
Never bleeding has nothing to do with whose the greatest of all time. You can tell who all the new age MMA fans are. Most have never watched a fight pre 2015. Khabib is in the conversation, but I'll take GSP's and Jon Jones resumes. Also, both Jones and GSP have moved weight classes and didn't suffer any drop in performance. Jones was banging coke lines and partying 6 nights a week, while still beating greats.
@jollyface59863 жыл бұрын
@@civilwarwasaninsidejob7405 idk how snorting coke makes you the greatest of all time? Like cocaine doesn’t worsen your performance much, what a stupid ass argument
@Matt-cr4vv3 жыл бұрын
@@civilwarwasaninsidejob7405 I get what you're saying. I think recents are judging decision Jon Jones. They don't recall Jons days of nobody having a chance. If Jon had taken things as serious as a Khabib does who even knows what he would've done.
@Matt-cr4vv3 жыл бұрын
@@jollyface5986 Less that is lessens performance but rather he was partying when somebody else would be training. He was/is that good that he can do shit like that and still never truly lose in his career. It makes you wonder what his performances would have been/be if he had a Khabib work ethic.
@hhiippiittyy3 жыл бұрын
Maybe if it was bare knuckle Khabib woulda had bloody fists...
@Daniel-pr2tp4 жыл бұрын
Not Jon Jones, how the hell Joe just overlooks his cheating is BEYOND me Khabib said himself GSP is the GOAT. Can't be the goat with four title fights.
@Light-jo9lp4 жыл бұрын
joe works for ufc.. of course he would act like nothing happened before
@KingLlive4 жыл бұрын
It’s because Jon Jones is the GOAT
@crimsonnite92914 жыл бұрын
@@Light-jo9lp I really don't think Joe needs UFC. He loses money working for them at this point.
@sflaw55814 жыл бұрын
@@KingLlive the GOAT who needs PEDs to perform.
@Daniel-pr2tp4 жыл бұрын
@Abner Cordeiro buddy. He failed it MULTIPLE times.
@SM-pr1qt3 жыл бұрын
That was the best breakdown I heard of Khabib subbing Gaethje
@billwallberg3 жыл бұрын
Khabib seems to be a very honest, humble, champion person. He is like the Tim Tebow of Dagestan. I honor and resect him.
@jrgussngussn70933 жыл бұрын
A train wreck called khabib.
@tonypnts3 жыл бұрын
@Billy Shabir stfu u know what he means
@cloutlordree30573 жыл бұрын
How tf did teebow get in this picture....can I take a wild guess and say voted for trump?
@dfgntzfjgyhmghbndfnghcmsfr10893 жыл бұрын
Who's Tim Tebow?
@seanim68463 жыл бұрын
Tim Tebow? Gtfo of here Tim fucking Tebow?? The audacity of your statement. Wtf is going on here Tebow of Dagestan.
@MarkArandjus3 жыл бұрын
2:22 Good point, Khabib is so good he can actually decide how to win.
@AC-mp7cx2 жыл бұрын
yes a religious muslim is the greatest fighter in mma ever
@aka17212 жыл бұрын
@@AC-mp7cx dude the mma community doesn't care what religion or nationality a fighter has.
@theboredman14502 жыл бұрын
@@AC-mp7cx really and truly, his religion is completely irrelevant in the context of mma
@AC-mp7cx2 жыл бұрын
@@aka1721 alot of racist people do. so they're mad that a Muslim is the goat, of two combat sports boxing and mma
@AC-mp7cx2 жыл бұрын
@@theboredman1450it matters, it drives him in every way
@Thebestofthebesthub4 жыл бұрын
Khabib, never bled, got cut or even bruised over 100 rounds in a stacked divison. Greatest combat fighter of all time.
@CHASINVII4 жыл бұрын
Over 100 rounds?
@HunterJs24 жыл бұрын
@ashish sinha It’s wild to me that you’re willing to be objectively incorrect while so confident.
@piumpusboy4 жыл бұрын
Khabib only fought less than a handful of great fighters let alone only defended his title like 3 times. Jones fought bigger names multiple times and was champion in 2 divisions and for a couple of years in one of them. So this debate is too hard to answer especially now that khabib retired, if khabib comes back and fights say a GSP and wins then that goat title seems more respected. Cejudo is the greatest combat fighter if there was one from the ufc, 2x Olympic champ and then 2 division champ at the same time so it’s kinda hard to argue with that one
@TheZubin664 жыл бұрын
@ashish sinha Casual fan over here 👆🏼
@Slim-Clips4 жыл бұрын
How many excellent fighters did he fight? Barely a handful. Henry Cejudo won an Olympic Gold medal in wrestling and was a simultaneous two-division UFC champion. That’s more impressive.
@ErosExMachina4 жыл бұрын
Not sure how the conversation is Khabib vs Jon Jones, Jon jones failed more drug tests than Khabib lost rounds that should automatically disqualify him from the GOAT. The conversation should be about Khabib vs GSP. Two respectable champions who respect each other, even Khabib himself says GSP is the greatest, GSP returns the respect these two are in the conversation not Jon ''Juicehead'' Jones.
@uwotm86344 жыл бұрын
It's because Jones needs to butt in and try to steal Khabib's shine, he's so salty that someone could possibly be better than him, whereas GSP has been extremely respectful and showed tons of praise to Khabib, and is actually humble enough to admit he's not the GOAT.
@HaloXKing78524 жыл бұрын
Just say that you hate jon jones and move on. Even dana white said it, khabib is P4P #1 but Jones is the GOAT. His resume is far more impressive.
@jakewilliams50184 жыл бұрын
Abdulmanap dead
@ZEND0G4 жыл бұрын
This is the best comment here. JJ is a trash star. Sure he accomplished a lot but nowhere near worth being considered the GOAT. The goat is more than a record. It's as much personality and earned respect as it is anything. Imagine Jordan being popped for all the shit JJ was. JJ needs to fight against his own character to convince weak minded fans that he is the best to ever do it. The real ones know what it was to watch GSP and Khabib truly own their sport and display an otherworldly level of dedication. Jon Jones was blessed with genetics and coming from a sports family and put his weight class on blast for years, no doubt. But his scumbag nature detracts from his legacy and IMO he is tarnished gold. Khabib and GSP are platinum.
@americangangster19114 жыл бұрын
It's because Jon Jones has had 16 world titles wrapped around his waist and Khabib has only had 4. Jon is still undefeated in the UFC, nobody has ever beaten him, he has only disqualified himself and had a no contest because of picograms of a steroid which Jeff novinsky said had no performance enhancing benefit and were caused by a tainted supplement that usada tested and proved that the supplement was tainted and it was consistent with what was found in Jon's body. The steroid excuse is just an excuse and a way for haters to discredit him. Jon's body of work literally dwarfs Khabib's. Khabib is not the first guy to have a 13 fight win streak in the UFC, Anderson Silva did it, GSP did it, Mighty Mouse did it, Tony Ferguson did it ect, and if you want to talk title defenses Ronda Rousey has more title defenses than Khabib, Tito Ortiz has more than Khabib, Chuck Liddell has more than Khabib, Jose Aldo has more, Matt hughes, Tyrone woodley, Renan Barao, Pat Miletich, Frank Shamrock, Amanda Nunes, all of these people have more title defenses than Khabib and at the end of the day that's really what matters, title fights because they're the highest level fight that a person can fight in the UFC.
