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[@Influence417]

Cute designs, but they're inevitably going to be neglected as NIJI continues to prioritize the 8 boys they give a shit about.

[@Gakusangi]

Which is why it'll be important to give the ones that deserve it some actual attention. If they do leave, then they'll have that much more going for them too.

[@zayd4078]

"tHeRe iS nO fAvOrItIsM iN nIjIsAnJi. 🤪🤪" -Faux Akruelma, 2024

[@Nematoda4ever]

to be honest, all Niji's avatar designs is cute and cool. they already got top tier avatar but their management is shit.

[@ShakeMilkyWay1]

At least they gave them a name, not like TTT

[@wntrwolfx]

@@Nematoda4ever too bad the cost usually comes out of the talents' pockets (if documents are to be believed)

[@erikcorr3261]

Remember Everyone: NO HATE-WATCHING. NO HARASSMENT OF THE NEW PEOPLE. NO “Trying to Save them” or acting “for their own good.” Just don’t watch, that’s the best way to continue showing how we feel about this company. Let’s just wish them good luck, and hope they have their PLs ready for anything that could arise. EDIT: [DELETED] (UPDATE: The alleged PL claims he is NOT Ryoma, and to be fair we did jump the gun making such an assumption on one voice line (not saying it cannot still be true))

[@Influence417]

Loyalists, however...

[@itsglada383]

Wish people like Flipsie would make announcements like this, they have no reason to be battered by fans over shit they weren't apart of

[@asaasahina896]

This is the way.

[@highwindknight]

Hate watchers are an incredibly small minority that's mostly blown up as an attempt to proclaim victory from people who want to think that Hate Watchers are significant, like with Velma Season 2. The reality of Velma season 2 was that it was already part of the deal with Season 1's productionn and the actual reports of viewership showed that Velma Season 1 was a horrendous financial failure with horrendous viewership making the Hate Watch narrative fall apart. The marketing team tried to put spins on it proclaiming that Velma Season 1 was the most watched new animated show of the season, but the reality was that it was the only animated show at that time that was released, so it was a race against nobody. The actual charts that follows the money and follows the consumption of the content showed abysmal numbers but they had already cemented a deal for two seasons right off the bat. The reality is that they make up a tiny fraction of people who are extremely vocal like any fringe extremist groups. The most toxic and brain dead type of anti will hate watch solely to harass and even send supas just to harass, or will just be there to silently report the yabs to other antis in forums or in clips, and you can tell from the CCV of some hated people, these folks probably number in the single digits, or in the two digits at the very best.. The majority of people just either: A) Watch someone else react or report about the content they want to make fun of or are curious about, because actually listening in is multiple hours long of investment is not a worthy time investment to which anyone who's already in Vtubing likely already has their hands full with a dozen different VTubers they love to watch. or B) Just don't consume any of the content to begin with including the news on them because they just naturally filter to what they like to watch. Most people aren't like the terminally online crowd with the level of obsession to scour through hundreds of hours of content or years of past online posts to try to stir the pot. Really, you'll find more people campaigning about not hate watching than you will find actual hate watchers.

[@depressoespresso6522]

Honestly if someone joins knowingly to Niji it should be expected of them to be horrible people as well, so mo point saving

[@itsglada383]

Suprised people still apply, hope they dont get screwed over

[@syrusthefemboy]

Most likely they will get pushed over and screwed over

[@katlyn3248]

They already got hired, its over.

[@firework8140]

man it sucks because I know they will not get support on either the viewer nor management side

[@vyxxer]

Either the truly delusional or desperate I think.

[@MisterSleep1123]

​@@vyxxerSomeone said that they might be hired before the selen fiasco

[@MildlyOCD]

I'm hoping that these new talents invested in a lawyer before signing the contract.

[@julioce0389]

I hope so too, kind of a... strange choice trying to join niji despite everything they have done, but meh, lets just wish them luck, even if their choice was fucked up

[@latinalover26]

@julioce0389 so your judging them because you think they made bad chocies?

[@user-dv6iw9ri7t]

​​@@latinalover26bro have you not been paying attention to everything niji related? The tax fraud the bullying the backstabbing, trying to cover up. They did make a bad decision to join niji lol. Anyone in their right mind can see the red flags after everything that's happened

[@ThatchNetherfold]

@@latinalover26 Read properly, he said it was a strange choice, bad or not is up to one's speculation. You're the one saying its bad.

[@alexalam8364]

​@@julioce0389too early to judge. We dont even know their contract terms and conditions. It could differ for this new wave.

[@41dyn]

I have negative feelings about this new wave. What is Nijisanji thinking releasing a new wave without fixing their company structure?

[@erikcorr3261]

They’ve just been doing what they always have. Unfortunately (and that’s an understatement).

[@Influence417]

Neglected. They will be neglected.

[@latinalover26]

​@@Influence417the gen or the company?

[@dhimmyjazzy696]

​@@latinalover26the gen by the company, and the company by the viewers

[@twistedf_]

3 new shitty voice packs and poorly cropped screenshot t-shirt merch.

