KIA eNiro 64kWh review | There's one MASSIVE problem though...

[@jonathanwolman1049]

Nice review. Here in the US in WA State, lots of Niro’s on the lot. I’ve had mine 3 days and love it! 239 miles is very conservative by my estimate. Likely higher 200s is accurate. I fit a donut spare in the boot under the floor. VERY comfy seats. All the Niro’s I’ve seen have the heat pump option which greatly reduces use of the battery. The included safety tech on the base version is really great. My favorite is the adaptive cruise control and lane keeping function. It will literally drive itself for periods of time.

[@normannchan]

It is wonderful car... Good price with full options and long range. Korean brand was improved a lot.

[@phildavies1341]

Couple of comments. There are additional charge points in the centre console which passengers in the rear can take advantage of. You can run the car as a giant mobile phone charger in utility mode. Put the rear seat belts back carefully otherwise you will shut the door on them. Two nice dents in the door shut on mine. Dont use the granny charger with an extension lead - ever. Kick back and enjoy the JBL stereo!

[@NobbyOnCars]

Great to have feedback from an owner, thanks for that!

[@CarVsCargroup]

I think having an electric car with SUV sort of body style, where you don't lose driving range to bigger body is the killer feature of Kia e-Niro. Good review.

[@duncanandrews1940]

I have the Niro Hybrid and I have to say that it is the best care I have ever owned. As for the tire/traction problem.......you learn to deal with that very quickly once you drive it.

[@TomOS1971]

great idea with the parcel shelf. my 2009 Subary Legacy Tourer did the same, its really handy and dont know why all manufacturers dont follow

[@johndunne7376]

Hi Nobby, Eco mode is a big help with the wheelspin, makes the car (and you!) less nervous around town...

[@NobbyOnCars]

Cheers John. How are you finding yours?

[@johndunne7376]

@@NobbyOnCars Hi Nobby, I actually have an eSoul. It replaced a Leaf 40 and I'd regard it as a generation on from the Nissan. Performance is fantastic even if Sport mode is only for showing it off! Love the range and the fact that it drops so slowly even on the motorway. The Leaf could be scary on long trips!

[@adnanjusic4890]

@@johndunne7376 true.. ECO is best mode for all kind of slippery conditions. Btw eSoul is imho so nice and good looking at front.. but its awfull at back.

[@GregHighPressure]

the Michelins they come with are terrible, swapping to the Pirelli p7 blue fixes it and increases efficiency. About the same price too.

[@RichardOzanne]

I test drove the E-Niro last year (ditto the Kona EV) and it was a good car for sure. Apart from the torque steer (in both cars) the only real downside was that it's not rated to tow at all. Not even a box trailer. Once they get that sorted I might go back and look again. Good first EV from Kia, though.

[@Pervypriest]

The Kona can tow, 300kg

[@112deeps]

With tow the front wheels may lose grip ? Wonder why no tow in e niro

[@joelf634]

@@112deeps No tow for 2020 e-niro, 2021 can tow 300kg. Which is not very useful either.

[@keving5235]

you can turn that grip/slip feel you were talking about off. Its the transition from the front wheel power to the rear that makes it feel like that. Ok, you cant turn it completely off but you can turn it down to the lowest setting and it feels fine.

[@yonaz3334]

But it's only front wheel drive?

[@keving5235]

@@yonaz3334 Correct, but by turning the setting to its lowest, you dont experience the issues in the video, its a much smoother drive and having the setting low in no way compromises any safety.

[@deasunodonnachadha6408]

Nice review. Eco mode in the us spec one, not the top spec, is more then fine for everyday driving. In fact I find it quite fun and more then enough power. Range is the big surprise. Bloody great! Ya tires do fight for grip! :)

[@Lorakar]

Good video, nice to see quality content from Dublin! (No real need for the dog comment, we’re better than that, aren’t we?)

[@SirHackaL0t.]