@dragonblue53 жыл бұрын
KHABIB! He was undefeated, kept his sht together, no drug issues…. Tag dolls everyone
@ayrtoncordeiro38983 жыл бұрын
Jon jones , youngest ever champ , 5 former champs , 1 former double champ, 6 Hall of famers , most title defences , fought 2 fights in one month and one of those fights was for his first title shot . Jones has more title fights then khabib has in the ufc . Khabib has 5 fights in the top 10 , RDA that lost to cowboy in a grappling match , Michael Johnson a known loser same with barboza , Al iaquinta a last minute replacement , a conor out for 2 years and drunk on whiskey . His only legit fights were dustin and justin . His not the goat. Gsp dominated the ww division and after years off the sport went up to middle weight and beat the champ , Henry cejudo best DJ , TJ , Cruz , Marlon and is a double champ , usman beat masvidal twice , colby , tyron woodley, Gilbert burns , RDA , Demian maia , Leon Edwards is on the way to pass khabib if not already same with Israel best vettori , Brunson , kelvin gastelum , whitteker , Yoel and Paulo Costa. . There's amanda nunes the only fighter to defend two belts beat germaine de randamine twice , valentina twice , ronda , Holly Holmes, misha , cyborg. Daniel comier beat Anthony Johnson twice , Gustafsson , Anderson Silva , Dan Henderson , went up in weight best the most successful heavyweight stipe and Derrick lewis .
@googlebanmetoomuch26013 жыл бұрын
Khabib is no doubt the LW 🐐. Jones is the MMA 🐐
@snakehddjj61033 жыл бұрын
Do you not think the names on Khabib’s record tarnished his legacy abit? He was fighting Binman till like 18-0
@SpinningbacKFisT3 жыл бұрын
@@ayrtoncordeiro3898 see my top comment. Jones is a POS and wasn't nearly as dominant as Khabib.
@SpinningbacKFisT3 жыл бұрын
@@ayrtoncordeiro3898 he is a proven cheater. Like my man said. Debate over. Not to mention he's seriously struggled in some fights. Almost got tapped by Vitor, his fights with Reyes and Gus could have gone either way he got beat up badly in both of those against guys that went on to get viciously knocked out afterwards. Khabib has made every opponent look amateur. Also, dude fought some killers in UFC. Tf you talking about? Not to mention how much better of a person he is than Jones. The coke head cheat who drives drunk, plows into pregnant ladies and tries to flee the scene and acts like a delinquent thug towards law enforcement. A proven liar with a narcissist personality. Imo it's not even a debate and this is coming from a guy who ALWAYS sides/cheers the American over Russian fighters. I refuse to deny reality. Khabib is hands down the fkng goat. Point blank period....
@tonygareth2214 жыл бұрын
There are different classes. Khabib and GSP are some of the best ever. AndersonSilva, Jon Jones, might mouse...all greats
@prodded._4 жыл бұрын
see the things is that jon jones is one of the best ever no debate. No matter flaws being mentioned outside of the cage, there was no one that beat him inside of the cage period. You can’t argue that
@illiadmcswain39564 жыл бұрын
@@prodded._ yeah, overall...with all those fights and wins and his natural ability...I would have to give him that. But Khabib is the GOAT of the lightweight though, because of the nature of his wins.
@puccan4794 жыл бұрын
Mighty Mouse is just like kimbo. He shouldn’t be given credit until he fights in a cage against real determined skilled fighters.
@johnyk20104 жыл бұрын
Gsp has a loss against sera and there's arguments to say he won fights that he should of lost and khabib has one style he hasn't got a stand up game. Where gsp,Jones, mighty mouse all have a accomplished a stand up game as well a ground game khabib is one of the most boring fighters to watch you know what his game plan where the others have the element of surprise to there game
@carlosurbina55174 жыл бұрын
@@puccan479 Mighty Mouse beat Henry once, Henry cejudo is one of the most skilled fighters to ever walk in that octagon
@jordanlutz83074 жыл бұрын
Khabib never bled. Never cut. Never bruised. He left unscathed after every single match. No one has ever been that dominant.
@TheRealHerbaSchmurba4 жыл бұрын
But we don’t know if that would’ve been the case had he had more title defenses. His 3 defenses to people with 11-15 defenses isn’t enough.
@trismegistus96234 жыл бұрын
Most of his opponents were SCRUBS. Smh. With the exception of a few.
@chadhumphries14454 жыл бұрын
@Joao Vaz Jones doesn't count do to cheating and constant fails for PEDS.
@trismegistus96234 жыл бұрын
@Melly they could also beat you up lmfaooo my point is jones resume is way better than khabibs. The comparison is not even close. That’s why John is the goat. Its because he beat other goats and did it in a dominant fashion.
@alvinromo4 жыл бұрын
@Joao Vaz they were dominant for longer. But they all, not only lost(except Jon), but got hit plenty and hard. Khabib is undefeated and incredibly dominant. Plus, he's never bled. Crazy! Also, Khabib can keep fighting to have a longer reign as champ. But he's leaving as the Goat. ......I believe Jon lost to Reyes.......
@NotSoRandom_4 жыл бұрын
GSP! Avenged his only 2 losses DOMINANTLY. Cleared out the entire welterweight division, then MOVED UP and won the Middleweight title against Bisping after 4 years out. GOAT.
@o.w.1404 жыл бұрын
Someone had to say it
@turbofister60004 жыл бұрын
Still lost though, Khabib didnt.
@williamswiniuch75274 жыл бұрын
@@turbofister6000 only lost two rounds and never bled
@ffsnick98534 жыл бұрын
@MambaMMA 24.2 GSP was advocating for doping tests for UFC fighters for years before USADA was brought in and even originally wanted much tougher and thorough testing than what USADA offers so how was he “running” from them exactly? Stop trying to slander one of the GOATS for no reason
@roadstar124394 жыл бұрын
Johnny Hendricks fight???
@johnchannell39123 жыл бұрын
Thats what i love about khabib like with mcgregor, he didnt run his mouth. He just went in and proved himself. Beautiful. Sportmanship outclasses any other mentality because you arent going in to just win, you are going in to be strategically intelligent with each move, being all around. You cant come in with one mind mentality and expect to be the best, you have to structure yourself to be all around, heart, soul, physicality and body.
@ThrillerTTV3 жыл бұрын
That all sounds great except he jumped the cage and created one of the biggest black eyes ever in ufc.
@cartoonsinhindi10232 жыл бұрын
@@ThrillerTTV that was super necessary......before that fight....dana and conor planned the bus attack for promotion....watch khabib's interview...he said it was a inside job.... that's why what khabib did after fight was super necessary
@AC-mp7cx2 жыл бұрын
yes a religious muslim is the greatest fighter in mma ever
@coleworld50102 жыл бұрын
@@cartoonsinhindi1023 lol inside job? What a dork. The reason Conor did that was because khabib and his boys jumped one of Conor’s friends and he jumped on a plane with 20 goons the moment he found out. Then the bus attack happened.
@coleworld50102 жыл бұрын
@@AC-mp7cx Jon Jones is not Muslim my friend.
@dmj14194 жыл бұрын
Khabib has never even came close to losing. Jones has. Jones has the better resume but no one has ever dominated the opposition the way Khabib has.