[@KiritoZero2]

Strange I believe I heard a green parrot screaming "ACCELERATE"

[@AmericanMetalhead100]

No rest for the schizoid Colombian Parrot...

[@updateguypls1088]

Funny, I heard SEND IN ANOTHER MEAT WAVE

[@edboi2154]

SELL SELL SELL SELL

[@exo-gladius4805]

OMG, I CAN HEAR IT AS WELL LOL

[@Radiance_Buer]

"RIKU WE'RE OUT OF AMMUNITION" "SEND IN THE NEXT WAVE"

[@aisukururimu7515]

The debut date feels a bit awkward for me tho... 24 - 25 May? The same day Bobon's gonna be officially graduated from Niji? Seriously? I know the IDs aren't big enough in Niji to be even considered as an influential presence there, but come on... the guy's not even holding a graduation stream, and Niji is putting new debuts within his official graduation date? Talk about dancing on top of someone's grave...😔

[@ThatchNetherfold]

Holy... but well, not the first time they've disrespected ex or soon-to-be ex-livers. Much more that they've disrespected Hyte before.

[@Weekend_Papi]

And some Indonesian kurosanji fans still support this black company They treat the ID talent like trash for long time

[@adamyami2902]

Its also at the same time of the Wrestlemania tournament.

[@ThatchNetherfold]

@@adamyami2902 OMG... how many levels of disrespect can they throw?

[@Loomine.]

Well then again it’s two different teams so that may be why?

[@imprudentdev1503]

Doesn't the previous generation only have an average of 100k subs? What a kick in the face to TTT. Niji did nothing for them, actually worsened their career through the drama, and then just forgot about them. Like I don't even care about this new generation, I just feel pitty for TTT.

[@maryam-nusa]

Just checked, Claude and Vivi have a tiny bit over 100k and kunai is still under. Those are bad numbers for niji especially since two/three gens before they would hit 100k within the first month. Feel bad for the new wave, Krisis and TTT

[@michaelhall736]

I don't pity them. They knew what they were getting into.

[@diputston]

It's very sad because they mostlikely​l didn't even know what they are getting into

[@VileCarnival]

@@diputston when it comes to this sort of thing, there's no way that they didn't know considering how much nijiEN keeps digging the hole. i guess we'll have to wait and see how they behave to get an actual opinion on them

[@immortal_shrooms6757]

@@michaelhall736the contracts musta been from last year

[@gatorsforthewin2067]

Seeing the new wave just kinda made me tired honestly but I hope they don't get screwed over

[@merfyn4838]

They will. But it is what it is.

[@gatorsforthewin2067]

Yeah all we can do is wait and see

[@Takomuchii-Cookie.Dep.Intern]

The possibility is ever close to zero... But it aint zero, I guess? Lmao

[@MsRabbitGi]

It's like the marvel of vtubers. Having so many makes it less special

[@TheAyanamiRei]

I would have liked them had they been with a different Agency. I think they'll be extra popular, considering how Fetishy they seem.

[@FabricioSka]

well, someone is already preparing a document on reddit with supposed evidence about one of the new talents who was supposedly a scammer in his past life... they haven't even debuted yet and you can already see drama on the horizon

[@MikeB-us5cg]

If true, all of their careers, not just the guilty party, are already dead on arrival.

[@latinalover26]

​@@MikeB-us5cgdon't believe anything until we see proof

[@leonmystique9372]

And suddenly one of the potential talents are about to head in the clique if this is true.

[@sbatou87]

If it's true, it's more dirt on Kurosanji's coffin.

[@ThatchNetherfold]

@@latinalover26 That's why he said IF. Only if that's the case, but what if it is indeed?

[@NeuronActivation]

This is the problem with Niji, always pushing new talents quickly. Plus theres also the fact that their reputation have been forever tainted. I sure hope these new talents know what they're getting themselves into.

[@ICCraider]

The wave probably would've come even sooner if some -absolute CHADS- indie vtubers didn't ungraduate themselves immediately after the Selene drama lol.

[@AbysswalkerOftheEchoes-qn9pg]

They STILL follow the shotgun approach method. And this, does NOT bode well for them. I Hope they’ll be fine.

[@mirza2698]

In the case of NIJISANJI, Quantity > Quality.

[@TheAyanamiRei]

TBF it seems like this one will be more popular than the last, if only because more fetishy

[@warior7120]

Is 6 month not long enough??

[@sbatou87]

It's almost as if they didn't promote TTT, and instead, pumped out a new group because TTT wasn't performing as well to Kurosanji's expectations. ...oh wait.

[@ainzer2903]

And there's Bobon Graduation stream next day

[@kanzaki2672]

the hell is TTT anyway

[@sbatou87]

@@kanzaki2672 I believe it was a mixed-gender group which came out in Oct. 2023. Hell, Niji didn't even give the group an official name. It also includes Claude "You can always f*cking ask" Clawmark.

[@tabagoromi4949]

@@kanzaki2672The only TTT I know is tenkuu trap tower made by pekora and aqua in minecraft

[@acecream8568]

ACCELERATE!!