100,000 km warranty? I thought it was 100,000 miles which would be 160,000km. Great review and spot on with the problem.

[@agawokwo]

150.000 km or seven years.

[@sasquatch5863]

it is 100k miles in UK,and probably in all countries measuring distance in miles, one catch. battery deterioration over time is not covered by warranty, only failure.

[@Jerodequin]

@@sasquatch5863 In the UK the battery is covered for deterioration for 7 years/100k miles and will be repaired/replaced if it falls below 65% in this time (70% if the car was bought before 1st August 2019). It's all listed in the 7 year warranty terms and exclusions: www.kia.com/uk/innovation/7-year-warranty/terms-and-exclusions/

[@ConfirmedPatriot]

Yeah.....here in the US they are only sold in 12 states.

[@ihusernames]

Hi Nobby, I have a genuine problem with the Kia e-Niro and that's the roof rails. I bought mine after watching your excellent video (and a few others) 3 months ago but had an incident with the roof rails when on holidays with the family. I had standard roof bars fitted correctly and carrying two kayaks when one side just lifted off the roof in moderate wind. It turns out the roof rails have three sections. The middle sections are bolted down but the sections at the front and rear are merely clipped on making them a lot less secure. No joy from my dealer who have tried to blame the roof bars which were not Kia bars. I find the car fine for city driving but a bit lightweight for anything else. It looks like a crossover SUV but its really a city car and a bit lightweight. If I had known about this design flaw I would have got a Skoda Enyaq or VW ID4 instead as we do a lot of kayaking around Ireland and no longer have confidence in the roof rails. I miss my Skoda which was built like a tank, could easily manage the two kayaks and you could drive anywhere!

[@NobbyOnCars]

Seems so odd that they would do that. Find the range decent?

[@sasquatch5863]

UK 2020 model 4 has heat pump and electric adjusted front seats as standard, only option is colour.(same for initial/2019 model you're testing)

[@NobbyOnCars]

Sasquatch Ireland. Not standard.

[@jackfishcampbell6745]

Good review with one problem . One minute you ca hardly here him. Then it's superloud .

[@alexanimalfacts]

Getting a 4+ in Feb 2021, can't wait!

[@NobbyOnCars]

That wait is always a tough one

[@Alex-qv5py]

Just had had a phonecall. arrives at the dealership next Tuesday. So excited.

[@huss1205]

I am between the Kia e-Niro and Hyundai kona electric 64KWh, the problem is that I like how Kona looks but the roominess of e-Niro is by far superior, but in terms of economy, e-Niro can not beat Kona electric, Kona electric is by far superior, if it was not for that awful space in the backseat, I would have bought Kona electric but I don't want to buy e-Niro and regret it, in Sweden a fully loaded e-Niro costs about $53-54K, that's a lot of money for a small compact SUV...

[@NobbyOnCars]

what about Kia eSoul? Same car as the Kona.

[@huss1205]

@@NobbyOnCars it is ugly and not different than the tight Kona...

[@DBartel2000]

Here in Denmark the waranty for Hyundai is 5 years and the Kia is 7 years.... Also worth to consider...

[@CMWobby1]

Isn’t the Warranty 100,00 miles or 7 year not 100,00 kilometres. I think you’ll find a charge point inside the arm rest, not the best though. I notice in some countries they have a 220 volt plug at the back of the front arm rest, now that’s useful. In the U.K. with the new 4+ model we get air cooled seats. I’ve got them in my Kona and would prefer air cool than heated, great on hot sunny days with these leather seats. We also get a sunroof and a few other bits and bobs.

[@NobbyOnCars]

Kia covers the components of the EV and Hybrid vehicles for 84 months/150,000 kilometers, from the date of first registration.