@sangamb84294 жыл бұрын
For that you have to fight upto age of 36 , jon jones is 36 still fighting and he became ufc champion at the age of 19, kjabib would have faced same situation if did fight at the age of 36
@MrShiro824 жыл бұрын
@@sangamb8429 jones is 33 not 36
@ramoniglesiasdiaz31644 жыл бұрын
Jones has been in trouble in arm bar one time Khabib was rocked by michael johnson early Jones 11 title defences khabib 3 Its not even close octagon wise
@sangamb84294 жыл бұрын
@@MrShiro82 my bad😂😂 jj is 33
@MrShiro824 жыл бұрын
@@ramoniglesiasdiaz3164 would hardly call it rocked. and anyway, jones took steroids and has been in trouble more times than khabib. he also has more controversial decisions than khabib
@unknownseizure4 жыл бұрын
"who is the goat in mma" *It's obvious... It's cm punk*
@bazbuzbezbez12654 жыл бұрын
Imma have to disagree with you and say it's Artem Lobov.
@hodgie98814 жыл бұрын
where have you been theres only 1 goat and thats artem!!!!
@realityofficialnflpoet86624 жыл бұрын
Muhammad Ali
@lamambas93904 жыл бұрын
James Toney
@scottiepaterson1924 жыл бұрын
im still waiting on that tom cruise vs bieber fight. thats the mma goat fight
@michigangreen19154 жыл бұрын
Jon Jones used steroids. Case closed, he can’t be considered the greatest because we don’t know what he would have done without steroids.
@mounir98994 жыл бұрын
@Na tu there is drugs that are allowed and and there is that are prohibited
@Wizear114 жыл бұрын
Grain of Salt in Olympic sized swimming pool amount of steroids .. And they don't give you skills. Jon is youngest champ in history clean.
@nauvalfakhri4 жыл бұрын
I believe that does not translate to skills and fight IQ. I believe Jones is still a phenomenal fighter without steroids, let’s see his upcoming fights. Let’s see all of his fights, whether when he is accused of using steroids or not.
@Faiz_Azad-Khan4 жыл бұрын
@Fernando true but give you more power
@The_Bjorn4 жыл бұрын
@@Wizear11 is it even a steroid tho? i really hate the internet for giving some of these people a voice. khabib is no doubt the most dominant right now but khabib has a resume of nobodies. DC, Cejudo and Stipe have a better history for goat status.
@BroHakim708 Жыл бұрын
5:51 Smart insight here by Luke into the situation, he was able to accurately predict the future about Jones' eventual transition to hw and how many would hail Jones as the ud goat if he won his hw fight Fast forward a couple years after this interview and the gane fight takes place, and exactly what he predicted happened, Luke's a smart guy, I definitely respect his mind
@alexpickles66454 жыл бұрын
It’s gotta be khabib. He’s completely dominated EVERYONE in his path and there have been no drug use or drama
@ps95014 жыл бұрын
Khabib has just 3 title defenses against primary strikers. Jon has more damn title fights than Khabib has even fights inside the UFC. Khabib was 15-0 and fought guy with 0-0 record, so his whole pre UFC is extremely padded.
@showkatali48964 жыл бұрын
Neil Old and that fight is ??
@aunmaqsood31294 жыл бұрын
@James Matthews Nah if he dropped to lightweight at 155 definitely not, you high? With peds maybe, but again that's why he ain't the goat. I don't see Messi and Ronaldo needing to use any performance-enhancing drugs to be GOATS, apparently, this is only a MMA thing.
@aunmaqsood31294 жыл бұрын
@James Matthews You can't compare Jones and Khabib. That's why i said at 155 Khabib would beat him, because naturally jones can't really compete at that weight. Khabib at his division has dominated, no one can do it better. Jones also is great at his respective division, no one ever denies that. But he's not the GOAT, he used performance enhanced drugs and was caught. Khabib being a GOAT is debatable, but his fights aren't as one-dimensional as you think buddy. He's barely showed us his other skills, like his back, which he gave a taste of during the Gaethje fight.
@aunmaqsood31294 жыл бұрын
@James Matthews Oh I saw your other comment about Jones dropping to 155 and still beating Khabib, which is utterly stupid. Someone who has been wrestling bears will ever get beaten, haha! You're talking out of your ass here buddy, I was going to agree with you on some points until I realized how much of an idiot you were.
@PantonePapi4 жыл бұрын
Hardest fight Khabib ever had in the UFC was with the scale. He’s the GOAT. Made every fighter look mediocre at best
@mezutzizu4 жыл бұрын
That's the reason he's so much stronger than his opponents. He cuts way too much weight, he should definitely fight at the division above
@afgankidd004 жыл бұрын
@@mezutzizu bad take
@patstaysuckafreeboss80064 жыл бұрын
@@afgankidd00 Terrible take. Regardless I think he could still eat half the WWs
@rayu27943 жыл бұрын
Khabib has not fought enough championship fights in my eyes.
@michaelstollairetbarceo32873 жыл бұрын
Jon Jones 100%, anyone saying otherwise is suffering from recency bias. Staying on top for a decade, and defending as much as jones has done is a totally different game than looking very dominant and getting a few title defenses WHICH NUMEROUS FIGHTERS HAVE ALSO DONE.
@mohamedmourinou82044 жыл бұрын
If Jones if the GOAT of MMA, then Lance Armstrong is the GOAT at cycling.
@clintdegen4 жыл бұрын
but Lance is the GOAT at cycling. The other guys just didn't get caught.
@joshlasky81384 жыл бұрын
he is the best. who else in bicycle racing can you name that is a superstar.
@AhsanKhan-xf7vs4 жыл бұрын
@@clintdegen lol
@SonofAGunFrom4104 жыл бұрын
Is Armstrong NOT the GOAT, though?
@JordansTake354 жыл бұрын
Difference with Armstrong is all of the top 20 guys were juicing as well. Jon is juicing and fighting guys who are clean.
@TheRealJohnMadden3 жыл бұрын
Jones is out of the conversation now, he had his chance to be the GOAT, and decided to cheat. GSP is IMO the GOAT of the UFC w/ Khabib being on his tail.
@ajosh44303 жыл бұрын
JON JONES IS THE GOAT he didn’t even train for some fights and still managed to ko the best in the world out. DONT JUST PUT THE MANS CONS UP THERE U CAN TAKE A GUY WITH A UNDEFEATED RECORD OFF THE GOAT CONVERSATION
@TheRealJohnMadden3 жыл бұрын
@@ajosh4430 if you were proven to be on steroids or drugs during a fight or leading up to a fight, your record is invalid. Who’s to say most of his fights weren’t dosed? Look at TJ Dillashaw, the only reason he had such good endurance in most fights was because of a drug.
@kylleepstein69543 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealJohnMadden Irrelevant to his resume. I hate jon and think peds steal his goat, but anderson popped too he is a goat. Khabib is 13-0 and 3 defenses. Not goat numbers
@OriginalNutta3 жыл бұрын
@@kylleepstein6954what’s worse getting caught for drugs or cleaning out a division and retiring who’s to say JJ wasn’t on drugs during his best performances which invalidates or doubts his whole career but for khabib to never get cut bruised or bleed in 13 ufc fights is craZy and never lose a round that’s goat like behaviour
@daniela.t.thomas143 жыл бұрын
You mean the fighter that rubbed Vaseline mid fight on his body vs a bjj black belt specialist, or retired when usada became mandatory.