[@KhoiNguyen-xv4jd]

Ahh….Ryoma voice…sounds like the guy from NightTime Audios….and he just put up an apology video about scamming people….I guess he going to be Niji next top earner lol

[@reiangossling6395]

The next Vox Akuma and Hex Haywire

[@DearestSheepMC]

What? Did they also scam people in their pl

[@Influence417]

​@@reiangossling6395 It's always those Corpse Husband-sounding ones that sell, except unlike Corpse himself; Vox is a manipulative dickhead who doesn't mind making his viewers uncomfortable. And Hex is likely a psycho judging how he drowned a pet of someone, or something like that. I dunno, I just don't like him.

[@tazwar5324]

​@@DearestSheepMC yeah

[@EndellionQT]

@@DearestSheepMC Allegedly, to be fair I want to see some receipts first.

[@RecoveringLoLAddict]

Reminder, they might have signed with Niji before the drama and they might have been postponed thanks to it. And then they are contractually obligated not to mention it.

[@michaelhall736]

Suuuure.

[@Soulferno]

So when do you think that actually is? Because Niji has had drama for a very long time even before the last half year. Many people should've been well aware of Niji's declining rep

[@tilting_cat3344]

​@@Soulfernosome contract can be like you have to work in this company for 2 years before you get out tho maybe they signed dat 1 before the incidents?

[@ketsunoAna123]

nah, their first audition are the acting one which is canceled, they are the new one.

[@RusticRonnie]

The guy is a known scammer, I would not be surprised if the others are also. He lost his audience and is trying to get a new one… probably to scam them

[@KeebeThePlush]

I don’t know how to feel given everything that has happened

[@bjielol]

i’m happy for them but also oh no

[@MisterUmbra2kXx]

@@bjielol TIME FOR A SHARK ATTACK!

[@jitteryjared5338]

Best way to protest Niji is to not watch at all

[@011egis]

I'll never stop watching Niji

[@jitteryjared5338]

@@011egis cringe

[@xplayfan21]

this khyo saying he will watch is just odd.

[@SuperBrainSandwich]

At this point, I'm convinced that the only people who would be willing to work for that crap company are people willing to backstab those around them, so I'm not terribly interested.

[@ArcanistShion]

Knowing from the graduates that Niji is essentially a battlefield doesn’t make this any easier.

[@michaelhall736]

Well, I heard one of them is a notorious scammer so they fit right in at Kurosanji.

[@frieda8745]

I feel like that's not exactly fair to most of the talents. But okay.

[@michaelhall736]

@@frieda8745 Yeah, it's totally fair considering how they've behaved.

[@Tyyin.]

Seems like you need to be a back stabbed and manipulator to join them

[@citizenspaghetti]

Nightime Audio live streaming during Ryuoma's debut. Antis will believe anything the internet tells them LMAO

[@isaaccarder3369]

everyone gonna fill chat what "RUN WHILE YOU CAN"

[@ainzer2903]

😂😂😂 LoL😂😂

[@ainzer2903]

I can totally see it happen it😂 oh no😂

[@hi123452008]

By now, it's _far_ too late for that. They've signed the contract, they aren't leaving unless they pay a ton of money they don't have.

[@kopiko91021]

ain't no way they signed up not knowing that, they know what they're in to lmao

[@xplayfan21]

@@kopiko91021 tells me they are just as shitty as niji.

[@DayoDusk]

And then you also got clippers like me who actively refuse to clip any Niji content along with others. Niji gonna find out that having clippers is a very big aspect of VTubers growing and not having their support is going to be a determent along with there audience just being in the Niji bubble.

[@ArcanistShion]

Thank you clippers for your service! 🙏

[@RaisonLychi]

😂 Is that why niji clips don't show up on the algorithm for me anymore.

[@Marleigh_san]

Square ch. Still pumping niji stuff even if it doesn't pass 100k views these days..

[@UnqSoleil_VT]

@@RaisonLychimy recommended used to be full of Niji clips now I see maybe 2-3 clips of Niji in a week and even then it only has around 800-1.5k views. I remember when clips had like 5k-10k and even 50k views on it.

[@oak..]

i see years old niji clips, no new ones

[@hazamax2139]

Sadly my position on this shit is no interaction with Niji. Not any talent, no clips, no nothing. I hope the best for them but considering what numbers Niji has been pulling, things are going to be tough.

[@gadman85]

So... will their debut streams be in subscriber only mode? lol. "Only those who have been subscribed for a week or more may chat".

[@gerdanbombales]

Man Riku is so rich that he can play IRL gatcha to lucky draw their own Gura at the same time they did dirty the ones who has the most potential.

[@ainzer2903]

EN and JP talents alike are treated the same way by Riku

[@muhammadamarzarkafar2216]

ah yes, that person probably give fantastic answer on how to beat gawr gura in vtuber scene

[@ainzer2903]

I wonder if anyone still remember Salome now

[@senny-]

​@@ainzer2903I still watch her and she's still entertaining. But she's definitely been forgotten by Niji

[@koneksilemot9049]

IMO, selen is their "gura". Just look doki now, she everywhere and everybody know her. But they keep sabotage her in everyway

[@zrevival3818]

Yeah... this generates a lot of mixed feelings. On one hand, despite everything that has happened, this is still a huge chance for these three Vtubers to make a name for themselves in a big spotlight. And I sincerely wish them the best of luck. On the other hand, it would be the absolute peak of naivete if they tackle this new journey with a mindset of "nothing has happened". I really hope they approach it in a way where they are aware of Nijisanji's current state and they aim to use the company as a platform instead of joining the "happy family" bs. In any case, I look forward to their debuts!