[@wobby1516]

@@NobbyOnCars Just traded my Kona for the Nero 4+. Should arrive 13 December. Whilst we loved the Kona Electric I think the Nero has the edge. Space and 11kw charger ---- although there’s some safety problem with that and the 3 phase myenergi charge point !!!! I believe myenergi is in discussions with Kia in Holland about an Urgent safety fix. --- We also get a sun roof, bigger centre screen, and very useful seat memory as well as a number of extra safety features over the new Kia Nero model 3. Mary and I used to live in Sligo on the edge of louch Gill near Parker’s Castle I for my sin are English Mary is from Mayo. We love Ireland and return as often as possible, sadly with this virus we’re all stuck.

[@michaelgreen5515]

Nobby would you buy a 2020/21 with low mileage now as they around £18k now with low mileage? I tested the Mg4 trophy after your review and loved it. The MG salesman had the car has 11k miles on sale for £19k so a good deal. The Xpower the insurance category 50+ up north as its crazy powerful.

[@NobbyOnCars]

Buy whichever car you love. You’ll have to live with your decision, not me 😊

[@Mmac71]

Does the new 2020 model "4" here in Ireland come with the heat pump ?? Enjoyed the video btw.

[@NobbyOnCars]

I checked with Kia Ireland and the answer was no.

[@Mmac71]

@@NobbyOnCars cheers Nobby. Keep up the good work.

[@ckyeo9797]

2:10 wow, that’s really cool! Haha, some other video I saw didn’t even know this feature 👍 they Juz dump it behind

[@johndoyle4723]

Thanks for the review, I have one on order for 4 months now. Guess the Virus will slow down deliveries, but also many on the waiting list will drop out due to unceartainity about their financial situation. I will wait for mine.

[@NobbyOnCars]

Good point, those that don’t want to commit now may help free up cars for others with more financial certainty.

[@davehill915]

Hi guys, mine has been on order since March last year, I’m told it’s coming May 18th, but that was before the lockdown, who knows when it’ll be now🤣

[@agawokwo]

@@davehill915 Jeg ordered mine in April 19 and Kia told me last week that there are no changes in delivery time in July 20. I can recommend you to read the owner manual while waiting. There are plenty of useful info in its 551 pages. You can find it in PDF for free.

[@MyPompidu]

@@davehill915 Hi mine too ordered last May {2019} supposed be ready in December, than it has. been told to us March or May and now, just rather not asking

[@paulcox4369]

Hi Nobby, l have tested all of the Korean electric trio, have you tried the Kona? I found it almost undrivable in wet conditions, it span it's wheels at every opportunity, in the Niro & Soul this seems to have been tempered a little, except in sport mode, eco mode helps a lot especially on wet roads. Trouble is when you put a hard wearing relatively narrow eco tyre on a 200bhp vehicle with instant torque, one has to be very careful with right foot to avoid wheel spin!

[@NobbyOnCars]

Haven't driven the Kona, the eSoul is basically the same car underneath though. I found the eSoul had more grip than the eNiro anyway.

[@paulcox4369]

@@NobbyOnCars l agree, on paper l was all set to order the Kona, after driving them it's the Soul l have ordered.

[@rossyhead69]

Kona is much smaller, that’s the main difference. I think the Kona looks better outside but the Kia is for me. Just wish it wasn’t such a wait for mine!

[@Jonsk111]

Undriveable? If so the problem is between the steering wheel and seat

[@maesc2001]

And what’s the problem?

[@NobbyOnCars]

Can’t get them!

[@hamiltonjohn682]

Any info on how to change a flat tyre on it or is it standard ?

[@3204clivesinclair]

It’s like most manufacturers selling EV’s. Go into any garage, configure one, then ask for the delivery time...... unacceptable. 6, 9, 18 months - a total guess AND worryingly possible delays.

[@maxsec2]

heat pump is extra in .ie - wow, all in for the UK Spec..

[@NobbyOnCars]

I know, fairly weird.

[@mikeuk4130]

The Kona Electric Premium is good value if you don't need the extra space but, oh, the interior! Hard, grey plastic everywhere, plus a horrible centre console. The spec is good, and it's available, but I couldn't live with it. The E-Niro will hold it's value and it's like a sports limo. Why not buy an ex-demo First Edition now and change to a new '4' in 2 years?