@mentalmusclecoach4 жыл бұрын
My question is, why do we crucify guys like Tj Dillashaw and TRT Vitor for PEDs, but so often it gets minimized or avoided in the goat conversation with Jon Jones?
@riptrojans72374 жыл бұрын
Tbf trt vitor had as much juice in him as a caprisun. He's a bit of an outlier.
@Underratedmen4 жыл бұрын
@@riptrojans7237 as soon as USADA got involved Jon got popped. For all we know he’s been juiced to the gills from the beginning.
@Jrock420blam4 жыл бұрын
well i know people hate the chemistry involved but Dillashaw and Vitro were red red red hot while Jon Jones was right at the minimum threshold so if he was using we will never know because it falls withing the tainted supplement realm.
@Underratedmen4 жыл бұрын
@@Jrock420blam not the first time when he popped against DC.
@Jrock420blam4 жыл бұрын
@@Underratedmen yes, specially the first time is the one im referring to. It was classic tainted supplement, the 2nd time of micro levels is what draws suspicion because he should have known better if it was tainted coke or supplements and he still popped
@heartofvanillaice74434 жыл бұрын
This is the most detailed break down I’ve ever heard
@mohammedhussain67494 жыл бұрын
These two are MMA experts and watch various other martial arts. Not trolls online who jump the hottest talent bandwagon
@njm56424 жыл бұрын
The left out a pretty important detail, which is Jon’s PED scandals
@iwantsexseemyvideo15124 жыл бұрын
❤️🙃
@iwantsexseemyvideo334 жыл бұрын
Buggy
@hopsie99834 жыл бұрын
Drug use is enough to take him off the list. Did u guys not remember the whole pictogram issues?
@milleristhegoat64184 жыл бұрын
You realize a picogram is a grain of salt in an Olympic sized swimming pool...
@saurabhkale40704 жыл бұрын
You are right
@midgetporn97354 жыл бұрын
@@milleristhegoat6418 he was popped before that dude. Jones was popped many times before the picogram shit.
@thephilosopher71734 жыл бұрын
@@milleristhegoat6418 Sadly he could literally have a single atom in his system and ppl will think it makes him superman lol.
@johnkerr83794 жыл бұрын
Amen
@USMColdies2 жыл бұрын
I love Khabib, he beats great fighters but Jon has beat legends & undisputed future hall of famers or guys with great records up til their fight. The run up before his title fight against Shogun, not counting his journeyman fights, his opponents with the worst records were Vera @11-4, Hamill @ 6-2, Bader 12-0, Bonnar 12-4. After those, he tore thru the legends...
@ElNiNjA2462 жыл бұрын
i just dont get how his name can come up at all when hes a proven cheat, doesnt that put into question his whole career? to me it makes his entire career null and void
@zeflr122 Жыл бұрын
@@ElNiNjA246 hes not a proven cheat
@toptiertech7291 Жыл бұрын
@@ElNiNjA246 well how many fights did he test positive for?
@ABeastGaming Жыл бұрын
@@toptiertech7291 and on top of that new usada rules clear him. and also everyone is on gear some just dont get caught.. and even if you say that.. USADA's New rules would have cleared him.. He also beat vitor belfort who was on steroids
@omarhasan03 Жыл бұрын
@@ABeastGamingit's awful how everyone defends a known cheater. At any rate, Khabib was unquestionably not on anything. So that would make his accomplishments even more impressive considering his opposition, according to you, was most likely on stuff. I can't take Jones seriously because he cheated. And I can't understand why even before the new USADA rules, it STILL wasn't brought up. The media is protecting Jones and that's not okay.
@jn20504 жыл бұрын
No drugs,no cuts, no contests, 1 round and a close one, no car accident, The 🐐
@Cts_994 жыл бұрын
Missed weight, pull out, injury prone. Fought a bum to win his first title
@afgankidd004 жыл бұрын
@@Cts_99 yet that "bum" did better than Conor, Dustin or Gaethje hmm
@Idontknownw3 жыл бұрын
@@afgankidd00 no? The only rounds khabib lost were against conor and Justin
@afgankidd003 жыл бұрын
@@Idontknownw Conor won that round on the judges score cards yes that's a fact but rewatch that round again. The amount of times conor cheated and didn't get called out for it is ridiculous. As far as that Justin round goes, c'mon, are we really holding these judges scorecards as the end all be all? How many ridiculous decisions have we seen by these judges. Rewatch Khabib v. Justin round 1 again and tell me if you truly believe Justin won the round
@Idontknownw3 жыл бұрын
@@afgankidd00 tf you mean cheated? Khabib does steroids if anyone cheats he does
@shababchy4 жыл бұрын
The fact that neither one of them brought up the PED record on Jon surprises me. Even Jon's earlier victories are now questionable since USADA wasn't in the picture than
@iwantsexseemyvideo15124 жыл бұрын
🛑🟥
@BenjaminG274 жыл бұрын
You think none of Jones opponents were juiced when they fought Jones ? Wht abt vitor and Jones smashes him nobody argues that anderson Silva was one of the greatest middle weights of all time and he popped when he beat nick just say you hate Jones any non bias person knows Jones accomplishments dwarfs khabib it’s not a think about question
@shababchy4 жыл бұрын
@@BenjaminG27 Nobody is calling Silva the goat either because of the same shit. We don't know if Jones opponents took PED either, EVEN if they did it don't matter. The fact remains Jon did and got caught multiple times once USADA came into picture. I don't hate Jon. He clearly has the best resume that I don't think anyone will ever top. But it's not a clean resume. So he needs to step out of the goat picture.
@palestineadesanya19964 жыл бұрын
@Jay Theboss yup Jon Jones is GOAT- Greatest Of Abusing Turinabol.
@mlgpubeboyx98484 жыл бұрын
Tainted supplement
@Bambino_604 жыл бұрын
This is a joke. Normagamedov isn’t from this planet. He’s the best ever.
@hazza774 жыл бұрын
I’d 100% agree if he just had more title defences
@fruit-ios20984 жыл бұрын
No lol
@hazza774 жыл бұрын
@James Matthews I think jones is the goat Definately the best all round fighter ever imo. Khabib doesn’t have many title defences but you have to admit the guys he was fighting are pretty much the best of the best and he made it look easy
@machiavelliq87584 жыл бұрын
@@hazza77 Come on guy, best of the best?No.His biggest name was Connor McGreggor while Jones had names like Evans, Machida, Sonnen, Cormier etc.
@hazza774 жыл бұрын
@@machiavelliq8758 I didn’t say they were better than jones opponents but out of the current fighters in the ufc who are active I think lightweight is the most stacked. Come on he dominated gathje porier mcgregor barboza. Like I said before I still believe jones is the goat but I can see an argument for khabib especially if he had more title defences
@mohammedasif76673 жыл бұрын
As a person and a fighter in both avenues KHABIBs a role model and real GOAT in true sense
@silkyjohnson7599 Жыл бұрын
😂
@kishorerocky6099 Жыл бұрын
Muslim love muslim
@STiergoofball Жыл бұрын
Name says you are a Muslim Opinion biased
@notpaper-cr6ni Жыл бұрын
Is that cope for him not being the goat in mma?