[@konaqua122]

I have a feeling that this would only work if there one of them that is like Rosemi level of innocence and wholesome. Otherwise, the hate would overpower them. It may just be me but I never heard anything bad with Rosemi Lovelock during the Zaion incident and during the Doki incident. But again, it just might be me.

[@ghoulbuster1]

Gotta milk niji dry of money then dip.

[@Loomine.]

@@konaqua122 What about Petra? I heard a lot of people still like her

[@konaqua122]

@@Loomine. I am not arguing about about who likes who. I am talking only about the influence. I think even other livers from niji is ALWAYS saying that Rosemi is pure, and if EVERY liver there is saying this, there should be a psychological effect on their viewers since they hear that a lot of times. So, if there's someone in this three who would have that level of acceptance from both the livers and the community, it 'might' be successful.

[@JaviFandelMorales]

​@@konaqua122That was my thought as well. Simply put, quite a few livers had their dirty laundry aired out during the Selen fallout. Thankfully, Rosemi wasn't one of them (and I say this as a Rosebud). If she had anything, it would have surfaced by now or then, yet nothing came of it for her unlike some others. If they've done something bad in their past, it will catch up to them no matter how much they try to hide it and it will happen when they least expect it. This applies to everyone, not just anyone in NijiEN who has a dark past they want nobody to know about.

[@devilcookie9924]

their chats and like/dislikes ratio will be so interesting.

[@ainzer2903]

I wonder if anyone open bet on that ratio lmao

[@MrNorker77]

Well, at least they won't be losing subs

[@Azraelson]

not even a few hours later and there's already been a lot exposed about one of the new debuts, we're looking at a Vox 2.0

[@slayerking88]

It seems that the guy in the new niji en group is already in some controversies due to his past life. Some of his former mods are working on dropping a document with evidence talking about how her scammed thousands of dollars from his community and mod team. The guy use to do boyfriend experience asmr videos on KZbin.

[@ariswiryanta7038]

"You could've just ask" And somehow no one asking or like some ex-liver said she asked but no one answer. So....

[@MikeB-us5cg]

These poor souls. If Kurosanji doesn't destroy them, the public will. Their reputations are already stained just by being part of the company. It doesn't matter if they're innocent or good people, they're already tainted in the eyes of the more unforgiving public. Dead on arrival careers.

[@DarkFenix2k5]

Rest assured they're not good people, good people don't watch a company drive two people to attempt suicide then think "yeah this seems like the right place for me".

[@TenOfTwenty]

@@DarkFenix2k5 Dude, they probably were hired before the Selen shitshow. Even then, your statement is wildly dumb. If your logic was applied universally, every government employee and corporate worker across the world, would be bad people.

[@FaceFish9]

they propably thought "Hey i'll get a boost in my viewership cause i'm currently streaming for 30-100 people so if they get even 500-1000 with Niji thats a big upgrade both in viewership and monetary, and if/when they leave Niji depending on how amicably they do leave their viewership might skyrocket, maybe they are banking on that possibility.

[@lostpotata5567]

​@@DarkFenix2k5or they could sign the contract before everything begin to fall apart and sinking, and now they bind to the contract

[@michaelhall736]

​@@FaceFish9I still wouldn't considering what Selen and Zaion went through.

[@donovanhadley2209]

On the one hand, they all seem interesting. On the other hand, it's hard to like anything from Nijisanji after all of the situations and drama from them.

[@ThatchNetherfold]

Its not even a stretch to say that they're desperate.

[@raimyonlinewarrior236]

I hope they will be fine. So far they're just new people. I will give them a shot but i probably won't watch loyally.

[@StuffedUp124]

I think the girls are fine for now but the guy's past life has already been revealed by people matching the voices, he scammed his community of like 3k and his last video is a black screen apology

[@alexvp9344]

Gura then announcing that she will stream almost after this is so funny lol

[@blueknight0714]

Cover: New Niji EN Gen? Send out the Shaaaaaaaark 🦈

[@ed_cmntonly]

Yagoo's probably waiting for when a big Niji thing happens so he can send out Gura to ratio them She already ratio'd the COLORS stream by playing content warning lol

[@ainzer2903]

Btw what the heck with one of these new talents' PL and the scam? I can literally smell the red flag if its turns out to be true

[@FaceFish9]

which one and whats the past life account? i'm interested.

[@localanime_otaku]

Which one? So I can make sure to not support them if it’s true?

[@galathon]

The guy

[@StuffedUp124]

@@FaceFish9 The guy, look up "NightTime Audio," last video is literally a black screen apology video lol

[@NeroZeroes]

they debut new group already? when the latest group barely stabilize?