[@bingchungpang8984]

Why review the old version of E-Niro ?

[@NobbyOnCars]

That's the car Kia had on fleet at the time!

[@stanfoyle8453]

New one has cooled seats and power seats

[@matthiasm.4414]

It looks like the drive train is not well designed if the wheels spin all the time. A limited slip differential could help but is not available for this car as far as I know. Power without control...

[@NobbyOnCars]

LSD would be class but it would push up the cost no doubt.

[@podge5555]

Baile Atha Kia .... Brilliant!😂🤣🤣

[@Simonmc78]

starting at 40k for new 2020 trim in most dealerships and thats with the 10k grant reductions included. That pricing you provided is well off. €39,495 on Kias own website(Price includes VRT rebate and SEAI grant)

[@NobbyOnCars]

That’s what it cost when it was filmed.

[@Simonmc78]

@@NobbyOnCars I bought mine in march for 39k. Mad to see the price they're selling at now all things considered.

[@sipan4269]

nice

[@neilbissett1240]

Needs to be four wheel drive has to much torque I am guessing

[@mg1079]

Way to expensive . It has less moving parts and 1 Kwh of battery cost 140 us dollars today., So where the price come from?

[@Medea007]

They are using the money for their plan to invade us.

[@peterjorgensen3]

Low volume, new technology.

[@martinhamblett3444]

Do you still suffer the grip loss under acceleration using the eco mode?

[@NobbyOnCars]

Martin Hamblett not as much but I’d say it’s still possible in the right conditions.

[@martinhamblett3444]

Nobby On Cars Thanks. Driving my 2016 LEAF I rarely come out of Eco mode as it’s much easier to drive smoothly with its reduced throttle response.

[@NobbyOnCars]

@@martinhamblett3444 Yeah eco mode really works in the Leaf I find, there's still plenty of power etc

[@rossyhead69]

Is that the ‘19 plate or a “4”? Thanks

[@NobbyOnCars]

It's a 2019 model so not the latest updated one. Our plates are a bit different here.

[@gordonross8524]

What are the changes in the ‘20 model?

[@farman2020]

Suddenly stopped and some one hitting you behind

[@BERNIEO4]

Take off the cheep tires BUY GOOD TIRED 😆 !

[@NobbyOnCars]

They're Michelin!

[@bajstolle89]

LOL to get 200hk you would have to spend double ? .. ok dude =)

[@icom7800donegal]

150,000 km warranty

[@podge5555]

Yes, but it’s not transferable! 🤨

[@icom7800donegal]

@@podge5555 You said 7 years/100,000 km warranty. Not sure what you mean by non transferable, if you trade in the car after 2 years with 50,000 km on it, the new owner that buys it would have 5 years/100,000km warranty remaining (whichever comes first), or am I missing something ?

[@podge5555]

martin gillespie : from what I’ve heard only the first owner gets the warranty, so once the car is traded in the warranty is gone regardless of how much warranty is left. I could be wrong but maybe someone from Kia will enlighten us 😁

[@kia-ireland]

Hi @@podge5555​, the Kia 7-Year Warranty is fully transferable between owners up to 7-Years or 150,000km mileage. This includes a full 7-year battery warranty and extends to vehicles that have been imported from the UK.

[@podge5555]

Kia Motors Ireland : ok thanks for clarifying this for me. It was actually a Kia owner that said it wasn’t transferable, so they must have been misinformed. 👍🏻

[@rolandholland2398]

Maybe change the title????