@MNSTRShams Жыл бұрын
@kishorerocky6099 undont have to be Muslim to see Khabib is a better role model then Jones
@mohamedalahmadani51744 жыл бұрын
"Jones can take time off and still beat world-class athletes, who does that?!" I think the answer you're looking for comes in picograms, my guy.
@vibe91554 жыл бұрын
That is unrealistic for the average ufc fighter, along with even a good one. Jon is the GOAT
@GEICO3164 жыл бұрын
@@vibe9155 without roids jones aint nothing chill cheaters never win he just cant accept he love that coco and roids get real jones
@abhayy22974 жыл бұрын
Gsp can do that.
@TheInfamousThey3054 жыл бұрын
@@vibe9155 facts. I love seeing them act like salt enhancements are superpowers 😂
@lucarossi94534 жыл бұрын
Gsp did lol
@randallnadeau16914 жыл бұрын
Everytime Jones takes a piss test, his legacy gets worse
@knucklehead47874 жыл бұрын
John Jones on Steroids and they talk so much.
@alexfiggsyn42014 жыл бұрын
He’s been off drugs for years and could quite literally wipe anyone in the ufc. Say what u want ab weight class difference, it matters. Sure pound for pound is important, but khabib couldn’t handle anyone over 200. Jon Jones is the ideal body size and could easily beat lower weights and is still strong enough and long enough to wipe heavyweights too. Class dismissed
@randallnadeau16914 жыл бұрын
Lost interest in the ufc because of cheaters like Jones. I used to rent all the fights, his actions are obviously condoned by upcoming, ain't watched a fight in 3 years now
@rp66994 жыл бұрын
@@alexfiggsyn4201 gtfo mister class dismissed
@alexfiggsyn42014 жыл бұрын
@@rp6699 good one Ravi. “gtfo.” That got me.
@Adam.Rushing3 жыл бұрын
A man trains to fight with the help of his father. His mother never really likes it, but accepts it because it's their way. Father tells son, you'll retire at 30-0. Two fights short of that goal, father dies. Mother tells son she doesn't want him fighting without his father around. Son fights one last fight because he had given his word to his father he would. Then he retires because he gave his mother his word he would. Just one fight short of a goal he had been working towards for his entire career. That ladies and gentlemen, that is a MAN. Show me one MMA fighter anywhere that has that kind of reverence for others, including his God. They don't exist. No, he will not return; not unless his mother wishes it. He will not return because he is a man of his word and that word was given. He cannot be bought. Khabib is exactly what martial artists used to aspire to be.
@batman_diaries2 жыл бұрын
There are better people in the fighting world. Pacman is one. He changed everything for his homeland. Brought so much change and a great man outside the ring. Just coz he is a good son does not make him great. He's an amazing warrior. But it rests at that.
@kingsweattv24652 жыл бұрын
Well said.... But unfortunately, you've mentioned NOTHING that actually matters when it comes to being pugilist/Martial artist!! His respect or lack thereof for his or anybody else god.. Utterly irrelevant
@raseanbenton14562 жыл бұрын
@William jon jones you meant
@stewartcattanach72242 жыл бұрын
Remember when he missed weight and pulled out of fights, lack of professionalism not a man, pathetic
@Adam.Rushing2 жыл бұрын
@@batman_diaries I agree that just because someone is good in one area of their life (i.e. being a good son), it does not make them a great human being. I also agree that Manny is an amazing person, in and out of the ring. However, I disagree with the implication that Khabib is not - if that is what you were implying...I may have misunderstood you there. Khabib has done a lot for his home town, specifically helping the local kids and the schools...in fact, he and Pacman have a lot in common with their philanthropy choices. Though, I don't know how much he "has changed" Dagestan as a whole...I honestly donj't keep up with any celeb's personal life that much...I just know what I see/read. God bless bud.
@Ahmad.Raihan2.03 жыл бұрын
Khabib never losed a round never bleed undisputed undefeated champion of the world 🌎 khabib the eagle 🦅
@dfeliz834 жыл бұрын
Khabib hasn't been busted for steroid use. He trumps jones immediately
@dfeliz834 жыл бұрын
Having that been said. I would also say that if he never used peds in the first place i would be choosing him over khabib. Jones has more in the bag. But at the end of the day... he did that shit. So khabib it is.... I will also say I think gsp could still beat khabib at his current age.
@alexfiggsyn42014 жыл бұрын
Jon Jones could beat anyone in the ufc and he’s been off ped for years. Simple.
@dfeliz834 жыл бұрын
@@alexfiggsyn4201 is that why he got fucked up by Reyes? How he got a decision on that is ludacris... he CLEARLY lost.
@dfeliz834 жыл бұрын
@Ghost Pero lol jones got beaten. He didnt do anything major to Reyes Reyes was hitting g this guy with clean shots the entire fight. Just cuz jon didnt get dominated on the ground doesnt mean he didnt lose that fight. Wasnt nearly as close as you make it seem. It was a 5 round fight no?? Jones wins one round to Reyes 4? That's getting dominated if u ask me.
@bb61494 жыл бұрын
@@dfeliz83 lol "fucked up" by reyes, no he wasn't 😂
@raniayoussef55993 жыл бұрын
"God Almighty loves that if one of you does a job, that he should perfect it" - Muhammed PBUH Khabib manifested this in his career so far.
@abdurrahmanabubakir36443 жыл бұрын
👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
@Luna8b3 жыл бұрын
@@raniayoussef5599 there r books that say she was 15 and others mention she was even 17. Her actual age when the marriage was consummated is unknown. All you’re busy talking about is the age or her being betrothed. Which isn’t the same at all.
@raniayoussef55993 жыл бұрын
@@Luna8b You are absolutely correct.
@bentayga24093 жыл бұрын
@@raniayoussef5599 his whole career is haram because you can't strike someones face
@raniayoussef55993 жыл бұрын
@@bentayga2409 According to you?
@DEADWANTED2474 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how this is a discussion. HE'S A PROVEN CHEAT ! Jones and his fans don't seem to realise how bad that is. He shouldn't even be allowed in the sport let alone be the regarded as one of the best.
@7gangstaboy4 жыл бұрын
Factssss Usada started testing 2015 January so all those “great fights” took place before that and god knows how much Jones juiced...
@penthousebutton20904 жыл бұрын
@beefcake502 if it’s only once but it’s twice.
4 жыл бұрын
@@7gangstaboy awwee it’s okay Jon is the greatest of all time Man U people get sooo mad cuz black people are always the best or greatest of all time Jon jones, Floyd mayweather, mike Tyson and we know ur racism hurts ur heart that u wanna commit suicide it’s okay. It’s proven Africans are the first babies to walk and talk, it’s proven African babies have the highest iq it’s okay don’t cry
@mr.ineedit114 жыл бұрын
All these ppl juice more then 80 percent
@neenk79744 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@justmythoughts27862 жыл бұрын
Both are great but the way khabib choked out Connor was hilarious 😆
@netero6751 Жыл бұрын
Conor pieced him up a bit in round three though
@mirzadagrinch69 Жыл бұрын
With soft and weak punches that were supposedly called strikes. Ask any mma expert they will say that khabib should’ve won that round
@TheCj5651 Жыл бұрын
@@mirzadagrinch69 I guess your an expert huh
@amado4249 Жыл бұрын
Chocked?
@Inbox-qu7ud4 жыл бұрын
If Muhammad Ali took PEDs, would we call him GOAT? No. So how does JJ even get on the list?