[@tinaranathania]

EXACTLY

[@firework8140]

this group got better treatment than TTT because they get an official gen name from the company (yes, TTT is something the members came up with themselves), so the backlash did something, of course best is they didnt debut new talents and focus on developing talents inside the company

[@ShinoriDelfrim]

⁠@@firework8140Wait TTT doesn’t even have an official name?!? I- What- Huh?!? 😀

[@Influence417]

@@firework8140 Considering no external party wants to collab with them after what they did to Doki, no wave songs.

[@latinalover26]

​@Influence417 we saw hololive/stars en and indies collab with them

[@Zenocide]

6:07 Maybe letting the talents have their Play Button Awards would be a start...

[@kmel3588]

Im sorry but if you sign up for niji then thats on you when you have a bad time. Just the fact that you joined an organization that will offer you 0 support, i mean just look at TTT and how dirty they got treated.

[@squalleonkeneddyheart4191]

Not when you are someone like the upcoming Male talent who is reported to be an ASMR RP KZbinr who scammed his fans and his mods worth Thousands of dollars. Yeah it's definitely on the nose with this one lol

[@firework8140]

@@squalleonkeneddyheart4191 wait so one of the new talent is a scammer?

[@user-dv6iw9ri7t]

Someone on reddit is getting a doc prepared with evidence apparently so we just gotta wait and see

[@cornz7126]

@@firework8140 Allegedly

[@ainzer2903]

TTT forgotten just like Salome, Niji ex-ID and ex-KR

[@aljoshilagan3204]

The moment they sign in. They're already in debt

[@ebowles181]

Based on what I know to be in a typical (not all) vtuber wave, the generally ideal size seams to be about 4-5. So it is possible there were 1-2 others that quietly left already.

[@amethonys2798]

Niji has been doing 3 at a time for awhile now so I doubt it

[@paxvesania2008]

I kid you not, Yagoo deployed tactical shark again kekw.

[@GlassesnMouthplates]

Little shorky girl has her Loligami Requiem cover MV ready to be unleashed when the time calls.

[@torondin]

I can't help but imagine YAGOO as being like the late Bogdanoffs. "They about to debut? *Deploy ze Tactical Shark* "

[@Mati-kun]

Hmmm interesting, Nijisanji debuts new wave during Guras come back. This is probably coincidental though, since Gura tweeted an hour or two before me writing this comment.

[@parlamrl]

Wow...shark is back!

[@syroncoda]

a vox clone, a girl in a cage... which has its whole own sus undertones , and a mint clone? this the best they can do?

[@KeebeThePlush]

This can only go so well….

[@rai-jinmeizhu9633]

Waiting for a green Parrot to notice this.

[@johndoh9395]

NEW DISCOVERY IN THE NIJI CONTENT MINES! I REPEAT, NEW DISCOVERY IN THE NIJI CONTENT MINES! Parrot: "Ah hell, I'm not getting out of here"

[@DegenWeeb]

The only advice I would give them is not to trust anyone(management) and not to assume everyone is your friend. Use the company as a stepping stone to get experience, a dedicated fanbase, and get out at the first sign of serious trouble if possible. That being said, I wish them all the luck in the world. They're gonna need it.

[@Daigon95]

Apparently skeletons for Ryoma is already popping up of him scamming money from his fanbase and got a few of his moderators into a few thousand dollars in debt. In his "previous life" channel when he did boyfriend rp asmr content. Already off to a "good start" with this new gen. yeesh

[@chrispalmer6804]

he'll fit perfectly in at kurosanji lmao

[@naty8646]

I don't really know what to think, not to say that they're bad people but I don't really trust someone willing to join kurosanji after all that happened, either way I won't be supporting any of them

[@syrusthefemboy]

Its sad that the art looks genuinely good, just very much wasted

[@firework8140]

probably they are desperate yknow. Maybe in their past they had only crumbs of fame, so they are willing to take the chances

[@cornz7126]

@@firework8140 I completely agree. It takes a while to make a successful career out of indie vtubing. Some people that I know have been streaming for upwards of 6 years while averaging 20 viewers max. Joining any corporation, whether it be a small company or big, allows a chance of entertaining a bigger audience. Also, these models seem expensive. It's definitely not something an indie vtuber can afford, so I would say that Niji "might" be improving.

[@DarkFenix2k5]

Right? Existing vtubers sticking it out in spite of what happens, well, one could argue they're tacitly endorsing Niji's disgusting conduct. It's morally dubious. But people who sign up afterwards? They watched Niji drive two people to attempt suicide, then they thought "yeah, this company is great, I want to be a part of that". Calling them bad people would be a vast understatement. The sort of psychopathic vulture who would join such a company is not someone I'd ever want to know. Hey, maybe it's more of the extended clique of those bullying subhuman parasites already in the company, birds of a feather and such.

[@ThatchNetherfold]

@@cornz7126 The only problem left with Niji viewers now is that the only fans remaining there are either NijiSisters who just love to nitpick and stretching topics into racism or slurring, or simply internet trolls.