[@agawokwo]

Baile Athá Kia 😅

[@o00scorpion00o]

The Leaf, E-Soul, E-Niro, Kona, wheel spin is ridiculous on wet roads and in Ireland that's a pain in the ass. I found it very frustrating. The 200 HP isn't the issue the real issues is lack of Limited Slip Dif, in other words, this is a real issue and a safety issue in my opinion because I found this a real concern trying to pull out onto a main road in the wet safely, in the i3 I don't have to worry about this because there is much more grip, On my extended test drives I found myself having to allow extra time to pull out on to main roads and at roundabouts and this is unacceptable in a modern car and the 0-100 times are greatly reduced especially on wet roads it feels more like 12 seconds or more if the wheels start spinning. There are other FWD cars with much more power that don't have this issue. The Nissan Leaf was one example of lack of LSD when I took it up a hill in the wet, full throttle and both wheels spun so voilently the traction didn't even come on because both wheels were spinning so voilently at the same speed so because of there being no difference in wheel speed the traction control system though nothing of it because it works on the basis that if one wheel is spinning faster than the other there must be a lack of grip but if both spinning at the same speed the tcs system can't function, this is downright dangerous. VW Id.3 and BMW i3 makes a huge difference in the wet and the wheel spin is one reason I will avoid a FWD EV Manufacturers until the car manufacturers include a LSD at least or go RWD. If you already own one of these FWD electrics then buy decent wet tyres, go for A rated wet tyres and it should help.

[@NobbyOnCars]

Found the eNiro slippy at times but not overly so. RWD brings in a different set of potential issues but yes overall I think I’d prefer.

[@o00scorpion00o]

@@NobbyOnCars The Kona, E-Soul that I drove were ridiculous in the wet, it shouldn't be this bad and the engineers should have controlled the power better. The Leaf was bad too even with only 150 Hp which was the 40 Kwh. RWD is definitely a lot better, yes it can have it's issues with very high power if you hit the throttle hard but usually a car with decent stability control will tame a lively rear end a lot easier than an EV with no LSD because while traction control is good to have, when all wheels spin at the same speed stability control is useless, it's a big oversight if you ask me, the Leaf is the same. The BMW i3 with continental Eco contact 6 tyres in the wet is 100 times better than any of the front wheel electrics particularly the higher powered ones.

[@johnevans6399]

There aren't 11 eNiro's in the whole world!!

[@B3RB4]

😂😂 sensitive word in that part of the world.

[@blarkdexture8899]

Id3 is best

[@mad4tar77]

In what world 😂

[@eamonnmcdermott1939]

Far too expensive. No thanks! I'm holding out for hydrogen power (at a reasonable price) and until then I will drive a car with an ICE!!

[@andygardner6016]

Too expensive and yet a hydrogen car is double the price and 16 time more expensive per mile to run......

[@eamonnmcdermott1939]

Andy Gardner why did I say at a reasonable price??????

[@andygardner6016]

@@eamonnmcdermott1939 Which part of hydrogen cars are double the cost of a BEV and 16 times more expensive to run screams reasonably priced to you. Do you not think that BEV's are going to come down in price or are you happy to just allow HFCV to reduce in price......

[@eamonnmcdermott1939]

Andy Gardner for the second time I said that I would wait for when hydrogen cars and it’s fuel are reasonably priced i.e. when they become similarly priced to cars with an ICE. If a BEV can be charged in 5 minutes and give a range of at least 800kms I will consider one, that’s a long way off. Hydrogen vehicles will be more practical WHEN THEY COME DOWN IN PRICE AND THEIR RANGE INCREASES. Until then I will be driving with an ICE.

[@andygardner6016]

@@eamonnmcdermott1939 Are you incapable of reading what its written? Hydrogen will never be cheap, the cars will never be cheap, the infrastructure will never be cheap.....A hydrogen car uses 3 times more electricity per mile than a BEV.... that translates to 3 times the cost if you ignore the massively more expensive infrastructure that hydrogen needs..... You don't need to recharge a BEV in 5 mins, you need one that will let you drive for 3-4 hours and then recharge in the time it takes to P and get a coffee etc. Tesla 3 LR already does this, the tech is here......where is the hydrogen tech?