@canadagoose85434 жыл бұрын
There was no drug testing during that era so I wouldn't be surprised if everybody was taking shit.
@bb61494 жыл бұрын
@aaaaaaaaaaaa1111a Ow idk shut up
@hayderimran74 жыл бұрын
because hes "one of their own" - Christian , american- so he gets a pass..typical Hypocrisy
@icanaja81924 жыл бұрын
@@samuelzins5089 the one that takes PED and it's okay is just pro body building nothing else
@mickdelroy30214 жыл бұрын
You can have the greater number of title defences, that gives you the best record but, by pissing hot your automatically out of any greatest ever or P4P talk.
@zairem42074 жыл бұрын
Why is John even in the conversation? Everyone knows he used performance drugs - he’s disqualified. Period.
@username63334 жыл бұрын
Everyone at the top level is on some sort of PEDs. Don't think people won't do everything possible when millions and millions of dollars are on the line.
@josephpalma7434 жыл бұрын
@Ruben Feneser so angry but funny!
@mikej93254 жыл бұрын
@@username6333 nah DC didn’t take shit
@brdolivadar4 жыл бұрын
Because Joe Rogan is Jones' little fangirl
@mosamoa67194 жыл бұрын
Cocaine is performance enhancing drugs😂
@pinscreen68514 жыл бұрын
Jones? Ppppft The debate should be Khabib or GSP
@robertpaulson36454 жыл бұрын
Khabib bcuz of his perfect score! GSP is great but lost 2 times, revenged ofcourse but still lost.
@skrrtskrrt33814 жыл бұрын
@@robertpaulson3645 9 title defenses stupid. Khabib has four. Jones has 11 title defenses. Mighty Mouse also has 11 CONSECUTIVE title defences. The idea that a guy who has defended his belt three times compares to guys who have far more title defences is absurd.
@jameszbierski3914 жыл бұрын
@@skrrtskrrt3381 💯 mate. These new fans are idiots
@admiralgeneralaladeen60464 жыл бұрын
@@skrrtskrrt3381 the idea that a ped abuser is even in the goat conversation is even more absurd. Understand?
@user-sx6rm9uu7q4 жыл бұрын
@@skrrtskrrt3381 its Khasuals mate, they always say random shet
@rturae3 жыл бұрын
Never tested positive for PEDs ✔ Has fewer controversies ✔ Has fewer questionable victories✔ It's simple, Khabib is the GOAT
@m17-042 жыл бұрын
We talk in the octogone wtf you saying thing than is not in the octogone
@PeterGriffingigity4 жыл бұрын
*Justin:* "I'm gonna break his leg till he can't walk" *Khabib the entire fight:* "Let's walk now"
@BigRamen4 жыл бұрын
Justin: im gonna take khabibs soul, im gonna show him how to bleed, im gonna tko him bla bla bla Khabib: look whos talking
@sheikhfahad24364 жыл бұрын
Hahaha... The best ever
@PeterGriffingigity4 жыл бұрын
@@sheikhfahad2436 Thanks
@aldyhermawan96284 жыл бұрын
🤣
@JackPeach-Animation4 жыл бұрын
Guy he's interviewing seems cool.
@thecasual10114 жыл бұрын
Luke Thomas, got his own show on KZbin and does really good fight breakdowns . Worth the watch
@JohnSmith-im8qt4 жыл бұрын
His guest list is a huge part of his recipe for success. Don't get me wrong Joe's fun to listen to, but I choose which ones to listen to based entirely on the guest
@nathbubb73044 жыл бұрын
Luke Thomas knows his MMA things 👍
@jamesaliesharami22934 жыл бұрын
Literally probably thee most boring human in the world
@JJ-Toreddie4 жыл бұрын
On here he seems cool. On his own shows not so much but he's getting better
@iMaajid4 жыл бұрын
Luke Thomas should have a commentary gig with the UFC. He knows his onions.
@iwantsexseemyvideo15124 жыл бұрын
❤️🌶️
@obitriceforlife57714 жыл бұрын
Honestly the dude knows his MMA unlike many others.
@TRiXest95YO4 жыл бұрын
Agree brotha!
@sheshd4 жыл бұрын
Breakdowns vs commentary ain't exactly the same but yes his insight is exceptional. I'd love to see some collabs between him and Hardy
@marcgodfrey3314 жыл бұрын
He knows his shit, but it's never gonna happen. He criticizes the pay structure in the UFC so Dana automatically dislikes him
@JimmyHuynhdesign2 жыл бұрын
Jones is obviously highly skilled but I think what helped him gain a huge advantage over almost all opponents was his body frame. A combination of his height and possessing one of the longest reach in UFC. Even with the same weight, he's naturally much bigger than most people he faced. Jones snuggled most with opponents of similar body types like Dominick and Gus. Would be very interesting to see how he performs at heavyweight.
@Jordidwaard2 жыл бұрын
I honestly feel like jones' performance at heavyweight will decide this conversation. If he actually manages to outclass either stipe or ngannou he will have achieved too much.
@Amaarc77 Жыл бұрын
@@Jordidwaard baddest man on the planet now 🐐
@Jordidwaard Жыл бұрын
@@Amaarc77 Baddest man of all time yessir
@ABeastGaming Жыл бұрын
@@Jordidwaard him beating ciryl gane in under 1 round is absolutely amazing.. Jones stopped fighting for 3 years moved up a weight class. fought someone who is probably bigger and a bit stronger than him. and still beat him so easily.. to the point that people are saying ciryl took a dive
@Jordidwaard Жыл бұрын
@@ABeastGaming and yet people still won’t acknowledge his greatness. Its insane.
@OddsJet3 жыл бұрын
Khabib - but have you seen how Khabib reacted when GSP enters the room? That was respect.
@AC-mp7cx2 жыл бұрын
yes a religious muslim is the greatest fighter in mma ever
@Bobby_69302 жыл бұрын
@@AC-mp7cx Bruh stop spamming the same comment repeatedly 🤣
@AC-mp7cx2 жыл бұрын
@@Bobby_6930 no
@AC-mp7cx2 жыл бұрын
@@Bobby_6930 its true
@Bobby_69302 жыл бұрын
@@AC-mp7cx Not really, stop the cap. Also you're obviously a fanboy, saying dumb things. Your opinion doesn't matter bud, religion has nothing to do with fighting
@raz56144 жыл бұрын
I would say Khabib
@Peace-qm2sp4 жыл бұрын
doesn't have enough resume to be claimed the greatest of ALL time, no argument
@MrRorySteel4 жыл бұрын
Khabib got beat off of Gleison Tibau
@khalilrehman64664 жыл бұрын
Public knows who's the GOAT, Joe Jones has been barking around the bleak street, khabib isn't only the bravest and greatest fighter but also a sweet and humble too
@yogeshramburn66914 жыл бұрын
Khabib has only 4 championship fights. GSP is the goat. GSP is a 2 division champ, never missed weight,he was the ultimate professional in and out of the octagon.
@samuelcockerham6794 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say he's the bravest. He's was a massive lightweight, always cut heaps of weight and never fought as his natural size.
@imamsetiadi91624 жыл бұрын
@@yogeshramburn6691 But he lose twice and khabib zero
@khalilrehman64664 жыл бұрын
@@yogeshramburn6691 but he was also a cheater don't forget about this LMFAO
@thisisboxingproductions68944 жыл бұрын
@@imamsetiadi9162 and he beat them in the rematch so..