[@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933]

I know people are saying to not watch them, and I'm not watching Ryoma because he's accused of being a scammer on his PL KZbin account. So call be a Nijisister all you want, but I'll be watching Twisty & Klara only. Edit: Also, I feel so bad for TTT (Minus Claude). Niji has just left Kunai & Victoria to rot away so that the spotlight can be on the new gen. and not any new drama.

[@liladoodle]

Same here man, Twisty & Klara seem like the only ones I'll be interested in.

[@datgrart]

Wait, I thought I knew his PL bc a certain someone on 'hiatus'. I guess I'm wrong ._.

[@disappearingfrog2126]

Why minus Claude?

[@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933]

@@disappearingfrog2126 You know why, the "Can't we just f*cking ask?" regarding the Silver Play Button.

[@disappearingfrog2126]

@@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933 I have no idea what you are talking about. Imma look it up Edit: He definitely has a L take on that. Bro is coping HARD🤣 the way he was talking about how he would be nothing without the company definitely explains why he thinks that tho. He doesn’t see that the company would be nothing without the talents. I kinda feel bad that he doesn’t realize that all of his and others hard work deserve to be rewarded and acknowledged.

[@dgcoolstar7579]

At this point what do i even say😭

[@tsukishiamaterchicuddlebun4186]

I mean what can I say except, you're welcome

[@Influence417]

​@@tsukishiamaterchicuddlebun4186 Maui? The hell are you doing here?

[@tsukishiamaterchicuddlebun4186]

@@Influence417 avoiding paying child support to Moana, ya know the usual.

[@jaysonilao631]

Just say you like potato chips

[@squalleonkeneddyheart4191]

Welp not even half a day and we have reports of the male talents PL tied to some big scam worth thpusands of dollars. His channel is still up with a shitty apology as its last video after he then resurface in NijiEN

[@eh-269]

Bruh Fr?

[@syrusthefemboy]

Wait who

[@squalleonkeneddyheart4191]

@@eh-269 yeah fr

[@squalleonkeneddyheart4191]

@@eh-269 he is an ASMR RP KZbinr who's last video was an apology video about his scam before he resurfaces again in this coming NijiEN wave

[@syrusthefemboy]

@@squalleonkeneddyheart4191 could i ask what his name was just curious

[@leonmystique9372]

Potential is there, but if the managing team still remains shitty as they did in the past The impact of this new debut wave shall be... Say it with me people: "NEGLIGIBLE." Edit: Apparently Ryoma (I think) is rumored to have a bad track record. OH BOY, HE WOULD FIT WELL IN THE CLIQUE IF IT WERE TRUE!

[@Captain_Rena_Akagawa]

Denauth? you mean an anagram for Haunted SEND IN ANOTHER MEAT WAVE

[@sonofbelz]

This is the first time I've ever been genuinely worried for a new wave. Not because I think they will suck or anything, but i'm worried for the health, safety, and working conditions for the new talents.

[@DearestSheepMC]

I was doing the math, TTT includes Claude: 109k Victoria: 103k Kunai: 75.5k Add it all, and you get: 287.5k Divide it by three, and on average, the trio has: 95.5K (ATM) And they wanna debut another group? Oh well...

[@Ash_ash_as]

Maybe you should use a calculator next time...

[@DearestSheepMC]

@Ash_ash_as Oh ty, skipped the adding one part meaning the subs increase to 95.5K on average

[@ainzer2903]

Are these new talents are part of Niji's nepo hire? Hm....

[@SenkoisWatchingYoutube]

I can't believe there's already a faqing yab with Ryoma before they've even debuted lmaoooooo

[@kookio4284]

This is the most shocking info I've gotten today. Its wild that anyone Foreign to Japan would even remotely want to be a part of Nijisanji after everything.

[@magosexploratoradeon6409]

Seeing this feels... Sad, it's like... It's like seeing a limping puppy but you can't do anything about it that won't hurt the puppy more than what they're currently experiencing. It's just sad seeing what the state would be a couple of months from now. I hope I'm wrong, I really do.

[@Swagpion]

0:49 look, an acurate depiction of Niji

[@Thomas_K7799]

I hope they are well-prepared 🙏

[@danielwolf2257]

I genuinely wanna check them out. And will do so. I hope they fair way better in the end.

[@richarduhrincat9351]

I dont understand why people are upset. I mean at this point, for almost every big Niji thing we get a Goombus stream. I say Niji needss to ACCELARATE even more....like 2 - 3 new waves / concerts a week or so, so I can get my goobium fix.

[@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty]

Honestly, I just hope that they are able to do well. I'm not gonna watch them because I don't want to do watch Niji stuff but I'm happy for them.

[@vkarvanzer4243]

Oh wow. They actually did found people who still willing

[@Tomeroche]

Honestly surprised people applied, not for the bad rep but after the contract leaks.

[@Joe-xq3zu]

probably signed before everything caught fire and the truth started coming out

[@JDJeanMichel]

There is evidence out there that almost-NijiEN talents pulled out previously. So either NijiEN decided to enforce their contract and force these 3 to debut, or these 3 decided to stay in despite having the ability to pull out. Either way, this new generation is going to get hate. Either NijiEN is still as toxic as it used to be, or these new talents are despicable, or both. Hard, HARD pass.