@Prophitforprofit3 жыл бұрын
GSP vs Khabib would be the most sold show ever for a while.
@jayu36974 жыл бұрын
Luke: My head is spinning. Joe while he’s pouring him more: That’s alright.
@crowns99664 жыл бұрын
@TheRealist 811 lmaoo
@DazedMMJ874 жыл бұрын
Lmfaooooooo
@DmDaPDm4 жыл бұрын
Lool Joes that bad influence friend you gotta watch out for 😂
@raymondchan3184 жыл бұрын
im dedd... 😂😂😂
@seangentri88784 жыл бұрын
Chael Sonnen never lost a round so... Edit: Jesus Christ it’s been one hour and 42 comments. Chiiiiiillll. Or at least check out my guitar videos 😏😏🤘
@sharp43534 жыл бұрын
@@mikewong3180 no he didn’t, sometimes the other guy got it wrong and beat him in a alternative universe
@FastFoodMikey4 жыл бұрын
Undisputed, undefeated
@AkamapD4 жыл бұрын
He doesnt lose rounds, he loses the fight silva vs sonnen 1 👀💀
@Maartun4 жыл бұрын
Khamzat would smesh Chael
@brycemc71794 жыл бұрын
“Chael Sonnen UFC Middleweight Champion. Best of all time. And before time was even created”
@deathstroke3343 жыл бұрын
That was an incredible breakdown of the submission by Luke. Very good idea.
@anshumkathuria45873 жыл бұрын
Joe doesn't take into account the fact that during the savage phase, Jon was enhanced
@kowsarahmed77823 жыл бұрын
There is no way you win an MMA fight without training camp and doing coke unless, of course, you're juiced up.
@petermisberg7323 жыл бұрын
@@kowsarahmed7782 do you know That from your own mma experience?
@heyokah.25194 жыл бұрын
"Jon would take time off, wouldn't train and still come and beat everybody, it's amazing..." PED's my friend, PED's.
@tomob57154 жыл бұрын
You wildly exaggerate the effects of PEDs...wildly!!
@stevest86754 жыл бұрын
Fact. Jones is a steroid goat. Lmao
@khabibmma93824 жыл бұрын
@Michael Robertson Jones is a PED cheat. PEDS are called enhancement drugs because they enhance your performance, and If you are milli-seconds faster than your opponent thats a great unfair advantage in a fight.
@khabibmma93824 жыл бұрын
@Michael RobertsonThat's a strawman's argument. No one is saying he has no talent. But It will never be known if he would have achieved what he has achieved without PEDS. Especially that his performance was awful after USADA. So there is a huge asterisk to his career.
@heyokah.25194 жыл бұрын
@Michael Robertson well since USADA came and he got caught couple of times, suddenly his performances are getting worse and worse. Losing rounds, getting bashed, even losing fights (Santos and Reyes). I wonder what might be the reason? 🤔
@asdsaksa4 жыл бұрын
people ignoring the eye poking that he does in most of his close fights
@dusty63454 жыл бұрын
Eye poking, knee kicks, and most importantly, STEROIDS. Anyone who says PEDs don’t assist in mma needs to try them.
@AverageJak4 жыл бұрын
@@dusty6345 are knee kick illegal? seen loads of guys do it in the ufc..
@ToasterDsG4 жыл бұрын
@@AverageJak They're not. Some mma promotions don't allow them though.
@dusty63454 жыл бұрын
@@AverageJak nope, I did not say they were illegal, I am just making the point against him being the GOAT.
@williamcowell18894 жыл бұрын
GOATS don’t hide under the Octagon for 8 hours to avoid a drug test from USADA. Just sayin.
@pierre-44 жыл бұрын
They retire and come back like GSP
@clampgodej47884 жыл бұрын
Wrong. UFC 182: He first tested positive for benzoylecgonine which is the primary metabolite of cocaine before ufc 182 which is not on Usada’s banned substance list. He then got tested again right before the fight and the cocaine was out of his system because he did it way before the fight. UFC 200: Jones tested positive for 2 banned substances, clomiphene and letrozole and was pulled from the event. Jones maintained his innocence, claiming that he was the victim of a contaminated product that he believed to be Cialis, which was later INDEPENDENTLY OBTAINED, TESTED, AND FOUND TO BE CONTAMINATED BY USADA. On November 7, 2016, it was announced that Jones was issued a 1-year suspension by USADA following his arbitration hearing, though the panel concluded that Jones did not take the banned substances INTENTIONALLY, and was NOT a drug cheat. UFC 214: Jones tested positive for turinabol and was stripped of the title and suspended. He claimed once again that he did not intentionally take steroids and because of the findings of how little of the drug there was in his system and the fact that it didn’t help his athletic performance, it was believed to have been injusted from a “tainted supplement” and the CEO of Usada said "The independent arbitrator found that Jon Jones was NOT INTENTIONALLY cheating in this case, and while we thought 18-months was the appropriate sanction given the other circumstances of the case, we respect the arbitrator's decision and believe that justice was served. This case is another strong reminder that athletes need to be extremely cautious about the products and supplements they use to ensure they are free of prohibited substances." Jones also took a lie detector test with the FBI about if he intentionally took steroids and PASSED. UFC 232 and on: Jones had to enroll into the VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Association) testing program, thus making him the first UFC fighter to be signed to both USADA and VADA testing programs simultaneously. Drug tests administered at UFC 232 found an ultra trace amount of turinabol, which doctors attributed to a long-term "pulsing effect" of the M3 metabolite detected in 2017. CSAC did not take disciplinary action against Jones as the medical experts stated that there was no evidence that Jones had RE-ADMINISTERED a banned substance and no performance-enhancing benefits were gained. The Cage Story: Jones did admit to hiding under the cage at Jackson Wink MMA back in the day, but he wasn’t hiding from USADA because of steroids, he was hiding from the NSAC (Nevada State Athletic Commission) for marijuana because they DO in fact test for marijuana, hence the reason Nick Diaz originally got banned from the sport for 5 years. If people actually did their research, they would know Jon Jones is not a cheater. The scientists proved it every time. Ppl can be salty all they want, but facts don’t care about feelings and the facts say Jones is the GOAT and it’s not even close. Jon has the most title wins (15), hardest competition beaten (6 UFC Champions), he’s the youngest UFC champ ever (23), and he’s undefeated. Put some respect on his name.
@williamcowell18894 жыл бұрын
@@clampgodej4788 Haha Im not trusting the guy who hit a pregnant woman in his car and fled the scene to tell the truth.
@Paul-nm6yh Жыл бұрын
Who is this guy and why have I never seen him before. So knowledgeable. Joe has that network. Seems like every friend and acquaintance this guy has is adding value to his life. Wish I had this ability to choose my friends so wisely. Respect.
@maximejobin4 жыл бұрын
"I'm not impressed by that conversation..." - GSP
@jafar16154 жыл бұрын
lmaoaoaoaoa
@trevorsabatine174 жыл бұрын
Gsp is the only person able to be in the GOAT conversation. To be in the conversation 1] You have to have never been CAUGHT using PED's (Jones & Sylvia are eliminated) 2] You have to have won belts in 2 separate weight division's. If Khabib chose to go to WW and fight Marty and won, then Khabob would be the clear GOAT as it would be the largest weight\division gap. But he retired, eliminating him from the conversation.
@levirognejensen17454 жыл бұрын
The GOAT status is like the stock market
@ked44 жыл бұрын
Everyone: Jones! Khabib! Silva! Fedor! GSP: Am I a joke to you?
@kauskaus72174 жыл бұрын
His resume doesn't compare. And he wasn't dominant the way khabib and jbj were.
@bharathvarsh18014 жыл бұрын
@@kauskaus7217 lol what?
@muradyboy9344 жыл бұрын
What khabib beat bums most of his career his only key victories are rda Justin Dustin and conor, gsp beat guys way more elite then those guys
@Seattlefan774 жыл бұрын
GSP had his face rearranged vs Kendricks. And had a couple of very bad losses, yeah he "avenged" them but still those two losses he was dominated. Jon Jones and khabib don't have that issue
@Seattlefan774 жыл бұрын
@@muradyboy934 right. Let's pretend the lightweight division wasn't the most stacked division right when Khabib was arriving in the UFC. He's just that much better than everyone else. Gaethje defeated a fighter that was on a 12-fight win streak and Khabib made him look like an amateur. Just say you don't like him personally
@PeterGriffingigity4 жыл бұрын
"I'm impressed by your performance" -George St Pierre to Khabib
@edmontonlivermoore49354 жыл бұрын
GSP has nightmares about the time he said he wasn't impressed
@JACKYBWOII4 жыл бұрын
@@edmontonlivermoore4935 u mean he has wet dreams about those times... considering he won his next Hughes fight after saying that
@webb79034 жыл бұрын
George is a true champion and gives credit when credit is due, he does not try to steal the lime light [like jon jones] or say something like what about me or look what I did.
@edmontonlivermoore49354 жыл бұрын
@@JACKYBWOII HAHAHAHAHA BRO XD
@zohir60003 жыл бұрын
A decent and humble person who left his place clean, not like some clowns
@xeftones4 жыл бұрын
Lance Armstrong is the Greatest cyclist ever - Joe Rogan & Luke Thomas.
@martijnoerlemans7654 жыл бұрын
Greatest American cyclist equals best in the world right?
@userunknown37614 жыл бұрын
@@martijnoerlemans765 No scumbag drug cheat is the best at everything
@jackswanson17254 жыл бұрын
Have you seen this clip of Alex Jones making fun of the new studio?! kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmbUqqGFlpKggdE 😂
@martijnoerlemans7654 жыл бұрын
@@userunknown3761 yeah of course, I was being sarcastic..
@martijnoerlemans7654 жыл бұрын
yeah I understand, many Americans tho actually see Armstrong as the best cyclist ever because America=world for them.
@DEADWANTED2474 жыл бұрын
Khabib is the GOAT. Flawless 29-0 record. Dominant in every fight. Hardly ever lost a round in 29 fights. No PEDs. Would've had more title defences if he was given a chance at the title way earlier like he deserved.
@brodelnaz4 жыл бұрын
He only has like 7 ufc fights... the dude beat up on a bunch of nobodies for 22 fights. 3 title defenses doesnt make you the goat. Gsp and fedor are 1 and 2
@bigballer70264 жыл бұрын
Stop it, no one knows 20/29 of the opponents Khabib fought, and Khabibs only fought 5 top 5 fighters. Gaethje, Dustin, Conor, Rda, and Michael Johnson are his only notable wins. I think Khabib is lucky to be considered top 5 lowkey
@raymon0764 жыл бұрын
@@bigballer7026 I couldn’t agree more with u, finally someone with sense, thank you!
@hihi26674 жыл бұрын
@@raymon076 i would never consider him the best anyway unless he went up in weight and got the belt there. If he went up and instantly beat usman, or somehow beat adesanya, I would straight up call him the greatest ever but he wont and wouldn't because he knows he prob couldn't do it. hence not the GOAT. GSP on the other could and did do it, hence him having a strong argument for GOAT.
@Joy-boy-joy4 жыл бұрын
He's phenomenal, but he is taking advantage of the weight classes as well. And he just hasn't done enough at this level. GSP and Jones have.
@MIlyas-hv7ic4 жыл бұрын
Khabib, he never cheat, did steroids, or had a close fight.
@JoshLavian4 жыл бұрын
The Tibeau fight was insanely close. The announcers were predicting it would be a loss for him just before the decision
@Slim-Clips4 жыл бұрын
He also only fought a handful of excellent fighters...
@robertbeal13074 жыл бұрын
@ACULITE You act as if everyone Jones fought was as clean as Bisping.
@kvbvl72854 жыл бұрын
No one cares. 14 is still > 4.
@Mikey420isTaken4 жыл бұрын
Khabib made a career out of fight janitors lol
@brucedoyle4055 Жыл бұрын
Jon jones is without a doubt a Great Fighter, but as he said Khabib was just flawless... i mean i just recently had my Khabib Full Story dose were i rewatched his start and end of his fighting carrer and there is no other word as Flawless... he is simply a different Animal, he fought against the Top Fighters and made it look like it was nothing! He dominated every round, he is respectful and humble. Befor Khabib i always hated it when Fighters started Grappling and Submissions, but seeing him do it, was like a work of Art, just like his Punches and Kicks and now i wish for that and hope to see another artist at work. Khabib was for me the first Fighter who was perfectly balanced and was not only great in all aspects, it also looked great, from Grappling to Hand to Feet Combat, Great intuition, huge Stamina and endurance, i mean he never sat down after each round against Mcregor, he escaped a Guillotine choke just to Submission Poirier seconds after...thats crazy! Khabib is still the current Goat for me until someone else comes who exceeds those feats, but right now, to me that person has yet to come.
@notpaper-cr6ni Жыл бұрын
Jones has done it at heavyweight as well. He’s shown to be dominant on his feet, on the ground, and he did this against dudes jacked up on steroids and he wasn’t always at his best. Jones just does to much.
@demarcuslewis141711 ай бұрын
No way you complimented khabibs striking dude was pretty bad at that. He had a padded record in his early stage of his career and he only fought like 4 good opponents all being strikers. “That person is yet to come” Jon been there bruh
@brucedoyle405511 ай бұрын
What i forget to mention on why Khabib still is the Goat and has a Flawless carrer to me, is his Character itself, he has the Character and Charisma of a Champion, he has the mentality and discipline to be a Champion, his humbleness and his wisdom, he is a man focus and sheer will, he is a true Role model for the People. I base a Champion a Goat in all their aspects, and if that person can make me start thinking after he said something wise. Thats something i never had of any ufc fighter and jones is far from it, they all lets say simple. When you become a Goat you become a role model, and all other fighters are the same when it comes to discipline and lifestyle, they were normal Guys like you and me doing Party and relax after a Fight, but not Khabib, and i admire extraordinary people.
@jonwolf1ify4 жыл бұрын
Why is everyone having this conversation without talking about GSP??
@kalebchase29164 жыл бұрын
Lol
@kalebchase29164 жыл бұрын
Don’t ever gsp is 3rd or 4th but no where near theese two level
@PapaDragon2824 жыл бұрын
@@kalebchase2916 I mean Khabib isn't even top 5. At least Jones, Fedor, Silva Johnson and GSP are above him.
@mwolf98684 жыл бұрын
Gsp is wack
@giannisstellas7974 жыл бұрын
@@PapaDragon282 dude are you on lsd whilst writing that comment?