[@charsage1036]

Im worried for the 3 but at same time at this point they know what going on and chooses to stay so if the black company stabs them in back i can't feel as bad as doki and sayu for them still hope the best for the three though a dumb Decisions doesn't make bad person ya know.

[@SenseiRaisen]

i can see the jokes written already with that name ... DEEZ NAUTHS!!

[@christophsiebert1213]

4:35 Omg who cares if it was edited stock art? I'm the last person to defend Niji after everything that went down since mid last year, but holy hell, this is just normal practice. They use a base and edit it. This isn't even major promotional material, this was just a little teaser in the form of "The gates are opening". It's really not that deep. Focus on the actual shit that's going on with this company.

[@SorenNido]

Regarding being able to leave before debuting. There's potential evidence for a 4th member of that generation having left before debut since during the height of the Selen drama, an indie vtuber by the name of GrimmiVT un-graduated and returned to her indie career. When she returned she was very suggestive about the then-currently developing situation with Nijisanji too

[@Izbiski_]

3:09 Khyo, you're thinking like a rational person and not someone that will try to cover up severe bullying to the point of attempted self deletion twice. They would keep people in even if they haven't debuted using the big old money requirement to quit, and the relinquishing of even your own stuff if you do. They're using this generation as a stopgap method of generating income, a spike to make their earnings report for this quarter to not look so dismal. I hope these people find a way to get out of the toxicity before it gets too late, but I'm not watching them as a message that using people as bandaids doesn't work.

[@deep_amok]

2:51 - So would I. So would any sane person, but this is Nijisanji we're talking about. We simply can't trust them.

[@JDJeanMichel]

I almost did a spit take when he said that. Has he forgotten how many self-destructive things Niji did, only in the name of spite?!

[@imsometaeventhisacronym2545]

Who the hell could possibly avoid seeing everything that happened, or have seen it all and still thought they should apply? Jeez Louise, I wish ‘em the best I guess.

[@ThePlagueDoctor_or_SCP049]

Read the title sighed and just said “aaah shit here we go again”

[@tonygalvan2279]

giving them a year before one is bullied, one graduates and one gets fired because he or she DARED to oposed to something elira, enna, finana or vox said followed by another dead apology for tazumi

[@napalmx5300]

Fingers crossed for their futures, hate watching is a thing that should absolutely not be done as it only ever gives Niji an excuse they don't need or deserve to have. Hopefully things go alright for these new talents, don't they still have another group backlogged?

[@MoonShineNight78]

what people don't know, is that some of these talents just enter a company and start being corpo to make clout and when they feel like they got the people they want, they would graduate and return to indie/start over without any of the corpo's rules, with own management and with all the money getting to them directly I feel like this is not as bad as it sounds, because we all search for success, and with a company Niji is... I would do that too

[@viviantran5961]

Just want to point out that using stock art isn't weird at all. Assuming it's not AI generated, drawn by an artist, and the correct license was bought, they can use it.

[@CaeruKameFrog]

My first guess for the talents are that they definitely got hired 8 months to a year ago and can’t leave that far into the contract since drama happened 4-5 months ago, nijisanji could make them compensate money for backing out so late (since technically Niji is spending some money on them and there could be a clause in the contract that says “if contract is broken after X date, you will have to pay for the amount we spent on you” which could be up to a couple hundred to thousands. Also, Most people saw Niji as a trustworthy source so probably not have had a lawyer look at it or at the very least I wouldn’t have because I also trusted that they wouldn’t fuck me over. The second idea is that they are nijisisters that don’t care or were nepo-hires that see nijisanji as a saint that does nothing wrong ever. The last idea is that they are just seeing how it goes and if they really hate it, won’t renew the contract. Nijisanji is definitely taking the Miniladd route. Do I think they are trying to be better? No not proactively. they are most likely waiting for the storm to blow over by pretending nothing happened and even deleting Reddit post and what not.

[@Minsc1989]

As far as we know, niji doesn't spend anything on the debuts of the talents. So I kinda feel like your first point is the most kinda mute. Even more so since we know that their "contract" wouldn't hold up in a western court of law and assuming that the new talents don't live in Japan (yet).

[@theglobalwarming6081]

But like... stock art is meant to be used like that?... sometimes, no editing is even done I wouldnt blame the company for using stock art, companies do it all the time. But yes, I do hope the new wave wont get fked over by KuroSanji

[@criticalmeme1096]

Riku: "When this baby hits 88 knots, you're gonna see some serious shit."

[@chrissolace]

I just hope the new talents are able to get a good foothold and establish themselves, since the designs of the maid and the other girl are really nice and unique!

[@Taka_Tin]

Who the fuck came up with those names?

[@Influence417]

I dunno, man. The names look fine to me. And I'm shit at naming things.

[@user-br4qy6cj5g]

Better than I could ever come up with. I mean, I'm bad at naming so Idk if that holds any merit

[@baizhu]

nijisanji has been getting worse and worse with names on the en side lol. “vantacrow bringer” was when i immediately tapped out

[@cornz7126]

@@baizhu Damn that sucks because Vanta has a pretty good sense of humor imo.

[@Influence417]

​@@baizhu Then what are your suggestions, Master Namer?

[@Jammie-uf4vr]

the 2 view streamer in a third world country trying to make it out: "mama, papa, I did it! I got into Nijisanji!"

[@vkarvanzer4243]

I want to congratulate them and send my condolances in the same time

[@foursoup7922]

Tbf if theyre actually from 3rd world country 3 view is enough for them to live comfortably even after niji's cut

[@Bam_Bizzler]

Riku: New boat from the triangular trade just dropped!

[@LMP19870]

To the upcoming livers I wish y'all the best.

[@ZaTrapu]

This wave had to been in the works in advance before the drama started

[@xAlecto]

That's what I'm thinking. Not that I'm sure I know the process, but wouldn't models and rigging take time? So, they might have been in locked in contracts for months, possibly?

[@UnqSoleil_VT]

I think so too. I think they took the Lazulight and Obsidia route where they already had people that they wanted to debut in the next wave and just trained them early. So it’s probably the same with TTT and this new group where they were probably casted at the same time but were going to debut at a later date. It would make sense their debut wasn’t earlier especially since the situation with Doki happened and the constant drama Niji is getting into. Also can’t forget the fact that they lost a whole bunch of sponsors as well.

[@indumatipngtuber2790]

I hope they'll be okay.

[@monkeydluffy5054]

At this point I just want to go back to time when things were still normal and besides that I like the maid one in the new wave

[@Loomine.]

2:33 That actually happend with Krisis There was originally going to be 4 of them but one of them left almost immediately and I don’t see enough people talking about that tbh That’s why they didn’t have debut lines like ever other group

[@banny4821]

That guy leaked their models on 4chan right? I remember people calling the leaked models ugly and saying they were ai generated

[@Loomine.]

@@banny4821 Yeah and the model didn’t even look that bad 😭

[@midnashadow8439]

This is the plan…you audition for Nijisanji EN, you get in, you follow the rules for about 1 month and then you start to wreak havoc, breaking rules and being a liability…you get terminated…BOOM! Continue as an Indie with all the old followers from the Niji period and the newer ones who hate Niji and won’t watch but now they will because you’re indie…

[@watercrystals9744]

lmao you don't automatically get viewers as an indie just because you were in kurosanji kyo is the perfect example of this, almost everyone who was "hyped" for him going indie immediately stopped watching him after like a month once his indie debut happened and now he gets about as much viewership as he did before he even joined kurosanji in the first place

[@midnashadow8439]

@@watercrystals9744 I mean…if you take my advice seriously, I seriously worry about your sarcasm detection 🤣

[@vonrich2614]

The only way they can show they are doing better.....sadly is people leaving the company and them being like "my old job was bad but they got better" or "i miss the support i had" things like that. Nothing from niji directly

[@rue660]

it’s funny that on kurosanji reddit people ALREADY found some shitty stuff on the new guy. boy oh boy, if it checks out he’ll definitely be a fit for the company

[@WahidKuncoro]

The blue girl has a hair design that looks like Ollie, Ollie blue version 😮 I love her design!!!

[@KarlPHorse]

This is what I hate about the employer/employee style of Vtuber companies. They are able to hold the talents hostage. I wish them all the absolute best of luck, but man do I fear for them. But it’s their lives. I can’t tell them what to do, nor do I want to. But I hope everything turns out ok for them.

[@ThatchNetherfold]

Hololive also implemented the employer/employee style of a typical company as well, the only difference being quality control and detailed management, as well as a fair treatment to everyone under (the talents get monthly salary, excluding the addition of 50% of their merch sales).

[@KarlPHorse]

@@ThatchNetherfold I have no beef with Hololive. I just personally like the agency style of managment more. Business ownership of Idol personas is just too susceptable to abuse. Hololive is able to run their business that way because there are trustworthy, good people at the top. But one exception doesn't change the fact that Vtubers are better off owning their personas.

[@Tiananmen1989FreeTibetHK]

Lmao. 4chan was already in hand of their PL. THATS FAST AF. Truly schizos.

[@TheOneThatLurks]

More hands on the deck of the sinking yacht.

[@HotMochii]

I feel like if Niji wants to show that they are doing better or changing, they should make their contract public for all to see.

[@KausAustralisss]

Who in the right mind still joining them

[@envy_extinct81]

while i hope it's not the case i can see a the new talent having applied knowing about the backlash and looking to just get a good pay day out of it i hope its not the case but at the same time a lot of the talent that sticks with Niji have been pretty terrible so hears hoping that this is a new era

[@Pandymeez]

Genuinely, good luck to those new talents. It’s going to be r o u g h.

[@misaki5682]

It's because *you* guys make it rough for them. You guys literally slandered the new guy and when presented with proof, you go in hiding.

[@Pandymeez]

@@misaki5682 Idk who tf you think you’re talking to. Don’t come at me with heat for sympathizing with the new talent and I haven’t even done anything.

[@onicore]

i can't help but be reminded of one of Parrot's videos where he reads a post like "the acceleration doesn't stop until we achieve the legendary 0 views debut!" 🤣 These may not be it but maybe we're getting closer 🤣